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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: KickTheBobo on June 10, 2007, 05:36:38 PM
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C'Mon Guys.
Nice to see the poster giving a link to TBSOWFMU, though!
http://www.metafilter.com/61946/Sleep-is-where-Ralph-is-a-Viking (http://www.metafilter.com/61946/Sleep-is-where-Ralph-is-a-Viking)
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Yet to listen to the latest Best Show, but my head seriously hurts now. I can't understand how so many people would think that he meant he's good at sleeping. This is bizarre.. it's like one of those ink blots where everyone sees different things.
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There's something fishy going on here. I remember hearing this on the show on tuesday and, despite being very drunk, I knew I'd read it somewhere before.
http://bored.knockknockrecords.com/index.php/topic,29155.0.html
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http://www.maximumfun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784
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Wow, I always thought it meant he excelled at sleeping also. I'm shocked to see I seem to be in such a huge minority when I didn't even consider that it meant he dreamt of being a viking. I guess I can't wrap my head around the idea of people controlling what they dream about, like Ralph aparently can. I actually had a dream last night that I was ten years older and I had become an overweight hockey fan and reverted back to my old 6th grade haircut. I would have prefered to be a viking.
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There's something fishy going on here.
Yes, considering that this episode is 12 years old and the movie is out next month, I'm a little suspicious too.
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I refuse to weigh in on this beyond my initial weighing in. Yeesh, talk about running something that doesn't matter into the ground.
And who is that animal over at Maxiumum Fun who won't accept me as an authority on anything?
You need to realize who you're messing with, son.
Tom.
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I've believed since the episode first aired that it meant he was good at sleeping and my life has been better for it. Subtly, perhaps, but better.
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Would people over-analyze this shit if he had said, "Sleep! That's where I'm a pirate!"? Seriously, guys. How could it be anything but the obvious?
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Would people over-analyze this shit if he had said, "Sleep! That's where I'm a pirate!"? Seriously, guys. How could it be anything but the obvious?
Because Ralph uses twisted Ralph logic.
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Would people over-analyze this shit if he had said, "Sleep! That's where I'm a pirate!"? Seriously, guys. How could it be anything but the obvious?
Because Ralph uses twisted Ralph logic.
But Ralph is also not very smart. Was there a hidden meaning when he said that his cat's breath smells like cat food? Or that he bent his wookiee?
What if Ralph had said he's a merchant marine in his dreams? Or a fireman?
I need to stop thinking about people over-thinking this crap.
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A joke I never got was at the end of Groundhog Day when Andie Macdowell sez "let's not spoil it" to Ned the annoying guy.
http://www.entertonement.com/143044/Groundhog_Day/Let's_not_spoil_it/Tone.aspx (http://www.entertonement.com/143044/Groundhog_Day/Let's_not_spoil_it/Tone.aspx)
What? Why is that funny? Am I moron for not getting it? The fuck?
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All it would take would be for him to see a drawing of a viking and think "vikings are big and strong and conquer stuff" (I believe that's also how Timmy Von Trimble got started). The only task poor, befuddled Ralph can conquer is sleep. I'm amazed that no one has written a thesis about this for their college "Simpsons and Philosophy" class.
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Would people over-analyze this shit if he had said, "Sleep! That's where I'm a pirate!"? Seriously, guys. How could it be anything but the obvious?
Exactly! BUT! Apparantly, in the foreign versions of this episode, the translations are along the lines of "sleep! I'm good at that!".
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During the listening party last week, I turned to someone standing next to me (was it you, Patrick Chew? Or Dorvid Barnas? I can't remember), and I said, "I always assumed Ralph meant he dreamt of being a white supremacist." I'm hilarious.
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I heard it Laurie, and you are hilarious. Actually, your explanation makes more sense to me than Ralph using "viking" as a metaphor for his success at sleeping. I've looked at a couple of simpsons fan message boards and people are either reading way too much into one-off jokes like this or they just don't get the more obvious ones (e.g., "Homer got fired from the power plant in this episode, but then he's back working there in the next one. When did he get re-hired?"). Yeesh.
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Is that a Norse Savage reference?
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this thread is really separating the FOT yes-men from the contrarians.
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If it's that he's good at sleeping then it's a weak joke.
If it's that in his dreams he is a viking then it's a really weak joke.
I mean big deal, you are a viking in your dreams. I'm a spaceman in mine. No reason to brag about it in class.
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No reason to brag about it in class.
But it's Ralph! And I took it as not bragging but fond reminiscence.
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Is it possible he meant that in his dreams he plays for the Minnesota Vikings? Maybe the team was really good that year.
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Get off my bone, the Vikings have NEVER been good. They rival the Bills for worst franchise / luck but that is aside from the fact and I don't really care about football.
I don't like to be super conspiratorial and I am a huge fan of the Simpsons but I wonder if there is an undercurrent of hype to this phenomenon. I know this debate has made it to many messageboards (the one I run gets a ton of hits and that thread did well) and it just makes me feel like, hmmmm, is someone behind the curtain pulling the strings trying to build up hype for the Simpsons movie. I am sure they thought people would be far more excited than they actually are at this point. Who knows? Seeing what people are doing for marketing these days (aka get cool people to go around promoting products via screen print workshops or things like Red Bull), I always wonder. A group of our friends also gets together to play b-ball every week and the Red Bull truck stopped by to see what the deal was and push Red Bull.
Anyways, Ralph is a great character and I like the idea of him with an oversized viking helmet at the bow of the ship looking off in to the sunset with a bunch of pandas driving the ship. Or something else absurd.
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Is that a Norse Savage reference?
Yes, I was thinking of little Timmy von Trimble's favorite band at the time.
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People should spend more time reading their bibles.
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Holy Guacamole. Those debates make me sad. Has everyone forgotten that t.v. shows are written by PEOPLE? More specifically, a STAFF of WRITERS? Isn't it just possible that out of 13 million Simpsons episodes there could be a one-off line that's not so hot, barely makes any sense, and maybe not entirely faithful to the 1100 year continuity of The Simpsons?
Maybe TRL is right. It could be "viral marketing". Or even a conspiracy to cover the tracks of lame jokes of years past. "We really dropped the ball on this Ralph/Viking/Sleep joke back in Season 58 of 1783. This new movie might uncover this past indiscretion. Best thing to do is actually to put it out there ourselves, but with a mole who himself is confused about the barely-understandable one-off line." It's like the Swiftboats thing or something.
Also, I gotta say, cheers to The Simpsons for striking while the iron has been dead cold for 4 years with this movie release.
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Has everyone forgotten that t.v. shows are written by PEOPLE?
I'm pretty sure The Simpsons is written by a machine these days.
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it's true!
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Action, Man!
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Time for everyone to find a more constructive hobby