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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris from Chicago on November 04, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
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Was this recorded for online listening / downloading? I quick-searched the WFMU website...didn't see anything.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm bumping this back up to the top so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle just yet..... Any updates?
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I asked the same thing on Twitter. No responses so far.
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This five-minute except was in Therese' Twitter feed:
http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/11/ira-glass-who-cares-if-radio-survives-something-else-will-happen/ (http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/11/ira-glass-who-cares-if-radio-survives-something-else-will-happen/)
I haven't listened, but I don't think the live GOMP is part of it.
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It's not.
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Discussing the future of radio, and failing to record it for distribution on the internet seems like too cruel a fate for WFMU.
Perhaps it will surface in some premium format, maybe This American Life already have the dibs on it?
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I'm sure it will surface eventually, but not for ... oh, let's call it 'a decent interval'. If you paid 85 bucks--even if it does go to a good cause--and then they posted the whole thing a few days later, wouldn't you be a little peeved?
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I'm sure it will surface eventually, but not for ... oh, let's call it 'a decent interval'. If you paid 85 bucks--even if it does go to a good cause--and then they posted the whole thing a few days later, wouldn't you be a little peeved?
The experience of being there and seeing three respected entertainers / comedians jive with each other justifies the ticket price. You're paying for the dynamic, not the byproduct.
Is that really the reason why this isn't being posted? B/C you weren't there, you're not allowed to listen?
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I'm sure it will surface eventually, but not for ... oh, let's call it 'a decent interval'. If you paid 85 bucks--even if it does go to a good cause--and then they posted the whole thing a few days later, wouldn't you be a little peeved?
The experience of being there and seeing three respected entertainers / comedians jive with each other justifies the ticket price. You're paying for the dynamic, not the byproduct.
Is that really the reason why this isn't being posted? B/C you weren't there, you're not allowed to listen?
I think it makes sense. If they ever want to do this again (and I think they do), they want to give people a reason to go. These are radio personalities, remember, so many fans would probably opt to wait for the free audio.
If they do do it again, they'll probably cut costs and lower the prices, and maybe do it a different time of year -- I wanted to see other stuff like Joe Frank and the mayor of Reykjavik, but I barely had enough time to squeeze the one event in between shopping and volunteering.
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The $85 ticket price is what helped underwrite the whole conference in the first place - it wasn't just Scharpling et al, it was a whole day of presentations by a number of different radio people - and that was just Saturday. There were separate programs (and ticket prices) for Friday and Sunday too.
$85 is a HUGE ticket price for a full day of listening to people talk about radio- specifically radio as an art form and the future of said art form. It's not that it ain't worth it - It's a donation. WFMU is a non profit. You're asking people to pay way more than the going rate for something like this and what you get in return is what you called the experience of being there - the exclusivity of it is part of the incentive. It's your reward for helping out & drawing attention to the cause. It's the same thing as getting that Best Show DVD - the DVD isn't $75, the DVD is the thank you for donating $75. Tom didn't go put the thing up on youtube, did he?
For really special situations and causes, S&W have donated an exclusive call to be auctioned off; the winner gets his/her own call and gets mentioned IN the call. I won't throw numbers around but I think bids have gone into at least the 4 figures- that gets donated and the winner gets a totally rare thing. Search in the archives of this board for more info. S&W aren't punishing people for not trying to win the auction - its more like let's see how much money we can raise with this thing that people want. One such call got posted here like a year later - for the S&W completists. I'm sure that was left up to the person who won - he wasn't under any obligation to let people hear it.
Long and short of it -yeah, it's likely to turn up, but maybe not. You never know - someone said it could get used as a premium either for Ira Glass or WFMU - I could see that happening.
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Preface to following comment: I hear what you're saying and understand your point. I can see the valid reasoning behind it. I think you are right in what you're saying.
However, it seems that the concept of "profiting through exclusivity" is really the polar opposite of what a Non-Profit Public-Use Business's mission statement usually is. You could go so far to to say that profiting through the idea of exclusivity is exactly what makes a private for-profit business exactly that, for-profit and private.
It makes more sense to make your argument to those in the surrounding areas, but it feels like it loses steam when applied to the other 96% of listeners (geographically speaking). For us 96%'ers, making the decision to spend the money or not never took place.
Regardless, and in fear that this is arriving dangerously close to a Gawker-like thread, I'll leave it at this: Decisions made to keep things like this exclusive to those few hundred/thousand people to chose to come is a great community-building idea! But, leaving the other 96% (who may have wanted to come or not) no access to at least the recording may not be the best play in the long-run. Right?
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I paid...well, my job paid the $85 and my bus ran late and I missed The Kid.
But the rest of the day was cool.
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It'll be up at some point. Keep your shorts on.
In the meantime I refer you to the 3000 hours of programming that myself, Ira Glass and Marc Maron available on the internet.
Tom.
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We are the 96%!