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Title: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: Greggulator on June 18, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
THE BIG MAN JOINED THE BAND!

Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band-10th Avenue Freeze-Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5buOHjOGiI#)
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: Steeley Chris on June 19, 2011, 01:22:06 PM
Who do I talk to about having the US national anthem changed from "The Star-Spangled Banner" to the Born To Run album in it entirety? This has been weighing on my mind for over a year.

I also wish there was more sax in rock music.

Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band - Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFdFpeBnt9U#ws)

Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: Greggulator on June 19, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
The New Jersey legislature once debated making Born to Run the official anthem of New Jersey. But then they quickly realized that the song was about getting the hell out of New Jersey and decided not to vote on the issue.

Also -- there's no point to any other rock band having sax, because no one will ever be as good as Clarence. Unless you want to talk about Rocket From the Crypt but that's kind of different, although I'm not sure how.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 19, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
There's James Chance/White! But also totally different.

RIP Clarence. You were the best.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 19, 2011, 05:01:15 PM
I saw Bruce a lot of times in the pre-superstar days and always liked it when he would preface a slowed-down version of "Tenth Avenue Freezeout" or "E Street Shuffle" with a long, funny shaggy-dog story about how he met Clarence. They would climax with the appearance of the Big Man under a single spotlight, in a flashy suit and Panama hat, just looking very cool.  Clarence brought a lot of style and soul to those early shows.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 19, 2011, 08:42:43 PM
The New Jersey legislature once debated making Born to Run the official anthem of New Jersey. But then they quickly realized that the song was about getting the hell out of New Jersey and decided not to vote on the issue.

Also -- there's no point to any other rock band having sax, because no one will ever be as good as Clarence. Unless you want to talk about Rocket From the Crypt but that's kind of different, although I'm not sure how.

Morphine?

Morphine - Early To Bed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zw1Bli1jbc#)
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 19, 2011, 09:45:15 PM
Well, I'd mention Steve MacKay but that would be in bad taste, it's Clarence who just died.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: fonpr on June 19, 2011, 10:00:12 PM
Well, I'd mention Steve MacKay but that would be in bad taste, it's Clarence who just died.

I thought of him as well.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: nec13 on June 20, 2011, 12:34:45 AM
Clarence's greatest moment was the Hammersmith Odeon concert from 1975. The E Street Band, and Clemons in particular, absolutely killed on that particular evening.

The music world is a much worse place without him.

RIP
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 20, 2011, 07:53:13 AM
The New Jersey legislature once debated making Born to Run the official anthem of New Jersey. But then they quickly realized that the song was about getting the hell out of New Jersey and decided not to vote on the issue.

This is like when politicians use Born in the USA as a campaign song. Do people just not know what words mean?
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: buffcoat on June 20, 2011, 11:29:44 AM
The New Jersey legislature once debated making Born to Run the official anthem of New Jersey. But then they quickly realized that the song was about getting the hell out of New Jersey and decided not to vote on the issue.

This is like when politicians use Born in the USA as a campaign song. Do people just not know what words mean?


The people who choose the song know exactly what it means.  They know that what it means is not important; rather, what is important is what the audience thinks it means.

You can see this throughout politics.  And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: fonpr on June 20, 2011, 04:46:05 PM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well. 
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: buffcoat on June 20, 2011, 05:28:05 PM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well.

You know better, though, right?  Not that the world is doomed, but that people will persist in what they want to believe in contravention of mere facts or previous statements or what they used to believe just as strongly.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: fonpr on June 20, 2011, 10:49:18 PM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well.

You know better, though, right?  Not that the world is doomed, but that people will persist in what they want to believe in contravention of mere facts or previous statements or what they used to believe just as strongly.
Sadly, yes.  I still love the old Enlightment myth.

I also know that newspaper corrections frequently reinforce the prior misstatement in the minds of readers.

Forget the truth.  We need some old-fashion manipulation.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 21, 2011, 07:52:54 AM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well.

You know better, though, right?  Not that the world is doomed, but that people will persist in what they want to believe in contravention of mere facts or previous statements or what they used to believe just as strongly.
Sadly, yes.  I still love the old Enlightment myth.

I also know that newspaper corrections frequently reinforce the prior misstatement in the minds of readers.

Forget the truth.  We need some old-fashion manipulation.

Fredericks, all my liiiiiiiiife, you're a frieeeeeeeend of mine
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: fonpr on June 21, 2011, 06:27:12 PM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well.

You know better, though, right?  Not that the world is doomed, but that people will persist in what they want to believe in contravention of mere facts or previous statements or what they used to believe just as strongly.
Sadly, yes.  I still love the old Enlightment myth.

I also know that newspaper corrections frequently reinforce the prior misstatement in the minds of readers.

Forget the truth.  We need some old-fashion manipulation.

Fredericks, all my liiiiiiiiife, you're a frieeeeeeeend of mine

Thanks for bringing it back to Clarence, friend.
Title: Re: RIP Clarence Clemons
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 21, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
And, while the young mind wants to believe that simply explaining what it means to the people who are hearing it would make a difference, it doesn't.  They will persist, as they always do, in believing what they want to believe.

Old minds want to believe as well.

You know better, though, right?  Not that the world is doomed, but that people will persist in what they want to believe in contravention of mere facts or previous statements or what they used to believe just as strongly.
Sadly, yes.  I still love the old Enlightment myth.

I also know that newspaper corrections frequently reinforce the prior misstatement in the minds of readers.

Forget the truth.  We need some old-fashion manipulation.

Fredericks, all my liiiiiiiiife, you're a frieeeeeeeend of mine

Thanks for bringing it back to Clarence, friend.

I'm still working out which of us winds up with Daryl, and which of us winds up with Little Stevie.