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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: AllSussedOut on May 31, 2011, 05:41:21 PM

Title: From Big Star to...
Post by: AllSussedOut on May 31, 2011, 05:41:21 PM
I love the Big Star bit.  Love it.

But I was wondering who would take Big Star's place, were Tom to hit the big time that he so richly deserves.  Who is that band-- the one that after years of touring and toiling in relative obscurity, with only critical acclaim and respect on it's side, somehow achieved legitimate financial success?

Um... Pulp?

*ducks for cover*
Title: Re: From Big Star to...
Post by: DS1077 on May 31, 2011, 07:13:21 PM
Fountains of Wayne.
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Post by: break on May 31, 2011, 07:46:03 PM
Spoon and Wilco come to mind. 
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Post by: dave from knoxville on May 31, 2011, 08:06:21 PM
Greenberry Woods?
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 31, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
My Morning Jacket.
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Post by: amiright?? on June 01, 2011, 09:37:37 AM
George Harrison?
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Post by: davidgoeschatting on June 01, 2011, 10:33:05 AM
Sugar Ray's first album might as well have never come out!
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Post by: Flick on June 01, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
The Replacements or Soul Asylum. In the case of The Replacements, Tom's output would lack the magic of the material that never achieved mainstream success and it would also have that awful 80's production sound. In the case of Soul Asylum, Tom would quickly fade back into obscurity after his moment in the sun. I second Wilco as a band of this description, but that would mean that Tom would eventually lose all of his collaborators through personality and artistic conflicts, except the bass player (which in this metaphor would be AP Mike?).

In any case, none of these stories have happy endings, unfortunately.
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Post by: amazingjourney on June 07, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
I wonder what stage in the Big Star progression Tom thinks the show is in.

What would the Best Show sound like when it's firmly in the Third era? Are we already there? Don't think I want to hear the talk radio equivalent of "Holocaust."

I would enjoy hearing the Best Show when it hits Feudalist Tarts territory though.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on June 08, 2011, 05:48:53 AM
I like to dream that we are in the Box Tops stage of the Big Star progression.
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Post by: CSW on June 08, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
I love the Big Star bit.  Love it.

But I was wondering who would take Big Star's place, were Tom to hit the big time that he so richly deserves.  Who is that band-- the one that after years of touring and toiling in relative obscurity, with only critical acclaim and respect on it's side, somehow achieved legitimate financial success?

Um... Pulp?

*ducks for cover*

Pulp we're always pretty popular in the UK so I'm not sure that really applies to their whole career, maybe just the US part of it?

Jack White/The White Stripes, they had a fair few years pre-success, so could be a good suggestion. But he does have a reputation for being a giant douche so maybe not so much
Title: Re: From Big Star to...
Post by: AllSussedOut on June 08, 2011, 08:52:52 AM
Re: Pulp... I studied in the U.K. in 1994, and the impression I gotwas that they'd been around for about 10-15 years doing a whole lot of nothing before "His 'N Hers" hit.
Title: Re: From Big Star to...
Post by: CSW on June 08, 2011, 10:21:52 AM
Re: Pulp... I studied in the U.K. in 1994, and the impression I gotwas that they'd been around for about 10-15 years doing a whole lot of nothing before "His 'N Hers" hit.

True enough but they had a fair few different line-up and a few different sounds for a lot of that time and not much in the way of critical adoration.

In fairness, that I can;t think of a better comparison, so maybe you were on the money with that.

Sidebar: Where did you study and have you been back to the UK much since then? Much of it is a lot nicer than back then....
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on June 08, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
Guided By Voices? Or were they too obscure before they became well known for the analogy to work? It's not like Tom is doing this in his basement, Rupert Pupkin style.
Title: Re: From Big Star to...
Post by: Flick on June 08, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
I wonder what stage in the Big Star progression Tom thinks the show is in.

What would the Best Show sound like when it's firmly in the Third era? Are we already there? Don't think I want to hear the talk radio equivalent of "Holocaust."

I would enjoy hearing the Best Show when it hits Feudalist Tarts territory though.

I think we're in the Radio City ear, right now. Tom's bad mood shows/hiatus shows were the equivalent of Chris Bell's destroying master tapes and quitting the band. We're now in the stretch where the Phoenix rises from the ashes to the opening chords of 'O My Soul.'
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Post by: buffcoat on June 09, 2011, 10:14:01 AM
We're now in the stretch where the Phoenix rises from the ashes to the opening chords of 'O My Soul.'


For my money, this is their best song by a mile.
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Post by: Flick on June 09, 2011, 12:55:09 PM
We're now in the stretch where the Phoenix rises from the ashes to the opening chords of 'O My Soul.'


For my money, this is their best song by a mile.

If I had to pick a favorite, it would be "What's Going Ahn?." There really isn't anything on those three records that isn't worthy of being a favorite, though.
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Post by: jakewho on June 09, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
I wonder what stage in the Big Star progression Tom thinks the show is in.

What would the Best Show sound like when it's firmly in the Third era? Are we already there? Don't think I want to hear the talk radio equivalent of "Holocaust."

I would enjoy hearing the Best Show when it hits Feudalist Tarts territory though.

The Four Loko episode was clearly the beginning of the Third era.
Title: Re: From Big Star to...
Post by: AllSussedOut on June 09, 2011, 08:33:18 PM
Re: Pulp... I studied in the U.K. in 1994, and the impression I gotwas that they'd been around for about 10-15 years doing a whole lot of nothing before "His 'N Hers" hit.

True enough but they had a fair few different line-up and a few different sounds for a lot of that time and not much in the way of critical adoration.

In fairness, that I can;t think of a better comparison, so maybe you were on the money with that.

Sidebar: Where did you study and have you been back to the UK much since then? Much of it is a lot nicer than back then....

Sussex, and not a single time... which is incredibly unfortunate, and something I'm trying to remedy as we speak.  I miss Brighton!
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Post by: Flick on June 10, 2011, 11:09:30 AM

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The Four Loko episode was clearly the beginning of the Third era.
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Good call.
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Post by: Anthony from Ireland on June 20, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
(http://www.groov.ie/largemound/bestStar.jpg)

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by: amiright?? on June 20, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Amazing! Love it!
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 20, 2011, 02:21:14 PM
Beautiful!
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Post by: masterofsparks on June 20, 2011, 03:04:28 PM
We're now in the stretch where the Phoenix rises from the ashes to the opening chords of 'O My Soul.'


For my money, this is their best song by a mile.

If I had to pick a favorite, it would be "What's Going Ahn?." There really isn't anything on those three records that isn't worthy of being a favorite, though.

India Song?