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Title: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 23, 2015, 01:38:37 AM
I recently had to pare down my singles collection (once I list them all I'll probably make them available to any of you lot), but as I went through I really took a look at my collection and realized that I'll have some of these until they put me in the dirt. Do you guys have any?

Some examples from me:
-Milligan's Shade the Changing Man
-Fraction's Defenders and Invincible Iron Man
-any and all Hellblazer issues
-Gillen's Young Avengers
-Current Image boom (Sex Crims, Pretty Deadly, Velvet, ect ect)
-Machine Man #1
-Ellis' Secret Avengers

Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: buffcoat on February 23, 2015, 09:51:54 AM
I thought this was going to be about "Comics you will never be able to get rid of."

I was going to suggest Billy Crystal (obv), Jon Lovitz, Howie Mandel.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 23, 2015, 11:37:15 AM
Oh, man, that is worth pursuing as well.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: lastplaneout on February 23, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
For me, it's the Chris Claremont/Bill Sienkiewicz run of New Mutants. The Demon Bear and Legion storylines are my favorite things ever.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 23, 2015, 07:31:09 PM
Oh, man, New Mutants! I have a wishlist that I always take to conventions and that should definitely be on it. I'll also add Si Spurrier's run on X-Men: Legacy, which may have been the book that finally made me an X-Men fan.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: BadGuyZero on February 23, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
The "Marvels" mini-series. It gave me the same feeling of awe and wonder that I had when I first started reading comics as a kid.

All issues of "Hate" and "Eightball"
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 23, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Whoooo, boy, is Marvels great or what? I used to have these awful water stained copies of the first three issues and I still read the hell out of them. When Brusiek is on, he is hot fire. I've never heard of Hate and Eightball, but I'm sure I'll dig them. There isn't many comics that I don't.

I'll also never throw out any issues of New Avengers. Bendis and Hickman. I love both takes on the team and the book's ragtag origin.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Dip Apesworth on February 24, 2015, 02:24:20 AM
Gaiman's Sandman and the quasi-spinoff Lucifer. Those two I go back to time and time again. Sandman Overture is out right now - it's an interesting return to a story concluded some years ago. I have low expectations for the Lucifer TV show one of the networks is producing...yet another procedural.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 24, 2015, 02:30:24 AM
Yeah, I have no idea why Lucifer needs to be a procedural. It makes no sense to me at all. Mike Carey though...that dude can write.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Mike Desert on February 24, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Early New Mutants for sure. Tim Vigil stuff (Grips and Faust), my old X-men (Clairemont era), anything Kirby, Fat Ninja, Boris the Bear, Roachmill, the Spirit, HATE, Angry Youth Comix, House of Mystery/Secrets, Exquisite Corpse, Hard Boiled, Elektra mini series, Secret Wars, KISS, Crisis, Grendel and Mage....I should just toss everything else.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 24, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
I LOVE House of Mystery/Secrets. Honestly, I'll buy most anything with a Vertigo logo on it.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Mike Desert on February 24, 2015, 03:38:15 PM
I actually meant these, I didn't know there was a new series...I'll have to check em out!

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081224132444/marvel_dc/images/7/73/House_of_Mystery_v.1_273.jpg)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 24, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
Oh, man, these are even better! I always try to pick up old DC and EC horror comics when I can. They are nasty little yarns. The Vertigo ones I babbled about were mainly centered on the Dreaming's version of the House of Secrets with Cain and Abel as the main characters. It also focused on the magic side of the DCU.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: fonpr on February 24, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
Mort Sahl explains politics - 1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5yd3Nqp19s#)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 25, 2015, 12:12:41 AM
Point taken. (this KILLED me)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on February 25, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
moving overseas led me to look at everything I own based upon it's weight and volume vs. perceived value.  many comics, along with half of my record collection, didn't make the cut, and instead were donated to friends in Texas. 

I'd love to see my Groo the Wanderers back again someday, but I'm not holding my breath.

to answer the topic, I'd say, the Bill Sienkiewic epic Stray Toasters, followed by anything else Bill S. drew the cover for, and then Alan Moore's Neonomicon stuff.

really, when you're put to the task, everything is expendable.

currently, I live for the series "Low" on Image Comics.  I'll be making a pilgrimage to the comic shop this weekend to pick up the last one (#6) that came out this week.  the compendium is due out soon; do yourself a favor and be the first in line to get it.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 25, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
Image Comics have been crazy good in the past three years. I'm glad that that imprint is finally really thriving like it should be. Also, you ain't kidding about everything being expendable when I really looked at my collection and weighed what I would read again and wouldn't, the chaff astounded me. I had bought some truly bad comics.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on February 25, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
I was ok at getting rid of my of my physical possessions (records included), but the thought of the giving up the comics that I'd had since a teenager still gives me existential buddhist breakdown.

Image is so good right now.  although it's almost cliche to like the Walking Dead these days, thanks to Image, I've learned to appreciate black and white comics, like I thought I'd never would.   note: I avoid the Walking Dead tv show....as it causes me to nerdrage over plot deviations. 

seriously: LOW.  I've considered buying extra copies, just to frame on my wall.

(https://d138hkes00e90m.cloudfront.net/release_images/Low_01-1.png)



Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 25, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
A bunch of people that I work with have been crazy into it from the beginning. I really need to get on the bus with it. Are you reading Trees or The Wicked + The Divine? I think the latter could end up being Gillen and McKelvie's masterpiece. Trees is just Warren Ellis being Warren Ellis and its candy. I always keep a bunch of Image stuff near the tops of all my piles just so I can randomly grab something great to read.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Mike Desert on February 26, 2015, 11:10:56 AM
Mulch
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on February 26, 2015, 05:57:52 PM
Are you reading Trees or The Wicked + The Divine? I think the latter could end up being Gillen and McKelvie's masterpiece. Trees is just Warren Ellis being Warren Ellis and its candy.
my wife picked up Trees somewhat randomly (we were getting everything from Image that we could lay our hands on).  I think I have 3-4 issues, but we've missed some.  there's not as many comic stores here as in the state, so we've been limited by location...and cost.  each issue runs about $8 a copy, so finding new stuff gets pricey.

I'm hoping to wait for the compendium of Trees, much as I did for Supergod. I really love Warren Ellis.

I have a friend (who once proved to me that DC Comics aren't actually shit, like I thought they were) who's really into Grant Morrison (he wrote his thesis about him).  he's got me into The Multiversity. it's convuluted, but really good.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 27, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
I'm LOVING Multiversity. That is one of the only few current comics that I'm still buying as soon as it hits shelves. I'm a big Morrison guy though. I even love his misfires.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: euphoriafish on February 28, 2015, 04:13:40 AM
I definitely agree about Sandman and Hellblazer.  I have about 50 issues of Sandman collected as single reprints and sometimes used original prints, and one trade of Hellblazer.

Did you guys hear they are maybe going to move Constantine from NBC to SyFy and properly call it Hellblazer finally?  I'm excited about this.  Maybe SyFy doesn't suck anymore.

I also like my singles of Cerebus and one trade, and a single Fabulous Furry Freak Bros. issue, plus some assorted Peter Bagge and Evan Dorkin underground comics.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Carver on February 28, 2015, 08:57:01 AM
I just recently mailed a big box of comics from where they have resided in my parent's house since I was 12 - highlights included some of the Jim Starlin Batman run, a few Englehart Silver Surfers, and some of the Morrison Doom Patrols.  When I was 12 I didn't know who those writers were, just bought them for the titles and covers usually. 
I just recently got way back into comics, mostly through Grant Morrison stuff and Brubaker/Phillips.  I read a lot of digital, so I love that Image will actually sell you a CBR file to download and keep.  It doesn't feel right to pay money to an app like Comixology when you never actually own the comic files.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on February 28, 2015, 03:18:31 PM
I definitely agree about Sandman and Hellblazer.  I have about 50 issues of Sandman collected as single reprints and sometimes used original prints, and one trade of Hellblazer.

Did you guys hear they are maybe going to move Constantine from NBC to SyFy and properly call it Hellblazer finally?  I'm excited about this.  Maybe SyFy doesn't suck anymore.

I also like my singles of Cerebus and one trade, and a single Fabulous Furry Freak Bros. issue, plus some assorted Peter Bagge and Evan Dorkin underground comics.

I'm REALLY hoping that Constantine makes the jump to SyFy. Not only would that help SyFy actually be a network that I enjoy, but I'm sure the show would be much, MUCH better.

Also, I'm ding dang jealous of your Sandman collection. I only have like three issues from A Doll's House but I treasure them just the same.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: euphoriafish on February 28, 2015, 09:40:42 PM
You guys are tempting me with talk of Low, Trees, etc.  I don't know them at all and wish I had more money for comics.  Also heard New 52 Wonder Woman is pretty good, and She-Hulk, though I don't typically read super heroes anymore.  Used to love Sovereign Seven back in the day because it was like the least super heroic of super hero comics, focusing more on interpersonal connection than super powers.  I hope I can find the rest of it some day; we subscribed for about a year and there are only 35 issues so it's a fast read when I invest the money to collect the rest of it.  Also love Ninja Turtles enough to write a spec for the Nickelodeon series.

What's your habit as far as browsing a comic store?  I always go through the used bins and the new shelves but have never had the nerve to ask for a price check and feel like I'm doing it wrong socially or something.  I've never gotten rid of any old ones either.  Hate digital apps and want actual art objects to possess but feel like there's a lot of guessing involved and sometimes luck.  I generally pick up something I haven't read before if I've heard of the author or if it has a quirky art style that looks like no other book on the shelf.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 01, 2015, 12:00:51 AM
Pretty much everything being put out by Image Comics right now is gold. Deadly Class, The Fade Out, Sex Criminals; they are all winners. She-Hulk is perfect. Absolutely perfect. Charles Soule apparently used to be a lawyer so the entire series is focused around Jennifer as a lawyer and superhero, and she pals around with Patsy Walker. I can't recommend it highly enough.

I never finished the New 52 WW, but I liked what I read. Some people I work with said it went off the rails, but I couldn't say. The New 52 was pretty hit or miss with me, so I missed a lot of it.

When I am browsing a store I usually either look for writers/artists that I like first off. Like, I have a roster of favorites that I will follow and usually pick up most of their work. Matt Fraction for instance, I'll read anything he writes. Usually for cape comics, I follow certain characters and teams so if I find a random book with a character that I like on the cover, I'll usually buy it. I call it The Namor Rule.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on March 09, 2015, 11:02:25 PM
I picked up issue # 6 of Low (which marks the last of this "cycle") as well as the collected volumes (issue #1) of Sex Criminals.

I'm not sure what I was expecting of Sex Criminals, but I've totally been blown away by it.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Dip Apesworth on March 10, 2015, 02:20:42 AM
I'd like to stump for all of Swamp Thing. Alan Moore's run was groundbreaking, it introduced John Constantine. I've always been a sucker for Swamp Thing, from the pulpy beginnings to the most recent 40 issue run that just finished. You guys should check that last issue out, it gets meta in an interesting way.

Also, the Swamp Thing live action TV series starring Dick Durock. Pure gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leoZHWcYXj0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leoZHWcYXj0)

"Only dumb kids dream" - Alec Holland
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 10, 2015, 08:30:46 PM
I'd like to stump for all of Swamp Thing.

OKAY. I have loved all sorts of incarnations of Swampy throughout my entire comic reading life, BUT I hadn't met anyone else who had read the recent Snyder/Soule run on it, which is quickly becoming one of my favorite runs throughout the title's history. I love that Snyder returned it to the balls out horror roots of it and Soule just started throwing stuff at the wall in terms of Swamp Thing's lore. It is really, really solid stuff. Plus, it also doesn't hurt that those first issues with Yanick Paquette had some of the most gorgeous panel layouts I've ever seen.

Did you read Lemire's Animal Man that came out at the same time? It was also really terrific.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Mike Desert on March 11, 2015, 12:30:33 AM
bernie wrightson

nuff said
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 11, 2015, 12:38:54 AM
The cover of #7 is one of my all time favorites.

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070215185848/marvel_dc/images/4/41/Swamp_Thing_v.1_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Dip Apesworth on March 12, 2015, 03:07:41 AM
I'd like to stump for all of Swamp Thing.

OKAY. I have loved all sorts of incarnations of Swampy throughout my entire comic reading life, BUT I hadn't met anyone else who had read the recent Snyder/Soule run on it, which is quickly becoming one of my favorite runs throughout the title's history. I love that Snyder returned it to the balls out horror roots of it and Soule just started throwing stuff at the wall in terms of Swamp Thing's lore. It is really, really solid stuff. Plus, it also doesn't hurt that those first issues with Yanick Paquette had some of the most gorgeous panel layouts I've ever seen.

Did you read Lemire's Animal Man that came out at the same time? It was also really terrific.


Swamp Thing was probably the best series to come out of New 52. The expansion of the mythos, horror themes, even the reintroduction of Moore's blue alien plant Swamp Thing, all of these were neat and well-crafted.

Lemire did a great job on Animal Man, too. He took the character in an interesting and certainly complimentary to Swamp Thing direction. Quality artwork and character design, I really dug that. The Rot World crossover was great, too. The rot character designs are among the creepier, gross-out stuff I've seen.

(http://multiversitystatic.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2012/05/ROTWORLD.jpeg)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 12, 2015, 02:39:58 PM
Rotworld was definitely my favorite event to come out of the New 52. I loved that it worked really great read in tandem with both titles, but still stood by itself if you weren't reading both of them at the same time.

Also, can we talk about about how damn great the Swamp Thing Annuals were? I had never been the biggest Annual guy until Snyder and Lemire's.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on March 12, 2015, 10:39:09 PM
May 27th! so excited.  The Courtyard, and Neonomicon were outstanding.
(http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Providence01_regular.jpg)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 12, 2015, 11:21:46 PM
I am really, really curious to see how well this one plays. Courtyard is awesome, but Neonomicon gets uglier and uglier every time I read it. It is a tough thing to just sit and read.

I also find it really funny that Moore is constantly talking about how he wants little to nothing to do with comics nowadays, yet he is more than willing to work with Avatar.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on March 13, 2015, 12:01:28 AM
Neonomicon was one of the few things to genuinely shock me in quite some time. Sure, I'm jaded, but mostly I chock it up to poor writing attempts. Neonomicon is full-on grimace worthy, that's for sure, but as a fan of all things Miskatonic, I can't help but be sold.

have you listened to any of The Moon and Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre of Marvels?


Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 13, 2015, 01:45:32 PM
I haven't actually. I'm a big Lovecraft guy too and you nailed it, Neonomicon was truly shocking. I still baffles me that he was allowed to get away with it.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on March 19, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
I've had a hard time getting into Moore's book The Voice of Fire, but I know his spoken word stuff (set to music by David J from Bauhaus, and Tim Perkins) word-for-word.

do yourself a favor and find them ALL...NOW.

this one is my favorite:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8r4cfXRUM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8r4cfXRUM#)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Biscuit Gravy on March 19, 2015, 07:08:34 PM
Jacen Burrows blurry images in frames where the FBI agent lost her glasses are so well done, you almost forget that there's a giant Dagon Fish Cult Monster's bathroom-parts in the picture.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 20, 2015, 12:43:59 PM
I've tried reading that Voices of the Fire about four times and I still can't get into it. Maybe I should just try all the spoken word versions of the stories.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Mike Desert on March 22, 2015, 11:41:59 PM
Any fans of Crossed?
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 23, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
I really like certain arcs. Like the first arc I really enjoyed, plus Si Spurrier's digital run. I also LOVED Ennis' return arc set in Scotland and starring a horribly scarred Prince Harry. Oh, and I really loved David Lapham's run, which still gives me chills to think about.

Is Moore's run out yet or is that still on the horizon?
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 24, 2015, 04:14:57 AM
My single-issue comics are one of very few reasons why I'm still paying for a storage unit some 3000+ miles away. Lots of stuff in there I could probably cull -- the Busiek/Perez Avengers, the entire Wildstorm ABC line -- but also plenty of stuff that I'm attached to: complete runs of Eightball and Hate, the Morrison Doom Patrol, almost all of the Alan Moore Swamp Thing and plenty of 80s-90s Love & Rockets. I'll probably never buy single issues again, though. There's so much stuff available in TPB that I'll never get through it all.

At the moment, reading my kid silver age DC and Marvel collections. Highly recommended for parents of small children! Especially considering how few comics published after 1970 are at all appropriate for kids.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Funky Ratchet on March 24, 2015, 11:11:28 AM
Ambush Bug.

I've re-read those issues so many times (especially the first couple of mini-series and the DC Comics Presents appearances), even as an adult, and I'm only recently realizing how profoundly they have influenced my sense of humor.  (Take that for what you will.)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 24, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Ambush Bug is, and will always will be, hilarious. It has always irked me that Deadpool was always more popular despite having ripped off Ambush's whole shtick.

Also, how great was that Busiek/Perez run of Avengers? Truly amazing stuff from start to finish. I had also wondered just what to start my kid reading comics with. I have some Silver Age stuff but it never occurred to me to start reading that stuff to him. Might have to start doing that.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Dip Apesworth on March 26, 2015, 02:44:27 AM
Side note: Anybody know what the picture on Tom's Twitter of that cantankerous hack Stan Lee thumbs-downing a best show bumper sticker is about?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaQMgMgCYAAemaK.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on March 27, 2015, 04:49:44 PM
Oh, man, that picture just made my month.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Funky Ratchet on March 27, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
Side note: Anybody know what the picture on Tom's Twitter of that cantankerous hack Stan Lee thumbs-downing a best show bumper sticker is about?
Sheer speculation but I wondered if it came about via Matt Fraction.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: Carver on October 02, 2015, 01:21:00 AM
May 27th! so excited.  The Courtyard, and Neonomicon were outstanding.
(http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Providence01_regular.jpg)

This is turning out to be truly great, just killing it with the pacing and little details that build up a genuine sense of dread. 
Almost makes up for the government list my name is probably on for owning that damned Neonomicon.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on October 02, 2015, 05:34:20 PM
I've been really curious about Providence. I'm glad to hear it's good. I'm hoping that it ends Moore's weird HPL trilogy on a great note.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: euphoriafish on October 06, 2015, 01:57:05 AM
Thanks for the intel about Providence.  I may trade some old singles this week and was looking for suggestions for a new issue to try.

Is anyone reading the new Gail Simone Red Sonja?  I'm thinking of looking for that maybe.  It seems like this super macho male gaze-y sort of classic, and just knowing that a woman is doing it now intrigues me.  I still haven't read original 70s Red Sonja but I read a lot of Cerebus which parodies it and am thinking maybe it's time to go to the inspiration.
Title: Re: Comics You Will Never Get Rid Of
Post by: JeffertonFromTX on October 06, 2015, 02:49:45 AM
Okay, so, Simone's Red Sonja is incredible for a lot of reasons but the main one is that she completely flips the whole perception of Sonja as a overly sexualized and wank baity character on its head mainly by making Sonja sexualize nearly every one she meets. It's filled with all sorts of badassery and amazing set pieces but it's Simone's funniest book since Secret Six with a fantastic runner of Sonja desperately trying to get laid but no one wants to touch her because they are so scared of her.

Margurete Bennett is about to take over for her after she steps down but I cannot recommend Simone's run highly enough.