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Title: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 13, 2011, 01:43:16 AM
My Thoughts on Vinyl Cafe:

Anyone here listen to Vinyl Cafe? This is the most Canadian thing I have ever heard. This ultra Canadian guy hosts this show where he reads funny stories about a family that owns a record store. The show is done live most of the time from some very obscure Canadian towns most of which I've never heard of but surprisingly live near some. He also gets Canadian talent on. Sometimes he just does editorial type monologues. This makes me homesick even though I live in Canada. Its a CBC thing.


Anyone ever gone to a live broadcast? Anyone read any of the books?
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: crumbum on June 13, 2011, 08:07:51 AM
I don't begrudge anyone enjoying this program, which among other things is a pretty good showcase for a certain folkie strain of Canadian indie music and is besides that dearly beloved by many people close to me, but I have to say I fucking hate Stuart McLean's voice with its phony homespun lilt. The way he pauses in the middle of a sentence and then... SHOUTS the next word drives me nuts. When I hear him I literally run for the radio to turn it off.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 13, 2011, 12:06:49 PM
I don't begrudge anyone enjoying this program, which among other things is a pretty good showcase for a certain folkie strain of Canadian indie music and is besides that dearly beloved by many people close to me, but I have to say I fucking hate Stuart McLean's voice with its phony homespun lilt. The way he pauses in the middle of a sentence and then... SHOUTS the next word drives me nuts. When I hear him I literally run for the radio to turn it off.

His tone is quite obnoxious
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Post by: amiright?? on June 13, 2011, 12:26:44 PM
I have been to a live broadcast. It was a Christmas one. I enjoyed it. So sue me.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 13, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
I have been to a live broadcast. It was a Christmas one. I enjoyed it. So sue me.

I think the issue here is the fact that Stewart Maclean sounds so amazed by everything he is saying. He says everything with a sense of wonderment and amazement. "Morley picked up the kids from school, so Dave put away the model car." as though he is revealing a universal truth hidden for a long time.
Anyway his tone aside I absolutely love the Canadian-ness of the whole thing.
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Post by: Bryan on June 13, 2011, 05:40:32 PM
I fucking hate Stuart McLean's voice with its phony homespun lilt. The way he pauses in the middle of a sentence and then... SHOUTS the next word drives me nuts. When I hear him I literally run for the radio to turn it off.
Yes! And isn't this thing a wholesale ripoff of the Prairie Home Companion?

Basically, this show is the essence of what I hate about CBC. The folksiness! It kills me!
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 13, 2011, 05:53:44 PM
I fucking hate Stuart McLean's voice with its phony homespun lilt. The way he pauses in the middle of a sentence and then... SHOUTS the next word drives me nuts. When I hear him I literally run for the radio to turn it off.
Yes! And isn't this thing a wholesale ripoff of the Prairie Home Companion?

Basically, this show is the essence of what I hate about CBC. The folksiness! It kills me!

Definitely Not the Opera a ripoff of this american life??
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Bryan on June 13, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
Definitely Not the Opera a ripoff of this american life??
Those two shows don't seem particularly similar to me.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: amiright?? on June 13, 2011, 08:28:25 PM
DNTO has definitely started to rely on first-person anecdotes more heavily since the rise of This American Life's podcast.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Sarah on June 13, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
My eldest sister listens to the CBC all the livelong day, every day, and I'm pretty sure she loves Vinyl Café.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: hardweek on June 13, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
He's our Garrison Keillor.

That said, in small doses,  I quite enjoy some of the stories. Galway is a good one.

I also like that he broke Seth to a larger audience. I've been a long time fan since the Palookaville days.

But, yeah that pump fake mid-sentence stutter stop bugs me after awhile, enough to unsubscribe to the podcast.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 13, 2011, 10:57:13 PM
I have flipped on many of my podcasts recently; I am heavily-FOTcentric at the moment, with an odd fascination with brainy theological discussion. Here's the current roster.

Am I Right
Best Show
Best Show Gems
Bitslap w/KBC
The Bugle
Comedy and Everything Else
Comedy Bang Bang
Coverville
Crazy Liberals and Conservatives
Doug Loves Movies
Dusty Show
Film Vault
Fredericks Mind Thing
Hold Your Applause
How Was Your Week
Judge John Hodgman
Left Right and Center
The Treatment
The Math Factor
Night People
On the Media
All Songs Considered
All Songs Considered Concerts
Pod F Tompkast
The Sound of Young America
Professor Blastoff
Seven Second Delay
Sklarbro Country
The Smartest Man in the World
Start the Week
Superego
Tony Campolo
Too Much Information
Unbelievable?
Radiolab
WTF

This is almost manageable. There are 3 or 4 on the hanging-on-for-dear-life class, and I feel like I should pick up one or two edgier music blogs, just so I can stay musically ahead of my students (which isn't hard when most of them love Journey and Bob Seger, but still). I am currently about 420 podcasts behind (then I can start to work on the 700 CDs I haven't heard yet.)

Somebody call for help.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: amiright?? on June 13, 2011, 11:25:51 PM
My eldest sister listens to the CBC all the livelong day, every day, and I'm pretty sure she loves Vinyl Café.

Does she like Jian Ghomeshi?

As for Stuart's weird speech patterns, watch a YouTube video of him to see what causes it...
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Sarah on June 13, 2011, 11:50:35 PM
I believe she does.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: hardweek on June 14, 2011, 12:56:56 AM
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Does she like Jian Ghomeshi?

As for Stuart's weird speech patterns, watch a YouTube video of him to see what causes it...

I'm not following: are his speech patterns something more than an affected cadence?

As for Jian, great radio host, but...on a Canada Day many, many years ago, I was working at a record store, and he came in with his band Moxy Fruvous for an in-store performance. After the show, we were chatting and he asked if I was coming to the show they were playing later that night. I didn't have the heart to say that I hated his band, but luckily I had an out: Huevos Rancheros were also playing that night at a different venue.

He scoffed at me, made a  smarmy "hmff" sound, and said, "that band that sounds like Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet?"

To which I responded, "better than that band that sounds like the Barenaked Ladies."

On another Can-Con tip: is the New Pornographers Hyundai Accent commercial running stateside?
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 14, 2011, 01:17:29 AM
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Does she like Jian Ghomeshi?

As for Stuart's weird speech patterns, watch a YouTube video of him to see what causes it...

I'm not following: are his speech patterns something more than an affected cadence?

As for Jian, great radio host, but...on a Canada Day many, many years ago, I was working at a record store, and he came in with his band Moxy Fruvous for an in-store performance. After the show, we were chatting and he asked if I was coming to the show they were playing later that night. I didn't have the heart to say that I hated his band, but luckily I had an out: Huevos Rancheros were also playing that night at a different venue.

He scoffed at me, made a  smarmy "hmff" sound, and said, "that band that sounds like Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet?"

To which I responded, "better than that band that sounds like the Barenaked Ladies."

On another Can-Con tip: is the New Pornographers Hyundai Accent commercial running stateside?

Well he got put in his place here
Billy Bob Thornton 'Blow Up' on Q TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw&feature=related#ws)
Billy bob was acting a tad difficult but still its fun to see
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: hardweek on June 14, 2011, 01:27:51 AM
I' be lying if I said I didn't enjoy that on some level.

Meant to add to my previous post: Dave, your podcast list is dizzying! Honestly, I can't keep up with more than a 1/2 dozen subscriptions at a time before it starts feeling like work!
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Sarah on June 14, 2011, 12:23:50 PM
But Dave, you see, has the advantage of being a compulsive nutbird.  (I can say that because I'm one, too.)
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: buffcoat on June 14, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
a compulsive nutbird


This is a new term for me.  What means it?
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: emma on June 14, 2011, 02:51:27 PM
The Vinyl Cafe is the second most Canadian thing you've ever heard after you've heard this thing: http://www.cbc.ca/thedebaters/ (http://www.cbc.ca/thedebaters/). "The show where arguments are won with funny and with fact" and hot-button issues like "are weddings a waste of money?" and "social networks: more harm than good?" are finally given the national attention they deserve.

The completely irrational but still really strong hatred I feel for Stuart McLean is rivaled only by how inexplicably angry that fucking Denise lady on Randy Bachman's Vinyl Tap makes me feel when she reads from their "mailbag." (Also, I take everything I've said back, Randy Bachman's Vinyl Tap will be, if you can bring yourself to listen to it, the most Canadian thing you've ever heard.)

I still listen to all of this stuff, though! I grew up listening to Radio One and only Radio One and even now I can't stop. I could recite that stupid Dave and Morley Christmas story word for word if I had to. Denise notwithstanding, I actually even kind of like the Tap, except I think that might just be stockholm syndrome. I wish I knew how to quit you, CBC.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: MontaukProjekt/PE on June 14, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
The Vinyl Cafe is the second most Canadian thing you've ever heard after you've heard this thing: http://www.cbc.ca/thedebaters/ (http://www.cbc.ca/thedebaters/). "The show where arguments are won with funny and with fact" and hot-button issues like "are weddings a waste of money?" and "social networks: more harm than good?" are finally given the national attention they deserve.

The completely irrational but still really strong hatred I feel for Stuart McLean is rivaled only by how inexplicably angry that fucking Denise lady on Randy Bachman's Vinyl Tap makes me feel when she reads from their "mailbag." (Also, I take everything I've said back, Randy Bachman's Vinyl Tap will be, if you can bring yourself to listen to it, the most Canadian thing you've ever heard.)

I still listen to all of this stuff, though! I grew up listening to Radio One and only Radio One and even now I can't stop. I could recite that stupid Dave and Morley Christmas story word for word if I had to. Denise notwithstanding, I actually even kind of like the Tap, except I think that might just be stockholm syndrome. I wish I knew how to quit you, CBC.

Is Vinyl Tap the thing where he explains the story behind every Guess Who song and plays it? As if anyone cares
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Sarah on June 14, 2011, 04:10:28 PM
a compulsive nutbird


This is a new term for me.  What means it?

Exactly what you'd think.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: amiright?? on June 14, 2011, 04:16:40 PM
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Does she like Jian Ghomeshi?

As for Stuart's weird speech patterns, watch a YouTube video of him to see what causes it...

I'm not following: are his speech patterns something more than an affected cadence?


It's hard to explain - and I haven't had a chance to dig up a video - but there is a real physicality to what he does in person, he's almost dancing in place, looking like he's looking for the nearest washroom, and I think it's all of a piece, the cadence and the dancing.

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Thing that Emma said about Denise McCann


On my recent trip to NY, there was a record store by the Comedy Cellar that had half-dozens of her old singles, 3 for a dollar, Emma.  I bet if you called, they'd put them aside for you!
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Bryan on June 15, 2011, 06:45:38 AM
Is Vinyl Tap the thing where he explains the story behind every Guess Who song and plays it? As if anyone cares
It's about rock history. I kind of like the show - he's got lots of good first person anecdotes about almost everyone. It's definitely corny, but I enjoy it when I stumble onto it.

Though now that I think about it, it's possible that I've only ever heard one episode: the Motown one.
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Post by: mostlymeat on June 15, 2011, 12:00:02 PM
Is Vinyl Tap the thing where he explains the story behind every Guess Who song and plays it? As if anyone cares
I care! Randy Bachman is like your rock and roll dad! It's such a goofy show, he plays the hits then talks and has his guitar on and plays little things on it. He's got stories for miles and wrote so many big dumb hits. I love the guy.

Also The Guess Who are the Canadian Beatles.

-AG
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Post by: amiright?? on June 15, 2011, 01:39:17 PM
I wish he would share some of these stories for miles.

He basically says "Oh, I know this guy, from the time I/BTO/The Guess Who opened for him. Really talented. Really nice, and he seemed to like me."

The end.

Bring back Danny Finkleman!

Or at least play something from Brave Belt.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 15, 2011, 03:00:34 PM
a compulsive nutbird


This is a new term for me.  What means it?

Did I show you my podcast list?

Want me to type up the 700 CDs I haven't heard yet?
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: Sarah on June 15, 2011, 03:49:36 PM
I knew you'd get it, Dave.
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Post by: Bryan on June 15, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
Bring back Danny Finkleman!
Yeah, I loved Finkleman's 45s. It was kind of like the Best Show.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: crumbum on June 15, 2011, 09:11:30 PM
Bring back Danny Finkleman!
Yeah, I loved Finkleman's 45s. It was kind of like the Best Show.

Ditto. I was a big fan back in the day but I never really saw the connection between Danny and Tom until you drew it just now. He was a lovable curmudgeon.
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: amiright?? on June 15, 2011, 10:13:38 PM
Bring back Danny Finkleman!
Yeah, I loved Finkleman's 45s. It was kind of like the Best Show.

Ditto. I was a big fan back in the day but I never really saw the connection between Danny and Tom until you drew it just now. He was a lovable curmudgeon.

Wow - neither did I. But I can totally understand that, looking back.

Hmm... Do you think archive.org has any old episodes?

Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 16, 2011, 07:54:05 AM
I knew you'd get it, Dave.

Don't dare me/threaten everybody else.
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Post by: Sarah on June 16, 2011, 08:50:10 AM
You don't tell me what to do.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on June 16, 2011, 02:37:07 PM
You don't tell me what to do.

I love strong women.
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Post by: hardweek on November 15, 2011, 01:47:22 AM
Had to exhume this topic: guess who I interviewed today?  ;)
Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 15, 2011, 12:42:26 PM
That dude from that band?
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Post by: amiright?? on November 15, 2011, 01:12:18 PM
Danny Finkleman?
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Post by: hardweek on November 15, 2011, 01:44:14 PM
ha!

Stuart himself. It was actually kinda awesome.
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Post by: amiright?? on November 15, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Where can I listen to/read it??

Title: Re: Vinyl Cafe thread (thread will likely die very soon)
Post by: hardweek on November 15, 2011, 06:55:53 PM
It'll be in next month's issue of Beat Route Magazine http://www.beatroute.ca/ (http://www.beatroute.ca/)

I'll post a link when its out!