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Title: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: bmills on July 25, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
The tone on "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love" is untouchable, right? "Atomic Punk" at number two. Special considerations for the sick bass line on "Runnin' with the Devil."
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: eastgrandforks on July 25, 2011, 05:10:39 PM
No love for Hot for Teacher??? :o
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: masterofsparks on July 25, 2011, 06:41:47 PM
Definitely "Unchained."
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: bmills on July 25, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
Intro to "Hot For Teacher" is too long.  Thirty seconds of some drums and then Eddie noodles for a bit? No thanks. I would say the three second drum intro to "Jaime's Crying" is way more effective. Also, no DLR for a whole minute? Questionable.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: nec13 on July 25, 2011, 10:06:38 PM
Definitely "Unchained."

Yep.

My second choice would be "Spanish Fly."
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: buffcoat on July 25, 2011, 11:11:25 PM
My second choice would be "Spanish Fly."



Winner.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 25, 2011, 11:44:16 PM
I voted for "Unchained", but then I realized that I am a fan of "Intruder" even if the payoff afterwards is not so great. 
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 26, 2011, 08:09:08 AM
I never listened to them, outside of the hits. I have always felt sorry for Eddie in the sense that he was apparently like the Neil Armstrong of rock guitarists, regarded by the public as one of the greatest guitarists ever, when the greatest guitarists ever knew better. There was an article in the late-lamented "Musician" magazine that featured Van Halen, the Dixie Dregs' (and currently Deep Purples') Steve Morse, and amazing British fingerstyle guitarist Albert Lee (session superstar, and toured with Emmylou Harris for years) on the cover. They were at some sort of convention/multi-star celebration, and played a concert together when it ended. According to the article, whenever big brash overcranked rock was being played, all three of them played with amazing intensity and confidence. When the music shifted to any other style, while Morse and Lee continued to crank out one amazing musical layer/lick after another, Van Halen would actually turn his back to the crowd and stop playing. The writer implied he was just totally lost; had the slightest clue what was going on musically. Later when members of the guitar community were asked about the performance, they would go on and on about Morse and Lee; when pressed to comment on Van Halen, they would say things like "he's a great guy!"

When we used to try to set up guys with our cousins, the running joke was that they would ask "Is she good looking?" (more effective if you imagine it said with a thick southern accent), and we would inevitably answer "She's a really good dancer" since the girls, unfortunately for them, looked sort of like female versions of me.

Eddie Van Halen is the real good dancer of rock and roll.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: masterofsparks on July 26, 2011, 08:38:24 AM
Sleeper choice: One Foot Out the Door, which is sort of their punk tune.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: masterofsparks on July 26, 2011, 08:40:36 AM
I never listened to them, outside of the hits. I have always felt sorry for Eddie in the sense that he was apparently like the Neil Armstrong of rock guitarists, regarded by the public as one of the greatest guitarists ever, when the greatest guitarists ever knew better. There was an article in the late-lamented "Musician" magazine that featured Van Halen, the Dixie Dregs' (and currently Deep Purples') Steve Morse, and amazing British fingerstyle guitarist Albert Lee (session superstar, and toured with Emmylou Harris for years) on the cover. They were at some sort of convention/multi-star celebration, and played a concert together when it ended. According to the article, whenever big brash overcranked rock was being played, all three of them played with amazing intensity and confidence. When the music shifted to any other style, while Morse and Lee continued to crank out one amazing musical layer/lick after another, Van Halen would actually turn his back to the crowd and stop playing. The writer implied he was just totally lost; had the slightest clue what was going on musically. Later when members of the guitar community were asked about the performance, they would go on and on about Morse and Lee; when pressed to comment on Van Halen, they would say things like "he's a great guy!"

When we used to try to set up guys with our cousins, the running joke was that they would ask "Is she good looking?" (more effective if you imagine it said with a thick southern accent), and we would inevitably answer "She's a really good dancer" since the girls, unfortunately for them, looked sort of like female versions of me.

Eddie Van Halen is the real good dancer of rock and roll.

I'm not a guitarist so I'll defer to your judgement on EVH's guitar abilities, but I would argue that his guitar abilities, great or not, are not the reason to listen to Van Halen.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 26, 2011, 09:54:31 AM
I am still anxious to learn a reason.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: placeholder on July 26, 2011, 10:38:42 AM
Roth's stage patter at the US Festival.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: masterofsparks on July 26, 2011, 01:20:13 PM
Roth's stage patter at the US Festival.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on July 26, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
 Wayne Coyne (Flaming Lips) has interesting opinions on music. My favorite quote is something he like "Rock-and-roll should be dangerous and a little bit stupid". I'm not a VH fan but they have their moments. Whatever entertainment value I get from Van Halen is because they they follow Wayne's rule to a T.

Unchained
Van Halen - Unchained 81 HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMyJAcHlCGc #)
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: bmills on July 26, 2011, 02:52:42 PM
Come on Dave, give me a break.

Roth's stage patter at the US Festival.

"The only people... who put iced tea... in Jack Daniels bottles... IS THE CLASH BABY!" Realest dude.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: daveB from Oakland on July 26, 2011, 03:19:31 PM
I would say the three second drum intro to "Jaime's Crying" is way more effective.

Tone Loc agrees 100%

(http://www.nndb.com/people/905/000087644/toneloc02.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 26, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
Michael Anthony did all the heavy lifting for that band.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: Dan of Orange on July 26, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
'Hot Summer Nights' (and my radio)
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: orangewhip on July 27, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
I voted for "other" a.k.a. "Hot for Teacher".  It said "Show Your Work", must've forgot my pencil.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: buffcoat on July 27, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
Michael Anthony did all the heavy lifting for that band.


Didn't he have a sundae bar on his bass?
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: Amplituden on July 27, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
I vote "Mean Streets" because it has some of the craziest EVH shredding at the beginning, also the song has cursing which made me like it when I was 13.
Title: Re: Serious Discussion: Best Van Halen Intro
Post by: Dan of Orange on July 27, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
'Mike Anthony - Scarily Enthusiastic: A Biography'..... all in fun.