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Title: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 20, 2008, 11:23:12 PM
Anyone seen any good ones so far?  I saw Arnaud Desplechin's A Christmas Tale and really liked it, and Milk and loved it.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Chris L on December 21, 2008, 12:28:35 AM
The only film I have high expectations for is Wendy and Lucy, even though I didn't much care for Old Joy.  The only other thing worth seeing in a theater here appears to be The Wrestler.   I'm not watching Revolutionary Road until I re-read the book, and who knows when that'll be. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: John Junk 2.0 on December 21, 2008, 12:40:11 AM
The only film I have high expectations for is Wendy and Lucy, even though I didn't much care for Old Joy.  The only other thing worth seeing in a theater here appears to be The Wrestler.   I'm not watching Revolutionary Road until I re-read the book, and who knows when that'll be. 

I liked Old Joy but Wendy and Lucy kinda looks like if Juno got an abortion, ran away from home, was robbed of her powers of snark and left for dead. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Chris L on December 21, 2008, 12:49:11 AM
I liked Old Joy but Wendy and Lucy kinda looks like if Juno got an abortion, ran away from home, was robbed of her powers of snark and left for dead. 

That's all fine with me, I just hope the dog makes it out ok. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: jbissell on December 21, 2008, 01:27:38 AM
Anyone seen any good ones so far?  I saw Arnaud Desplechin's A Christmas Tale and really liked it, and Milk and loved it.

A Christmas Tale was really great.  The only two that I really want to see are Milk and The Wrestler.  I'm sure I'll see some other stuff but none of it is really looking too exciting to me.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on December 21, 2008, 04:41:15 AM
Wendy and Lucy was great. Michelle Williams is very good.

I liked A Christmas Tale fine, but I can't say that I loved it. Solid performances. Didn't care for the odd visuals. And what, really, is Desplechin saying about the chaotic, neurotic family during the holidays that we haven't seen a million times before? If anything, the depiction of the home, the colorful characters etc, is more like a middleclass fantasy of the bourgeoisie.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Come on, Jason on December 21, 2008, 05:04:58 AM
I'll go ahead and answer the question nobody asked:

1) Milk
2) Wall-E
3) Man on Wire
4) Rachel Getting Married
5) The Dark Knight

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: daveB from Oakland on December 21, 2008, 12:47:19 PM
Rachel Getting Married was great, as was Slumdog Millionaire.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on December 21, 2008, 01:11:41 PM
I'll go ahead and answer the question nobody asked:

1) Milk-E
2) Knight Getting Married
3) Man on Rachel
4) Dark Wire Wall
5) The

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 21, 2008, 01:40:05 PM
Wendy and Lucy was great. Michelle Williams is very good.

I liked A Christmas Tale fine, but I can't say that I loved it. Solid performances. Didn't care for the odd visuals. And what, really, is Desplechin saying about the chaotic, neurotic family during the holidays that we haven't seen a million times before? If anything, the depiction of the home, the colorful characters etc, is more like a middleclass fantasy of the bourgeoisie.

Yeah, that's true, it was pretty much Fanny and Alexander with some visual references to Hitchcock and Godard and probably some other stuff I'm too much of a cinedummy to have picked up on.  Kings & Queen was unequivocally a better movie.  Still, I get a little jumpy around the "this story's been told a million times before" argument, because the same can be said about any story.  Though I have also said this about family dramas, and had it said about the one family drama I've ever written (or probably will ever write).

I'm looking forward to The Wrestler, and I also want to see Slumdog Millionaire.  I don't know anything about Wendy & Lisa.  Is it about those ladies from Prince's band?

I feel like I already know what Revolutionary Road is before having seen it -- more Sam Mendes crap.  A fairly profound and depressing story wrapped up in symmetrical camera work and twinkly lights -- even the guy's theater work is like this.  I have to admit I was taken in the first couple of times (his Cabaret on Broadway and the first time I saw American Beauty), but there's a lot less there than meets the eye.  Watching his movies (or plays) is like eating Tastykakes for dinner.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on December 21, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
Wendy and Lucy was great. Michelle Williams is very good.

I liked A Christmas Tale fine, but I can't say that I loved it. Solid performances. Didn't care for the odd visuals. And what, really, is Desplechin saying about the chaotic, neurotic family during the holidays that we haven't seen a million times before? If anything, the depiction of the home, the colorful characters etc, is more like a middleclass fantasy of the bourgeoisie.

Yeah, that's true, it was pretty much Fanny and Alexander with some visual references to Hitchcock and Godard and probably some other stuff I'm too much of a cinedummy to have picked up on.  Kings & Queen was unequivocally a better movie.  Still, I get a little jumpy around the "this story's been told a million times before" argument, because the same can be said about any story.  Though I have also said this about family dramas, and had it said about the one family drama I've ever written (or probably will ever write).


You're absolutely right, of course. The "million times before" argument is pretty dumb. I think my reaction to the film became more intense because of all the "best movie of the year" talk I'd been hearing from friends (hardcore cinephiles, too), and I didn't experience any of that profound Film Art they did. As I said, I liked it, but when I left the theatre I was frustrated by how ultimately banal (yet well-crafted, acted and so on) the story was - I suppose I was expecting something more profound. Also, I haven't seen anything else by Desplechin (I know, right!), and I felt like maybe I was missing something - recurring themes, narrative trademarks, etc.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Gibby on December 21, 2008, 03:02:16 PM
The local art-house cinema screened Scrooged and I was first in line. Was doubled over in laughter after 45 seconds. The same place is showing The Bicycle Thieves next week, where I'll be doubled over in misery in the same time. There's literally nothing new out that I want to see until mid-January (Wrestler/Benjamin Button)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Sarah on December 21, 2008, 05:02:03 PM
Please read Benjamin Button (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/Fitzgerald/jazz/benjamin/benjamin2.htm) first and let me know how you think the movie compares.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Big Plastic Head on December 22, 2008, 08:15:56 PM
I just found out about Coraline (http://www.coraline.com/). It's directed by Henry Selick, the director of a Nightmare before Christmas. Ka-razy flash website but the film looks good.

...and it's got Hodgman in it.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Nicksy on December 22, 2008, 11:23:57 PM
I *may* be in mik, but I highly doubt it. I was riding my bike past one night in SF when they were filming a night time vigil scene and I walked along with it, but since I was wearing a T-WAYNE shirt and big 2008 new-years glasses, I probably didn't make the cut.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2008, 04:55:57 AM
I just found out about Coraline (http://www.coraline.com/). It's directed by Henry Selick, the director of a Nightmare before Christmas. Ka-razy flash website but the film looks good.

...and it's got Hodgman in it.

I watched the Coraline trailer in 3D, it was shown as a preview before U2 3D (don't judge, went along as a friend/tech-geek). Needless to say, the Coraline preview looked much cooler than Bono sitting in your lap.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: samir on December 27, 2008, 04:40:49 PM
just made it through frost/nixon - pretty okay. frank langella is great. nice flourish of 'i feel love' in there towards the end which was, at best, unexpected.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: ben on December 28, 2008, 02:38:34 AM
not sure if 'let the right one in' is gone from everywhere across the country, but i liked that movie a lot.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Fido on December 28, 2008, 09:44:06 AM
What was that movie that came out a year or two or three ago that took place entirely within an airport? I never saw it, and wondering if it sucked like I suspect it did.

Anyway, my thoughts turned to that movie since I have had so much drama and bullshit in conjunction with air travel during the last week. I won't bore anyone with it now, even though you could probably wind me up and listen to me bitch for the next day and a half if you so desired. I'm biting my tongue for now, but thinking of selling UAL short. I'll just say that I'm now thinking about airports as places where psychodramas unfold. I'm thinking it's an untapped area.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: masterofsparks on December 28, 2008, 10:24:43 AM
I'm curious about both Frost/Nixon and Milk but I also have my reservations. Milk, in particular, is a tough decision. On the plus side, I'm interested in the subject matter and I loved the Harvey Milk documentary from the 80s, but on the other side are the facts that I don't generally like biopics, I don't generally like Gus Van Sant films, and the fact that Penn (who I generally like as an actor) seems to be unnecessarily "gaying it up" (for lack of a better term) based on the clips in the previews.

The Wrestler is the one movie I'm unabashedly looking forward to.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on December 28, 2008, 10:28:06 AM
Speaking of winter movies, I watched My Winnipeg today. Nothing but ice and snow. Predictably, I loved it (but it took about 20 minutes to really kick into gear).
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Omar on December 28, 2008, 01:35:26 PM
I'm curious about both Frost/Nixon and Milk but I also have my reservations. Milk, in particular, is a tough decision. On the plus side, I'm interested in the subject matter and I loved the Harvey Milk documentary from the 80s, but on the other side are the facts that I don't generally like biopics, I don't generally like Gus Van Sant films, and the fact that Penn (who I generally like as an actor) seems to be unnecessarily "gaying it up" (for lack of a better term) based on the clips in the previews.


"Sean Penn’s performance in Milk managed to totally reverse my seething contempt for him after he directed that movie about how brave it is to cut up your credit cards and demonize your parents and the college education they paid for in order to be an amateur camper and accidentally poison yourself. His star turn in Milk was humanely dorky, affecting and egoless, and the whole movie made me blubber like a fat girl on prom night." -- J. Klausner (http://julieklausner.blogspot.com/2008/12/heroes-villains-2008.html)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Bryan on December 28, 2008, 01:57:32 PM
Really enjoyed Slumdog Millionaire. It's a lot of fun, although it's kind of minor, I think. I loved Old Joy and am looking forward to Wendy and Lucy. I  liked The Wrestler a lot. I've got a weakness for Mickey Rourke, pro wrestling and Todd Barry, so it was a natural fit. There's some schmaltzy stuff in it, but it's played pretty well. And Marisa Tomei! So persistently (and pleasingly) naked!
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: jbissell on December 30, 2008, 02:37:06 AM
Speaking of winter movies, I watched My Winnipeg today. Nothing but ice and snow. Predictably, I loved it (but it took about 20 minutes to really kick into gear).

Definitely one of my favorites from this year.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 30, 2008, 10:25:04 AM
ive got My Winnipeg/Wendy & Lucy/The Wrestler/Slumdog Millionaire waiting in the wings, plus, about a year ago i watched the harvey milk documentary from decades long gone and enjoyed it.  im assuming ill like the movie, but fear it will remind me of The Assassination of Richard Nixon. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: crumbum on December 30, 2008, 11:10:58 AM
I'm curious about both Frost/Nixon and Milk but I also have my reservations. Milk, in particular, is a tough decision. On the plus side, I'm interested in the subject matter and I loved the Harvey Milk documentary from the 80s, but on the other side are the facts that I don't generally like biopics, I don't generally like Gus Van Sant films, and the fact that Penn (who I generally like as an actor) seems to be unnecessarily "gaying it up" (for lack of a better term) based on the clips in the previews.


"Sean Penn’s performance in Milk managed to totally reverse my seething contempt for him after he directed that movie about how brave it is to cut up your credit cards and demonize your parents and the college education they paid for in order to be an amateur camper and accidentally poison yourself. His star turn in Milk was humanely dorky, affecting and egoless, and the whole movie made me blubber like a fat girl on prom night." -- J. Klausner (http://julieklausner.blogspot.com/2008/12/heroes-villains-2008.html)

My closest gay friend, who is also the most insightful movie-watcher I know, was highly irritated by Sean Penn in 'Milk'. He thought Penn approached it like an anthropologist, building the character out of a thousand stereotypical gay gestures and speech affectations with no real center. Personally I found Penn soulful and unselfconscious, in addition to his 'gaying it up', but it makes me wonder. Can anyone who's also seen the documentary comment on how close Penn came to Milk's real character in terms of the voice and mannerisms?

I thought the real performance of the film, probably of the whole year for me, was Josh Brolin as Dan White. The way he very, very quietly and subtly projected that man's coiled up rage and feelings of humiliation was incredible, and reminded me in some ways of Sean Penn in 'Casualties of War'.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Big Plastic Head on December 30, 2008, 11:17:27 AM
...about a year ago i watched the harvey milk documentary from decades long gone and enjoyed it.

Here it is on HULU if anyone is interested...
Code: [Select]
http://www.hulu.com/watch/49577/the-times-of-harvey-milk(Sorry about the code link. It tries to embed that which can't be embedded.)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: TheMush on December 30, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Thanks for the HULU link, I've been wanting to check that out and didn't realize it was on there.

Milk was excellent, I thought Brolin stole the show. And, I normally don't like him, but I thought Franco did a pretty good job too.

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 30, 2008, 03:41:13 PM
i havent seen Milk, but ive seen The Times of Harvery Milk and i already know that i think adrien brody or javier bardem (with a lot of work) would have been a much better candidate to cast as Harvey Milk.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Julie Klausner on December 30, 2008, 05:39:40 PM
I don't know if Sean Penn "gayed it up" as much as he "gayed it around."
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: masterofsparks on December 30, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
Can anyone who's also seen the documentary comment on how close Penn came to Milk's real character in terms of the voice and mannerisms?

I've seen the documentary and, based on the clips presented the Milk trailer, Penn doesn't seem to be very close to the real man in terms of voice and mannerisms (hence my original comment). Penn's voice seems a lot more like an impersonation of a stereotypically gay man than Milk's real voice.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 31, 2008, 08:22:34 AM
I saw Marley & Me.  Not so bad!
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 31, 2008, 09:40:49 AM
I saw Marley & Me.  Not so bad!

Wow, they did everything that they could think of in the previews to make it look as irritating as possible.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Denim Gremlin on December 31, 2008, 11:54:16 AM
Really enjoyed Slumdog Millionaire. It's a lot of fun, although it's kind of minor, I think. I loved Old Joy and am looking forward to Wendy and Lucy. I  liked The Wrestler a lot. I've got a weakness for Mickey Rourke, pro wrestling and Todd Barry, so it was a natural fit. There's some schmaltzy stuff in it, but it's played pretty well. And Marisa Tomei! So persistently (and pleasingly) naked!

Wendy and Lucy broke my heart.

but it's awesome.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: crumbum on December 31, 2008, 01:03:33 PM
Can anyone who's also seen the documentary comment on how close Penn came to Milk's real character in terms of the voice and mannerisms?

I've seen the documentary and, based on the clips presented the Milk trailer, Penn doesn't seem to be very close to the real man in terms of voice and mannerisms (hence my original comment). Penn's voice seems a lot more like an impersonation of a stereotypically gay man than Milk's real voice.

Just came across this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-12-29/rourke-trashes-penn/

I don't exactly trust Mickey Rourke's take on reality, but despite liking Penn's performance a lot the comment about his homophobia doesn't seem so hard to believe.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on January 01, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
Two good recently released dvds that both happen to feature Emily Mortimer; Transiberian and Five DaysTransiberian has Woody Harrelson and E. Mortimer crossing from China to Moscow on a train where they get involved in a Russian drug smuggling ring.  Five Days is made by HBO and the BBC and it's a mini-series about a family abduction.  It has an interesting Wire style of examining every level of the situation.  It is really well made.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: namethebats on January 01, 2009, 11:05:07 PM
What was that movie that came out a year or two or three ago that took place entirely within an airport? I never saw it, and wondering if it sucked like I suspect it did.

Anyway, my thoughts turned to that movie since I have had so much drama and bullshit in conjunction with air travel during the last week. I won't bore anyone with it now, even though you could probably wind me up and listen to me bitch for the next day and a half if you so desired. I'm biting my tongue for now, but thinking of selling UAL short. I'll just say that I'm now thinking about airports as places where psychodramas unfold. I'm thinking it's an untapped area.

"The Terminal." And after having a similar air travel experience this week, I completely agree with you.

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Fido on January 01, 2009, 11:25:23 PM
Now, I love dogs to a degree that's baffling to some people. But when I heard they cast Owen Wilson in that movie, I cursed it and forebade anyone who would listen to see it. Was that okay?
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: cleveland jonah on January 02, 2009, 01:12:01 PM
Return To Witch Mountain
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: crumbum on January 02, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
My Bloody Valentine 3D. I hear Debbie Googe thrusts her bass at the camera just like Dr. Tongue.

(sorry)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: buffcoat on January 04, 2009, 12:34:29 AM
Silent Night, Deadly Night 2


It's Garbage Day.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Chris L on January 04, 2009, 02:17:51 AM
My Bloody Valentine 3D. I hear Debbie Bass thrusts her googe at the camera just like Dr. Tongue.

(sorry)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: <<<<< on January 04, 2009, 02:19:54 AM
Given my affection for movies set in snowy, desolate locales, my primary disappointment with Transsiberian was that it wasn't snowy or desolate-feeling enough (?!?!).  Half way decent movie otherwise though.  Bonus points for scenes set in Irkutsk.  

I should probably see My Winnipeg.  Thanks for mentioning it.  I hadn't heard of it yet.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Sarah on January 04, 2009, 05:19:43 AM
Check out Nói albínói.  Very snowy and desolate, if I remember right.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on January 04, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Didn't care for Nói albinói. But do indeed see Frozen River, which is all kinds of desolate, snowy, ice-cold endless misery. Watched it this morning - not the best way to start off a Sunday. Appreciate the nods to the Dardennes, and Melissa Leo's performance, but... no.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: ericluxury on January 04, 2009, 09:28:28 PM
I ended up seeing a lot of movies this winter. Here they are, ranked:

Milk
The Wrestler/Let the Right One In (tie)
Gran Torino
Frost Nixon
Yes Man
Seven Pounds

(I was visiting my family in the boondocks on the last two, don't judge!)
I'd say the top 3 could have been switched, but Milk before being sad had a lot of good feeling that was a welcome change.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on January 04, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
I enjoyed Noi.  I guess I like cold snowy movies too.  How about Dr. Zhivago and the "crystaline" performances turned in on The Ice Storm.  Also, Thirty Days of Night wasn't a terrible horror movie and it's set in Alaska. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Sarah on January 05, 2009, 06:23:59 AM
Smilla's Sense of Snow has some nice snow. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on January 05, 2009, 07:05:15 AM
Frost/Nixon is well-crafted (what does that mean nowadays, anyway?) but pretty boring and bland. I guess that was to be expected with Mr. Howard at the helm. I'm amazed at how heavy-handed and clunky he is as a storyteller at times, still. It picks up when the interview gets underway, but the opening in particular is snoozeville.

Positive note: Sam Rockwell and Oliver Platt as two of Frost's collaborators. They have a couple of great scenes together, and inject some well-needed energy into the proceedings.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Emily on January 05, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
I saw Man on Wire & really loved it.

Here's a link to a current film festival in Princeton on environmental films:

Princeton Environmental Film Festival (http://www.princetonlibrary.org/peff/schedule.htm)
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 05, 2009, 10:57:50 AM
My Bloody Valentine 3D.

im all about novelty on a ridiculous level, thusly, i cannot WAIT to see this movie.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Matt on January 05, 2009, 11:35:40 AM
Seven Pounds

Is this as completely insane as I've been led to believe? If so, I might have to catch a showing.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 05, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Robbie Benson's Ice Castles
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: jbissell on January 05, 2009, 04:05:44 PM
The Movie Boy has posted his year end lists.  Among the honorable mentions for Most Underrated Film of the year?  The Hottie and the Nottie.  Also, for those of you wondering, Marley & Me is the 10th best film of '08.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: <<<<< on January 05, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
I went a few years (literally) without watching many movies but so far this winter has been THE winter for becoming reaquainted with movie-watching.  I've watched a ridiculous number of films the past two weeks.

Definitely taking note of what people are mentioning too.

I'm having trouble with Man on Wire ~ everyone says it's great and I don't doubt that at all, it just doesn't sound like it make for a great movie so I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that enough to actually rent it thusfar. 
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: mostlymeat on January 05, 2009, 07:03:54 PM
I saw Marley & Me.  Not so bad!

Really? Slowly watching a dog die is not so bad? Slow-mo eye closing ? Close up of the syringe ? Dying dog movie?

I went into this expecting another sequel to Beethoven or maybe and update of Turner and Hootch but all I got was 2 hours of a lands end catalog turned into a movie with a dying dog at the end.

I also saw some thriftown VHS: "Raquet" starring Burt Convy and "Lunchwagon" starring playboy playmates and Bob Denver's co-star in the Far Out Space Nuts. Both were lousy but had good music.

-Ajax

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: <<<<< on January 07, 2009, 03:53:03 PM
Recommedations on where to start with Ingmar Bergman?  I've never seen any of his work and feel a little daunted by scope of his body of work. 

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: masterofsparks on January 07, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Recommedations on where to start with Ingmar Bergman?  I've never seen any of his work and feel a little daunted by scope of his body of work. 



Wild Strawberries is good and fairly accessible. I've only ever seen that and The Seventh Seal, which kinda stunk.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Bryan on January 07, 2009, 04:00:43 PM
Persona is awesome! I liked it a lot better than Wild Strawberries, though that one is also good.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Kid Pain on January 07, 2009, 04:04:54 PM
am i crazy finding the dramatizations in man on wire terrible?
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Chris L on January 07, 2009, 04:11:46 PM
Recommedations on where to start with Ingmar Bergman?  I've never seen any of his work and feel a little daunted by scope of his body of work. 



Wild Strawberries is good and fairly accessible. I've only ever seen that and The Seventh Seal, which kinda stunk.

Wild Strawberries is a good starting point.  It's representative of, but warmer than, a lot of his stuff.   Seventh Seal hardly stinks but it's probably not one of my top 10 Bergmans.  It's one everyone should see though. 

Shame is an underrated (?) one I highly recommend.  It also might be his only film with a notable action sequence.

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on January 07, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
Bergman - start here:

Summer with Monika
Smiles of a Summer Night
Wild Strawberries
Fanny & Alexander
The Seventh Seal

These are not only essential, but in my opinion very accessible and entertaining.

Then you can move on to the heavier stuff:

Persona
The Silence
Scenes from a Marriage
Winter Light
Autumn Sonata
Cries and Whispers


etc.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 07, 2009, 04:41:01 PM
Fanny & Alexander is my favorite Bergman.

Re: Marley & Me - I was expecting it to be totally unwatchable, but it turned out to be a decent enough way to pass a couple of hours with the in-laws.  Believe me, I would have chosen something else, had there been something that looked even remotely better at the Jasper, Indiana's Jasper 8 Theaters.  What was I supposed to watch?  The Spirit?
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Dan B on January 07, 2009, 04:53:01 PM
The first and only Bergman film I've seen was Scenes From a Marriage. I'm pretty sure I'm not at all mature enough for that movie.  That's grown-up stuff.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: <<<<< on January 07, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
Thanks for the recommendations!  Helps a lot.  Considering how prolific and heady his work is, having a short list of key titles makes it seem less imposing.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 09, 2009, 02:29:53 PM
am i crazy finding the dramatizations in man on wire terrible?

Ummm, maybe. Any specific examples?
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Kid Pain on January 09, 2009, 02:33:29 PM
Just in general. It just seems that docs have become more sophisticated with footage, or rather using animation or after effects to get around a lack of footage that you don't see live action dramatizations in high profile documentaries anymore. The subject was fascinating, but at times it felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries.

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: jbissell on January 13, 2009, 05:03:04 PM
Saw Wendy and Lucy and The Wrestler over the weekend and liked them both a lot.  Michelle Williams/Mickey Rourke give the best performances I've seen all year.  The end of W&L is really heartbreaking.  The Wrestler has some pretty cliched sports movie moments but most of them worked for me.  I loved all the little backstage stuff, when their plotting out the matches and we follow Randy's daily routine.  The love story/daughter reconnection stuff didn't work quite as well but it's definitely worth seeing Rourke's performance.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Trotskie on January 15, 2009, 09:22:12 PM
The subject was fascinating, but at times it felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries.

Regrettably, I agree.  If ever a subject deserved better.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2009, 08:10:51 AM
This is our general movie thread now, right? Alright.

This story (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117998640.html?categoryid=13&cs=1) about the American rights to Svensk Filmindustri's vast back catalogue of films going to a company in Aspen, after SF's neglect of the matter for years, is all kinds of nuts. This quote in particular is amazing:

Quote
Isis attorney Jack Smith of Denver's Holland and Hart said: "Svensk's willingness to let this resource go is very difficult to understand. We believe that these films will be of interest to distributors and the general film audience. This is without a doubt an unprecedented event in the history of cinema, and the level of arrogance and indifference it took on the part of Svensk to get here is astonishing."

On the one hand, I feel a certain amount of schadenfreude towards SF for not being on top of this, since it's a monolith of a company that's been living off the backs of great artists for a century while still treating them poorly, and I sort of want to go Nelson-ha-ha at them for allowing this to happen; on the other hand, I hate SF for acting so indifferent towards the whole matter, and to neglect their own history in such a bizarre way.

Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: crumbum on January 17, 2009, 09:39:08 AM

Shame is an underrated (?) one I highly recommend.  It also might be his only film with a notable action sequence.



Is this available on DVD? I've heard great things but can't seem to track down a copy.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: crumbum on January 17, 2009, 10:10:45 AM
Just in general. It just seems that docs have become more sophisticated with footage, or rather using animation or after effects to get around a lack of footage that you don't see live action dramatizations in high profile documentaries anymore. The subject was fascinating, but at times it felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries.



Back in the spring I saw Man on Wire at the Hot Docs festival in Toronto, and the director was on hand. He discussed the live footage a bit and it turned out a lot of people in the audience were confused about what was restaged and what was original. Are you guys talking only about the black and white reenactments in the WTC? Because I'm fairly certain he said the color 16mm(?) footage of the group rehearsing in France and of their travels around the world (to Sydney etc) was all original.

Then again, maybe that's obvious to everyone already.

Anyhow, this discussion reminded me of two other incredible documentaries I saw at that festival: The Betrayal, about a Laotian family that was forced to move to the States in the 1970s after a CIA-supported military coup in their country. It was the most emotionally wrenching documentary I've ever seen -- the director, Ellen Kuras (who is a very respected cinematographer who has worked with Michel Gondry and Martin Scorsese a lot), followed the family for about 25 years so we see these children grow up and the parents become elderly, and you begin to understand how unpredictable global forces shape and often ruin people's lives -- but you understand it in a way that seems purely personal, not political.

The other one was called The English Doctor, and it's about a neurosurgeon who travels regularly to the Ukraine from London to treat people for free. We see him perform brain surgeries and follow him to meet with the family of a young girl who, years before, died a horrible death because of a mistake he made (the scene where they serve him dinner at their house is the kind of drama that no fictional movie could ever pull off). The score is by Nick Cave, and as depressing as it sounds the whole thing is actually uplifting because this guy makes a huge impact on the people he works with.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Chris L on January 17, 2009, 11:23:05 AM

Shame is an underrated (?) one I highly recommend.  It also might be his only film with a notable action sequence.



Is this available on DVD? I've heard great things but can't seem to track down a copy.

Yeah, MGM released it.  Netflix doesn't have it anymore for some reason but it should be easily available online. 

RE: That bizarre court decision Martin posted, I don't know what this means for the Bergman dvds in print from Criterion or others but if you've been hesistating in buying/renting any of his films in the US I'd advise moving fast. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 17, 2009, 05:28:36 PM
Heaven help me, I'm almost interested in seeing "Taken."  I like Liam Neeson and it seems like it's just going to be him chewing scenery and techno-gadgets, which seems like more fun.

Please, somebody s-s-s-s-s-s-s-top me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2009, 05:35:41 PM
I've seen Taken. It's horrible and racist and ridiculous, but almost in a Steven Seagal kind of way. Basically it's Liam Neeson going to Paris and murdering everybody in sight. He looks pretty bored throughout. Not a whole lot of gadgets though. I wouldn't pay to go see it.

(I did find the depiction of the "Easterners" quite troubling and, unfortunately, very in line with France today. (That most Frenchmen in the film are also portrayed as assholes redeems it somewhat, but not completely.))

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
Did I mention I watched Slumdog Millionaire? Didn't feel it, but I almost feel guilty about that. It's almost a critic-proof film in some weird way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on January 17, 2009, 07:33:40 PM
I'm surprised by all of the love that Slumdog has been getting.  Between the insane plot twists, pointless chase scenes, and the uninspired America-bashing I walked out at the 2/3 mark.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on January 17, 2009, 09:57:42 PM
has anyone seen Notorious yet?

Even with The Onion equating it to a vh1 movie I'm still intrigued. I'm a huge Biggie fan so I'm hoping that will make up for any stupid shit.

plus I have free AMC tickets I want to use.
Title: Re: Winter Movies
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on January 17, 2009, 10:47:07 PM
I'm fairly certain Frost/Nixon and The Interesting Case of Benjamin Button are going to meet/exceed expectations.
Hahaha.   I blew it on all counts.  Never again will I make public my anticipation of a movie I haven't seen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 18, 2009, 12:06:15 AM
I've seen Taken. It's horrible and racist and ridiculous, but almost in a Steven Seagal kind of way. Basically it's Liam Neeson going to Paris and murdering everybody in sight. He looks pretty bored throughout. Not a whole lot of gadgets though. I wouldn't pay to go see it.

(I did find the depiction of the "Easterners" quite troubling and, unfortunately, very in line with France today. (That most Frenchmen in the film are also portrayed as assholes redeems it somewhat, but not completely.))





Now I don't have to see it.  Can someone convince me not to see Defiance now?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 18, 2009, 12:20:03 AM
Just saw The Wrestler.  Touching!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 18, 2009, 12:58:59 AM
Just saw The Wrestler.  Touching!

I thought so too.  I just found out Necro Butcher was originally cast as the daughter's roommate before someone told Aronofsky he could "wrestle." 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Fido on January 18, 2009, 02:51:37 AM
has anyone seen Notorious yet?

Even with The Onion equating it to a vh1 movie I'm still intrigued. I'm a huge Biggie fan so I'm hoping that will make up for any stupid shit.

plus I have free AMC tickets I want to use.

No, but definitely not going to miss it. The Onion review is pretty much exactly the mindset I am going in with, so I hope to be at least entertained.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 18, 2009, 12:30:31 PM
has anyone seen Notorious yet?

Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, and Claude Rains?  Darn tootin'!  It was swell.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on January 18, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
has anyone seen Notorious yet?

Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, and Claude Rains?  Darn tootin'!  It was swell.

nazis, poisonings, horse racing

whats not to love?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
It looks dull, and Ed Zwick directed it. I'll pass.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 18, 2009, 04:27:11 PM
Just saw The Wrestler.  Touching!

I liked it. I'm kinda curious to see if the soundtrack will be the Springsteen song plus 14 hair metal classics. That'd be almost as strange a combination as Bettye Lavette and Jon Bon Jovi duetting on A Change Is Gonna Come.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 18, 2009, 10:18:29 PM
I just saw "Paul Blart: Mall Cop."

No toilet talk.  Slobs win.  New Jersey wins.  Many laughs.  Lines like "Don't judge" and "I set you on fire at the pancake festival."  Whether you like it or not, it is the closest thing we have to a "Best Show Movie."

Of course, there were elements to annoy, including painful Indian stereotypes and overwhelming product placement (e.g. "We have him surrounded in The Rainforest Cafe"), but hey, this was not meant to be Fassbinder or Godard.

I give "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" an "A."

P.S. That last line is also going under the thread "Best sentence you've said/typed today (Taken out of context)."

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Regular Joe on January 19, 2009, 04:38:49 AM
I give "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" an "A."

I haven't seen it, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Don't make me see this movie!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dvdv on January 19, 2009, 04:43:45 AM
has anyone seen Notorious yet?

Even with The Onion equating it to a vh1 movie I'm still intrigued. I'm a huge Biggie fan so I'm hoping that will make up for any stupid shit.

plus I have free AMC tickets I want to use.

Wait for the dvd.  Biggie is one of my favs but this is a really really boring movie.  Do read the book it's based on though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 19, 2009, 08:09:05 AM
I give "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" an "A."

I haven't seen it, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Don't make me see this movie!

According to Rotten Tomatoes, I am very much in the minority on this one.  Keep that in mind.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 19, 2009, 09:24:31 AM
I give "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" an "A."

I haven't seen it, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Don't make me see this movie!

According to Rotten Tomatoes, I am very much in the minority on this one.  Keep that in mind.


Ebert seems to like it a lot
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Paul Blart emerges as a hero, and something else: Kevin James illustrates how lighting and camera angles can affect our perception of an actor. In the early scenes, he's a fat schlub, but after he goes into action, the camera lowers subtly, the lighting changes, and suddenly he's a good-looking action hero, ready for business. He demonstrates what fat men have been secretly believed for a long time. Should Daniel Craig someday retire, I am supporting Kevin James for the next James Bond.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Regular Joe on January 19, 2009, 09:42:58 AM
I give "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" an "A."

I haven't seen it, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Don't make me see this movie!

According to Rotten Tomatoes, I am very much in the minority on this one.  Keep that in mind.


Ebert seems to like it a lot

Quote
Paul Blart emerges as a hero, and something else: Kevin James illustrates how lighting and camera angles can affect our perception of an actor. In the early scenes, he's a fat schlub, but after he goes into action, the camera lowers subtly, the lighting changes, and suddenly he's a good-looking action hero, ready for business. He demonstrates what fat men have been secretly believed for a long time. Should Daniel Craig someday retire, I am supporting Kevin James for the next James Bond.

Yet one more endorsement from someone who has made me laugh in the past. God help me.

PS: If this movie was just called Mall Cop I wouldn't feel quite the same horror, I think.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: redsplitwig on January 19, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
PS: If this movie was just called Mall Cop I wouldn't feel quite the same horror, I think.

It reminds me of Larry the Cable Guy: Health Inspector.  Doesn't the health inspecting get in the way of his job at the cable company?  He didn't seem to show up for the cable job at all in that movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 20, 2009, 10:21:40 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 20, 2009, 10:47:59 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.

Oh yeah?  What about McCabe: and Mrs. Miller?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 20, 2009, 10:49:03 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.

Oh yeah?  What about McCabe: and Mrs. Miller?

Crimes: and Misdemeanors
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 20, 2009, 10:50:43 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.

Oh yeah?  What about McCabe: and Mrs. Miller?

Crimes: and Misdemeanors

I think it was actually Judah Rosenthal: Crimes and Misdemeanors.  Good example, though!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 20, 2009, 10:51:40 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.

Oh yeah?  What about McCabe: and Mrs. Miller?

Crimes: and Misdemeanors

I think it was actually Judah Rosenthal: Crimes and Misdemeanors.  Good example, though!

I like this new direction.....Charles Foster: Citizen Kane
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 20, 2009, 11:25:51 AM
hardly any movie that follows that formula of [name] : [title] is worth any time.  in fact, i cant even think of one.

Oh yeah?  What about McCabe: and Mrs. Miller?

Crimes: and Misdemeanors

I think it was actually Judah Rosenthal: Crimes and Misdemeanors.  Good example, though!

I like this new direction.....Charles Foster: Citizen Kane

Jeff Lebowski: Dude
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 20, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Tucker: A Man and His Dream isn't too bad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on January 20, 2009, 12:14:55 PM
Babe: Pig in the City
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 20, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Babe: Pig in the City

samir, you win.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 20, 2009, 01:24:14 PM
Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace & Music
Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story
Dracula: Pages from a Virgin’s Diary
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
Paradise Lost 2: Revelations
Z Channel: A Magnificent Obsession   
Decasia: The State of Decay
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
That Man: Peter Berlin
When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts
Zidane: un portrait du 21e siècle
Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple
Wild Combination: A Portrait of Arthur Russell
WR: Mysteries of the Organism

and of course

3:10 to Yuma
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 20, 2009, 01:28:23 PM
and of course

3:10 to Yuma


can i marry you?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 20, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
Babe: Pig in the City

samir, you win.

Now I'm just embarrassed because that movie is great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on January 20, 2009, 01:48:18 PM
3:10 to Yuma

I know we're all joking around here, but just so people don't get needlessly confused, the one that came out in 2007 was 3:10 2: Yuma, the sequel to the 1957 original 3:10 to Yuma. Christian Bale apparently signed on when it was called 3:10 Too: Yuma! and was so angry when they changed it after filming wrapped, he beat up his clown family.*




*Allegedly.**
**They were definitely clowns, he just allegedly beat them up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on January 20, 2009, 02:04:59 PM
Also, Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story, and biggest film of last year Batman 2: Straight Up!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 20, 2009, 02:10:48 PM
Also, Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story, and biggest film of last year Batman 2 Dark Knight: Straight Up!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 20, 2009, 02:36:08 PM
Star Wars: A New Hope
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith

and

Star Wars: I've Had it With These Star Wars
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: pscan on January 20, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo
The Godfather Part II: Electric Boogaloo
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: PatrickChew on January 20, 2009, 04:22:53 PM
Alien:s
Terminator 2: The Legend of Curly's Gold
Arthur 2: Still Fuckin' Drunk!


Seriously though, Gremlins 2: The New Batch is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 20, 2009, 06:43:17 PM
I'm disappointed that all this colon talk originated with iAm: BaronVonTito.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 20, 2009, 06:52:56 PM
I'm disappointed that all this colon talk originated with iAm: BaronVonTito.

...?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 20, 2009, 10:25:18 PM
OK, you win.  But name me some good movies with semicolons in the title.  Actually, didn't that crowdsourced Beastie Boys concert movie have a semicolon in the title?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: <<<<< on January 20, 2009, 10:43:42 PM
I'm disappointed that all this colon talk originated with iAm: BaronVonTito.

...?

Look closer at what he's saying: iAm: BaronVonTito

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 21, 2009, 02:30:11 AM
I'm disappointed that all this colon talk originated with iAm: BaronVonTito.

...?

Look closer at what he's saying: iAm: BaronVonTito



ah, thanks, angstrom.  i wasnt offended or upset but now i feel like a dunce. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 22, 2009, 09:55:28 AM
Glad I can continue to mostly not care about the Oscars.  Pretty shocking Springsteen didn't get nominated, although that song was the worst thing in the movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on January 22, 2009, 10:08:10 AM
The only thing to get excited about in the nominations (I almost wrote "noms" in some insane attempt to seem insiderish) is Richard Jenkins getting a nomination for The Visitor. No way will he win, but the guy's overdue for some recognition.

I finally just watched Synecdoche, NY last night (loved it) and was disappointed that it didn't get a makeup, design, or writing nomination.

Best case in my view is that Slumdog Millionaire sweeps the floor with Li'l Benny Buttons.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on January 22, 2009, 10:20:12 AM
...(I almost wrote "noms" in some insane attempt to seem insiderish)...

i wouldve taken that as "charlies".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 22, 2009, 01:47:37 PM
Can we at least agree that Sally Hawkins wuz robbed?

Samir, can I get a witness?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on January 22, 2009, 02:12:09 PM
According to the official Warner Music Group website (Hungarian Version (http://www.warnermusic.hu/hirek.asp?id=372)), this is the tracklisting to the motion picture soundtrack of The Watchmen:

1. Desolation Row - My Chemical Romance
2. Unforgettable - Nat King Cole
3. The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan
4. The Sound Of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
5. Me & Bobby McGhee - Janis Joplin
6. I'm Your Boogie Man - KC & The Sunshine Band
7. You're My Thrill - Billie Holiday
8. Pruit Igoe & Prophecies - Philip Glass
9. Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen
10. All Along The Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix
11. Ride of the Valkyries - Budapest Symphony Orchestra
12. Pirate Jenny - Nina Simone (used in the end credits of the Black Freighter DVD)

Wow. I didn't expect a Wax Poetics comp or anything, but that's like the Movie Soundtrack Cliche 1992 USA Olympic Basketball Team.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on January 22, 2009, 02:19:22 PM
I'm glad you're keeping an eye on the Hungarian Warner's website, Stupornaut.

Reading that list of music, you can see just as clear as day how on-the-nose and trite the use of each of those songs is going to be. How am I supposed to maintain my unrealistic expectations for Watchmen when I read stuff like that?!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on January 22, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
I'm glad you're keeping an eye on the Hungarian Warner's website, Stupornaut.

I got it offa Douglas Wolk's Twitter! I'm not sure why he went to the Hungarian site, but I'll trust his judgment on that one.

Also I have it on good authority that "I'm Your Boogie Man" scores the scene where Rorschach kills those dogs.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on January 22, 2009, 02:35:41 PM
Can we at least agree that Sally Hawkins wuz robbed?

Samir, can I get a witness?

Testify!

She was capital-g Great in that film.

En-Ra-Hah.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 22, 2009, 02:42:22 PM
Can we at least agree that Sally Hawkins wuz robbed?

Samir, can I get a witness?

Testify!

She was capital-g Great in that film.

En-Ra-Hah.

Thirded.  She was excellent, as was Eddie Marsan.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 10, 2009, 03:56:50 PM
Yesterday I watched a film which will surely end up on my eventual 2008 top ten (I'm way behind, there's so much to see) - the Italian political satire/drama Il Divo. Really top-notch, only possibly tainted by the fact that as an outsider - even if you're well-read on the subject - you don't have a chance to catch all the subtle nuances of the plot, or fully appreciate the endless parade of characters. It's a testament to the film, however, that it still works, and beautifully so. If you can see it, do. (Plus it also reinforces the notion that Italy, as a country, is simply fucked - or at least impossible to understand.)

Also yesterday, I watched what is destined to be this year's Swedish arthouse movie to watch - Man tänker sitt / Burrowing. I'm biased, because it's directed by two close friends of mine, Henrik Hellström and Fredrik Wenzel, but it's really something. They're competing with it in Berlin right now, in the experimental Forum section. It's a bizarre, some would say pretentious, completely original mood-piece set in a dysfunctional small-town neighborhood. Closest references would probably be Malick, Korine, the Dardennes or even Bresson! - but with a voice of its own. The boss of the Vienna Film Festival said it reminded him of an Ulrich Seidl movie, "only more poetic and less calculated". Screen Daily liked it too (http://www.screendaily.com/ScreenDailyArticle.aspx?intStoryID=43239).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 10, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Coraline in 3D is absolutely beautiful to look at, really the first time I've seen 3D used in a way that isn't just for pointing things at your eyes.  Dakota Fanning and Teri Hatcher didn't even bother me too much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on February 24, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
This has been on my mind for obvious reasons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnjiGwVw6o
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on March 14, 2009, 01:59:35 AM
I just saw (Canadian director) Bruce MacDonald's new horror movie Pontypool, and it is fantastic. I wasn't a fan of his previous work but he really nailed it this time. Please see it if it comes your way.

It's set in a small town Ontario talk radio station and follows the outbreak of a zombie virus as the morning host and his producers learn of events bit by bit, mainly through call-ins... the device sounds stale, but pretty much everything about the movie is fresh and surprising. It has a great live-wire energy, it's beautifully shot in a very tight space, and has an amazing central performance by Stephen McHattie (a.k.a. Nite Owl I). I really can't say enough good things about it. Best Canadian film I've seen in a very long time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 18, 2009, 02:02:24 PM
Trailer for Armando Iannucci's In the Loop, based on his TV show In the Thick of It.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQrqMkCuHqA

I can't wait for this, even if the trailer makes it seem more slapsticky than it probably/hopefully is.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 18, 2009, 02:05:37 PM
I just saw (Canadian director) Bruce MacDonald's new horror movie Pontypool, and it is fantastic. I wasn't a fan of his previous work but he really nailed it this time. Please see it if it comes your way.

It's set in a small town Ontario talk radio station and follows the outbreak of a zombie virus as the morning host and his producers learn of events bit by bit, mainly through call-ins... the device sounds stale, but pretty much everything about the movie is fresh and surprising. It has a great live-wire energy, it's beautifully shot in a very tight space, and has an amazing central performance by Stephen McHattie (a.k.a. Nite Owl I). I really can't say enough good things about it. Best Canadian film I've seen in a very long time.


I want it.  Always looking for something new and fresh in the undead line.

I want In the Loop, too.

Maybe someday.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on March 18, 2009, 02:41:17 PM
Trailer for Armando Iannucci's In the Loop, based on his TV show In the Thick of It.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQrqMkCuHqA

I can't wait for this, even if the trailer makes it seem more slapsticky than it probably/hopefully is.

Coogan! Iannucci! Reunited! Coogan! Gandolfini! Together At Last!

I saw Gimme Shelter for the first time a few nights ago. It's become kind of a cliche to say so, but what a legitimately terrifying movie. I had a pit in my stomach throughout. Still, it was responsible for one of the funniest moments I've seen in any movie: the Stones are playing at Altamont, and things are not going well at all. They've had to stop playing a number of times to try and convince people to stop being so violent in the crowd. They start to play "Sympathy for the Devil" (I think) and just when it looks like things couldn't get any worse or look any more apocalyptic, a stray dog wanders across the stage. Mick Jagger is unfazed.

Marty Balin's denim outfit was pretty funny too. Also, the idea of getting Hell's Angels to provide security for a concert and paying them in beer. And Belli being Belli. And that some of the Angels left their motorcycles directly in front of the stage, and were apparently upset when they fell over and were being trampled upon. I don't think there has ever been so many stupid people in one movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on March 18, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
I am about to watch the movie Eraserhead. I had never heard of it till it surfaced in our library's dvd collection. Has anyone seen it? Care to comment before I take the plunge?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on March 18, 2009, 10:39:10 PM
I am about to watch the movie Eraserhead. I had never heard of it till it surfaced in our library's dvd collection. Has anyone seen it? Care to comment before I take the plunge?

It's pretty great, especially the cameo from The Monkees.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 18, 2009, 11:07:35 PM
I have seen Eraserhead 30 or 40 times. It sincerely never gets old for me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on March 19, 2009, 12:50:51 AM
I am about to watch the movie Eraserhead. I had never heard of it till it surfaced in our library's dvd collection. Has anyone seen it? Care to comment before I take the plunge?

i like eraserhead, but its not for everyone.

its not something you just sit down to watch casually if you have no idea what you're gonna watch.

then again, maybe watching fresh without any preconceived notions is a good thing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Regular Joe on March 19, 2009, 01:13:19 AM
I am about to watch the movie Eraserhead. I had never heard of it till it surfaced in our library's dvd collection. Has anyone seen it? Care to comment before I take the plunge?

i like eraserhead, but its not for everyone.

its not something you just sit down to watch casually if you have no idea what you're gonna watch.

then again, maybe watching fresh without any preconceived notions is a good thing.

What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall, watching the person who comes to Eraserhead cold.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on March 19, 2009, 01:53:05 AM
Twin Peaks turned me off from David Lynch. Although, I admit the cover of Eraserhead has always intrigued me. Maybe I should watch it.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/Eraserheadposter.jpg)
The guy sort of looks like King Buzzo.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on March 19, 2009, 11:36:39 AM
I watched about half of it last night, and plan to watch the rest this evening. Last night I started the movie planning to be entertained, with a giant Chik-fil-a brownie to munch on while I watched it. A the movie went on, however, I pretty much lost my appetite and set the brownie down. The stark setting of the film, as well as the grotesque imagry, pretty much made me aware that what I was watching was not specifically meant to be entertaining. Oh, and the continual hum of the factory machines throughout the entire movie? Unsettling.
So far, so good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 19, 2009, 09:12:36 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/Eraserheadposter.jpg)


Mike?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: A.M. Thomas on March 19, 2009, 09:54:39 PM
I saw Tokyo! last night.  It's a combination of three films with common themes that all take place in Tokyo.  Kind of like Paris, je t'aime.  The contributing directors are Michel Gondry, Leos Carax, and Bong Joon-ho.

Carax's Merde, the second film of the three, was particularly great.  It's about "an unkempt, gibberish-spewing subterranean creature of the Tokyo sewers, played by Denis Lavant [who I think is great], who rises from the underground lair where he dwells to attack unsuspecting locals in increasingly brazen and terrifying ways."  Really cool stuff.

Has anyone else seen this?

Here is the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1qzGPOXjQk
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on March 19, 2009, 11:17:29 PM
I am NOT an Eraserhead fan, but my writing partner is. We were in a pitch meeting and when he told the woman we were meeting with that his favorite movie was Eraserhead, she said "you mean with Arnold Schwarzenegger?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 20, 2009, 12:52:23 AM
I saw Tokyo! last night.  It's a combination of three films with common themes that all take place in Tokyo.  Kind of like Paris, je t'aime.  The contributing directors are Michel Gondry, Leos Carax, and Bong Joon-ho.

Carax's Merde, the second film of the three, was particularly great.  It's about "an unkempt, gibberish-spewing subterranean creature of the Tokyo sewers, played by Denis Lavant [who I think is great], who rises from the underground lair where he dwells to attack unsuspecting locals in increasingly brazen and terrifying ways."  Really cool stuff.

Has anyone else seen this?

Here is the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1qzGPOXjQk


I believe that song is either Eef Barzalay or his band Clem Snide, which immediately hooks me. My Netflix queue is a-buzz.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on March 20, 2009, 12:30:51 PM


I believe that song is either Eef Barzalay or his band Clem Snide, which immediately hooks me. My Netflix queue is a-buzz.
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Hey- I saw him in concert! :)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on March 25, 2009, 03:23:13 PM
The trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) for the Spike Jonze directed "Where the Wild Things Are" is up.

I watched the big version and I was moved. By a trailer. I will see this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 25, 2009, 03:57:10 PM
The trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/) for the Spike Jonze directed "Where the Wild Things Are" is up.

I watched the big version and I was moved. By a trailer. I will see this.


Argh! I cannot get the trailer to work for me at all on the Apple site, and only half of it on other sites! The half I saw was beautiful.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on March 25, 2009, 04:09:26 PM
I had trouble with it too. I eventually had to open one of the HD trailers in a new window, then it worked. It does look like it could be quite wonderful.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on March 25, 2009, 04:14:46 PM
I agree, I'm all goosebumpy after seeing that. And that version of 'Wake Up' just fit right in.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on March 25, 2009, 04:53:23 PM
For those having issues, the WTWTA trailer is also on YouTube but it looks like crap. I highly recommend spending the time downloading and watching one of the ones on the Apple site. It is well worth it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on March 26, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
as a long term spike jonze fan, i enjoyed this trailer.  im very excited (moreso than before) to see this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 27, 2009, 07:06:33 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4QBZfjtqs[/youtube]

Hm.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 01, 2009, 07:56:30 AM
There's currently a lot of doubt as to whether this incompetent-looking movie (http://www.afterlastseason.com/) is real.   I'd say one look at the "MRI scanner" and the ceiling fan above it would indicate... noooo.    Here's an alleged interview  (http://www.knoxroad.com/2009/03/27/knox-road-exclusive-writerdirector-mark-region-talks-about-after-last-season/) with the writer/director where he claims the budget was $5 million. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on April 01, 2009, 08:36:36 AM
There's currently a lot of doubt as to whether this incompetent-looking movie (http://www.afterlastseason.com/) is real.   I'd say one look at the "MRI scanner" and the ceiling fan above it would indicate... noooo.    Here's an alleged interview  (http://www.knoxroad.com/2009/03/27/knox-road-exclusive-writerdirector-mark-region-talks-about-after-last-season/) with the writer/director where he claims the budget was $5 million. 

I never knew they used a MRI scanner to make Myst
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 01, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
It isn't even really funny in it's incompetence, although I did guffaw at the inclusion of the guy saying, "They've got... uhhh... a printer in the basement you can use" in the trailer.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 02, 2009, 08:52:52 AM
It looks great. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 02, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
I would pay good money to see it.

But not much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 02, 2009, 02:57:39 PM
chairs that move to the movie: http://www.yourwestvalley.com/articles/action_5638___article.html/seat_minute.html
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sushi cowboy on April 03, 2009, 05:30:01 AM
chairs that move to the movie: http://www.yourwestvalley.com/articles/action_5638___article.html/seat_minute.html

I hope this doesn't catch on. The physics of the popcorn trick are going to have to be completely reevaluated.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 04, 2009, 08:12:22 PM
I know most of you swingers will probably be busy, but REAL LIFE with Albert Brooks and Charles Grodin is on TCM tonight @ 9:30.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on April 04, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
I just watched JFK for the 100th time. It is still one of the funniest movies I have ever seen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 05, 2009, 08:39:45 AM
I just watched Atonement.  A tedious movie but, my god, so very pretty.  Almost too much so.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on April 05, 2009, 06:04:34 PM
I just watched JFK for the 100th time. It is still one of the funniest movies I have ever seen.

The scene where Joe Pesci - in an Elizabethan getup - pinches Tommy Lee Jones' gold-painted nipples is seared on my brain for life.

And somehow, I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on April 05, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 10, 2009, 09:51:22 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osDN28L0x8k[/youtube]

Sam Raimi returns to his roots.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 13, 2009, 08:45:55 AM
I watched Southland Tales yesterday.  It was a very peaceful experience.  There's something about movies like that that just makes me sit back and take what I'm dealt without question.  I was a little thrown at first by all the once and present SNLers (and that one Mad TVer), but then I decided to accept their presence as part of the silliness/earnestness and just enjoy the ride.  It was a very safe ride, maybe a gentle log flume, but I wasn't in the mood for anything more raucous anyway.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on April 13, 2009, 09:44:25 AM
The part where Kevin Smith shows up in terrible old man/wizened baby make-up is like the part of the log flume where the log shoots off the flume and crashes into the Gravitron next to it, badly injuring seven or eight amusement park attendees.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 13, 2009, 11:17:05 AM
Luckily for me, I didn't recognize him and didn't remember that he was in the movie till I saw his name in the credits.  I also missed Janeane Garofalo's appearance.  Of course, my eyes were half shut through the whole thing:  I tend to watch movies like this in a kind of acquiescent daze.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 14, 2009, 10:22:01 AM
I watched the "making of Southland Tales" featurette first, and it looked like they were making a really cool movie. Then I watched the movie, and it wasn't so cool. I admired the insanity of it, but don't really think they pulled it off. There's lots of cool moments, and some funny lines.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on April 14, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
Has anyone seen/heard of this movie The Grand? Alls I know is that it's a poker movie, and has one of the greatest "What The Fuck?!" casts of all time:

David Cross
Gabe Kaplan
Dennis Farina
Richard Kind
Cheryl Hines
Woody Harrelson
Tommy 'Tiny' Lister
Jason Alexander
Ray Romano
Michael McKean
Shannon Elizabeth
WERNER HERZOG!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 14, 2009, 01:36:12 PM
Seen it. Underwhelming. Yes, even with that cast.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on April 14, 2009, 01:57:04 PM
Seen it. Underwhelming. Yes, even with that cast.

True. It is a turd.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: A.M. Thomas on April 14, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
I finally saw Let the Right One In, then looked it up online and discovered that the English subtitles were bastardized.  And now I feel betrayed.  Really good movie, though.  Not looking forward to the remake.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 15, 2009, 10:53:36 AM
Just watched it the other night myself.  It was awesome, though for the first 3 or 4 minutes it defaulted to English overdubbing, which was weird and confusing.  The idea of a remake is depressing.

How were the subtitles bastardized?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: eastgrandforks on April 15, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
The DVD subtitles are different from the US theatrical version. The DVD has a more terse, literal translation, and some of the humor and nuance is lost.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 15, 2009, 12:00:28 PM
The DVD subtitles are different from the US theatrical version. The DVD has a more terse, literal translation, and some of the humor and nuance is lost.

Some dialogue is also randomly translated as "bork bork bork," which is just offensive. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 15, 2009, 12:46:11 PM
The DVD subtitles are different from the US theatrical version. The DVD has a more terse, literal translation, and some of the humor and nuance is lost.

Some dialogue is also randomly translated as "bork bork bork," which is just offensive. 

(http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/goofed.gif)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: A.M. Thomas on April 15, 2009, 12:50:50 PM
The DVD subtitles are different from the US theatrical version. The DVD has a more terse, literal translation, and some of the humor and nuance is lost.

Yeah.  Here's an article explaining it:

http://screenrant.com/let-the-right-one-in-dvd-scandal-kofi-6533/

It's not a huge deal, but it bothers me that I didn't get the original tone of the film.  Defaulting to English dubs is such a blatant sign of bad DVD production too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on April 15, 2009, 06:41:06 PM
The DVD subtitles are different from the US theatrical version. The DVD has a more terse, literal translation, and some of the humor and nuance is lost.

Some dialogue is also randomly translated as "bork bork bork," which is just offensive. 

A few months ago I rented a bootleg of 'Rec' before it was released in North America (and just before the remake came out); it turned out someone with second-rate English skills had subtitled it, possibly on their home computer. The picture quality was also poor and at a number of critical points near the end the subs read things like 'you can not see it, the monster is coming. it was very scary at the theater.'
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 21, 2009, 04:17:18 PM
Whoa! 8 full-length Herzog films streaming for free on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=starzmedia&view=videos&query=Herzog)!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on April 21, 2009, 04:44:04 PM
Whoa! 8 full-length Herzog films streaming for free on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=starzmedia&view=videos&query=Herzog)!


That's no way to watch Aguirre or Fitzcarraldo.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 21, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
It's high-res, at least by youtube standards.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on April 21, 2009, 07:38:29 PM
They also have the chicken scene from Stroszek.  Fascinating.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on April 21, 2009, 08:19:04 PM
I watched Salò a couple of days ago.

There is no way in hell that Stroszek can be any more emotion-destroying than this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on April 22, 2009, 12:21:10 PM
Have any British FOT seen In the Loop yet? I'm excited.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/In_the_Loop.jpg)

Hope Shepherd Fairey doesn't sue.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 22, 2009, 12:43:42 PM
I cannot wait for that fucking film. I've been revisiting all the old Thick of It episodes lately. After the fantastic reviews it got last week in Britain I'm even more excited.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 22, 2009, 12:46:59 PM
I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5jr33wiVZQ
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 22, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
I'm also delighted to see the return of Malcolm's insane assistant Jamie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa3eoMnMC80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBW7dCvmMxI
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on April 22, 2009, 01:23:50 PM
"Shut it, Love Actually" is my new put-down-of-choice.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 22, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
I attempted Southland Tales last night.  I really, really wanted to like it, but that shit is just unwatchable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on April 22, 2009, 11:31:32 PM
People seem to hate the movie "The Ten" (David Wain, Paul Rudd, Jon Hamm, lots of people) but I just watched it on Hulu and laughed a lot -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0811106/
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gregory on April 22, 2009, 11:49:53 PM
I thought "the Ten" was great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Dan B on April 23, 2009, 02:56:03 AM
Who hates The Ten? I loved it when I saw it in theaters and still loved it when I watched it at home. I'll see anything David Wain and those guys are involved in...except maybe Little Fockers which Wain is rumored to be directing. He's too good for that.   The new series "Michael and Michael Have Issues" looks great and I can finally watch "The State" when it comes out on DVD this summer!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on April 23, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
I think I liked maybe 2 of the stories, but it was a pretty big disappointment, especially the Paul Rudd stuff.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on April 23, 2009, 02:40:58 PM
I checked out The Battle of Algiers, The Wages of Fear, and Spellbound from my local library. I haven't seen any of these movies before. Are they good choices?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 23, 2009, 02:48:47 PM
Spellbound is so-so, as Hitchcock goes. The other two are really awesome. Good picks! The Battle of Algiers was the one that everyone was talking about at the start of the Iraq war, for reasons that will be obvious when you watch it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 23, 2009, 02:53:57 PM
Spellbound is so-so, as Hitchcock goes. The other two are really awesome. Good picks! The Battle of Algiers was the one that everyone was talking about at the start of the Iraq war, for reasons that will be obvious when you watch it.

The Pentagon even had an official private screening of Algiers during the run-up to the war, although typically it looks like nobody paid attention.  Agreed you're in for a kickass weekend with that and Wages of Fear. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 23, 2009, 03:31:04 PM
The Battle of Algiers is wonderful.  A lot of the actors in it were actual participants in said battle, performing under assumed names.  One of the greatest things I ever got to do was edit the selected writings of a guy who was involved in the production.  Unfortunately, he was already dead, but I got to work with people who knew him and with his widow.  It was during that project that I learned that Noam Chomsky is a pill to those who dare to edit him (he wrote the foreword and considered even his commas to be at least semisacred).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on April 23, 2009, 03:34:53 PM
Renting movies at the libary is awesome. Thanks to them, I don't think I've bought a DVD in about six months.

I checked these out a few days ago:

SAFE
101 REYKJAVIK
THE BIG KNIFE
THE BLACK BELLY OF THE TARANTULA
BERLIN ALEXANDERPLATZ

I've rented BERLIN ALEXANDERPLATZ before, but I had to stop watching after about five episodes to preserve my sanity when I started having dreams of being Franz Biberkopf. That was a rough week.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 23, 2009, 03:49:06 PM
Safe is pretty good, Julianne Moore is great in it. I'm so-so on 101 Reykjavik, but at least it's harmless. The Big Knife (if it's the Aldrich one) could've been much better than it actually is, in my opinion. Aldrich should've gone all-out camp - it feels too restrained now (considering the juicy source material). Palance is not well cast.

The Battle of Algiers is fantastic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 23, 2009, 03:49:49 PM
Watched Paranoid Park today, finally. Liked it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 23, 2009, 03:57:47 PM
If you're like me (and why wouldn't you be), you need lists in your life, especially movie lists. I often use the MCN Scoreboard (http://www.moviecitynews.com/awards/2009/top_ten/00scoreboard.htm) to keep track of the best rated films of any given year (RottenTomatoes is also good for this, but MCN is more to my liking), and try to see all the top rated ones. The MCN Scoreboard is not very printer-friendly, so I cut & pasted the 2008 list into a Word document, for easy reference. Here it is (http://www.mediafire.com/?z1zdzwjm2my).

Now print it out and get to work. You're welcome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on April 23, 2009, 03:59:52 PM
God help me, I think I'm going to rent Q: The Winged Serpent.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 23, 2009, 04:03:15 PM
God help me, I think I'm going to rent Q: The Winged Serpent.

Do it! Classic Larry Cohen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on April 23, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
It was during that project that I learned that Noam Chomsky is a pill to those who dare to edit him (he wrote the foreword and considered even his commas to be at least semisacred).

Now my image of Chomsky is totally blown.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on April 23, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
Oh, now I've upset you.  I'd better not start talking about Santa Claus, I guess.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on April 23, 2009, 05:55:54 PM
Oh, now I've upset you.  I'd better not start talking about Santa Claus, I guess.


Oh, Sarah, I was quietly hoping to revisit the 20-post Chomsky sucks-Chomsky rules debacle.  That was so enjoyable for everybody that I wanted to bring it back into their lives.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 23, 2009, 08:36:04 PM
Oh, now I've upset you.  I'd better not start talking about Santa Claus, I guess.


Oh, Sarah, I was quietly hoping to revisit the 20-post Chomsky sucks-Chomsky rules debacle.  That was so enjoyable for everybody that I wanted to bring it back into their lives.

I feel certain that whether you think Chomsky sucks OR rules, we can all agree that it's simply shocking that a dude like him would be uptight about the editing of his writing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 23, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
Oh, now I've upset you.  I'd better not start talking about Santa Claus, I guess.


Oh, Sarah, I was quietly hoping to revisit the 20-post Chomsky sucks-Chomsky rules debacle.  That was so enjoyable for everybody that I wanted to bring it back into their lives.

I feel certain that whether you think Chomsky sucks OR rules, we can all agree that it's simply shocking that a dude like him would be uptight about the editing of his writing.

It's definitely not shocking, but it is annoying, considering he is such a strong opponent of prescriptive linguistics.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on April 24, 2009, 01:40:29 AM
Safe is pretty good, Julianne Moore is great in it.
The Battle of Algiers is fantastic.

Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on April 24, 2009, 08:39:09 AM
Quote
Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.

Julianne Moore bugs me in any movie; I think it is because she has a half-formed nose. Has anyone else noticed her doughy nose? Not that she can help it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 24, 2009, 11:17:18 AM
I just watched Synecdoche, NY last night, and it was the best thing I'd seen in a long, long time.  It felt sort of autobiographical.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 24, 2009, 11:41:44 AM
Yes, I loved Synecdoche, NY, too. A masterpiece, maybe. One of the things that I love the most about Kaufman is how he manages to be really funny, even in the context of a very serious film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on April 24, 2009, 11:44:55 AM
Quote
Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.

Julianne Moore bugs me in any movie; I think it is because she has a half-formed nose. Has anyone else noticed her doughy nose? Not that she can help it.

I remember her being in "Short Cuts," and there was something noticeable.  I don't think it was her nose, but I can't remember what it was.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 24, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Quote
Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.

Julianne Moore bugs me in any movie; I think it is because she has a half-formed nose. Has anyone else noticed her doughy nose? Not that she can help it.

I remember her being in "Short Cuts," and there was something noticeable.  I don't think it was her nose, but I can't remember what it was.

I think it was her red... painting.

 ;)

No, it was definitely her vagina. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on April 24, 2009, 12:26:48 PM
Quote
Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.

Julianne Moore bugs me in any movie; I think it is because she has a half-formed nose. Has anyone else noticed her doughy nose? Not that she can help it.

I remember her being in "Short Cuts," and there was something noticeable.  I don't think it was her nose, but I can't remember what it was.

I think it was her red... painting.

 ;)

No, it was definitely her vagina. 

As always, "Chris L, Master of Subtlety."



Seriously, though, that was a strange scene to watch.  She was so angry and yelling, and nude from the waist down at the same time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on April 24, 2009, 01:34:28 PM
Yes, I loved Synecdoche, NY, too. A masterpiece, maybe. One of the things that I love the most about Kaufman is how he manages to be really funny, even in the context of a very serious film.

The scenes with Caden and his daughter were excellent, and devastating.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on April 24, 2009, 07:59:47 PM
Quote
Agree with all the Algiers praise; I was totally blown away.

Safe, especially Moore, bugged the shit out of me.  Can't for the life of me figure out why so many like it.

Julianne Moore bugs me in any movie; I think it is because she has a half-formed nose. Has anyone else noticed her doughy nose? Not that she can help it.

I remember her being in "Short Cuts," and there was something noticeable.  I don't think it was her nose, but I can't remember what it was.

I think it was her red... painting.

 ;)

No, it was definitely her vagina. 

As always, "Chris L, Master of Subtlety."


That, and Huey Lewis peeing have been burned into my retinas from that film. Thanks for reminding me everyone.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 24, 2009, 08:51:15 PM

That, and Huey Lewis peeing have been burned into my retinas from that film. Thanks for reminding me everyone.

Prosthetic, I think. It was before the dick craze in current U.S. films.

Maybe it started the craze?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on April 25, 2009, 10:01:51 AM
I watched The Wages of Fear last night and while it was an excellent film overall, I found the ending to be slightly disappointing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on April 25, 2009, 10:54:09 AM
I admire the no-nonsense naming policy for the film "Fighting". I hope it takes off. I'd like to see titles like "Ruggedly Handsome Men Yelling into Cell Phones," and "CGI Effects."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 25, 2009, 11:05:25 AM

That, and Huey Lewis peeing have been burned into my retinas from that film. Thanks for reminding me everyone.

Prosthetic, I think. It was before the dick craze in current U.S. films.

Maybe it started the craze?

"No results found for 'Huey Lewis dick craze.'"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on April 26, 2009, 12:37:29 PM
God help me, I think I'm going to rent Q: The Winged Serpent.

Do it! Classic Larry Cohen.

Yes, Michael Moriarty's finest moment, in a career full of (2 of) them!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on April 26, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Yes, Michael Moriarty's finest moment, in a career full of (2 of) them!

One of those two being "Bang the Drum Slowly," right?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 02, 2009, 07:08:50 AM
I just watched Right America, Feeling Wronged and Body of War.  The first was disappointing:  I had heard that it was intended to be a somewhat objective doc about McCain supporters/Obama haters, but instead it was just an hourlong partisan piece of propaganda.  Propaganda from my side of the fence, but propaganda nevertheless. 

Body of War is also propaganda, of course, but I much preferred it.  For me, it was grueling less because of its depiction of the paraplegic vet who's its subject than because featured throughout are snippets of speeches in Congress arguing in favor of giving Bush permission to invade Iraq (and a few opposing him--I had forgotten what a hero Byrd was during that whole sorry business) and a running tally of all the "yes" votes.  Especially painful was being reminded of all the lies that were told and of how so many senators and representatives spouted the party line verbatim.  It woke up the rage and horror I felt at the time.  Made for a very uneasy sleep last night, I tell you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 02, 2009, 03:02:33 PM
Saw Adventureland last night and enjoyed myself thoroughly.  I also thought it was weird that there was a lesser-known VU song in an old-fashioned jukebox in a Pittsburgh dive bar, but that's a minor quibble.

What is weird to me, though, is that less than 20 years ago it would have been a firmly mainstream movie - young love, comic bits/obstacles, and so on.  But now it's indie, or art-house, or whatever.  What the fuck is happening to our culture?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 02, 2009, 03:07:07 PM
Saw Adventureland last night and enjoyed myself thoroughly.  I also thought it was weird that there was a lesser-known VU song in an old-fashioned jukebox in a Pittsburgh dive bar, but that's a minor quibble.

What is weird to me, though, is that less than 20 years ago that would have been a firmly mainstream movie - young love, comic bits and obstacles, and so on.  But now it's indie, or art-house, or whatever.  What the fuck is happening to our culture?

It's completely Becked up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on May 02, 2009, 03:08:50 PM
When Adventureland 2 comes out, I'm sure people will be more receptive to it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 02, 2009, 04:24:15 PM
That isn't my complaint, really, I'm sure plenty of people are seeing it.  I also don't really know how wide the release is.  Also I don't really care about either. 

It's more like, this pretty mainstream movie was made by Miramax (who I know are not really indie, but whatever) and playing at BAM (which I know isn't really art-house, but whatever).  I think what bugs me is, if this is what's passing as independent film these days, where can one go for the truly weird shit?  WFMU, I guess.  Or the internet.  I guess my complaint is about the general mediocrity of Anglophone culture, but I suppose that's always been the case.  Except there's something I miss about the mainstream culture of the 1980s being so far removed from everything I liked. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on May 02, 2009, 04:33:30 PM
What VU song?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on May 02, 2009, 04:53:12 PM
Coney Island Steeplechase.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on May 02, 2009, 09:05:36 PM
I saw Red Beard today. Who would have guessed that what may be the greatest Kurosawa fight scene would be in a movie about a doctors in a clinic?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 03, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
And also, RG, I just got your joke about Adventureland 2.  Except it really wouldn't surprise me if they actually did this, but with none of the same people involved.  The amusement park would be in, like New Mexico this time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 17, 2009, 09:29:32 PM
If there isn't a special Mike Show devoted to Lars Von Trier's new film Antichrist I'll be gravely disappointed.  From Ebert's spoiler-y, hyperbolic report (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/05/for_even_now_already_is_it_in.html) from Cannes:

Quote
Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on May 17, 2009, 09:38:45 PM
Well, I guess I could have spent a Sunday afternoon watching worse things.

(http://infodome.sdsu.edu/about/depts/spcollections/exhibits/1202/images/BeachParty.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on May 18, 2009, 09:52:06 AM
If there isn't a special Mike Show devoted to Lars Von Trier's new film Antichrist I'll be gravely disappointed.  From Ebert's spoiler-y, hyperbolic report (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/05/for_even_now_already_is_it_in.html) from Cannes:

Quote
Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.

I know I should probably be more excited about this film, but I just can't muster up any energy whatsoever - to be outraged, excited, whatever. OK, one thing: perhaps bored. And the reactions are so predictable - von Trier really knows what buttons to push, and Cannes is always craving a scandal.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on May 18, 2009, 10:32:33 AM
Well, I guess I could have spent a Sunday afternoon watching worse things.

(http://infodome.sdsu.edu/about/depts/spcollections/exhibits/1202/images/BeachParty.jpg)
Now you need to see this!

(http://criminalbrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beach-blanket-bingo.jpg)

I actually own this poster.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on May 23, 2009, 01:11:57 AM
Just saw Terminator Salvation.  Boy was that a waste of time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 24, 2009, 10:08:23 PM
I hope that you will forgive me the spaminess of this post, lifted from my blog. I am interested in your opinions as to whether this is in the least bit interesting, or if it's just going to feed my OCD tapeworm. It represents between 350-400 hours of work on my part.

gaughin.edublogs.org

Project update: A-K

To recap: this ongoing project is an attempt to determine which actors who are "currently working" have amassed the most impressive selected filmographies. The basic technique is explained in a post from nearly three years ago. You can find it if you search the blog for the term "Robert Forster".


At least one disclaimer is necesary. I am going through actors alphabetically, and in almost 4 years, I have only completed letters A-K. Actors were included for assessment if a film in which they appeared had been released within three years of the date I completed their assessment. Because of that, some actors who have actually passed are included, and will be on the list until I cycle back around to them. I have limited time to work on this project, and so I am just shrugging off this glitch in the system. So yes, I fully understand that Anne Bancroft, may her soul rest in peace, is certainly not a current actor, but I will stick to my original assessment until I roll back around to her.


I believe that the updating of established assessments will go faster than the first one, and hope to eventually be able to update on a two year cycle, where it seems it is going to take at least 6 years for me to complete these initial assessments.


Here's the current 100 "most accomplished" working movie actors, WHOSE LAST NAME STARTS WITH A LETTER BETWEEN A AND K.


1) Robert DeNiro 2) Woody Allen 3) Dustin Hoffman 4) Clint Eastwood 5) Catherine Deneuve

6) Gene Hackman 7) Robert Duvall 8) Harrison Ford 9) Gerard Depardieu 10) Harvey Keitel

11) Julie Christie 12) Sean Connery 13) Johnny Depp 14) Richard Dreyfuss 15) Nicolas Cage

16) Jeff Bridges 17) John Cusack 18) Tom Hanks 19) Anthony Hopkins 20) Mel Gibson

21) Diane Keaton 22) Albert Finney 23) William Hurt 24) George Clooney 25) Bruno Ganz

26) Michael Caine 27) Michael Douglas 28) Kevin Costner 29) Ben Kingsley 30) Tom Cruise

31) Isabelle Huppert 32) Nicole Kidman 33) Mia Farrow 34) Jane Fonda 35) Daniel Auteuil

36) Ellen Burstyn 37) Ralph Fiennes 38) Bob Hoskins 39) Tommy Lee Jones 40) Judy Davis

41) Dennis Hopper 42) Kevin Kline 43) Alan Bates 44) Emmanuelle Beart 45) Maggie Cheung

46) Matt Dillon 47) Richard Gere 48) Jeremy Irons 49) Faye Dunaway 50) Juliette Binoche

51) Matthew Broderick 52) Isabelle Adjani 53) Glenn Close 54) Anjelica Huston 55) Russell Crowe

56) John Hurt 57) Leonardo DiCaprio 58) Leslie Caron 59) Holly Hunter 60) Albert Brooks

61) Ethan Hawke 62) Peter Fonda 63) Jodie Foster 64) Samuel L Jackson 65) Jim Carrey

66) Jackie Chan 67) Ian Holm 68) Sandrine Bonnaire 69) Willem Dafoe 70) Antonio Banderas

71) Catherine Keener 72) Morgan Freeman 73) Gabriel Byrne 74) James Caan 75) Keith Carradine

76) Helena Bonham Carter 77) Val Kilmer 78) Julie Andrews 79) James Garner 80) Lauren Bacall

81) Kevin Bacon 82) Elliott Gould 83) Bruce Dern 84) Colin Firth 85) Anne Bancroft

86) Ed Harris 87) Michael Keaton 88) Cameron DIaz 89) Michel Bouquet 90) Kirsten Dunst

91) Hugh Grant 92) Alan Arkin 93) Jacqueline Bissett 94) Woody Harrelson 95) Anouk Aimee

96) John Goodman 97) Steve Buscemi 98) Giancarlo Giannini 99) Matt Damon 100) Angela Bassett
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Forrest on May 24, 2009, 10:20:22 PM
I had forgotten what a hero Byrd was 

Really? Does his opposition to authorize the war really make him a hero? Who amongst us could have the past that he had and still have a second life as as someone speaking truth to power?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on May 24, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
I had forgotten what a hero Byrd was 

Really? Does his opposition to authorize the war really make him a hero? Who amongst us could have the past that he had and still have a second life as as someone speaking truth to power?

Agreed, Forrest. There are a few other Congresspeople, who opposed the war, that are far more deserving of our respect and adulation. I applaud Senator Byrd for being repentant for his past actions. It's just a bit difficult for me to hold a former Klansman in high esteem.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 25, 2009, 07:39:12 AM
Oh, give me a break.  He was a hero at that moment; I'm not saying that it washed his slate clean.  Yet he spoke lengthily and eloquently, and because of his dark past (and decidedly gray present) his words probably carried more weight with people of a similar bent.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on May 25, 2009, 12:20:18 PM

It's just a bit difficult for me to hold a former Klansman in high esteem.

Yeah, no one likes a quitter.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on May 25, 2009, 12:39:16 PM
Watched North by Northwest for the first time this weekend, and I'm a little embarassed to admit how bored I was. Not with the entire thing, but definitely about half of it. I did "appreciate" a lot of it, though. Also, I'm not too bright.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on May 25, 2009, 05:00:33 PM

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 It's just a bit difficult for me to hold a former Klansman in high esteem.
[/quote]

To hear him tell it, he wouldn't have been able to get into politics if he hadn't joined the Klan.  It was the ultimate Good Old Boy Network.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on May 27, 2009, 01:16:57 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly when Byrd got into politics (too lazy to look it up, but assuming it's post-WW2), but there was a time within living memory when the majority of congress, in both parties, North and South, were Klansmen.  In some places they were pretty much a terrorist organization (or, depending on your view of American history, a militia), but in others they were more like the Kiwanis Club.

I'm not defending it -- it's a pretty revolting part of American history -- but forgetting it doesn't serve much of a purpose.

I recently picked up Eric Foner's book on Reconstruction -- for some stupid reason I got the 900-page academic version instead of the 200-page popular version, and I had a choice -- and I can't wait to read it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on May 28, 2009, 12:33:42 PM
Robert Downey Jr.'s portrayal of Sherlock Holmes looks exactly as I imagined the character!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sushi cowboy on May 28, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
Not sure if I'm looking forward to Apatow's "Funny People" but I thought this viral marketing was kind of cool.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/28/funny-people-viral-marketing-you-teach/
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on May 29, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
In honor of the recent Cannes Film Festival, The Auteurs website has six films from past festivals you can watch for free:

L'AVVENTURA
CLEO FROM 5 TO 7
BLACK ORPHEUS
CRIA CUERVOS
THE CRANES ARE FLYING
HARAKIRI

If you have to register, it's worth it!

Also, tonight (or early tomorrow) on TCM, they're showing THE HARDER THEY COME and MACHINE GUN MCCAIN back-to-back!

And UP and DRAG ME TO HELL are in theaters now!

What a wonderful movie world we live in!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on May 30, 2009, 07:39:48 AM
Woohoo! Only works if you're in America!! Yaaaay!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on May 30, 2009, 12:41:08 PM
If there isn't a special Mike Show devoted to Lars Von Trier's new film Antichrist I'll be gravely disappointed.  From Ebert's spoiler-y, hyperbolic report (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/05/for_even_now_already_is_it_in.html) from Cannes:

Quote
Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.

I know I should probably be more excited about this film, but I just can't muster up any energy whatsoever - to be outraged, excited, whatever. OK, one thing: perhaps bored. And the reactions are so predictable - von Trier really knows what buttons to push, and Cannes is always craving a scandal.
Just watched this film. Wish I could un-watch it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on May 30, 2009, 12:47:31 PM
Woohoo! Only works if you're in America!! Yaaaay!

I had no idea things were so terrible in Sweden. Oh well. USA! USA! USA! USA!

I saw DRAG ME TO HELL last night and had a BLAST. Everyone should go see it. The best American horror film in at least a decade? I think so!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on May 30, 2009, 01:39:15 PM
Rented Rogue last week -- it's an Australian killer croc movie just out on DVD. I think it's the best monster movie since The Host. It was directed by the guy who made Wolf Creek (which I haven't seen), and it's exceedingly well-constructed, stripped down and almost-sorta-believable. Other than solid scares, the main things I look for in a movie of this type are a bit of patient attention to character development and the avoidance of horror movie cliches.  Rogue does quite nicely on both counts.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on June 03, 2009, 01:29:49 PM
There's currently a lot of doubt as to whether this incompetent-looking movie (http://www.afterlastseason.com/) is real.   I'd say one look at the "MRI scanner" and the ceiling fan above it would indicate... noooo.    Here's an alleged interview  (http://www.knoxroad.com/2009/03/27/knox-road-exclusive-writerdirector-mark-region-talks-about-after-last-season/) with the writer/director where he claims the budget was $5 million. 

A big update on After Last Season (http://www.afterlastseason.com/)! It's playing in real cinemas starting this Friday.

Austin TX, Rochester NY, North Aurora IL, and Lancaster CA FOT, please check it out and report back! I don't remember the last movie that seemed this mysterious.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: bakersfieldchimp on June 04, 2009, 09:47:32 AM
I saw DRAG ME TO HELL last night and had a BLAST. Everyone should go see it. The best American horror film in at least a decade? I think so!

I just came here to post this-- so good. It's not like there are a lot of contenders for that title, but still... it's classic Raimi.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on June 04, 2009, 01:12:03 PM
I saw Up yesterday. It was, like all Pixar movies*, fantastic. It had a real sweetness, said something about life, had some laughs, cool action set pieces and looked gorgeous.

I saw it in 3D. While I still feel like the latest round of 3D-mania is just as much of a gimmick as it was in the '50's and '80s, if all the 3D movies use it so subtly like Up did, I would be more tolerant of the gimmick. In Up, they just used the 3D to really bring out depths. There weren't any, "Oh my god, it's coming right at us!" moments that I can remember.

I saw a trailer (in 3D!) for Zach Galifianakis's G-Force before the movie, too.

*I have yet to see Finding Nemo and I'm very apathetic towards seeing Cars
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on June 04, 2009, 03:43:06 PM
David Carradine was just found dead.  :-\ That's too bad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on June 04, 2009, 03:44:15 PM
David Carradine was just found dead.  :-\ That's too bad.

The worst part is all the dumb jokes being made re: the circumstances.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 06, 2009, 12:21:01 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on June 06, 2009, 12:25:01 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Yeah, that's a great one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 06, 2009, 01:48:09 PM
There's currently a lot of doubt as to whether this incompetent-looking movie (http://www.afterlastseason.com/) is real.   I'd say one look at the "MRI scanner" and the ceiling fan above it would indicate... noooo.    Here's an alleged interview  (http://www.knoxroad.com/2009/03/27/knox-road-exclusive-writerdirector-mark-region-talks-about-after-last-season/) with the writer/director where he claims the budget was $5 million.  

A big update on After Last Season (http://www.afterlastseason.com/)! It's playing in real cinemas starting this Friday.

Austin TX, Rochester NY, North Aurora IL, and Lancaster CA FOT, please check it out and report back! I don't remember the last movie that seemed this mysterious.

Here's a review (http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/film-review-after-last-season). It sounds for all the world like someone trying to engender a Tommy Wiseau-esque cult following.   I too have Wiseau-esque ambitions, but they're pretty much limited to putting my feet up on things all the time.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on June 07, 2009, 07:40:44 AM
Thanks, Chris L. I can't decide if I'm disappointed that the trailer wasn't a canny teaser for something hilarious and mind-blowing, or if I'm pleased that the trailer is an accurate peek at the complete film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 08, 2009, 04:04:41 PM
I recently saw THE BROWNING VERSION (1951), which Criterion released a few years ago and features a pretty much flawless performance by Michael Redgrave as a stern but regretful teacher.  The film itself is about as elegantly handled and beautifully realized as could be, except (SPOILER, highlight to read -- sorry, I can't remember if this board has spoiler tags anywhere):

It's pretty hard to swallow that the student body would burst into sustained applause or even be all that sympathetic at the end of Redgrave's remorseful speech, especially since he's basically admitting he screwed up their education.

THE HANGOVER was funny too.   

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 08, 2009, 04:10:47 PM
Yeah, I really dig THE BROWNING VERSION.

Watched THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN today. Never seen it before! SPOILER ALERT: not that magnificent.

I also watched John Sayles's much more magnificent LIANNA today.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: erika on June 08, 2009, 05:44:14 PM


THE HANGOVER was funny too.   



God, was it ever! So stupid and fun and FULL of Zach. I need to see it again... I keep thinking of it today and laughing out loud inappropriately. Like I said, it was full of low-brow humor but I laughed the whole time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on June 08, 2009, 05:53:00 PM


THE HANGOVER was funny too.   



God, was it ever! So stupid and fun and FULL of Zach. I need to see it again... I keep thinking of it today and laughing out loud inappropriately. Like I said, it was full of low-brow humor but I laughed the whole time.

The Hangover is kind of like Very Bad Things if the latter film was funny, had a likable cast/characters, and was not ineptly made by a Dune-crazed cretin*!  Todd Phillips is one of our finest auteurs, and he's back after the School for Scoundrels slip-up.

*Peter Berg!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 08, 2009, 10:08:34 PM
Watched THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN today. Never seen it before! SPOILER ALERT: not that magnificent.

***FILMADUMMY CONFESSION (TEXT HIDDEN TO PREVENT FURTHER SHAME):***

I prefer The Magnificent Seven to The Seven Samurai
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on June 08, 2009, 10:39:04 PM
I'd actually consider Seven Samurai mid-tier Kurosawa. My favorite is Red Beard.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 08, 2009, 11:38:57 PM
Red Bears is on TCM this week, with no commercial interruption.  Seven Samurai, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 09, 2009, 04:32:41 AM
Watched THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN today. Never seen it before! SPOILER ALERT: not that magnificent.

***FILMADUMMY CONFESSION (TEXT HIDDEN TO PREVENT FURTHER SHAME):***

I prefer The Magnificent Seven to The Seven Samurai

Well, to be fair, it's only 2 hrs long.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 09, 2009, 04:34:13 AM
Signs that you're getting too old for this shit:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8174/danny467200418a6388227.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=danny467200418a6388227.jpg)

You're shooting a low-budget drama in Malmö, Sweden.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 09, 2009, 06:35:53 AM
Red Bears is on TCM this week, with no commercial interruption. 

Is that the Bad New Bears sequel set in Communist Russia? The one where Walter Matthau wakes up from an epic bender in the middle of the USSR with no knowledge of how he got there and promptly encounters a group of lovable urchins who just want to play little-league baseball but can't for fear of retribution from the KGB? SPOILER ALERT! By the movie's end, they two have helped each other - Matthau has helped the kids organize a team and they've pointed him to the only bar in Moscow where you can get Budweiser and pickled pigs' feet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 10, 2009, 06:52:30 PM
Rewatched "Road To Wellville" recently. I think that is a grossly underrated comedy. 

Or perhaps it is a mediocre comedy about a naturally hilarious true topic?  John Harvey Kellogg was a loon.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on June 10, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
Rewatched "Road To Wellville" recently. I think that is a grossly underrated comedy. 

Or perhaps it is a mediocre comedy about a naturally hilarious true topic?  John Harvey Kellogg was a loon.

That's good to hear. I'd always avoided it, but I enjoyed the book - mostly for the naturally hilarious subject matter (I always wanted to like T.C. Boyle more than I actually liked him) - and have always been curious about it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 11, 2009, 01:52:57 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 11, 2009, 03:40:28 AM
Red Bears is on TCM this week, with no commercial interruption. 

Is that the Bad New Bears sequel set in Communist Russia? The one where Walter Matthau wakes up from an epic bender in the middle of the USSR with no knowledge of how he got there and promptly encounters a group of lovable urchins who just want to play little-league baseball but can't for fear of retribution from the KGB? SPOILER ALERT! By the movie's end, they two have helped each other - Matthau has helped the kids organize a team and they've pointed him to the only bar in Moscow where you can get Budweiser and pickled pigs' feet.

I left the typo to see if any FOT would pick it up and run with it. I needn't had expended any energy worrying that wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 11, 2009, 09:03:03 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?

I think it was called "Hugman's Insecurity Blues."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 11, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
Rewatched "Road To Wellville" recently. I think that is a grossly underrated comedy. 

Or perhaps it is a mediocre comedy about a naturally hilarious true topic?  John Harvey Kellogg was a loon.

That's good to hear. I'd always avoided it, but I enjoyed the book - mostly for the naturally hilarious subject matter (I always wanted to like T.C. Boyle more than I actually liked him) - and have always been curious about it.

Bryan,

I have not read T.C. Boyle's book. If I had, I may have had a very different opinion of the film. In other words, take my review with a major grain of salt.

Also take into account that I thoroughly enjoyed "Paul Blart: Mall Cop."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 11, 2009, 07:21:43 PM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?

I think it was called "Hugman's Insecurity Blues."

aw, i was just funnin', Jon. It really has been eating at me trying to remember what song they used in that part, though. Do you remember? When he was puttin' on all nem hats?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 11, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?

I think it was called "Hugman's Insecurity Blues."

aw, i was just funnin', Jon. It really has been eating at me trying to remember what song they used in that part, though. Do you remember? When he was puttin' on all nem hats?

Just funnin' back.  I can't recall what song it was and i cannot find the clip on YouTube (tried searching "townes van zandt hats" and "Be here to love me end credits").
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on June 11, 2009, 10:48:27 PM
Barnes & Noble has a "Buy 2, Get 1 Free" DVD sale going on right now. I got three Criterion DVDs for a little over sixty bucks - THE FRIENDS OF EDDIE COYLE, EMPIRE OF PASSION and CLASSE TOUS RISQUES.

Does this belong in the Criterion thread? I can't tell anymore.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 12, 2009, 04:05:37 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?

I think it was called "Hugman's Insecurity Blues."

aw, i was just funnin', Jon. It really has been eating at me trying to remember what song they used in that part, though. Do you remember? When he was puttin' on all nem hats?

Just funnin' back.  I can't recall what song it was and i cannot find the clip on YouTube (tried searching "townes van zandt hats" and "Be here to love me end credits").

Is it "You Are Not Needed Now"? That would fit. Guy Clark is awesome in that movie, by the way.  Per usual.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on June 12, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
I am so mad the Wheelers in Revolutionary Road didn't just take a vacation to France.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 12, 2009, 12:45:25 PM
I am so mad the Wheelers in Revolutionary Road didn't just take a vacation to France.

I thought that movie was so good (except for the ending which wasn't terrible but was so predictable. The very last scene is hilarious in how depressing it is, though) that I'm actually probably going to see Away We Go.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 12, 2009, 02:15:23 PM
Russian poster for Little Hercules in 3D, starring Judd Nelson, Elliot Gould, Robin Givens, Richard "Little Hercules" Sandrak, and Hulk Hogan as Zeus:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3597/ntkzlj6zfomm1i7zewjy8yk.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/ntkzlj6zfomm1i7zewjy8yk.jpg/)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 12, 2009, 02:37:22 PM
I'm excited! Got this email today.
For Sat: Paul Blart: Mall Cop

Speaking of mall cops, was there ever a discussion of Observe and Report on here?  After seeing it, I think that Jody Hill is a perfect cross between Adam McKay and Todd Solondz.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on June 12, 2009, 03:30:46 PM
I'm excited! Got this email today.
For Sat: Paul Blart: Mall Cop

Speaking of mall cops, was there ever a discussion of Observe and Report on here?  After seeing it, I think that Jody Hill is a perfect cross between Adam McKay and Todd Solondz.


Do you mean

1) that he's perfectly half-way between their sensibilities

OR

2) that as a result of being a combination of them, he's perfect?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 12, 2009, 05:47:45 PM
Speaking of mall cops, was there ever a discussion of Observe and Report on here?  After seeing it, I think that Jody Hill is a perfect cross between Adam McKay and Todd Solondz.


I'd consider myself a Jody Hill fan, but this description makes me like him a little less.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 12, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
Speaking of mall cops, was there ever a discussion of Observe and Report on here?  After seeing it, I think that Jody Hill is a perfect cross between Adam McKay and Todd Solondz.


I'd consider myself a Jody Hill fan, but this description makes me like him a little less.

Well, it's true. I'm talking welcome to the dollhouse Todd Solondz, which I really like. However it's not meant as a subjective statement.  Most of the scenes involving the mother in O&R  were very dark, the one where she talks about giving up booze especially. and let's not forget that sex scene.

It should be noted that I have a like/hate relationship with TS and AM.  I like Jody Hill better than either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on June 12, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
I just watched 1970's There Was a Crooked Man... starring Kirk Douglas and Henry Fonda. I had no idea how the movie ended up on my Netflix queue but I don't delete movies, I watch them.

After watching, it's a pretty fantastic anti-Western. All throughout, Kirk Douglas is the guy you're rooting for and he keeps saying, "I'm a son of a bitch". By the end, you realize, yes he is a son of a bitch.

It's trying to be a comedy at random times and most of those aspects fall pretty flat. There are a few nice little moments of realism like when the black maid has to get her "Mammy" face on when she's serving the rich white folks. The movie also has a gay couple that aren't too broadly drawn and given some decent respect.

And then I figured out why it was on my queue but I still can't remember where I heard about it. The snake in a bag of money trick that Kill Bill uses to make Daryl Hannah dead is first used here.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: orator on June 13, 2009, 05:59:08 AM
Just watched the Townes Van Zandt doc "Be Here To Love Me."

I am sitting here with misty eyes.  Beautiful.

Hey crybaby, which song did they use during the hat scene again?

 I never knew someone could have so much fun putting on hats.

 Great movie. And sad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: orator on June 13, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
 Oh, I just watched Fearless Freaks, which was pretty damned excellent.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on June 14, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
Jan Troell's Everlasting Moments. Man oh man, see this one if you have the chance. Maybe the most beautifully shot film I've ever had the pleasure of seeing in a cinema. So many unforgettable images.

Great acting and a heartbreaking story which teeters on the edge of schmaltz, but the director has such a light touch he never lets it go there.

I'd love to hear Martin's take on this one as it takes place primarily in Malmo.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 14, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
Finally saw The Hangover, and it was great.  I only really knew Zach G. from the Best Show and this board, and I'm glad he's a mega-star now -- super well-deserved.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 14, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
Finally saw The Hangover, and it was great.  I only really knew Zach G. from the Best Show and this board, and I'm glad he's a mega-star now -- super well-deserved.

wait, whuuuut? you've never seen Out Cold??? (I actually watched that whole thing a long time ago because Zach and David Koechner are in it).  Zach is only 117,623 ahead of me on the imdb starmeter.

I just saw The Hangover as well.  Just what the doctor ordered. I was like, man, Zach Galifianakis is going to be like Jack Black huge after this thing.  The audience was with him on every line. It was great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 14, 2009, 03:41:09 PM
Jan Troell's Everlasting Moments. Man oh man, see this one if you have the chance. Maybe the most beautifully shot film I've ever had the pleasure of seeing in a cinema. So many unforgettable images.

Great acting and a heartbreaking story which teeters on the edge of schmaltz, but the director has such a light touch he never lets it go there.

I'd love to hear Martin's take on this one as it takes place primarily in Malmo.

I had some problems with it, nothing major - the best/worst thing I can say about it is that it's "worthy"; serene and beautiful, but also sometimes dull, overlong and kind of repetetive (how many times do we need to see the father of the family come home drunk and beat up a random member of the family?). That said, Troell is a master, and his attention to detail is superb, he really has an eye for catching the everlasting moments, as it were (he shot the film too).

Definitely "CINEMA" of the old school variety - need to be seen in a theatre, for sure. Too bad he didn't have a bigger budget, you can definitely see the restrictions he had to put on the production, as far as sets and so on is concerned. Because of this we almost never get to see (for example) crane shots of an entire neighborhood - there just wasn't enough money to dress up an entire street to make it look like the early 1900's.

Malmö is well-presented in the film, although ironically, most of the working class hoods in the film are long gone - demolished in a big clean-up of the city in the 60s - so most of it had to be shot in other cities.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 15, 2009, 09:34:38 AM
Saw "Divided We Fall" yesterday.  Talk about a slow burn.  I was on the verge of nodding off for the first three quarters. By the end, I was practically standing on the couch screaming at the screen. 

Beautiful film.

Only critique: I hate when they say the name of the movie in the movie (at least when it seems a little forced). I really wish one of the characters had not patted the other on the back and said "Divided we fall. " That made me cringe. But given that the other 99.9% of the film was gorgeous, I'll let that one slide.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 15, 2009, 09:43:04 AM
Only critique: I hate when they say the name of the movie in the movie (at least when it seems a little forced). I really wish one of the characters had not patted the other on the back and said "Divided we fall. " That made me cringe. But given that the other 99.9% of the film was gorgeous, I'll let that one slide.

Not as bad as another film I saw, which I'm pretty sure contained the titular line "Don't you have anything better to do than capturing the Friedmans?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 15, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
I saw Food Inc. Holy s-hit. Now I have to quit doing commercials for food companies.  As I've stated on my facebook page, if you don't see this movie you don't deserve to live.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 15, 2009, 07:59:53 PM
I saw Food Inc. Holy s-hit. Now I have to quit doing commercials for food companies.  As I've stated on my facebook page, if you don't see this movie you don't deserve to live.

And if you do see it, you won't want to.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Me! on June 16, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
Watched Elephant Man earlier and cried like a big baby.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on June 16, 2009, 12:39:00 AM
* Endless Summer

* Another State of Mind

both very good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on June 16, 2009, 12:46:58 AM
Watched Elephant Man earlier and cried like a big baby.

What part made you sad??







I shouldn't assume......







Some folks cry






when they're happy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 16, 2009, 02:16:53 AM
My favorite part of the Elephant Man is when he reads this poem he wrote:
"These things are good: ice cream and cake, a ride on a harley, seeing monkeys in the trees, the rain on my tongue, and the sun shining on my face. These things are a drag: dust in my hair, holes in my shoes, no money in my pocket, and the sun shining on my face."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on June 16, 2009, 10:48:05 AM
I liked The Elephant Man. Me and my coworkers say "I am not an animal!" at work a lot.

I watched Milk yesterday- very well made! I thought it did a great job. Sean Penn = great job
About to watch Frost/Nixon. I am at home sick, so I am making the most of my time by watching movies I have been meaning to see.


I even have Bride Wars, of which I am not expecting much AT ALL.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 16, 2009, 11:08:25 AM
finally watched My Bloody Valentine, sans 3-D, and it was worth getting drunk/sleepy during. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 18, 2009, 08:55:56 PM
For those of you with patience for less-than-optimal viewing formats, this user has the best playlists of complete rare and classic foreign films (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=vivrelepresent&view=playlists) I've seen on YouseTube.  She just uploaded SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE director Victor Erice's very hard-to-find EL SUR, for instance.   
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on June 20, 2009, 10:39:30 AM
Saw UP-3D yesterday.

-There was something about the drawing and pacing that did not lend itself to whimsical narrative jumps.  One second the old dude is at his lowest depths of depression, facing eviction and life in a rest home.  One second later there are skeighty-eight million balloons rising out of his chimney.  Huh.

-One second the house is floating through a major American city.  Then, a stormy snooze later, the whole rig is in Venezuela?

-And elaborate back story about how Kevin is able to thwart Muntz for 60(!) years by hiding in her impenetrably byzantine nest lair is NARRATED to us.  Then at the end we get a soft focus aside of what this architectural wonder sorta looks like?

So... you have one of the most insanely awesome animation studios at the height of its power and they choose to make the "wow" shot a time lapse journey through how the textile and pattern usage has changed throughout the past 50 years in men's neckwear?

While the emotional backbone of the story definitely resonated, this one was a miss for me.  Felt like it was animation orchestrated by a children's book author.


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on June 20, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Anvil_ver2.jpg)

Thought it was rather good. Alternately sad and funny, the primary downer was Lars Ulrich's face showing up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 22, 2009, 12:06:37 PM
i gave a friend some serious ribbing for renting Gran Torino from the Redbox dispenser.  he invited me over to watch it and so i did* and it was horrible, of course, and hilarious with how racially insensitive he is.  









*"you cant knock it 'til you try it"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 22, 2009, 12:34:08 PM
and hilarious with how racially insensitive he is.  

Your friend, or Clint?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 22, 2009, 01:10:53 PM
I fully intend to watch Gran Torino.  It'll probably come off the Very Long Wait list around the time it's on HBO.  Netflix sucks for new releases.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 22, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
and hilarious with how racially insensitive he is.  

Your friend, or Clint?

Clint, that honky.


i should also clarify that the racial slurs themselves were not hilarious, it was the audacious manner in which he nonchalantly let them roll out of his mouth.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on June 22, 2009, 01:55:30 PM
Saw most of the In-Laws this morning and taped the rest (first time seeing it).  Ridiculous and hilarious. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on June 22, 2009, 02:02:24 PM
The original, I trust?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on June 22, 2009, 08:04:56 PM
I watched Border Radio last night. Aside from some stunning black and white photography of California and Mexico desert, it's kind of a boring movie. All the things I'm reading about the movie paint it as some harrowing look at 80's music scene in LA but music and the playing thereof takes about 1% of the run time. Most of it is just amateur actors struggling through their lines. I will say, John Doe does what he can with his part and comes out looking pretty decent as an actor.

(http://auteurs_production.s3.amazonaws.com/stills/7699/Film_362w_BorderRadio.jpg)

The movie is also a part of the Criterion Collection and it's the first truly boring movie under their auspices that I've come across.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 22, 2009, 10:54:23 PM
The original, I trust?

SERPENTINE
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: moonshake on June 23, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
Anyone saw Observe and Report? I saw it when it first came out then once again last weekend when it was playing at the dollar theater. Funny as it was the first time, I found myself laughing harder and more often the second time. I'd say it's one of the funniest new movies I've seen in a while.

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2009/04/09/observe_and_report_escalator_660.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on June 23, 2009, 12:18:45 PM
Anyone saw Observe and Report? I saw it when it first came out then once again last weekend when it was playing at the dollar theater. Funny as it was the first time, I found myself laughing harder and more often the second time. I'd say it's one of the funniest new movies I've seen in a while.

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2009/04/09/observe_and_report_escalator_660.jpg)

I'm excited! Got this email today.
For Sat: Paul Blart: Mall Cop

Speaking of mall cops, was there ever a discussion of Observe and Report on here?  After seeing it, I think that Jody Hill is a perfect cross between Adam McKay and Todd Solondz.


PS-Couldn't get past the fifteen minute mark of Paul Blart. Thing is, I would have found it funny if KJ had played it straight like Seth Rogan in O&E rather than mugging it up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 24, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Took the kids to see Night At The Museum 2: Ben Stiller's Boat Payments. What a hunk of junk. No surprise there I guess.

Although I must say that Amy Adams was quite fetching. [Slingblade grunt]
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 24, 2009, 11:46:42 PM

PS-Couldn't get past the fifteen minute mark of Paul Blart. Thing is, I would have found it funny if KJ had played it straight like Seth Rogan in O&E rather than mugging it up.

By the way, I experienced Paul Blart: Mall Cop in real life this weekend.  I went to the Short Hills Mall and asked the security guard if there was a book store. He said that it was gone as was the CD store. We got into a conversation about collecting vinyl (he was a big collector and paid $4000 on the tone arm of his turntable alone).  Anyway, a guy walked by with his daughters. The daughters were wearing heelies and rolling on them. The security guard said "Excuse me sir but they can't be rolling on..." The dad totally interrupted him and said "Yeah okay," continued on like the guard had said nothing, and the daughters kept rolling with no comment from the dad.

The security guard, obviously flustered, just said "I'll get 'em on the way back." 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 25, 2009, 10:05:08 AM

PS-Couldn't get past the fifteen minute mark of Paul Blart. Thing is, I would have found it funny if KJ had played it straight like Seth Rogan in O&E rather than mugging it up.

By the way, I experienced Paul Blart: Mall Cop in real life this weekend.  I went to the Short Hills Mall and asked the security guard if there was a book store. He said that it was gone as was the CD store. We got into a conversation about collecting vinyl (he was a big collector and paid $4000 on the tone arm of his turntable alone).  Anyway, a guy walked by with his daughters. The daughters were wearing heelies and rolling on them. The security guard said "Excuse me sir but they can't be rolling on..." The dad totally interrupted him and said "Yeah okay," continued on like the guard had said nothing, and the daughters kept rolling with no comment from the dad.

The security guard, obviously flustered, just said "I'll get 'em on the way back." 



That's thinkin' with yer dipstick, Jimmy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: stephen on June 29, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
Hangover director Todd Phillips' touching documentary about a musician who passed on a few years ago called Hated: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies is streaming online this week at pitchfork.tv.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: orator on June 29, 2009, 06:54:48 PM
Orson Welles' "F for Fake" which was really awesome.

"The value depends on opinion. Opinion depends on the experts. A faker like Elmyr makes fools of experts, so who's the expert? Who's the faker?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on June 29, 2009, 11:55:00 PM
Just finished Criterion's Written on the Wind, with Rock Hudson and Lauren Bacall. It was excellent! Very excellent!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on June 30, 2009, 01:10:19 AM
Hangover director Todd Phillips' touching documentary about a musician who passed on a few years ago called Hated: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies is streaming online this week at pitchfork.tv.

yes it is.  ive watched it twice already...at work.  im waiting for the day i click over to pitchfork and its blocked.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on June 30, 2009, 08:52:06 AM
Hangover director Todd Phillips' touching documentary about a musician who passed on a few years ago called Hated: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies is streaming online this week at pitchfork.tv.


Mr Phillips has great taste in leading men.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 30, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
Watched Hal Ashby's The Last Detail last night. LOVED IT.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on June 30, 2009, 09:33:25 PM
I wasn't expecting that much from Away We Go based on the commercials and publicity, but I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 02, 2009, 12:25:22 AM
Watched Vicky Cristina Barcelona tonight.  Woody Allen should have his passport revoked.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 06, 2009, 03:33:20 PM
Watched IN THE LOOP today. Just as I predicted, it's the movie to beat in 2009. Best of the year so far, by a wide margin.

Also, I could listen to this kind of dialogue all day long:

"Where do you think you are, some fucking Regency costume drama? This is a government department, not a fucking Jane fucking Austen novel. Allow me to pop a jaunty little bonnet on your purview and ram it up the shitter with a lubricated horse cock."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 06, 2009, 05:08:12 PM
Don't know if this was mentioned but Happy Go Lucky is very good!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwD7Zy6Vno[/youtube]
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wotally Tifficult on July 06, 2009, 05:33:58 PM
Don't know if this was mentioned but Happy Go Lucky is very good!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwD7Zy6Vno[/youtube]

Agreed, my nana had it play at her retirement home. Apparently, everyone bailed when they saw marijuana use(which I hadn't noticed/remembered.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on July 06, 2009, 05:57:30 PM
I saw some amazing Bruce Bickford films this weekend, one called Prometheus' Garden.  Don't let the fact that he worked with Zappa keep you away.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 06, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
i watched Awake this weekend.  it was awful. 

i also watched Good Luck Chuck.  also awful.

i hate Jessica Alba.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on July 06, 2009, 07:56:18 PM
Watched Killing Zoe (1994) directed by Roger Avary last night.

It wasn't half bad for a thrown together B-movie. The whole first half with the drug crazed Frenchmen is kind of aimless and drags on way too long but the bank heist second half has a really great tension throughout. Eric Stoltz is pretty good in it, too.

Also really love Avary's adaptation of The Rules of Attraction.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on July 06, 2009, 08:56:04 PM
About to watch How to Lose Friends and Alienate People.
It has Megan Fox in it. :{
But it also has Simon Pegg. So that could be ok.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: NJL on July 06, 2009, 09:02:03 PM
Did anyone see Moon?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on July 06, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
Did anyone see Moon?

I saw it last night and I recommend it, mostly for Sam Rockwell's excellent performance. I find him pretty much endlessly watchable. And the structure of the movie allows him to show off his acting chops, albeit in a kind of gimmicky way.

I'm pretty sure it's the director's first feature, and you can tell. He draws way too much attention to his plundering of bits and pieces from other sci-fi films, especially 2001. To be fair, a lot of this comes from of the script, and you can excuse it as homage, but I think he also lacks a strong visual sensibility of his own, compounding the problem.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on July 06, 2009, 11:52:47 PM
Fun fact: The director of Moon is Zowie Bowie aka Duncan Jones.

And has a beard to rival the Brushman's.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Duncan_Jones_at_the_2009_Tribeca_Film_Festival.jpg/396px-Duncan_Jones_at_the_2009_Tribeca_Film_Festival.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 06, 2009, 11:53:13 PM
I just saw that Michael Mann John Dillinger movie.  Dangerous Minds?  Desperate People?  No, Public Enemies.  anyway, it was pretty good, but had all that campy, melodramatic Michael Mann stuff that always makes me think of Coupon: The Movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 07, 2009, 06:27:07 AM
I just can't help disliking Michael Mann movies. I always come in hoping this will be the one that turns me around on him and I always walk away disappointed.

As for things I've actually seen recently, I re-watched The Long Good Friday last night since I just picked up the Criterion DVD. Holy moly is that movie awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on July 07, 2009, 08:15:37 AM
I just can't help disliking Michael Mann movies. I always come in hoping this will be the one that turns me around on him and I always walk away disappointed.


I think his best years are behind him for sure -- his last four movies have been stinkers. (I remember reading an interview wih Quentin Tarantino somewhere in which he said he would quit after twenty years of directing, because in his extensive study of directors' careers he'd never found one who had more than that many great years in him/her. For all the bullshit that guy spouts I thought he was pretty much right-on [though I can think of maybe two or three exceptions].)

I like The Informant a lot, and Manhunter and Heat both have some wonderful sequences.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 07, 2009, 09:09:50 AM
I just can't help disliking Michael Mann movies. I always come in hoping this will be the one that turns me around on him and I always walk away disappointed.


I think his best years are behind him for sure -- his last four movies have been stinkers. (I remember reading an interview wih Quentin Tarantino somewhere in which he said he would quit after twenty years of directing, because in his extensive study of directors' careers he'd never found one who had more than that many great years in him/her. For all the bullshit that guy spouts I thought he was pretty much right-on [though I can think of maybe two or three exceptions].)

I like The Informant a lot, and Manhunter and Heat both have some wonderful sequences.

Yet another extensively researched Tarantino opinion that I completely discount.   Admittedly many directors lose their drive or fall by the wayside but a lot more than 3 have had great 30-year + careers. 

I'll say this for Mann:  He's doing really interesting stuff w/ digital video.   I thought Collateral and Miami Vice looked amazing.   Haven't seen Public Enemies yet but the idea of shooting a period film in the same style sounds interesting.  
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 07, 2009, 09:18:47 AM
Yeah, it looked really good.  I had no idea it was digital until afterward, when I went online to look something up about it.

And has Tarantino cracked a late-period Bergman movie much?
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Post by: masterofsparks on July 07, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
Yeah, it looked really good.  I had no idea it was digital until afterward, when I went online to look something up about it.

And has Tarantino cracked a late-period Bergman movie much?

I think so. I read an interview where he said his next movie will be a "re-imagining of Fanny & Alexander in the style of Cannibal Holocaust." I wish I was making this up.*





* - I am.
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Post by: jbissell on July 07, 2009, 11:19:35 AM
Did anyone see Moon?

I'm pretty sure it's the director's first feature, and you can tell. He draws way too much attention to his plundering of bits and pieces from other sci-fi films, especially 2001. To be fair, a lot of this comes from of the script, and you can excuse it as homage, but I think he also lacks a strong visual sensibility of his own, compounding the problem.

I was listening to a Salon.com interview with him and he said that since the classic sci-fi comparisons were inevitable, he just decided to embrace certain elements like Hal and the design from Aliens.  I liked how the station has a very lived-in feel to it. 

I agree with the Rockwell praise, I thought he was great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 07, 2009, 11:26:46 AM
Yeah, it looked really good.  I had no idea it was digital until afterward, when I went online to look something up about it.

And has Tarantino cracked a late-period Bergman movie much?

I think so. I read an interview where he said his next movie will be a "re-imagining of Fanny & Alexander in the style of Cannibal Holocaust." I wish I was making this up.*





* - I am.

This is actually a better idea than most of what Tarantino has done.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 07, 2009, 05:57:50 PM
Yeah, it looked really good.  I had no idea it was digital until afterward, when I went online to look something up about it.

And has Tarantino cracked a late-period Bergman Trent L Strauss movie much?

fixed
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Post by: crumbum on July 07, 2009, 06:40:42 PM
Yet another extensively researched Tarantino opinion that I completely discount.   Admittedly many directors lose their drive or fall by the wayside but a lot more than 3 have had great 30-year + careers. 

Fair enough, I was pretty rash in my declaration, and there are certainly more than three such careers. Mann could be on his way to greater things, but the odds seem pretty low. What I got from QT's statement and agreed with was that the vast majority of the best directors have their great period pretty early in their career, and then set off on a long and slow decline. In general with my favourites I end up spending a ridiculous amount of time combing through the late period chaff looking for the wheat (I think that's how the analogy goes), and ending up wishing they'd quit while they were ahead.

The problem with Tarantino saying it might be that 20 years is giving him too much time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 07, 2009, 07:09:12 PM
I'm a big Mann Fann. Love everything from Thief onwards! QT is off his rockers as usual.

Also, it's The Insider, you Mannadummy, not The Informant. Crack a best-movie-based-on-a-60-minutes-segment much?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 07, 2009, 07:10:32 PM
Yet another extensively researched Tarantino opinion that I completely discount.   Admittedly many directors lose their drive or fall by the wayside but a lot more than 3 have had great 30-year + careers. 

Fair enough, I was pretty rash in my declaration, and there are certainly more than three such careers. Mann could be on his way to greater things, but the odds seem pretty low. What I got from QT's statement and agreed with was that the vast majority of the best directors have their great period pretty early in their career, and then set off on a long and slow decline. In general with my favourites I end up spending a ridiculous amount of time combing through the late period chaff looking for the wheat (I think that's how the analogy goes), and ending up wishing they'd quit while they were ahead.

The problem with Tarantino saying it might be that 20 years is giving him too much time.

Hopefully this means Tarantino will find a new job in 3 years.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 07, 2009, 07:25:38 PM
Directors with good 20+ years careers:

Martin Scorsese, Woody Allen, Robert Altman, Ingmar Bergman, Michelangelo Antonioni, Lars von Trier, Jean-Luc Godard, Francois Truffaut, Alain Resnais, Michael Mann, Jim Jarmusch, Spike Lee, John Huston, Werner Herzog, John Ford, Clint Eastwood, Akira Kurosawa, Hayao Miyazaki, Jacques Tourneur, Sam Fuller, Wim Wenders, Jan Troell, Robert Bresson, Agnès Varda, Brian De Palma, John Waters, Steven Spielberg etc etc.

I know this is a pointless exercise (it's a matter of taste etc), and I don't wanna be all Comic Book Guy about this, but all of these guys have made great films late (20 years on) in their careers, and far from all of them delivered right out the gates. QT's statement is ludicrous.
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Post by: fletcher munson on July 07, 2009, 07:30:51 PM
Yeah, exactly, it is all pointless because it's just a matter of opinion and Quentin Tarantino's opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.  By the way, could any of you putting Tarantino down pull off a Kill Bill.  Just wondering.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 08, 2009, 12:09:04 AM
Yeah, exactly, it is all pointless because it's just a matter of opinion and Quentin Tarantino's opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.  By the way, could any of you putting Tarantino down pull off a Kill Bill.  Just wondering.

Define "pull off."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 08, 2009, 01:53:15 AM
I love Michael Mann, and in a totally unrelated continuation to that sentence, Martin is right, In the Loop is very good.
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Post by: Trembling Eagle on July 08, 2009, 02:18:32 AM
I watched Into the Wild. Depressing.

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Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 08, 2009, 02:33:39 AM
I want to see Bruno.

(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/09/c62ff49a42506ceb22f60e8aad8fde34.jpg)

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Post by: fletcher munson on July 08, 2009, 08:14:27 AM
Me too, and I can't wait to see Moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0j_ONmVcXA&feature=fvst
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 08, 2009, 11:12:10 AM
Gotta love Sam Rockwell.

NPR interview about Moon:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105294494 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105294494)
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 08, 2009, 11:16:39 AM
By the way, could any of you putting Tarantino down pull off a Kill Bill. 

an ever further pointless question.  albeit, im sure ive thrown that out there in the heat of the moment myself, but in hindsight i realize what an idiot i sound like.*

the fact of the matter is, you're comparing apples to oranges.  sure, i can be a real loud mouth when im criticizing someone else's work, but it doesnt change when someone challenges me to put my money where my mouth is.  im obviously not going to turn around a run myself into the ground with debt in order to prove anyone wrong out of spite.  

anyway, im not attacking you, im attacking that stupid argument.



*not implying you sound like an idiot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 08, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
Tom has discussed on the show how "Let's see you make a movie/album/etc" is just about the stupidest possible criticism. 

I've never written an epic poem about dentistry, but I can tell you that Solyman Brown's Dentologia is kind of boring.  Not as boring as Kill Bill, however.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 08, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
Kill Bill bored you??

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/366088953_d107c5d265_o.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 08, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
Quote
Once it was possible to assume that Tarantino's pop culture references were an ironic critique on the barrenness of media-age culture, but there's no mistaking it now: Tarantino's work is not a commentary on the barrenness. It is the barrenness.

I agree with this review. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/10/10/DD25088.DTL&type=movies)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 08, 2009, 07:31:45 PM
I didn't see the second Kill Bill, but the first one was boring as fuck.  Except for the flashback with the Pussy Magnet truck or whatever it was, the whole thing was like watching someone else play a video game.

And if by "pull off a Kill Bill" you mean participate in the creation of a shitty movie, the answer is yes, I can and have.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 08, 2009, 08:55:29 PM
I just saw Lars and the Real Girl, and was pleasantly amazed at the tone of respect for basic human frailty on display in a film I had assumed would be a sequence of stupid sex jokes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 08, 2009, 09:52:49 PM
I just saw Lars and the Real Girl, and was pleasantly amazed at the tone of respect for basic human frailty on display in a film I had assumed would be a sequence of stupid sex jokes.

Dang, now I'm not going to see it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on July 08, 2009, 09:59:16 PM
I didn't see the second Kill Bill, but the first one was boring as fuck.  Except for the flashback with the Pussy Magnet truck or whatever it was, the whole thing was like watching someone else play a video game.

And if by "pull off a Kill Bill" you mean participate in the creation of a shitty movie, the answer is yes, I can and have.

I thought Kill Bill 1 and 2 were mesmerizing.  I loved every second of each of them.  But hey, whatever, let's bash Korine.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 08, 2009, 10:00:27 PM
I didn't see the second Kill Bill, but the first one was boring as fuck.  Except for the flashback with the Pussy Magnet truck or whatever it was, the whole thing was like watching someone else play a video game.

And if by "pull off a Kill Bill" you mean participate in the creation of a shitty movie, the answer is yes, I can and have.

I thought Kill Bill 1 and 2 were mesmerizing.  I loved every second of each of them.  But hey, whatever, let's bash Korine.

Let's bash Diablo Cody, that was always fun.  And Poster Children, while we're at it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on July 08, 2009, 10:02:29 PM
By the way, could any of you putting Tarantino down pull off a Kill Bill. 

an ever further pointless question.  albeit, im sure ive thrown that out there in the heat of the moment myself, but in hindsight i realize what an idiot i sound like.*

the fact of the matter is, you're comparing apples to oranges.  sure, i can be a real loud mouth when im criticizing someone else's work, but it doesnt change when someone challenges me to put my money where my mouth is.  im obviously not going to turn around a run myself into the ground with debt in order to prove anyone wrong out of spite.  

anyway, im not attacking you, im attacking that stupid argument.



*not implying you sound like an idiot.
Are you saying that if a person sees a burning building, he should be able to yell fire, even if he's not a fireman?
If not, I don't think I really understood your post, but have a nice evening.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 08, 2009, 10:04:20 PM
By the way, could any of you putting Tarantino down pull off a Kill Bill.  

an ever further pointless question.  albeit, im sure ive thrown that out there in the heat of the moment myself, but in hindsight i realize what an idiot i sound like.*

the fact of the matter is, you're comparing apples to oranges.  sure, i can be a real loud mouth when im criticizing someone else's work, but it doesnt change when someone challenges me to put my money where my mouth is.  im obviously not going to turn around a run myself into the ground with debt in order to prove anyone wrong out of spite.  

anyway, im not attacking you, im attacking that stupid argument.



*not implying you sound like an idiot.
Are you saying that if a person sees a burning building, he should be able to yell fire, even if he's not a fireman?
If not, I don't think I really understood your post, but have a nice evening.


Hey, my Uncle's a fireman!  Don't you insult the firemen!














































My uncle's not a fireman.  In fact, I don't have any uncles.  I just wanted to fight, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 08, 2009, 10:18:29 PM
The other day I saw a burning building, and I could have called 911 on my cell phone, but I was like, fuck it, I'm not a fireman.  NOT MY JOB.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 08, 2009, 10:19:33 PM
I didn't see the second Kill Bill, but the first one was boring as fuck.  Except for the flashback with the Pussy Magnet truck or whatever it was, the whole thing was like watching someone else play a video game.

And if by "pull off a Kill Bill" you mean participate in the creation of a shitty movie, the answer is yes, I can and have.

I thought Kill Bill 1 and 2 were mesmerizing.  I loved every second of each of them.  But hey, whatever, let's bash Korine.

Let's bash Diablo Cody, that was always fun.  And Poster Children, while we're at it.

At least you remembered to leave out "The" when discussing Poster Children.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 08, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
I didn't see the second Kill Bill, but the first one was boring as fuck.  Except for the flashback with the Pussy Magnet truck or whatever it was, the whole thing was like watching someone else play a video game.

And if by "pull off a Kill Bill" you mean participate in the creation of a shitty movie, the answer is yes, I can and have.

I thought Kill Bill 1 and 2 were mesmerizing.  I loved every second of each of them.  But hey, whatever, let's bash Korine.

Let's bash Diablo Cody, that was always fun.  And Poster Children, while we're at it.

At least you remembered to leave out "The" when discussing Poster Children.

I thought about putting it in there.

Cher!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 08, 2009, 11:02:50 PM
Hey, I loved Kids!  Harmony Korine wrote the screenplay to that, right?






I didn't love Kids.

Actually, I did like Kids, but that was because I went to the movies incredibly high for two whole years and everything seemed good.  I even liked Mallrats and Natural Born Killers.  But no amount of weed was enough to make me like Forrest Gump.

I'm a tiny bit bummed that the John Ford thing is gone.  I wonder if I can write "Bill Hicks" now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on July 09, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
Ok, So How to Lose Friends and Alienate People was not as funny as I thought it might be.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 09, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
Just watched Basquiat after planning to watch it for 13 years.

Meh.
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Post by: Steve in North Hollywood on July 09, 2009, 05:02:19 AM
Just watched Basquiat after planning to watch it for 13 years.

Meh.

Agreed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 09, 2009, 10:57:59 AM
I didn't love Kids.

Actually, I did like Kids, but that was because I went to the movies incredibly high for two whole years and everything seemed good.  I even liked Mallrats and Natural Born Killers.  But no amount of weed was enough to make me like Forrest Gump.

i was young when all of those movies came out (im still young) and i enjoyed them only briefly.  Kids i enjoyed the first time and havent really enjoyed it since.  ive seen 30 minutes of forrest gump accumulatively and i dont like it.  

i still enjoy mallrats when it's on network television.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 09, 2009, 11:17:46 AM
I know this movie was brought up on the show...I watched "Knowing" starring Nicolas Cage last night. Holy Canoli. I think Nic Cage played the whole movie in front of a green screen. I thought I was watching a cartoon!

Here's a still of Cage as the "brilliant-but-damaged" MIT professor. Do you like cliches?

(http://www.k5m.org/uhx/isitgood-knowing.jpg)

Here he is cracking the code. It takes him all of 30 seconds.

(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/knowing2.jpg)

Now I want to see "The Happening." Hope I have enough Laffy Taffy to get me through it.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 09, 2009, 11:23:21 AM
I didn't love Kids.

Actually, I did like Kids, but that was because I went to the movies incredibly high for two whole years and everything seemed good.  I even liked Mallrats and Natural Born Killers.  But no amount of weed was enough to make me like Forrest Gump.

i was young when all of those movies came out (im still young) and i enjoyed them only briefly.  Kids i enjoyed the first time and havent really enjoyed it since.  ive seen 30 minutes of forrest gump accumulatively and i dont like it.  

i still enjoy mallrats when it's on network television.

Controversial, but:


Mallrats > Forrest Gump > Driving a roadkill truck > Kids
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 09, 2009, 11:28:30 AM
Gummo is pretty funny, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 09, 2009, 11:35:50 AM
I don't get why everyone loves to hate Forrest Gump. It's entertaining, at least I thought so.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on July 09, 2009, 11:37:30 AM
I don't get why everyone loves to hate Forrest Gump. It's entertaining, at least I thought so.
I would pay to see Forest Gummo if it existed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 09, 2009, 12:22:54 PM
I don't get why everyone loves to hate Forrest Gump. It's entertaining, at least I thought so.

i havent seen enough of it to hate it, merely enough to not watch it any further.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hugman on July 09, 2009, 12:40:27 PM
I don't get why everyone loves to hate Forrest Gump. It's entertaining, at least I thought so.
i love it. and i almost always weep during it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 09, 2009, 03:23:34 PM
It just seems like recently (in the past few years) I've noticed this trend of people hating on Forrest Gump. There are so many terrible movies out there to hate, why this one? It's harmless and fun. My grandmother kind of became obsessed with it (which was quite odd if you knew her) which maybe gives the movie sentimental value for me. But still.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on July 09, 2009, 03:54:42 PM
It just seems like recently (in the past few years) I've noticed this trend of people hating on Forrest Gump. There are so many terrible movies out there to hate, why this one? It's harmless and fun. My grandmother kind of became obsessed with it (which was quite odd if you knew her) which maybe gives the movie sentimental value for me. But still.

This post basically sums up how I feel about Forrest Gump (minus the part about your grandmother).

It's not meant to be high art. And, of course, there are a multitude of films better than Forrest Gump. But it's not a bad film by any stretch.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 09, 2009, 06:38:56 PM
I'm posting this here instead of in the YouTube thread. My apologies if you've already seen it posted by me on twitter or Facebook, but it's simply amazing, and I can watch it all day long.

This is three minutes of amazing test footage from Henri-Georges Clouzot's aborted 1964 version of L'enfer (which was ultimately filmed in 1994 by Claude Chabrol, from Clouzot's script). The footage features Romy Schneider, who was set to star in the film, and it's just dreamy.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9dizt_extrait-3-lenfer-dhenrigeorges-clou_shortfilms
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Post by: gravy boat on July 09, 2009, 07:02:22 PM
It just seems like recently (in the past few years) I've noticed this trend of people hating on Forrest Gump. There are so many terrible movies out there to hate, why this one? It's harmless and fun. My grandmother kind of became obsessed with it (which was quite odd if you knew her) which maybe gives the movie sentimental value for me. But still.

This post basically sums up how I feel about Forrest Gump (minus the part about your grandmother).

It's not meant to be high art. And, of course, there are a multitude of films better than Forrest Gump. But it's not a bad film by any stretch.

I disliked it intensely at the time because it was then hailed as a great film, both by the press and all the older jackasses I worked with at the time ("It was around 1994, and I was a young pup, fresh out of school..."), and I thought it was boomer nostalgia/masturbation.  The film equivalent of We Didn't Start the Fire.  It's neither harmless nor fun. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 09, 2009, 09:49:14 PM
I don't hate Forrest Gump, I just kinda like Mallrats.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on July 10, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
The talk about Knowing reminded me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I think the usage of the Incredible Bongo Band really seals the deal.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on July 10, 2009, 02:58:42 AM
This is three minutes of amazing test footage from Henri-Georges Clouzot's aborted 1964 version of L'enfer (which was ultimately filmed in 1994 by Claude Chabrol, from Clouzot's script). The footage features Romy Schneider, who was set to star in the film, and it's just dreamy.
stunning.  so this must be footage included in the new doc ... hope it's on DVD soon.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 10, 2009, 03:22:41 AM
This is three minutes of amazing test footage from Henri-Georges Clouzot's aborted 1964 version of L'enfer (which was ultimately filmed in 1994 by Claude Chabrol, from Clouzot's script). The footage features Romy Schneider, who was set to star in the film, and it's just dreamy.
stunning.  so this must be footage included in the new doc ... hope it's on DVD soon.

That's correct. After I'd posted it on Facebook, I learned that a friend of mine has been involved in the new documentary - she told me it will be distributed theatrically at least in France and the UK, and I'm guessing it will make the festival rounds in the fall before coming out on DVD.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 10, 2009, 01:04:28 PM
Ha Stupornaut, I read an article that called "Knowing" 'The best disaster film of all time' or something like that. Despicable. And wrong, so very wrong.

The talk about Knowing reminded me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I think the usage of the Incredible Bongo Band really seals the deal.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 10, 2009, 08:28:03 PM
I can't believe Whammo didn't license it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on July 10, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
The talk about Knowing reminded me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I think the usage of the Incredible Bongo Band really seals the deal.

That gave me the biggest smile in months. Thanks!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on July 10, 2009, 11:26:18 PM
Has anyone seen Robo-geisha?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 11, 2009, 03:47:01 AM
Has anyone seen Robo-geisha?

Is it out yet? I've only seen the trailer. Machine Girl was disappointing, this looks like more of the same (like Asian Troma with slightly better fx/budget).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 11, 2009, 10:32:13 AM
Before we move on, I just want to kick Forrest Gump in his stupid head one more time.  Like gravy boat, I kept hearing how great it was, including from friends of mine, didn't really like it, and so saw it AGAIN just to make sure I wasn't missing anything.  And I was high one of those two times; I can't remember if I thought I give it a second chance sober or a second chance stoned, but I think it was the former.

Anyway, on that second try I realized how truly evil the movie was.  Not just more tiresome baby-boomer nostalgia, but extreme 90s backlash, accompanied by the desire to piss all over everyone else's fun because the creators feel bad about all the shit they did in the 60s.  The underlying message of that film is to go through life like a retarded person and do everything that people in authority tell you.  You will become a multi-millionaire while your decadent hippie wife will get slapped by an angry black guy and get AIDS.

The net result of this was when all those same friends said Titanic was actually really good, I was like nuh-uh, no fucking way, not on your life.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 11, 2009, 10:43:59 AM
The talk about Knowing reminded me of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I think the usage of the Incredible Bongo Band really seals the deal.

I thought that was a real trailer until the very end.  I was like, what the fuck, are they getting Lolcats to write the copy on these things now?  But the joke was on me.  Well done.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 11, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I liked Peter Sellers as Clouzot, I've resisted seeing Steve Martin try to play him.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: pete on July 11, 2009, 06:12:24 PM
Did anyone else spend the afternoon watching Get Bruce, the doc on Bruce Vilanch?  ... no?  Anyone?  Just me?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on July 11, 2009, 07:26:35 PM
Did anyone else spend the afternoon watching Get Bruce, the doc on Bruce Vilanch?  ... no?  Anyone?  Just me?

I've seen that. It bummed me out a lot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on July 11, 2009, 07:29:46 PM
Anyway, on that second try I realized how truly evil the movie was. 

Yep - I got into a lot of fights about this one. It's truly insidious.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on July 12, 2009, 10:27:12 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/In_the_Loop.jpg)

Film of the year.

Martin will back me up, and he's an expert.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on July 12, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
Did anyone else spend the afternoon watching Get Bruce, the doc on Bruce Vilanch?  ... no?  Anyone?  Just me?

Is that the prequel to LET'S GET FRANK?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on July 12, 2009, 10:12:26 PM
Food, Inc. (in a 17-seat theater!) was great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 13, 2009, 12:27:32 PM
The net result of this was when all those same friends said Titanic was actually really good, I was like nuh-uh, no fucking way, not on your life.

now i did see Titanic when it finally hit the dollar theatre because i was given the impression i was missing out on something great.  sure enough, i didnt drop a tear on this thing but i will always remember the girls in front of me SOBBING while the end credits rolled.  also, thinking it would be hilarious, i went back to tell everyone about the ridiculous sobbing poured on by the girls only to be told how heartless i was because everyone i was telling the story to cried as well.

give me a break. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 13, 2009, 11:41:59 PM

Anyway, on that second try I realized how truly evil the movie was.  Not just more tiresome baby-boomer nostalgia, but extreme 90s backlash, accompanied by the desire to piss all over everyone else's fun because the creators feel bad about all the shit they did in the 60s.  The underlying message of that film is to go through life like a retarded person and do everything that people in authority tell you.  You will become a multi-millionaire while your decadent hippie wife will get slapped by an angry black guy and get AIDS.

The net result of this was when all those same friends said Titanic was actually really good, I was like nuh-uh, no fucking way, not on your life.

1. WTF is "extreme 90s backlash?"
2. How does Forrest Gump piss all over your fun? Examples please.
3. "The underlying message of that film is to go through life like a retarded person and do everything that people in authority tell you.  You will become a multi-millionaire while your decadent hippie wife will get slapped by an angry black guy and get AIDS." ...

...Huh?? If you really believe that every movie is a message saying "live your life like the characters in my movie please," then you are wrong, to say the least. And how does the character (this is a work of fiction, I hope you realize that) only do what "people in authority" tell him?

I get it, it's the contrarian thing. If too many people like something, you feel the need to hate it.

Titanic is another example of a harmless movie that's meant to be purely entertaining. Obviously you can't be entertained if while you're watching it, you're wound up tight as a spring, just waiting for any opportunity to hate it. Like me trying to watch Monday Night Raw.

Anyway, I guess my point is, why are people still hating on Forrest Gump, and why expend energy hating something that's, to me, so innocuous.
 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 13, 2009, 11:48:53 PM
F Gump was just boring, and people that like one thing I find boring tend to like other things I find boring.
 
That said, Tom Hanks seems like a super kind of guy, like a reverse Klaus Kinski. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 14, 2009, 05:27:59 AM

Anyway, on that second try I realized how truly evil the movie was.  Not just more tiresome baby-boomer nostalgia, but extreme 90s backlash, accompanied by the desire to piss all over everyone else's fun because the creators feel bad about all the shit they did in the 60s.  The underlying message of that film is to go through life like a retarded person and do everything that people in authority tell you.  You will become a multi-millionaire while your decadent hippie wife will get slapped by an angry black guy and get AIDS.

The net result of this was when all those same friends said Titanic was actually really good, I was like nuh-uh, no fucking way, not on your life.

1. WTF is "extreme 90s backlash?"
2. How does Forrest Gump piss all over your fun? Examples please.
3. "The underlying message of that film is to go through life like a retarded person and do everything that people in authority tell you.  You will become a multi-millionaire while your decadent hippie wife will get slapped by an angry black guy and get AIDS." ...

...Huh?? If you really believe that every movie is a message saying "live your life like the characters in my movie please," then you are wrong, to say the least. And how does the character (this is a work of fiction, I hope you realize that) only do what "people in authority" tell him?

I get it, it's the contrarian thing. If too many people like something, you feel the need to hate it.

Titanic is another example of a harmless movie that's meant to be purely entertaining. Obviously you can't be entertained if while you're watching it, you're wound up tight as a spring, just waiting for any opportunity to hate it. Like me trying to watch Monday Night Raw.

Anyway, I guess my point is, why are people still hating on Forrest Gump, and why expend energy hating something that's, to me, so innocuous.
 

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Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 14, 2009, 06:37:31 AM
F Gump was just boring, and people that like one thing I find boring tend to like other things I find boring.
 
That said, Tom Hanks seems like a super kind of guy, like a reverse Klaus Kinski. 

Agreed! But I hated Forrest Gump, too; his one-note gimmicky performance was about as deserving of an Oscar as Ben Stiller's in Meet the Parents. And it wasn't a contrarian thing, I went in wanting to like it, but couldn't do it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 14, 2009, 06:38:34 AM
And my cousin's in it! (John Worsham, for you Hollywood types. Anybody know him?)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on July 14, 2009, 09:16:46 AM
 
 
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That photo made me sad. His beer landed upside down.
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Post by: hugman on July 14, 2009, 09:32:57 AM
F Gump was just boring, and people that like one thing I find boring tend to like other things I find boring.
 
That said, Tom Hanks seems like a super kind of guy, like a reverse Klaus Kinski. 

Agreed! But I hated Forrest Gump, too; his one-note gimmicky performance was about as deserving of an Oscar as Ben Stiller's in Meet the Parents. And it wasn't a contrarian thing, I went in wanting to like it, but couldn't do it.

i disagree whole-heartedly, Dave.  The character was a simple man, but he showed a range and depth of emotions.  wow. forest gump. hot-button topic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
I blame Benjamin Button.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 14, 2009, 11:43:43 AM
wow. forest gump. hot-button topic.

no kidding, jeepers creepers.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on July 14, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
I saw an interview with John Waters where he was asked about people protesting her movies and he said something to the effect of "People protest things that offend them for some reason. I didn't protest when Forrest Gump started running"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on July 14, 2009, 05:55:47 PM

 

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I used to get sad as a kid when I would see that poster or needlepoint thing with the kid whose ice cream cone fell cream-down!  It's nice to know we have something in common in some mutant way.

By the way, Fredricks, not to rob your posts of their singular charm, but the / usually means the end of something.  So quote is just the word "quote," in brackets, and when you want the quote to be over you use the /.  But you know, keep on doing whatever you want.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2009, 11:09:18 PM
Just watched Paris, Texas and liked it a lot.  Harry Dean Stanton is awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on July 15, 2009, 12:36:20 AM
Just saw The Hangover last night. That flick is made out of funny.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 15, 2009, 10:24:46 AM
Just saw The Hangover last night. That flick is made out of funny.

every time i try to see this movie, someone else tries to get me to see transformers instead. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on July 15, 2009, 10:40:04 AM

 

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That photo made me sad. His beer landed upside down.
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I used to get sad as a kid when I would see that poster or needlepoint thing with the kid whose ice cream cone fell cream-down!  It's nice to know we have something in common in some mutant way.

By the way, Fredricks, not to rob your posts of their singular charm, but the / usually means the end of something.  So quote is just the word "quote," in brackets, and when you want the quote to be over you use the /.  But you know, keep on doing whatever you want.
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Grote,

We were very close on the Myers-Briggs, if you recall.

Regarding your later statement:  That sounds like robot talk to me.

p.s. "I know problems'  this is not a problem.  For me anyway.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on July 15, 2009, 12:02:07 PM
Just saw The Hangover last night. That flick is made out of funny.

every time i try to see this movie, someone else tries to get me to see transformers instead. 

Just say no to Transformers and see the Hangover. You won't regret it unless you hate laughing and love regretting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on July 15, 2009, 12:26:05 PM
Even my mom recommends The Hangover.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on July 15, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Even my mom recommends The Hangover.

My mother in law wants us to rent it as soon as it comes out and watch it with her because my wife keeps talking to her about it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on July 16, 2009, 12:47:49 AM
The Hurt Locker has some of the best suspense scenes I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on July 19, 2009, 08:07:51 PM
Here's something that exists. What a cast!

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Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 19, 2009, 08:32:50 PM
That tears it.  We've got to revive the movie game. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 19, 2009, 08:33:28 PM
Director Eric Bana!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AndrewVDill on July 19, 2009, 08:39:22 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qffLoJh0wic[/youtube]

Here's the trailer.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Dan B on July 19, 2009, 11:40:12 PM
Best mockumentary since For Your Consideration. 

P.S. What's with all the mid-2000's indie rock in that thing?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 20, 2009, 03:02:32 PM
I just saw Moon and I thought it was great. Getting into the car afterwards and hearing the second half of "Echoes" didn't hurt either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on July 20, 2009, 04:13:09 PM
Belatedly, I chime in to say I loathed Forrest Gump both for its sentimental candy coating and its reactionary, poisonous center. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 20, 2009, 04:15:05 PM
Belatedly, I chime in to say I loathed Forrest Gump both for its sentimental candy coating and its reactionary, poisonous center. 

It's never too late to confess your loathing of that movie, Sarah.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on July 21, 2009, 10:55:14 AM
Yeah, of course I hated it too. I think most of the controversy on this topic can be explained by whether or not people were children when it was released. Kids bought it, and have their opinions of the movie colored by nostalgia.

Tom Hanks does seem like a pretty nice guy, but also the dullest actor around. His presence in anything makes it almost 100% certain that I won't see it. Anytime I diverge from this policy ('The Ladykillers'!) I regret it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 21, 2009, 11:03:13 AM
Yeah, of course I hated it too. I think most of the controversy on this topic can be explained by whether or not people were children when it was released. Kids bought it, and have their opinions of the movie colored by nostalgia.

Tom Hanks does seem like a pretty nice guy, but also the dullest actor around. His presence in anything makes it almost 100% certain that I won't see it. Anytime I diverge from this policy ('The Ladykillers'!) I regret it.

I thought Charlie Wilson's War was great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 21, 2009, 01:42:59 PM
Yeah, of course I hated it too. I think most of the controversy on this topic can be explained by whether or not people were children when it was released. Kids bought it, and have their opinions of the movie colored by nostalgia.

i can argue this by saying i was eleven years old when this movie was released and i hated it.  i saw it as an adult, thinking i was missing out on something, and i still gave it a thumbs down. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 21, 2009, 01:50:04 PM
Tossed-off summations of things I've seen lately:

CRIA CUERVOS – Spanish film directed by Carlos Saura near the time of Franco’s death.  Highly, highly recommended.  Maybe the most dead-on depiction of childhood emotions I’ve ever seen in a film.  Stars Anna Torrent, the little girl from SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE (and possibly written with her in mind?).   Criterion released this but slapped one of their ugliest covers on it.  You should be able to watch it free for the remainder of the month on The Auteurs website.  

SILENT LIGHT – 2007 film set in a Mennonite community in Mexico (AGAIN?) that I think hits US dvd this fall.   The point of praise everyone seems to agree on is the majestic opening shot, and while I watched this in full in probably the worst possible format – YouseTube (“HQ”) - I have to agree it’s nature porn of a very high order.   However, the film apes the pacing of Tarkovsky and especially the entire conclusion of Dreyer’s ORDET in a very shameless and superficial way.   Still worth a look as at least those are references worth ripping off for a change.

THE HURT LOCKER – I’ve been trying to decide whether I prefer this to GENERATION KILL (surprised I haven’t seen the two compared more thus far) and overall I’d probably say yes.  GK had stronger characterization and more detail but the set pieces here are far more taut and suspenseful.  Kathryn Bigelow will likely be a no-brainer for a best director nod and even factoring out politics it’ll be deserved.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 21, 2009, 02:12:21 PM
Good to know about The Hurt Locker. I've heard amazing things but I was ignoring it for awhile, possibly because of the dumb title. It sounds like I may need to see it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 21, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
Good to know about The Hurt Locker. I've heard amazing things but I was ignoring it for awhile, possibly because of the dumb title. It sounds like I may need to see it.

Well, it's good, but amazing is pushing it.  Keep in mind it's been a long time since there was anything with explosions that critics could chew on.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: B_Buster on July 21, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
Tossed-off summations of things I've seen lately:

THE HURT LOCKER – I’ve been trying to decide whether I prefer this to GENERATION KILL (surprised I haven’t seen the two compared more thus far) and overall I’d probably say yes.  GK had stronger characterization and more detail but the set pieces here are far more taut and suspenseful.  Kathryn Bigelow will likely be a no-brainer for a best director nod and even factoring out politics it’ll be deserved.  


I thought it was good, too, but a little repetitious at times (which may have been the point) and a little long. I'd probably give the nod to Generation Kill, but it had more time to develop the characters.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 21, 2009, 03:07:45 PM
The best thing about GK is that it's funny.  Is Hurt Locker funny?  I've been staying away because it looks sad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 21, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
The best thing about GK is that it's funny.  Is Hurt Locker funny?  I've been staying away because it looks sad.

GK is way funnier and the humor is more organic.  Hurt Locker has gallows/buddy humor but nothing I really laughed out loud at.  The performances are really strong. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on July 21, 2009, 03:33:19 PM
Tossed-off summations of things I've seen lately:

THE HURT LOCKER – I’ve been trying to decide whether I prefer this to GENERATION KILL (surprised I haven’t seen the two compared more thus far) and overall I’d probably say yes.  GK had stronger characterization and more detail but the set pieces here are far more taut and suspenseful.  Kathryn Bigelow will likely be a no-brainer for a best director nod and even factoring out politics it’ll be deserved.  


I thought it was good, too, but a little repetitious at times (which may have been the point) and a little long.

Yeah, I've read some interviews where she basically said that was the point; these guys do this 8-10 times a day and she wanted to capture that sense of repitition.  Despite the repitition, the stakes always felt high (though there were certain moments when I knew exactly what was going to happen, ie. the doctor tagging along).  I actually thought the weakest parts were the moments away from the action, they didn't really add too much to the characters.  Hopefully Jeremy Renner gets some awards notice because it's easily the best performance I've seen this year.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 21, 2009, 03:39:01 PM
i saw Blindness yesterday.  luckily, i recorded it because this movie was...well, it was something.  i couldve gone without seeing the rape scenes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on July 21, 2009, 04:15:19 PM
The best thing about GK is that it's funny.  Is Hurt Locker funny?  I've been staying away because it looks sad.

Never ask Mike if anything's funny, unless you are looking to see something that isn't funny.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 22, 2009, 08:08:31 AM
Here's another plug for Moon. Sam Rockwell's great. It's a measured character study, but there are plenty of subtle funny moments that prevent it turning into Stroszek in space. Very nice.  I can't remember if I mentioned last week how much I liked Lars and the Real Girl, but if I didn't, I did.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 22, 2009, 10:12:56 AM
Tossed-off summations of things I've seen lately:

THE HURT LOCKER – I’ve been trying to decide whether I prefer this to GENERATION KILL (surprised I haven’t seen the two compared more thus far) and overall I’d probably say yes.  GK had stronger characterization and more detail but the set pieces here are far more taut and suspenseful.  Kathryn Bigelow will likely be a no-brainer for a best director nod and even factoring out politics it’ll be deserved.  


I thought it was good, too, but a little repetitious at times (which may have been the point) and a little long.

Yeah, I've read some interviews where she basically said that was the point; these guys do this 8-10 times a day and she wanted to capture that sense of repitition.  Despite the repitition, the stakes always felt high (though there were certain moments when I knew exactly what was going to happen, ie. the doctor tagging along).  I actually thought the weakest parts were the moments away from the action, they didn't really add too much to the characters.  Hopefully Jeremy Renner gets some awards notice because it's easily the best performance I've seen this year.

Details online are a bit sketchy since I don't have an IMDB Pro subscription, but based on the little I've heard, I'm really looking forward to Bigelow's follow-up (it might be a sequel, I'm not sure) The Anxiety Pantry.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on July 23, 2009, 08:58:08 AM
I watched Mamma Mia! last night.  Distressing on many levels.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 23, 2009, 09:45:02 AM

Tom Hanks does seem like a pretty nice guy, but also the dullest actor around.


I'm pretty close friends with a writer for Entertainment Weekly named Chris Nashawaty, and he said that of all the people he's interviewed, Hanks was the biggest FWD of them all (Jim Carrey was actually the nicest).


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 23, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
I streamed the Scott Walker doc on Netflix recently.  For someone who makes such loony music he seems like a fairly low-key, baseball hat wearing guy.   In fact, he seemed more pretentious in footage of him as a younger man.   Recommended if you appreciate (as I do) Tilt and The Drift.     
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 26, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
Allow me to join Martin and Samir and what will eventually be a whole slew of you praising IN THE LOOP.  It's pretty much a given that this is the comedy of the year.  The joke frequency is as high as a particularly enjoyable silly comedy while the satire manages to rise above the usual smug choir-preaching and get some pointed shots in (like those at Gandolfini's Colin Powell-esque general).  That's no surprise coming from Iannucci, I know, but I think a lot of people inured to Hollywood hacks like John Cusack and Barry Levinson fumbling with this stuff will find it refreshing and this film will generate a sizable following over time.  

It's appropriate in a way that this is coming out alongside The Hurt Locker (and not just because they're both hilarious).   That film is more effectively anti-war from an audience perspective than any of the other Iraq movies precisely because it's seemingly so apolitical. Meanwhile, ITL cleverly and humanely illustrates the farcial nature of the war buildup by focusing more on flailing mid-level types rather than subconsciously trying to get Cheney, Blair, et al indicted for war crimes.   It's also a testament to Iannucci's talent that he was able not only to reconfigure The Thick of It and now the film around such a demonic character as Malcolm Tucker, but that he successfully threw ANOTHER scene-stealing, hyper-agressive Scotsman into the mix as well, just for the hell of it.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2009, 11:56:15 AM
Allow me to join Martin and Samir and what will eventually be a whole slew of you praising IN THE LOOP.  It's pretty much a given that this is the comedy of the year.  The joke frequency is as high as a particularly enjoyable silly comedy while the satire manages to rise above the usual smug choir-preaching and get some pointed shots in (like those at Gandolfini's Colin Powell-esque general).  That's no surprise coming from Iannucci, I know, but I think a lot of people inured to Hollywood hacks like John Cusack and Barry Levinson fumbling with this stuff will find it refreshing and this film will generate a sizable following over time.  

It's appropriate in a way that this is coming out alongside The Hurt Locker (and not just because they're both hilarious).   That film is more effectively anti-war from an audience perspective than any of the other Iraq movies precisely because it's seemingly so apolitical. Meanwhile, ITL cleverly and humanely illustrates the farcial nature of the war buildup by focusing more on flailing mid-level types rather than subconsciously trying to get Cheney, Blair, et al indicted for war crimes.   It's also a testament to Iannucci's talent that he was able not only to reconfigure The Thick of It and now the film around such a demonic character as Malcolm Tucker, but that he successfully threw ANOTHER scene-stealing, hyper-agressive Scotsman into the mix as well, just for the hell of it.  

I look forward to this opening in Arkansas in Spring 2011.

Oh man, I can't wait to get outta this state.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 27, 2009, 12:06:17 PM
jump ship on the natural state; the volunteer state welcomes you. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
jump ship on the natural state; the volunteer state welcomes you.  

I'm embarrassed to say, I had to Google "volunteer state".

I appreciate the offer, BVT, but I'm holding out until after I strike it diamond-rich. That IS what Arkansas is known for, right?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 27, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
i tagged along with a friend and her eight-year old to see ZG-Force in 3D and it was fun.  i recommend this for the FOTlings.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 27, 2009, 01:13:45 PM
For those who can't see In the Loop in theaters for a while it'll be on IFC On Demand very soon.  And there are still other ways...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 27, 2009, 01:24:19 PM
And there are still other ways...

Whaaaaaaat???
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on July 27, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
In the Loop was so good that I BLASTED through all the episodes and specials of The Thick of It.  I caught the British political humour bug and am now onto The New Statesman.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2009, 01:40:36 PM
In the Loop was so good that I BLASTED through all the episodes and specials of The Thick of It.  I caught the British political humour bug and am now onto The New Statesman.

The good thing about IN THE LOOP not playing in Arkansas is that it forced me to order THE THICK OF IT and THE ARMANDO IANNUCCI SHOWS on DVD.

Multi-region player: most worthwhile investment ever?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on July 27, 2009, 01:47:30 PM
Time Trumpet is another quality Iannucci project.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 27, 2009, 02:11:36 PM
THE ARMANDO IANNUCCI SHOWS is definitely the most underrated thing Iannucci's done. It's brilliant.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 28, 2009, 01:07:59 PM
Okay FOT, I need your help.

My family is out of town tonight and I plan to take in a double feature.  I cannot decide.  Here are my top runners:

Hurt Locker
Dead Snow
Food Inc.
Moon
The Hangover

But I am open to others. I NEVER get to the movies these days except for kid's movies.  HELP!

Thanks,
Jon
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 28, 2009, 01:11:34 PM
Haven't seen them, but I'd go with The Hurt Locker and Moon for the visuals alone. The Hangover is definitely not "must see in cinema" material - in fact, I didn't like it that much at all, save Zach G. Haven't seen the others - I'm guessing Food Inc is not overly "cinematic".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 28, 2009, 01:11:46 PM
Oh, and In the Loop is on my short list too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on July 28, 2009, 01:12:21 PM
OK, In the Loop it is.  :)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on July 28, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
In The Loop, definitely, and since I already compared it with Hurt Locker I'm sort of obligated to pick that instead of Hangover (but that's the only reason).   I haven't seen Moon.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 28, 2009, 02:04:10 PM
Thanks guys. I'm thinking Hurt Locker and In the Loop is the ticket.  The others I will watch on TV later (with the understanding that I will lose the visuals on Moon).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 28, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
I vote Moon.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 29, 2009, 11:40:20 AM
"The Hurt Locker" and "In The Loop" made for an incredible double feature. It was as if they were meant to be seen together.  In ways, ITL left me more depressed about the nature of war than did THL.


P.S: How long do you think before Entertainment Weekly does an interview with Kathryn Bigelow and entitles the article "Lady Hurt Locker?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on July 29, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
P.S: How long do you think before Entertainment Weekly does an interview with Kathryn Bigelow and entitles the article "Lady Hurt Locker?"

I believe that is the title of a chapter in Spike's upcoming book.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: orator on July 30, 2009, 11:31:02 AM
I just watched In Bruges. Damn, that was funny. Loved it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on August 09, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
This is just my own little hang-up, but I have a really hard time seeing any sort of animal cruelty rendered on-screen (though I strangely have no problem watching people be killed*). It pulls me out of the movie and upsets me enough that I usually end up either being unfairly harsh towards the movie or just turning it off.

For whatever reason, I seem to be on a really hot streak as far as picking just this sort of movie lately. First was Terrence Malick's Badlands. The most recent, and much more egregious offender, is Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev. I only made it about 2 hours before I was so upset that I had to turn it off. Every time something happened, I kept trying to reassure myself that what I'd just seen wasn't real, that there was some way to fake it, but a couple of the instances seemed real. I just don't see any reason for that sort of stuff to happen on-camera. If such story points are really so important to the film (and I can't really think of a reason why they are), at least do it like the dog's death in Jaws where it happens completely off-camera.

Yes, I'm a spaz, and I realize it. This hang-up probably subtracts from my enjoyment of some really great art, but I can't help it. Does anyone else have something that similarly impedes their enjoyment of films/books/whatever?

/blog

* - In movies. Obviously. What kind of monster do you think I am?
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Post by: Sarah on August 09, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Predictably, I'm with you on this one.  I flinch whenever a beast has more than a bit part in a movie, worrying that it's going to meet an awful end.  Hell, I was a little concerned when the dog showed up in the Ice-T video.
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Post by: jbissell on August 09, 2009, 01:19:54 PM
Have you seen Gummo?
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Post by: orator on August 09, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
 I just watched the MST3K version of Boggy Creek 2 last night, and it has a couple scenes of a live deer swimming and then they show its decapitated head floating in the water, and some moron in an apesuit dragging its headless body around.

 It pissed me off. I mean, killing an animal for a movie is pretty crappy anyway, but for such a shitty movie and for all of two stupid scenes, that's even worse.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 09, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
I just did a little quick internetting and it seems that at least two of the most egregious scenes in Andrei Rublev were not faked (i.e. the animals were maimed and/or killed). I guess there was no such thing as the SPCA in the mid-60s Soviet Union.

I should've stopped watching after the monk beat his dog to death for no reason. The scene was shot in such a way that it's obvious the dog was not harmed, but it happened early in the film and it made me uneasy. I should've listened to my gut, but I kept watching because this movie is so highly regarded as an important classic.

Now I'm going to be upset for the rest of the day. Great.
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Post by: hugman on August 09, 2009, 02:37:52 PM
I just did a little quick internetting and it seems that at least two of the most egregious scenes in Andrei Rublev were not faked (i.e. the animals were maimed and/or killed). I guess there was no such thing as the SPCA in the mid-60s Soviet Union.

I should've stopped watching after the monk beat his dog to death for no reason. The scene was shot in such a way that it's obvious the dog was not harmed, but it happened early in the film and it made me uneasy. I should've listened to my gut, but I kept watching because this movie is so highly regarded as an important classic.

Now I'm going to be upset for the rest of the day. Great.

This is what you get for watching arty farty movies.  I guarantee no guinea pigs were harmed in the making of G-Force.

On another note, I just finally watched a lovely cartoon called Gran Torino.  This could have been such a good movie if it weren't perhaps one of the worst executed movies I've ever seen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on August 09, 2009, 09:05:38 PM
My list-obsessed friends and I are compiling a top 100 for the 80s right now, so I'm trying to fill in some embarrassing gaps from that decade, since most of my 80s screening log consists of movies starring Chevy Chase, movies starring Eddie Murphy, and movies starring Chevy Chase and Eddie Murphy (National Lampoon's Harlem Vacation).

Today I took an unfortunate detour, however, as I watched the low-budget, immediately boring and stupidly confusing Shrooms, a horror film about a bunch of American teenagers who go to Ireland to trip on shrooms in the countryside. Cue Deliverance-style inbreeds, in-group bickering, strange noises in the woods, Blair Witch-esque urban legends, and an assault of scenes where we're supposed to go "whoa, is this real or is this a trip?" (yes it is, the shaky handcam and the ugly after effects give it away).

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Post by: ian on August 10, 2009, 12:21:05 AM
and movies starring Chevy Chase and Eddie Murphy (National Lampoon's Harlem Vacation).

swing and a miss
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Post by: Martin on August 10, 2009, 12:22:05 AM
That's too bad, I clearly worked all weekend on that joke.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 10, 2009, 12:02:52 PM
i watched penelope this weekend and i dont understand the concept of using england as a location but have all the characters speak with american accents (including the guy(s) who are actuaklly from the u.k.!).
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Post by: buffcoat on August 10, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
It's getting a little bitchy in here.
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 10, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
i watched penelope this weekend and i dont understand the concept of using england as a location but have all the characters speak with american accents (including the guy(s) who are actuaklly from the u.k.!).

Try "Happy-Go-Lucky".  England location and british accents.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on August 11, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
I had forgotten just how great Glengarry Glen Ross was until I watched it last night (for the first time in about five years). It's a confluence of superb acting and masterful writing by David Mamet. The highlight of the film for me is the conversation between Moss and Aaronow at the restaurant.
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Post by: Chris L on August 11, 2009, 01:58:13 AM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later
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Post by: betheboy on August 11, 2009, 02:39:36 AM
I had forgotten just how great Glengarry Glen Ross was until I watched it last night (for the first time in about five years). It's a confluence of superb acting and masterful writing by David Mamet. The highlight of the film for me is the conversation between Moss and Aaronow at the restaurant.

For me, the desperation of Jack Lemon as Shelly Levine will always be the best part of that movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: betheboy on August 11, 2009, 02:41:00 AM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later

That descriptions sounds so good I fear that watching it executed can only disappoint me. I hope that's not the case.
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Post by: Christina on August 11, 2009, 06:53:04 AM
I had forgotten just how great Glengarry Glen Ross was until I watched it last night (for the first time in about five years). It's a confluence of superb acting and masterful writing by David Mamet. The highlight of the film for me is the conversation between Moss and Aaronow at the restaurant.

This movie has trucknuts, don't it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on August 11, 2009, 10:23:21 AM
Maybe they just found that severed head as they were filming in the woods, and said "Hey, it's dead already, let's use this."

Probably not. I encourage those of you with this particular dislike to avoid the film "What Just Happened."

I just watched the MST3K version of Boggy Creek 2 last night, and it has a couple scenes of a live deer swimming and then they show its decapitated head floating in the water, and some moron in an apesuit dragging its headless body around.

 It pissed me off. I mean, killing an animal for a movie is pretty crappy anyway, but for such a shitty movie and for all of two stupid scenes, that's even worse.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on August 11, 2009, 10:40:01 AM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later

That descriptions sounds so good I fear that watching it executed can only disappoint me. I hope that's not the case.

Except for some harmless schlockiness it pretty much delivers, especially the very rough and mean fight at the end.  I think Sam Peckinpah wrote the original script but took his name off the film when he didn't like the final result.  It's not the most in-depth portrait of the depression and you could see how it could've been as surreal as something like Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, but oh well.  It's entertaining, it's got Lee Marvin as a hobo and the testosterone is at Murder Ape-levels.
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Post by: Trotskie on August 11, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later

That descriptions sounds so good I fear that watching it executed can only disappoint me. I hope that's not the case.

My exact thought.
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Post by: Martin on August 11, 2009, 11:51:46 AM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later

That descriptions sounds so good I fear that watching it executed can only disappoint me. I hope that's not the case.

Except for some harmless schlockiness it pretty much delivers, especially the very rough and mean fight at the end.  I think Sam Peckinpah wrote the original script but took his name off the film when he didn't like the final result.  It's not the most in-depth portrait of the depression and you could see how it could've been as surreal as something like Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, but oh well.  It's entertaining, it's got Lee Marvin as a hobo and the testosterone is at Murder Ape-levels.

Thanks for recommending this, Chris - I'm always up for some Aldrich madness. When he's good he's GOOD (Kiss Me Deadly), and when he's not he's almost as interesting (The Big Knife). Here's a portrait of Aldrich my pal Max (he of our movie poster fame) did a while ago (click for bigger):

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8606/aldrichcopie.th.jpg) (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/aldrichcopie.jpg/)
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Post by: yesno on August 11, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
I mentioned Into Great Silence in the Best of the 2000s thread and I mean it!  It's about 3 hours of footage of some Carthusian monks.  I love it.  It's up there with Fog of War, recent documentary-wise.  You might hate it, though.

I should say that it's not so much the footage so much as the ambient sounds that really make it great.  Wood creaking, robes rustling around, raindrops.
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Post by: jbissell on August 11, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
I mentioned Into Great Silence in the Best of the 2000s thread and I mean it!  It's about 3 hours of footage of some Carthusian monks.  I love it.  It's up there with Fog of War, recent documentary-wise.  You might hate it, though.

I should say that it's not so much the footage so much as the ambient sounds that really make it great.  Wood creaking, robes rustling around, raindrops.

I've had a copy of this for a while now but am never in the proper mood to actually watch it.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 11, 2009, 12:44:48 PM
I enjoyed that too, when I saw it 12-15 years ago. Marvin's usually fun in an Eeyore way, but Borgnine's completely over-the-top sadistically crazy; his character's thoroughly SCUMM-Force enabled.
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Post by: Wes on August 11, 2009, 01:02:08 PM
Just watched Robert Aldrich's Emperor of the North (Pole) and if the premise alone doesn't prompt a rental there's probably no hope for you.   Lee Marvin plays "A-No. 1" the king of the hobos during the Great Depression and most likely an American hero to a young Dick Whitman.  He's determined to do the impossible and hop the train of the sadistic Shack (Ernest Borgnine), who likes nothing more than to kill hobos with a hammer... or chain... or other trainhold objects, rather than give them a free ride.  Keith Carradine tags along as Marvin's unwanted sidekick, following a first meeting where Marvin whacks him with a live chicken (sorry, masterofsparks).  The final Marvin/Borgnine brawl is immortal.  Probably soon to be remade with the guy from Twilight and a Jonas Brother to be named later

That descriptions sounds so good I fear that watching it executed can only disappoint me. I hope that's not the case.

Except for some harmless schlockiness it pretty much delivers, especially the very rough and mean fight at the end.  I think Sam Peckinpah wrote the original script but took his name off the film when he didn't like the final result.  It's not the most in-depth portrait of the depression and you could see how it could've been as surreal as something like Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, but oh well.  It's entertaining, it's got Lee Marvin as a hobo and the testosterone is at Murder Ape-levels.

I've never seen this, and I'm almost ashamed at how much your recommendation and descriptions make me want to see it now. Almost.

Gleaned from IMDb alone:
Tagline - Lee Marvin & Ernest Borgnine meet in the fight of the century.

Memorable quotes:
-[Shack laughs as the hobo falls over the cupola of the caboose]

-[Steadying his sledge-hammer] Shack: But now I'm going to show you what happens to people who ride on my train without a ticket.

-Shack: There's only one 'bo that's got the stuff to try me, and you ain't even on the list.

-A no. 1: You got a chance to be a good bum. You can be a meat eater, kid. I mean people, not their garbage.

And the posters!
(http://img5.travelblog.org/Photos/19879/315380/t/2749929-emperor-of-the-north-lee-0.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516Y7C0C36L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

That second one looks like it should be the cover of a "You Are A Hobo Killer" Choose Your Own Adventure book, but it works. There's something about how the train looks like it has a smiling clown face that somehow makes it more terrifying. And these aren't even as insane as foreign posters for the movie look.

I may leave work right now to go watch this somewhere.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: B_Buster on August 11, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
Emperor of the North is what inspired me to pick up the hammer.
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Post by: buffcoat on August 11, 2009, 03:00:42 PM
Ol' Gil is going to close those leads!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on August 15, 2009, 02:34:06 AM
So District 9 is awesome.
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Post by: jbissell on August 15, 2009, 02:44:47 AM
So District 9 is awesome.

I haven't been that impressed by effects in a long time.  There wasn't one moment that didn't feel totally real.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on August 16, 2009, 12:25:49 AM
The Hurt Locker has some of the best suspense scenes I've seen in a long time.

You aren't kidding. Wow that was intense  :o
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on August 16, 2009, 08:29:58 AM
I just caught To Catch A Thief at BAM and realized that it was actually the first time I'd seen a Hitchcock movie in an actual theater.  Holy moley, was it great.  Watching them on TV doesn't compare at all.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 16, 2009, 09:41:24 AM
I just caught To Catch A Thief at BAM and realized that it was actually the first time I'd seen a Hitchcock movie in an actual theater.  Holy moley, was it great.  Watching them on TV doesn't compare at all.

I saw Rear Window when they re-released it to theaters several years ago (in connection with a restoration, if I recall correctly) and, I agree, it's a completely different experience.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 16, 2009, 09:43:25 AM
Oh, and I plan to watch Dillinger today (with Warren Oates playing John Dillinger!). I don't know if the movie will be any good, but as far as I'm concerned, any time watching a movie with Warren Oates on-screen is time well-spent.
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Post by: Martin on August 16, 2009, 09:47:44 AM
Dillinger is pretty good! Also it's written-directed by crazy John Milius.
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Post by: dnk on August 16, 2009, 06:55:56 PM
Anybody see FUNNY PEOPLE?

It's been getting really mixed reviews, but I loved it. It was one of those movies I just connected with because of where I'm at in my life right now and things I'm thinking about.

The complaints about it being too long aren't too far off the mark, it's definitely long, but being that I enjoyed it, I didn't mind. Other people's mileage might vary.

As long as you go in knowing it's not a slapstick, laugh-a-minute comedy, but just treat it like you would any other movie, I think people would really enjoy it.

A lot of my favorite parts were the things that had viral marketing, like Aziz Ansari's RAAAAAAAANDY! character and Jason Schwartzman's crappy teen sitcom, YO TEACH!
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on August 16, 2009, 07:07:03 PM
I just caught To Catch A Thief at BAM and realized that it was actually the first time I'd seen a Hitchcock movie in an actual theater.  Holy moley, was it great.  Watching them on TV doesn't compare at all.

I saw Rear Window when they re-released it to theaters several years ago (in connection with a restoration, if I recall correctly) and, I agree, it's a completely different experience.

One of the classiest moments of my life was seeing "Notorious" in a theater in Paris.  It was fantastic, but my brain was way too busy saying "You're watching Notorious in a theater in Paris" to really appreciate it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on August 16, 2009, 08:32:36 PM
Yeah, I had a similar feeling at a Landmark "Oriental" theater in Milwaukee, except I was watching Burn After Reading so it was more like, I can't wait until this movie is over so I can go check out those giant Buddhas.  I did have a similar feeling seeing Lawrence of Arabia at the Ziegfield, though.

Luckily this Cary Grant retrospective is all happening at my neighborhood theater, so it's not too distracting.  Today I saw The Awful Truth -- still totally hilarious.

BAM actually has a lot of great restrospectives coming up lately -- Robert Redford, Dario Argento, Juliette Binoche.  I just got my advance tix for a screening of Blue, which I can't WAIT to see in a theater.  Q&A with Juliette Binoche afterward.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on August 17, 2009, 10:13:08 AM
I just got my advance tix for a screening of Blue, which I can't WAIT to see in a theater.  Q&A with Juliette Binoche afterward.

I hate you so much right now.  So much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on August 17, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
I just got my advance tix for a screening of Blue, which I can't WAIT to see in a theater.  Q&A with Juliette Binoche afterward.

I hate you so much right now.  So much.

Dude, that flick is like fifteen years old.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on August 17, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
I just got my advance tix for a screening of Blue, which I can't WAIT to see in a theater.  Q&A with Juliette Binoche afterward.

I hate you so much right now.  So much.

Dude, that flick is like fifteen years old.

I would like to see her in person.  She's like my Alyssa Milano!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on August 17, 2009, 11:38:31 AM
She's great, I agree. Hope she doesn't go off on her conspiracy theories during the Q&A though - that could be awkward.
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Post by: jbissell on August 17, 2009, 11:46:57 AM
She's great, I agree. Hope she doesn't go off on her conspiracy theories during the Q&A though - that could be awkward.

Hmm, don't think I've heard these.

EDIT: Oh great, a 9/11 truther.  Oh well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on August 17, 2009, 12:49:26 PM
I saw Orphan
wasn't interested until I heard last weeks show

Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 17, 2009, 01:15:56 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.
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Post by: Sarah on August 17, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
Kids these days.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on August 17, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.

it wasn't over the top, but it was skeevy. I hope that actress was playing under her age.
I'm sure she's probably 15 or something.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on August 17, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
Twelve.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on August 17, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
She's actually a middle-aged, cigar-smoking midget dwarf diminutive sort.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: erika on August 17, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.

I assume you've never seen/read Lolita ;)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on August 17, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.

I assume you've never seen/read Lolita ;)


Just finished it today!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: erika on August 17, 2009, 04:05:10 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.

I assume you've never seen/read Lolita ;)


Just finished it today!

Probably one of my favorite books. Best sympathetic "villain" of all time!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 17, 2009, 04:20:49 PM
Most disturbing part is when she tries to seduce the father.

Ew.

I assume you've never seen/read Lolita ;)

no no, ive read/seen it...but that whole concept still makes my skin crawl.  


(http://images.stanzapub.com/readers/2009/02/27/lolita14_1.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on August 17, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
Here's something that exists, and may require a one man show.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.moviefone.com/insidemovies/media/2009/08/road-house-2.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on August 19, 2009, 08:37:27 AM
That's a bummer that Juliette Binoche is a truther.  Though maybe if I hear the theory in that cute accent I will be swayed!

Jbissell, I guess you're not in NY?  I think there are still plenty of tix available.

Also going to see the Rifftrax Live event tomorrow night -- anyone else?  It's MST3K under a different name and is happening nationally at various theaters.  They're doing Plan 9 From Outer Space.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: moonshake on August 19, 2009, 10:30:24 AM
I saw Ponyo on Saturday and it was great! I and my friend were the only adults in the theater who were there to see the movie for themselves. All others were there for their kids. :D
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on August 19, 2009, 10:49:53 AM
Jbissell, I guess you're not in NY?  I think there are still plenty of tix available.

Nope, Chicago.

Quote
Also going to see the Rifftrax Live event tomorrow night -- anyone else?  It's MST3K under a different name and is happening nationally at various theaters.  They're doing Plan 9 From Outer Space.

I really wanted to go to this but have to work late tonight.

Cinematic Titanic are doing some live shows here in Sept. that I'd like to check out but $40 is a bit pricey for me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on August 20, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
I rather enjoyed this, though it's hard to avoid comparing it to the book, from which it's very different.

(http://www.jessicaloddo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/the_damned_united_poster1.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on August 20, 2009, 10:07:39 AM
I rather enjoyed this, though it's hard to avoid comparing it to the book, from which it's very different.

(http://www.jessicaloddo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/the_damned_united_poster1.jpg)


oooo! I love all the guys in this movie, but i know absolutely nothing about soccer. Soccer movies tend to go over my head.

Well, except for Victory, of course. I think you'd have to be dead not to be into that movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on August 20, 2009, 11:33:38 AM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: tits mcgee on August 20, 2009, 12:15:21 PM
Here's something that exists, and may require a one man show.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.moviefone.com/insidemovies/media/2009/08/road-house-2.jpg)

Is this for real? I am lol'ing/need to watch it immed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on August 20, 2009, 12:39:19 PM
The faces on those girls look exactly the same.  Twins?  Photoshop?  Something worse?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on August 20, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
The faces on those girls look exactly the same.  Twins?  Photoshop?  Something worse?

Plus, the girl on the right has a belly button located maybe an inch under her sternum.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 20, 2009, 12:50:04 PM
Soccer movies tend to go over my head.

even...the big green?

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Post by: Dan B on August 20, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Air Bud: World Pup is pretty heady.
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Post by: nec13 on August 20, 2009, 01:14:53 PM
I've watched Night Moves 3 or 4 times and I still don't understand what the hell is going on. I don't think Harry Moseby does either.
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Post by: samir on August 20, 2009, 01:32:41 PM
oooo! I love all the guys in this movie, but i know absolutely nothing about soccer. Soccer movies tend to go over my head.

Well, except for Victory, of course. I think you'd have to be dead not to be into that movie.

It's a solid film, The Damned United. I don't think you have to be too clued up about British football in the mid-70s to keep up with it, although maybe that's easy for me to say. At its heart, it (the film, unlike the book) is a story of a man with too much ambition, and his relationship with his best friend.
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Post by: Wes on August 20, 2009, 01:38:17 PM
I tried watching Road House 2 and found it too boring to bother with. Maybe it picks up later, but I doubt it. It seemed flawed from the start. It should have been Road House 2: Tinker's Revenge.

While I haven't seen it yet, I'm going to guess that 8MM2 is the superior Schaech-powered sequel.
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Post by: Chris L on August 20, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

It left me feelin' kinda Delgo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361500/).
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Post by: Sarah on August 20, 2009, 06:16:47 PM
Soccer movies tend to go over my head.

even...the big green?



Or Fever Pitch (the original)?
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Post by: Reeleyes on August 20, 2009, 10:32:56 PM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

Awful or not, it's going to be this generation's Star Wars. I haven't heard the word "Avatar" without the words "ground-breaking" or "revolutionary" in the same sentence. The nerds have already decided.
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Post by: samir on August 20, 2009, 10:39:40 PM
Or Fever Pitch (the original)?

Hooray Arsenal!

Meanwhile, I just saw Food, Inc. and there was some footage from Oprah's court case against the Texas Beef Board, but alas not the sound bite that inspired Rock Rot and Rule.
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Post by: yesno on August 20, 2009, 10:50:31 PM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

Awful or not, it's going to be this generation's Star Wars. I haven't heard the word "Avatar" without the words "ground-breaking" or "revolutionary" in the same sentence. The nerds have already decided.

I am going on the record: this will be a huge flop.
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Post by: Reeleyes on August 20, 2009, 11:02:52 PM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

Awful or not, it's going to be this generation's Star Wars. I haven't heard the word "Avatar" without the words "ground-breaking" or "revolutionary" in the same sentence. The nerds have already decided.

I am going on the record: this will be a huge flop.

I don't know. I have a friend that went to comicon and said that Avatar was the biggest thing there. You are cool Yesno but I'm going to have to take the opposing side on this one. It's a December release, John Cameron, first full digital 3D flick ever, it's going to be huge.
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Post by: tits mcgee on August 20, 2009, 11:12:41 PM
I saw District 9 tonight. 

So disappointing. 

I went in expecting to see something like Aliens or Predator. 

Nope... 

Smeh.
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Post by: yesno on August 20, 2009, 11:16:05 PM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

Awful or not, it's going to be this generation's Star Wars. I haven't heard the word "Avatar" without the words "ground-breaking" or "revolutionary" in the same sentence. The nerds have already decided.

I am going on the record: this will be a huge flop.

I don't know. I have a friend that went to comicon and said that Avatar was the biggest thing there. You are cool Yesno but I'm going to have to take the opposing side on this one. It's a December release, John Cameron, first full digital 3D flick ever, it's going to be huge.

We'll see!  The nerd commenters at io9 seem pretty unimpressed, but it is James Cameron.
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Post by: Reeleyes on August 20, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
James, John, whatever. The movie that I do think will be a flop is Thw Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro.
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Post by: Barry Egan on August 20, 2009, 11:25:24 PM
(http://www.tlavideo.com/images/z/cg/0/7/253870_aa.jpg)

http://redwithoutblue.com/ (http://redwithoutblue.com/)

Wow.  This has been out for a couple of years but I just now saw it and was FLOORED. Best documentary I've seen in a long time.  

If anyone's interested, it can be streamed on Netflix or also viewed here. (http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/red_without_blue/)
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Post by: yesno on August 20, 2009, 11:42:20 PM
James, John, whatever. The movie that I do think will be a flop is Thw Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro.

I didn't even see that you wrote "John."  It could be that I just hope for humanity that this is a flop.

I just (finally) watched THIS IS ENGLAND.  So good!
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Post by: DoodleJump! on August 20, 2009, 11:46:05 PM
(http://www.tlavideo.com/images/z/cg/0/7/253870_aa.jpg)

http://redwithoutblue.com/ (http://redwithoutblue.com/)

Wow.  This has been out for a couple of years but I just now saw it and was FLOORED. Best documentary I've seen in a long time.  

If anyone's interested, it can be streamed on Netflix or also viewed here. (http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/red_without_blue/)

After I saw you post this elsewhere, I visited the website and watched the trailer. Wow, indeed! I am definitely watching this on on my weekly Netflix-streaming-eating-solo-party. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 21, 2009, 07:32:43 AM
Avatar looks awful, based on the trailer.  A bunch of hippy jive.  Cool airplanes, though.

Awful or not, it's going to be this generation's Star Wars. I haven't heard the word "Avatar" without the words "ground-breaking" or "revolutionary" in the same sentence. The nerds have already decided.

Legend meets Red Dawn, with higher resolution.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 21, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
ive been meaning to watch this, red without blue.  it's interesting to see documentaries on twins because my mother is a twin and the dynamic there goes beyond siblings, and at times, marriage.  it's a very interesting thing, the bond between twins.









also, i cant write today...apparently.
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Post by: hugman on August 21, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
just watched Jesus Son again last night.  That is one damn fine movie.
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Post by: Creekmore_Banks on August 21, 2009, 02:10:45 PM
Last night, I watched Harvard Beats Yale 29-29, the documentary about the 1968 football game. I watched it mainly because it was available on Netflix Watch Instantly. There's the not-so-subtle manipulation that typically comes with sports documentaries (there is actually a bit edited together where the Harvard players talk about their blue-collar credentials, while the Yale players talk about their family's history with Yale), but it's still a good watch. I went in to the movie expecting to hate both sides equally, but the final few minutes of the game were pretty great and I was completely behind Harvard. Also, Tommy Lee Jones played for Harvard and he's delightful throughout. If you have Netflix Watch Instantly, it's worth checking out--after Ski School 2, of course.
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Post by: orator on August 21, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
I bet James Cameron is really hating Neill Blomkamp right about now.
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Post by: Reeleyes on August 21, 2009, 04:07:45 PM
just watched Jesus Son again last night.  That is one damn fine movie.

I love that Crudup's character is only known as "Fuckhead".
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on August 21, 2009, 10:48:53 PM
Just saw District 9.  Good stuff!  Ditto on Jesus' Son.  I love that movie.
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Post by: erika on August 21, 2009, 11:53:39 PM
I just watched The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. Very, very good... heartbreaking but excellent... I got a lot more out of it than I'd expected to based on the previews.
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Post by: Chris L on August 22, 2009, 05:21:29 AM
Jesus' Son, the book, is fantastic.   
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Post by: emma on August 22, 2009, 11:31:21 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?
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Post by: buffcoat on August 22, 2009, 11:36:30 AM
I saw GI Joe yesterday.  The ladies are pretty.  It's a terrible, terrible movie.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 22, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

A bar run by Diablo Cody?
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Post by: fonpr on August 22, 2009, 11:30:16 PM
Watched Buck and The Preacher last night.  Great.  Better than I remembered.
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Post by: Trembling Eagle on August 23, 2009, 05:28:35 AM
Just saw District 9.  Good stuff!  Ditto on Jesus' Son.  I love that movie.

I can't believe somebody made a sympathetic Afrikaaner, that accent sets my teeth on edge
I wonder if that guy can get more roles.

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Post by: cutout on August 24, 2009, 12:20:20 AM
I'm not sure why, but I went to see World's Greatest Dad tonight by myself. All I'd heard about it was "black comedy" and "Bobcat Goldthwait" and I thought that meant it add up to something mildly entertaining. Which is accurate.
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Post by: cutout on August 24, 2009, 12:23:34 AM
Sweet Christmas, I think I found someone more annoying than MovieBoy -

hxxp://www.colesmithey.com/capsules/2009/08/-worlds-greatest-dad.html
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on August 24, 2009, 07:59:59 AM
I saw Hirokazu Kore-eda's film Distance at BAM yesterday.  It was OK.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Jesus' Son, the book, is fantastic.   

i read the book before the movie (a rarity in my case, i usually never see the movie if i read the book) and yes, i love that book.
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Post by: orator on August 25, 2009, 07:01:02 PM
Last night I watched Jesus Son' due to all the good things said about it in this thread. It was indeed excellent, so thank you. It was very funny and enjoyable, and Crudup is a great actor, comedic or otherwise.

"Patient complains of knife in the head."
"Stabbing headache?"


Then I tried to watch George Washington, but for some reason it was too depressing for me and I turned it off after the pivotal plot point happens. I think it was that part and seeing the angry guy chop wood and me imagining what would probably later happen to the dog.
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Post by: Chris L on August 25, 2009, 08:20:19 PM
If you have the oddball/shitty movie channel "This," they're showing Hal Ashby's THE LANDLORD @ 10 tonight. 
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 25, 2009, 08:35:47 PM
I saw Hirokazu Kore-eda's film Distance at BAM yesterday.  It was OK.
I'm thinking of going to see Air Doll.
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Post by: Phantom Hugger on August 25, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
I don't know if anyone has posted anything about this movie, but while bored at work today I found this...

http://www.foxsearchlight.com/gentlemenbroncos/

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Post by: Reeleyes on August 26, 2009, 01:52:49 AM
I don't know if anyone has posted anything about this movie, but while bored at work today I found this...

http://www.foxsearchlight.com/gentlemenbroncos/



I saw that too. I'm not that into the Napoleon Dynamite style of cinematogrphy but the Sci-Fi stuff looks hilarious.
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Post by: Martin on August 26, 2009, 04:22:09 AM
Watched Richard Kelly's THE BOX last night. It's either a very multi-layered, creepy lo-fi sci-fi, or an enigmatic, overlong, overwritten, pretentious piece of shit. Not really sure.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 26, 2009, 06:38:40 AM
Watched Adventureland on DVD. Really liked it, even when it hit way too close to home (except for the whole "cute girls being interested in you" part). Getting to see Bill Haverchuck in college was a treat.
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 26, 2009, 10:38:13 AM
I don't know if anyone has posted anything about this movie, but while bored at work today I found this...

http://www.foxsearchlight.com/gentlemenbroncos/



I saw that too. I'm not that into the Napoleon Dynamite style of cinematogrphy but the Sci-Fi stuff looks hilarious.

yeah, im over the look of the hess brothers as well.  i cant tell if im going to even think this is funny.
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Post by: Sarah on August 26, 2009, 12:00:23 PM
I'll watch anything with Jemaine Clement in it.
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Post by: Pat K on August 26, 2009, 12:14:59 PM
Watched Richard Kelly's THE BOX last night. It's either a very multi-layered, creepy lo-fi sci-fi, or an enigmatic, overlong, overwritten, pretentious piece of shit. Not really sure.

So just the same as Donnie Darko, basically.
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Post by: Martin on August 26, 2009, 12:53:45 PM
Watched Richard Kelly's THE BOX last night. It's either a very multi-layered, creepy lo-fi sci-fi, or an enigmatic, overlong, overwritten, pretentious piece of shit. Not really sure.

So just the same as Donnie Darko, basically.

Yep. And now the jury (me) is in: it stinks. Now I'm just trying to decide just how much.
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Post by: jamesp on August 26, 2009, 11:18:14 PM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 27, 2009, 06:30:20 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.
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Post by: Pat K on August 27, 2009, 09:23:14 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.
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Post by: Sarah on August 27, 2009, 09:28:15 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing what you think of Julie and Julia, Martin.
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Post by: Chris L on August 27, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

A shot was set to that song, it wasn't playing on a jukebox. 
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Post by: Pat K on August 27, 2009, 10:49:56 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

A shot was set to that song, it wasn't playing on a jukebox. 

That makes more sense, if that's the case. You always hear about how Scorcese made such an effort to make all the music period-specific according to the year of every scene, so when remembering it I always kind of always assume that 90% of the music is diagetic.
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Post by: nec13 on August 27, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

In Mean Streets, "Please, Mr. Postman" playing in the background during the brawl in the pool hall. That song added an extra comedic element to that already ridiculous fight scene.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGGk0FpGIxM[/youtube]
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Post by: Martin on August 27, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing what you think of Julie and Julia, Martin.

I kind of loved it! I found Streep and Tucci absolutely irresistable, and the food porn was great. Didn't mind the Amy Adams parts either, even if her character without a doubt was very full of herself, as her otherwise rather bland husband so accurately pointed out. I was thinking that had I had a friend like that, who only talks about herself and Julia Child, and how Julia "speaks to her" and whatever, I would have a hard time maintaining that friendship.

A bit long, maybe. But I pretty much dug it.
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Post by: Mark in Helsinki on August 27, 2009, 02:13:15 PM
When will there be a Mr. Rogers biopic?

I was just thinking about him last night - don't ask how he came up, I just don't know - and realized that he never, to my knowledge, licensed ANYTHING to sell to kids. Forget the movie, he should be sainted or something.







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Post by: nec13 on August 27, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
When will there be a Mr. Rogers biopic?

I was just thinking about him last night - don't ask how he came up, I just don't know - and realized that he never, to my knowledge, licensed ANYTHING to sell to kids. Forget the movie, he should be sainted or something.


Mr. Rogers is one of my heroes. I would hope that a studio would have the good sense not to commercialize and trivialize his life story, especially when he refused to pander to commercial interests during his life. Besides, a Mr. Rogers biopic would be boring for most people, as he led an entirely clean life. The lessons and wisdom that he imparted to his viewers should be his ultimate legacy, not some lousy biopic. 
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Post by: Pat K on August 27, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
When will there be a Mr. Rogers biopic?

I was just thinking about him last night - don't ask how he came up, I just don't know - and realized that he never, to my knowledge, licensed ANYTHING to sell to kids. Forget the movie, he should be sainted or something.

I remember seeing him get pranked on some sort of Candid Camera type show years and years ago. It was in a nice hotel, and they were secretly filming people getting shown their rooms by the hotel clerk or whoever, who was actually with the show. The gag was that the room had all these problems with it, like none of the lights worked, the TV was broken, the sink was screwed up, etc, and they would film people getting angry about this and losing their cool. (I never said it was a funny show.)

Well unbeknownst to the show, by chance Mr Rogers happens to be one of the guests. But the funny thing was that he was totally nice and polite and unflappable, and shrugged off all of the deficiencies with this totally genial "oh, I'll make do, that's fine" attitude. As hard as they tried, they could not get him to get upset whatsoever. It was hilarious and completely sweet and heartwarming at the same time.
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Post by: Mark in Helsinki on August 27, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
[ The lessons and wisdom that he imparted to his viewers should be his ultimate legacy, not some lousy biopic. 


Fair enough.... I was just trying to stay on topic while getting off it completely. He's a huge hero of mine, too. I didn't realize how much he meant to me, but I guess he did (does).

So you want drama? When's the Oliver Stone Ted Kennedy biopic coming out? Any guesses?
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 27, 2009, 03:34:23 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing what you think of Julie and Julia, Martin.

I kind of loved it! I found Streep and Tucci absolutely irresistable, and the food porn was great.

i can tell from the trailer(s) alone that im going to love meryl streep in this movie.  i also happen to catch her on the colbert report talking about the movie and she seemed just as charming.  go figure!
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Post by: Sarah on August 27, 2009, 04:37:04 PM
Thanks, Martin.  I will accordingly look forward to next year when it shows up on a station I get.
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Post by: MattJohnson on August 27, 2009, 10:29:37 PM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.
Not to be a jerk, but I, too, had that thought. And Train in Vain!

Also, as someone from Michigan I can tell you that—believe it or not—we listened to Belle & Sebastian in high school.
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Post by: fonpr on August 28, 2009, 08:37:08 AM
When will there be a Mr. Rogers biopic?

I was just thinking about him last night - don't ask how he came up, I just don't know - and realized that he never, to my knowledge, licensed ANYTHING to sell to kids. Forget the movie, he should be sainted or something.

I remember seeing him get pranked on some sort of Candid Camera type show years and years ago. It was in a nice hotel, and they were secretly filming people getting shown their rooms by the hotel clerk or whoever, who was actually with the show. The gag was that the room had all these problems with it, like none of the lights worked, the TV was broken, the sink was screwed up, etc, and they would film people getting angry about this and losing their cool. (I never said it was a funny show.)

Well unbeknownst to the show, by chance Mr Rogers happens to be one of the guests. But the funny thing was that he was totally nice and polite and unflappable, and shrugged off all of the deficiencies with this totally genial "oh, I'll make do, that's fine" attitude. As hard as they tried, they could not get him to get upset whatsoever. It was hilarious and completely sweet and heartwarming at the same time.


I remember Mr. Rogers doing an interview and chuckling about how his crew would put stuff in his slippers to catch him off guard while filming the show.  He came across as unflapable. 
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 28, 2009, 08:50:54 AM
Finally got to see In the Loop last night. Loved it. While Peter Capaldi is (deservedly) getting a lot of attention for his performance, I was also really impressed by David "Sledge Hammer" Rasche. I can't wait to see it again and hear some of the dialogue that got lost in the accents the first time through.
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Post by: hugman on August 28, 2009, 10:49:53 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

I always questioned (but enjoyed) the idea of a bunch of rough and tumble baltimore cops getting drunk to the Pogues in The Wire.
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Post by: Chris L on August 28, 2009, 11:37:31 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

I always questioned (but enjoyed) the idea of a bunch of rough and tumble baltimore cops getting drunk to the Pogues in The Wire.

The biggest headscratcher for me was Nick Sobotka's Palace Music poster. 
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Post by: masterofsparks on August 28, 2009, 11:49:29 AM
A friend convinced me to go see 500 Days of Summer yesterday.
What kind of karaoke bar has Here Comes Your Man but not Born To Run?

You read my mind! I turned to my friend and said the same thing.

Maybe the same person from the Adventureland creative staff who decided that putting "Pale Blue Eyes" on the jukebox of a working-class Pittsburgh bar in 1987 was believable.

Ha! My personal favorite Unbelievable Movie Jukebox Scene is in Goodfellas, when you have DeNiro and a bunch of old school wiseguys sitting around a bar in like 1975 listening to "Sunshine of Your Love". Not so sure about that one.

It would be funny to see a list of other ridiculously unbelievable karaoke/jukebox scenes like that from movies.

I always questioned (but enjoyed) the idea of a bunch of rough and tumble baltimore cops getting drunk to the Pogues in The Wire.

The biggest headscratcher for me was Nick Sobotka's Palace Music poster. 

Bonnie Prince Billy is pretty huge in stevedore circles.
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Post by: Martin on August 28, 2009, 04:38:58 PM
I watched Andrea Arnold's FISH TANK. Pretty good stuff, deserved of the praise it got in Cannes. Rough stuff - dark social realism to the max. The 15-y-o girl who plays the lead (amateur, natch) is pretty fantastic, and she gets good backing, especially from Michael Fassbender as her mom's boyfriend. The cinematography is interesting for two reasons: first, it conjures up small delicate poetic moments, just brief glimpses of something magical in that dreary everyday life - reminded me of Lynne Ramsay in a sense. Second, and this felt weird at first: it's shot in what must be 4:3. Very odd these days, must've been an aesthetic choice, but it pays off. Anyway, looks great. Or as great as a rotten tenement building in Liverpool? Manchester? can look.

It's playing at TIFF and probably elsewhere soon - I recommend it. It's not masterful - a bit too long, some contrived moments, some superfluous scenes seemingly only there to humiliate the characters and hammer home the point that they are indeed poor and live awful lives. Also there's a discussion to be had re Arnold's viewpoint - is she simply seeing the world as a bleak and desperate place without hope, or is she actually looking down on the poor underclass and implying that they basically have nothing to live for and have little or no happiness in their lives?
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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on August 28, 2009, 05:52:35 PM
watching on hulu, RiP!, about mashups: http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto

the subject is Girl Talk (to which im indifferent).
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 04, 2009, 10:52:33 PM
Just saw Ponyo with the kids. THUMBS UP.

Insane and beautiful.
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Post by: Reeleyes on September 04, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
Saw District 9 the other night. It was fairly original and mostly awesome.
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Post by: Mark in Helsinki on September 05, 2009, 05:23:58 AM
Saw some clips of the new Bad Lieutenant yesterday. Nicky Cage and Werner Herzog were in Venice to promote it at the film festival, and it looks pretty weird - not sure if it's good weird.
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Post by: buffcoat on September 05, 2009, 05:18:48 PM
Saw District 9 the other night. It was fairly original and mostly awesome.

I would agree with this.  It was almost completely different from any movie I've seen in the past 10 years - the bullshit that was in it was different from the bullshit in other movies.


It was hard to get used to the name "Wikus."
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Post by: Reeleyes on September 05, 2009, 06:32:01 PM
Saw District 9 the other night. It was fairly original and mostly awesome.

I would agree with this.  It was almost completely different from any movie I've seen in the past 10 years - the bullshit that was in it was different from the bullshit in other movies.


It was hard to get used to the name "Wikus."

Yeah and it was weird to call an alien Christopher Johnson when he clearly looked like a Solomon Tidelbaum.
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Post by: buffcoat on September 05, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Saw District 9 the other night. It was fairly original and mostly awesome.

I would agree with this.  It was almost completely different from any movie I've seen in the past 10 years - the bullshit that was in it was different from the bullshit in other movies.


It was hard to get used to the name "Wikus."

Yeah and it was weird to call an alien Christopher Johnson when he clearly looked like a Solomon Tidelbaum.

I kept thinking, who is this guy Vickers everyone keeps talking about?



Also, I have to say: Christopher Johnson, saving his people or no, really gave Vickers a raw deal.  Shame on you, CJ.
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Post by: Chris L on September 05, 2009, 11:29:40 PM
STILL WALKING by Hirokazu Kore-eda (After Life, Nobody Knows) is an excellent, subtle family drama... OZU-STYLE!!!  8)  It's running on IFC On Demand and Criterion will release it next year as part of their deal w/ them. 
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Post by: orator on September 05, 2009, 11:49:11 PM
What's Ozu?
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Post by: Chris L on September 06, 2009, 12:42:37 AM
What's Ozu?

Only the most extreme, kickass director of them all.

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_au0oAl5c0M4/SHJT0cxYM6I/AAAAAAAAAd0/Uxo4icUl6u0/s320/ozu2.jpg)
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Post by: orator on September 06, 2009, 02:26:37 AM
What's your favorite, or maybe something good for a beginner, of this most kickass and extreme director?
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Post by: Martin on September 06, 2009, 05:25:29 AM
What's your favorite, or maybe something good for a beginner, of this most kickass and extreme director?

Hello, my name is Chris L. I would start with his most revered, Tokyo Story, which by the way totally ripped off Leo McCarey's Make Way for Tomorrow. Ozu's film got all the accolades while MWFT is almost forgotten now.
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Post by: orator on September 06, 2009, 08:17:10 AM
Cool. Thanks, Chr-... Hey!
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Post by: Chris L on September 06, 2009, 09:38:02 AM
Oh hiiiii, I'm Martin.  Just for that, Setsuko Hara is going to cheerfully smash several teapots over my head.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3286138785_021d7d636d_m.jpg)

Just like Ozu (apparently), I've never seen Make Way For Tomorrow, although it is on youtube.   But yes, Tokyo Story frequently lands in the top 5 or top 10 on greatest film lists.  It's not like it's his only film to deal w/ rifts between parents and children either.  Late Spring is very nearly as good.  
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Post by: orator on September 06, 2009, 12:10:59 PM
Saw District 9 last night. It was pretty amazing and depressing. Hope it wins some awards, particularly Copley. Crazy for a first acting role. Well, second. I think he was an extra in Alive In Joburg.

Also crazy is the 30 mil budget in light of James Cameron's 200 million (or was it 400 now?) furry dream.
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Post by: Martin on September 06, 2009, 07:17:46 PM
Good old Werner is in Venice promoting the Bad Lieutenant maybe-remake:

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[...]according to critic Todd McCarthy, of Variety, the movie lacked the depth and resonance of the original. "The film is offbeat, silly, disarming and loopy all at the same time," he wrote.

Herzog proudly took the credit for most of this loopiness, eagerly pointing out that the eccentric fantasy scenes featuring a pair of live iguanas were his own invention. "I always like to cast animals in my films, and iguanas are so stupid and bizarre I just love them," he said. "I don't know why I did it. But they are the best moments in the film."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/sep/04/directors-clash-film-remake-venice
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Post by: Omar on September 07, 2009, 03:32:27 PM
Oh hiiiii, I'm Martin.  Just for that, Setsuko Hara is going to cheerfully smash several teapots over my head.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3286138785_021d7d636d_m.jpg)

Just like Ozu (apparently), I've never seen Make Way For Tomorrow, although it is on youtube.   But yes, Tokyo Story frequently lands in the top 5 or top 10 on greatest film lists.  It's not like it's his only film to deal w/ rifts between parents and children either.  Late Spring is very nearly as good.  

Avoid any temptation to view MWFT on YouTube since it's coming from Criterion.
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Post by: Martin on September 07, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
Indeed. And it's good, better than Tokyo Story (although I'm not nuts about either of them - I know some very serious cinephiles who would put MWFT on a top-five-of-all-times list).
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Post by: fletcher munson on September 07, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
Final Destination 3-D, wickedly good.
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Post by: Matt on September 07, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
I saw SOUL POWER today. It was great. It's the kind of movie that could save the world.
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Post by: Chris L on October 08, 2009, 10:30:58 AM
Recently watched David Mamet’s HOMICIDE, which find him just about in House of Games form and follows Joe Mantegna as a weary detective who falls in with a militant Zionist group.  I gather this strain of Mamet’s work is none too popular but this is a case where you don’t have to sign on to his ideas to find the movie compelling.  Besides Mantegna, William H. Macy and Ricky Jay are on hand, although so is Rebecca Pidgeon (seeming freaky to me, as usual)

This is also the first Criterion release I’ve ever seen with a gag reel (!).  Long overdue, if you ask me.  Surely there must have been some funny mishaps on those samurai films.
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Post by: masterofsparks on October 08, 2009, 10:56:21 AM
This is also the first Criterion release I’ve ever seen with a gag reel (!).  Long overdue, if you ask me.  Surely there must have been some funny mishaps on those samurai films.


I don't even want to think about a Salo gag reel.
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Post by: Martin on October 08, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
I haven't seen HOMICIDE in years, but I liked it then so I might pick up the Criterion... a gag reel sounds fun.
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Post by: jbissell on October 08, 2009, 02:40:50 PM
This is also the first Criterion release I’ve ever seen with a gag reel (!).  Long overdue, if you ask me.  Surely there must have been some funny mishaps on those samurai films.


I don't even want to think about a Salo gag reel.

Is this dog shit? You guys got me good!
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Post by: jamesp on October 09, 2009, 09:51:11 AM
Recently watched David Mamet’s HOMICIDE, which find him just about in House of Games form and follows Joe Mantegna as a weary detective who falls in with a militant Zionist group.  I gather this strain of Mamet’s work is none too popular but this is a case where you don’t have to sign on to his ideas to find the movie compelling.  Besides Mantegna, William H. Macy and Ricky Jay are on hand, although so is Rebecca Pidgeon (seeming freaky to me, as usual)

This is also the first Criterion release I’ve ever seen with a gag reel (!).  Long overdue, if you ask me.  Surely there must have been some funny mishaps on those samurai films.


I just watched this on Wednesday! I liked it and was entertained but what exactly is the message that Mamet's trying to send about anti-Semitism? He's always confusing me.
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Post by: Pat K on October 09, 2009, 10:56:58 AM
I saw SOUL POWER today. It was great. It's the kind of movie that could save the world.

I'm so mad that I missed this when it came through my town. I really wanted to see me some Bill Withers. He was pretty hilarious on The Sound of Young America recently.
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Post by: Steve in North Hollywood on October 10, 2009, 05:46:31 AM
I really need to remember to check the General Discussion, and this thread a lot more often.  I saw EVERYTHING this summer, and forgot to share.

Do feel free to ask!
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Post by: masterofsparks on October 11, 2009, 03:32:54 PM
I saw Zombieland today. Very enjoyable and funny, though I wish I hadn't had the cameo ruined.
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Post by: JustNicole on October 11, 2009, 03:35:59 PM
I saw "It Might Get Loud" this afternoon.  I thought it was ok. 
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Post by: crumbum on October 12, 2009, 10:54:56 AM
Midnight showing of 'Paranormal Activity' on Saturday. For me it lived up to the hype; it scared the bejeezus out of me and the whole crowd was genuinely into it (real fear, none of the usual midnight movie hooting/ironic screams). It is so simple and stripped down it almost feels more like a piece of conceptual art at times, and so obvious in a sense you wonder how no one has done this before. I predict this thing will rake it in on word of mouth.
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Post by: bakersfieldchimp on October 12, 2009, 11:39:07 AM
I watched Antichrist last night, and... uh... yeah. It managed to be engrossing, unsettling and disturbing all at the same time. I don't think I'd want to watch it again, but I can't stop thinking about it.
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Post by: jamesp on October 14, 2009, 10:45:25 PM
I saw Zombieland today. Very enjoyable and funny, though I wish I hadn't had the cameo ruined.

Same here. I only glance at reviews before I see the movie yet I still had it ruined for me by reviewers. The cameo was still awesome though.
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Post by: Pat K on October 15, 2009, 12:17:40 PM
I finally was able to sit down with all 4+ hours of Soderbergh's Che over the long weekend and loved every minute of it. Maybe it's not for everybody, but as for me, I like my history dry as toast. This had pretty much everything I want from a historical biopic - minimal context, almost no flashbacks, no conceits to the usual biopic cliches and standards, super dry. Just striving to give the experience of what it would be like to be looking over this dude's shoulder during this certain historical period in time.

Also, insanely beautiful cinematography by Soderbergh on this one - gorgeous landscapes and natural scenes one after another. Really made me sorry I missed it on the big screen during the week it played my town.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 17, 2009, 09:09:33 PM
I do not expect to get anyone here to see a kid's movie (unless you have kids), but "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs" was a hoot.  Both my son and I were laughing hysterically and I had to remove my 3-D glasses over and over to get the tears out of my eyes. My son looked up at me and yelled with complete joy "THIS IS NONSENSE!" It was, and that was a good thing.

I will make only one pitch to get you to see it: There is a spoof of a viral internet video that has a kitten rapping "Fight The Power" with a bunch of ducklings behind him.

Now do as you must: Ignore this post and get back to talking about Fassbinder or whatever-the-fuck.
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Post by: masterofsparks on October 17, 2009, 09:59:48 PM
I've heard really excellent review of Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs from reputable critics. Based on the trailers, I had no interest in seeing this, but after hearing glowing review after glowing review, I'm now interested.
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Post by: Martin on October 17, 2009, 11:39:05 PM
I've only heard great things about CWACOM. Really want to see it.
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Post by: ChrisRawk on October 18, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
I agree with the fellow above, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY was pretty amazing.  Easily the best horror movie I've seen in years, lots of genuine, honest to goodness scares.  There's no way this won't be huge.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 18, 2009, 04:22:20 PM
I've heard really excellent review of Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs from reputable critics. Based on the trailers, I had no interest in seeing this, but after hearing glowing review after glowing review, I'm now interested.
I've only heard great things about CWACOM. Really want to see it.

I mean, yes, it IS a kid's movie, but it is beautiful to look at and funny and - as it gets to the climax - utterly insane.  Bruce Campbell and Mr. T do some very good voice over work as well.
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Post by: jbissell on October 18, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 18, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on October 18, 2009, 07:41:39 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

Also loved Karen O's contribution to the perfect soundtrack.
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Post by: JustNicole on October 18, 2009, 08:34:45 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

Also loved Karen O's contribution to the perfect soundtrack.

I agree with you Dave.  I loved it.  This was not a book that was read to me as a nighttime story, but I have read it many times over the years and, after working with children for so many years, it spoke to me a lot.  Loved it from opening credits on.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 18, 2009, 09:03:45 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

Also loved Karen O's contribution to the perfect soundtrack.

I did not find it depressing. The problem was that it was not fun. At all.

That does not mean it was bad.  As my daughter just said to me "It doesn't have to be fun to be good."  Amen, sweetheart. 

The soap opera Max walks into on the island makes me think the film was made by Spike, not Spike Jonze.

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Post by: jbissell on October 19, 2009, 10:42:38 AM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

I agree with most of what you're saying here. Re: the ending, I loved it but I guess I saw it as a little more ambiguous, like things are better for now, but how long will it last?
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Post by: dave from knoxville on October 19, 2009, 11:35:03 AM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

I agree with most of what you're saying here. Re: the ending, I loved it but I guess I saw it as a little more ambiguous, like things are better for now, but how long will it last?

YES! EXACTLY! Life's never perfect; hang on to the little moments that are! That's one of the important messages of the entire film for me; you can't keep the bad stuff out, but that's no excuse to overlook joyful moments. And it delivers this notion in as maudlin-free non-sentimental way as it can be truthfully delivered. How false would it ring if you were left with the idea that everything's been resolved and from now on all will be well? THAT would have pissed me off.

Sorry, guess I sound like an evangelist.
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Post by: jbissell on October 19, 2009, 01:48:55 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

I agree with most of what you're saying here. Re: the ending, I loved it but I guess I saw it as a little more ambiguous, like things are better for now, but how long will it last?

YES! EXACTLY! Life's never perfect; hang on to the little moments that are! That's one of the important messages of the entire film for me; you can't keep the bad stuff out, but that's no excuse to overlook joyful moments. And it delivers this notion in as maudlin-free non-sentimental way as it can be truthfully delivered. How false would it ring if you were left with the idea that everything's been resolved and from now on all will be well? THAT would have pissed me off.

Sorry, guess I sound like an evangelist.

It's ok, we're on the same page here.
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Post by: gravy boat on October 19, 2009, 03:37:13 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

I agree with most of what you're saying here. Re: the ending, I loved it but I guess I saw it as a little more ambiguous, like things are better for now, but how long will it last?

YES! EXACTLY! Life's never perfect; hang on to the little moments that are! That's one of the important messages of the entire film for me; you can't keep the bad stuff out, but that's no excuse to overlook joyful moments. And it delivers this notion in as maudlin-free non-sentimental way as it can be truthfully delivered. How false would it ring if you were left with the idea that everything's been resolved and from now on all will be well? THAT would have pissed me off.

Sorry, guess I sound like an evangelist.

It's ok, we're on the same page here.

Saw it with my 4.5 year old this weekend. I loved it; he was more "meh." Agree with DFK and jbissell - perfect ending. The filmmakers could have done a lot wrong there but I thought they nailed it so well.  What I particularly loved was that the communication was non-verbal.

I like that the movie had its sad and complicated parts. The little guy wanted things more black and white.  "Was Carol a good guy?"  "Well, yes, and no..."   

He's young. He'll learn. So will I.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 19, 2009, 04:29:07 PM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

I agree with most of what you're saying here. Re: the ending, I loved it but I guess I saw it as a little more ambiguous, like things are better for now, but how long will it last?

YES! EXACTLY! Life's never perfect; hang on to the little moments that are! That's one of the important messages of the entire film for me; you can't keep the bad stuff out, but that's no excuse to overlook joyful moments. And it delivers this notion in as maudlin-free non-sentimental way as it can be truthfully delivered. How false would it ring if you were left with the idea that everything's been resolved and from now on all will be well? THAT would have pissed me off.

Sorry, guess I sound like an evangelist.

It's ok, we're on the same page here.

Saw it with my 4.5 year old this weekend. I loved it; he was more "meh." Agree with DFK and jbissell - perfect ending. The filmmakers could have done a lot wrong there but I thought they nailed it so well.  What I particularly loved was that the communication was non-verbal.

I like that the movie had its sad and complicated parts. The little guy wanted things more black and white.  "Was Carol a good guy?"  "Well, yes, and no..."   

He's young. He'll learn. So will I.

Well put, Gravy Boat. This was the response of my kids and of me.  I would only add what I mentioned earlier: I wish there was more Id when he arrived at the island to balance out all the Superego going on there.
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Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on October 23, 2009, 01:30:29 AM
Zombieland was fun with a capital F.

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Post by: Phil on October 23, 2009, 01:56:19 AM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

Also loved Karen O's contribution to the perfect soundtrack.

I agree with you Dave.  I loved it.  This was not a book that was read to me as a nighttime story, but I have read it many times over the years and, after working with children for so many years, it spoke to me a lot.  Loved it from opening credits on.


I thought it was great. A little melancholy, but not depressing. My 4 year-old liked it too. I remember finding the monsters in the book both appealing and a little scary as a small kid, and the movie nailed that aspect of it. I also left thinking it might be the most realistic interpretation of being a small boy I've seen in a film. Max's random, hyper-ambitious plan for the fort was a perfect example of the behavior I see in my own kid, and my friend's kids, all the time. And when Max was playing alone throughout the first part of the movie, the mood felt very familiar. Something like what I remember experiencing myself as a kid. I thought it was pretty amazing.
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Post by: masterofsparks on October 23, 2009, 06:28:46 AM
Where the Wild Things Are was pretty depressing but I still liked it a lot.  The design of the wild things was absolutely wonderful.  There were a couple parts that dragged but there were plenty of lovely moments that made it well worth it.

Just saw it. Agreed. Not what I would call "fun."  But certainly lovely.

I have heard a lot of people say they found it depressing; it has moments of real sadness, but I am confused that people feel depressed about it. I was so excited to have a child-based movie (at least ostensibly) not end with a trite happy resolution, and I thought the last scene was absolutely perfect. I felt like I could walk on air when it finished.

Also loved Karen O's contribution to the perfect soundtrack.

I agree with you Dave.  I loved it.  This was not a book that was read to me as a nighttime story, but I have read it many times over the years and, after working with children for so many years, it spoke to me a lot.  Loved it from opening credits on.


I thought it was great. A little melancholy, but not depressing. My 4 year-old liked it too. I remember finding the monsters in the book both appealing and a little scary as a small kid, and the movie nailed that aspect of it. I also left thinking it might be the most realistic interpretation of being a small boy I've seen in a film. Max's random, hyper-ambitious plan for the fort was a perfect example of the behavior I see in my own kid, and my friend's kids, all the time. And when Max was playing alone throughout the first part of the movie, the mood felt very familiar. Something like what I remember experiencing myself as a kid. I thought it was pretty amazing.

Phil, either you or Steve in North Hollywood needs to change your avatar. TOO CONFUSING.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Phil on October 23, 2009, 09:07:22 AM
Phil, either you or Steve in North Hollywood needs to change your avatar. TOO CONFUSING.

Better?
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Post by: Christina on October 23, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
Phil, either you or Steve in North Hollywood needs to change your avatar. TOO CONFUSING.

Better?

oh, that's better than better. I love it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on October 24, 2009, 11:20:28 AM
I saw 'A Serious Man' one week ago and it's taken me this long to decide I like it. My first reaction was to dismiss it based almost solely on the last two or three minutes, which seemed to undercut the philosophical point of the rest of the film.

Normally I wouldn't hold Coen bros. movies to any kind of moral standard but this time they're practically begging to have the movie read on that level -- it's all about Man's relationship to God (or the Universe or fate or whatever, if you like) and the inability of humans to comprehend God's desires or intentions, and whether you should continue to try to do good in the face of a senselessly cruel world. That's how I read it anyhow, and then we get to the punchline which, like I said, hands us a 'moral of the story' that seems to fly in the face of everything that's come before. What really bugged me is that it's hard to tell if they mean for us to take the ending seriously or just as a sick joke. In the end I think they are serious, though. An I can respect that even if I disagree with the conclusion.

Sorry to be so opaque. If you've seen the movie you might get where I'm coming from. An I haven't even gotten into all the things I absolutely loved-- the sense of a time and place, some of the best cinematography of their careers, and few classic scenes to add to the Coens' highlight reel.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jamesp on October 25, 2009, 03:02:38 PM
Midnight showing of 'Paranormal Activity' on Saturday. For me it lived up to the hype; it scared the bejeezus out of me and the whole crowd was genuinely into it (real fear, none of the usual midnight movie hooting/ironic screams). It is so simple and stripped down it almost feels more like a piece of conceptual art at times, and so obvious in a sense you wonder how no one has done this before. I predict this thing will rake it in on word of mouth.

I feel like I'm really alone here feeling disappointed with Paranormal Activity. I'd say it was entertaining enough, but it just wasn't scary and we'll all end up forgetting it. The first-person digital camera scary movies just don't do anything for me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on October 25, 2009, 05:19:09 PM
My friend had a Tim Burton movie marathon last night and I saw his Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for the first time.  I enjoyed it.  Wish I had seen it earlier. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 25, 2009, 06:23:01 PM
Watching a bunch of 60s movies for a "60s Top 100" poll. Decided to take on the original Harry Palmer trilogy, which I hadn't seen in its entirety before: The Ipcress File, Funeral in Berlin and Billion Dollar Brain. They're all pretty dull, but the first one has a certain dry charm. Low-rent spy movies obviously(?) trying to cash in on the popularity of the Bond franchise (even though I'm not sure about the exact chronology of the two series, which are both based partly on books). But at the same time they're the anti-Bond spy thrillers, from the droll hero to the settings - when the producers decide to take the action to an exotic location they go to East Berlin and Helsinki rather than the West Indies or Japan. The movies get progressively worse, and Brain is particularly awful, with a confusing plot which is almost impossible to follow. For movie buffs it's pretty ripe with trivia bits though - it features Karl Malden as a sauna-loving, triple-crossing spy, and Ed Begley in full ham-and-cheese mode as a right-wing Texas general with a private army and a super computer. Also for some reason it was executive produced by Andre de Toth(!); and perhaps most bizarrely, it's directed by Ken Russell.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on October 25, 2009, 11:07:13 PM
Midnight showing of 'Paranormal Activity' on Saturday. For me it lived up to the hype; it scared the bejeezus out of me and the whole crowd was genuinely into it (real fear, none of the usual midnight movie hooting/ironic screams). It is so simple and stripped down it almost feels more like a piece of conceptual art at times, and so obvious in a sense you wonder how no one has done this before. I predict this thing will rake it in on word of mouth.

I feel like I'm really alone here feeling disappointed with Paranormal Activity. I'd say it was entertaining enough, but it just wasn't scary and we'll all end up forgetting it. The first-person digital camera scary movies just don't do anything for me.

Yeah, I had these same sort of discussions with friends when Blair Witch came out. It seems that this type of film really either pushes your buttons or it doesn't. I suppose to an extent it just depends on what you bring to it as far as your own fears and anxieties. The meat of this movie is all in the scenes where the couple is asleep -- a genius idea because for me it goes directly to that childhood experience of being alone in the bedroom at night staring at the darkened doorway, waiting for something to pop out. I could hardly look at the screen during most of those parts. But I'll admit the rest of the movie is really just filler around them.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on October 26, 2009, 07:02:16 AM
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/gaughin/arts-amelia-584.jpg)

If you liked him as Buddy Holly, you will LOVE him as.....AMELIA
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Post by: buffcoat on October 26, 2009, 08:39:43 PM
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee183/gaughin/arts-amelia-584.jpg)

If you liked him as Buddy Holly, you will LOVE him as.....AMELIA



Ouch.  But I'm getting a little tired of her.*
















*Despite the fact that I have never seen a Hilary Swank movie.
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Post by: Chris L on October 26, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
*Despite the fact that I have never seen a Hilary Swank movie.

This is her, I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T2S8GHzxqc
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on October 26, 2009, 09:16:51 PM
She frightened me in the picture thread, but now I understand the breasts.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: ChrisRawk on October 27, 2009, 09:26:21 AM
I watched 'Anvil! The Story of Anvil' the other day.  If you've ever been a frustrated musician, as I have, it will strike a deep chord. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on October 27, 2009, 11:20:14 AM
Anvil is on our 'to be watched soon' list.

I'm on an Audrey Hepburn kick. I watched 'Charade' and 'How to Steal a Million' Now I'm on to 'Two for the Road.'   
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 27, 2009, 12:48:56 PM
Last night I saw "Dreams with Sharp Teeth", a documentary about Harlan Ellison, a writer who was very important to me from ages 17-25 or so. As expected, he's sort of a prick, but a frequently insightful one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on October 27, 2009, 06:18:43 PM
I watched 'Anvil! The Story of Anvil' the other day.  If you've ever been a frustrated musician, as I have, it will strike a deep chord. 
Been meaning to watch this.  Thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on October 27, 2009, 06:31:41 PM
Anvil was pretty good. The trailers made it out to be something like American Movie but it was just kind of depressing without the funny. But still good.

Somebody mentioned Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs- I got the chance to see it in Imax 3D and that was the best theater experience I've ever had. 3D has sure come a long way and it's way more than a gimmick, it's a whole new way to watch movies. I will definitely be seeing The Christmas Carol in Imax 3D.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on October 27, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
I will definitely be seeing The Christmas Carol in Imax 3D.

I dunno about that one. From the team that brought you Polar Express? I didn't see it in 3D, but I did see it, and it was loooong and boring.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on October 27, 2009, 07:22:55 PM
Somebody mentioned Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs- I got the chance to see it in Imax 3D and that was the best theater experience I've ever had. 3D has sure come a long way and it's way more than a gimmick, it's a whole new way to watch movies.

In the right hands 3D can be great (Coraline), but most of the time it's totally unnecessary.  I saw the Toy Story 3D double feature and it added absolutely nothing to the first one.  The second one was a little better, mostly because you could really see the advancement in the animation but still wasn't really worth the extra cost.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on October 27, 2009, 08:27:13 PM
It's a totally different ballgame when the movie is made for 3D. Go see Cloudy W/ a Chance of Meatballs in Imax 3D and you'll have a different opinion of 3D movies- The whole movie is literally right in front of your face.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on October 27, 2009, 11:38:59 PM
It's a totally different ballgame when the movie is made for 3D. Go see Cloudy W/ a Chance of Meatballs in Imax 3D and you'll have a different opinion of 3D movies- The whole movie is literally right in front of your face.

I'm sure that's the case, the reason I appreciated it with Coraline was exactly for that reason - it was used to add to the atmosphere of the film, not just for pointing things at the audience, which is how the majority of 3D films still approach things.  I have found that 3D tends to have a negative effect on the color of the film.  Up wasn't nearly as pretty looking in 3D.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: ChrisRawk on October 28, 2009, 08:35:27 AM
Yeah, Anvil is a little on the depressing side.  It's like if Spinal Tap was remade into an indie drama.  There's even a 'Robb Reiner'! 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on October 28, 2009, 10:14:10 AM
Yeah, Anvil is a little on the depressing side.  It's like if Spinal Tap was remade into an indie drama.  There's even a 'Robb Reiner'! 

When I went on opening night in Toronto (as opposed to the 'official' premiere which had happened a few weeks earlier) the director, the band and a lot of their friends were there. We came to the late show when most of those people were leaving, but Lips and Robb and a few of their pals stuck around for the whole second show and answered questions and posed for photos afterwards. They were exactly as presented in the film (right down to Robb's leather fannypack). Seeing those guys in person and how genuinely enthusiastic and open-hearted they are changed my reaction to the movie from mild depression to puzzled admiration.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on October 28, 2009, 10:37:57 AM
I just saw Moon.  It was far from perfect, but at least it was a *real* science fiction movie and not just an outer space adventure.

I can't get over the fact that the Pop Will Eat Itself guy is now a respected soundtrack composer.  I keep expecting him to bust in and start rapping about comic books and McDonald's.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on October 28, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
I just saw Moon.  It was far from perfect, but at least it was a *real* science fiction movie and not just an outer space adventure.

I can't get over the fact that the Pop Will Eat Itself guy is now a respected soundtrack composer.  I keep expecting him to bust in and start rapping about comic books and McDonald's.

M-O-O-N spells moon.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 28, 2009, 03:45:33 PM
I just saw Moon.  It was far from perfect, but at least it was a *real* science fiction movie and not just an outer space adventure.

I can't get over the fact that the Pop Will Eat Itself guy is now a respected soundtrack composer.  I keep expecting him to bust in and start rapping about comic books and McDonald's.

M-O-O-N spells moon.

Was that a Stephen King reference?!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: ChrisRawk on October 28, 2009, 07:32:31 PM
Yeah, Anvil is a little on the depressing side.  It's like if Spinal Tap was remade into an indie drama.  There's even a 'Robb Reiner'! 

When I went on opening night in Toronto (as opposed to the 'official' premiere which had happened a few weeks earlier) the director, the band and a lot of their friends were there. We came to the late show when most of those people were leaving, but Lips and Robb and a few of their pals stuck around for the whole second show and answered questions and posed for photos afterwards. They were exactly as presented in the film (right down to Robb's leather fannypack). Seeing those guys in person and how genuinely enthusiastic and open-hearted they are changed my reaction to the movie from mild depression to puzzled admiration.

Oh I believe it.  They do seem like great guys, so you're rooting for them the whole time.  I really admired and liked them throughout the film and I loved that it ended on a bit of a bright note for them.  I've gone through some of my own struggles in the music world so I related somewhat.  What they've gone through over the years...damn.  But things ultimately seemed to end up well for them, so that's cool. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jamesp on November 01, 2009, 12:28:15 AM
I will definitely be seeing The Christmas Carol in Imax 3D.

I dunno about that one. From the team that brought you Polar Express? I didn't see it in 3D, but I did see it, and it was loooong and boring.

Yeah, 3D doesn't matter if the movie's just going to be plain awful. I've seen the TV ads and the trailer before a few movies and I love how there's seriously been no mention of Bob Cratchet's family or even the three ghosts. It just looks like an ugly Scrooge flying around and bumping into shit.

I'm also confused about Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. The trailers and posters are making it look like it's going to be The Mad Hatter feat. Alice in Wonderland.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 01, 2009, 01:00:36 AM
I'm laid up with the H1N1 so my wife and I skipped Halloween parties to check out our Netflix offerings. Apparently one of her professors told her something called "Funny Games" is a great movie to check out so that's what we watched -

(http://jet0425.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny_games.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119167/

I have to say it wasn't as funny as the title suggested.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 01, 2009, 08:39:46 AM
A Serious Man just opened here, so I saw that. I'm still digesting it, but I think I liked it. LOVED the ending.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 02, 2009, 01:00:39 AM
Jeezis, Cutout, I'm sorry.  Swine Flu AND Michael Haneke.  I hope that if there's a third bad thing on its way, it's mild and/or funny, like Klaus Kinski returning from the dead, pissing on your lawn, shouting, and walking away.  (Incidentally, I liked The Piano Teacher, much in the same way I liked episode 2 of the Therese/Mike show).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 02, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
Not a big Haneke fan (I have serious issues with almost all of his films), but his latest, The White Ribbon, is probably my favorite film of the year so far.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 02, 2009, 07:37:32 AM
I avoided Funny Games because everything I've read about it suggested I ought to. Same with Benny's Video. But I really, really liked Cache, and Code Unknown, and Time of the Wolf is one of my all-time favourites.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 02, 2009, 12:57:58 PM
Thanks Jason. I'm a movie dummy who'd never heard of the director or the movie. Something about the title treatments and John Zorn at the beginning made me think I was in for something campy  :'(
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Post by: Pat K on November 02, 2009, 04:07:12 PM
A Serious Man just opened here, so I saw that. I'm still digesting it, but I think I liked it. LOVED the ending.

The ending and the prologue both took my breath away. Like No Country For Old Men, there's so much going on that it's going to take a while for me to totally wrap my head around it, but I'm still going to say that I loved it. These guys have successfully found a whole new gear to throw themselves into.

And can we go ahead and give Roger Deakins the Presidential Medal of Freedom already? That dude is as good as it gets, straight up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 02, 2009, 07:14:13 PM
And can we go ahead and give Roger Deakins the Presidential Medal of Freedom already? That dude is as good as it gets, straight up.

That final shot of the sky is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 02, 2009, 10:20:26 PM
Saw 'An Education' tonight. Fun little movie. Nick Hornby wrote the script from someone else's coming-of-age-in-the-60s memoir.

Don't tell Laurie, but Peter Sarsgaard is looking a little doughy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on November 03, 2009, 08:18:36 AM
That final shot of the sky is pretty amazing.

Hell yeah. I'm so glad I caught it on the big screen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 05, 2009, 05:27:59 PM
Saw Role Models last night. Saw Nate Hartley. Laughed a lot. Not going to show it to my wife, who would ground me from movies forever.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 05, 2009, 05:40:40 PM
Tried watching Army of Shadows on DVD last night. After all the praise I'd heard, I expected to love it, but found it strangely unsatisfying. It seemed to waver between being plot-driven and anecdotal, as if it couldn't make up its mind which it wanted to be. I have NO problem with movies that move slow or take their time getting to wherever it is they need to be, but this was just boring. I started checking the time about an hour in and finally turned it off after 90 minutes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on November 05, 2009, 05:49:38 PM
I'm a sucker for a horror movie if it's made decently whatsoever.  So The Orphanage was very cool and had a great story arc.  It's set in Spain in a coastal area and it's about a lady who buys the orphanage where she was raised and is sort of haunted through her terminally ill adopted son.  No cheap gags.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on November 05, 2009, 06:48:16 PM
Tried watching Army of Shadows on DVD last night. After all the praise I'd heard, I expected to love it, but found it strangely unsatisfying. It seemed to waver between being plot-driven and anecdotal, as if it couldn't make up its mind which it wanted to be. I have NO problem with movies that move slow or take their time getting to wherever it is they need to be, but this was just boring. I started checking the time about an hour in and finally turned it off after 90 minutes.

Surprised you found it boring, I got wrapped up in the story early on and never let go.  The jailbreak scene towards the end is especially wonderful, but it sounds like you gave up before then.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on November 07, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
can anyone ID any of these stills?

a
(http://www.noblesse-oblige.org/syrinxlui/triviathon/moviestills/14.jpg)

b
(http://www.noblesse-oblige.org/syrinxlui/triviathon/moviestills/16.jpg)

c
(http://www.noblesse-oblige.org/syrinxlui/triviathon/moviestills/08.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 07, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
Saw A Serious Man last night. The Coen Brothers can do no wrong for me. Their batting average for funny/weird/complicated movies is pretty exceptional.

Did anyone see The Box or Gentleman Broncos last night?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: eastgrandforks on November 07, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
can anyone ID any of these stills?

C might be Aguirre, Wrath of God?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 07, 2009, 03:44:24 PM
Saw A Serious Man last night. The Coen Brothers can do no wrong for me. Their batting average for funny/weird/complicated movies is pretty exceptional.

Did anyone see The Box or Gentleman Broncos last night?

Heading out to see  Gentlemen Broncos tonight. I really, really didn't like Napolean Dynamite, and found Nacho Libre mediocre, but something tells me this one has potential. At the very least Jemaine Clement looks funny in the previews.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 07, 2009, 03:46:44 PM
The Box is terrible.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on November 07, 2009, 03:49:32 PM
can anyone ID any of these stills?

C might be Aguirre, Wrath of God?

I think the answers are:

the original Payback
28 Days Later
Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 07, 2009, 04:16:06 PM
The Box is terrible.

Not surprised, I guess. Ebert's review had given me hope.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 07, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
The Box is terrible.

Not surprised, I guess. Ebert's review had given me hope.

That's weird.  Ebert is never wrong. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 08, 2009, 12:02:21 PM
Saw A Serious Man last night. The Coen Brothers can do no wrong for me. Their batting average for funny/weird/complicated movies is pretty exceptional.

Did anyone see The Box or Gentleman Broncos last night?

Heading out to see  Gentlemen Broncos tonight. I really, really didn't like Napolean Dynamite, and found Nacho Libre mediocre, but something tells me this one has potential. At the very least Jemaine Clement looks funny in the previews.

Follow-up report: I was right about Jemaine Clement, and there are half a dozen funny scenes involving Sam Rockwell playing the titular Bronco, but otherwise it's the same old crap I hated in that director's other movies. Everyone is a hopeless freak and we're meant to laugh at as they stare off into space with dumb expressions on their faces. Plus the whole movie is essentially based on the notion that sci-fi is all about giving expression to your most deranged repressed longings in the form of childish allegories.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on November 08, 2009, 07:16:31 PM
I knew too much about Paranormal Activity's budget so I was itemizing the cost of everything throughout the whole movie.  The movie creates so much tension from just great pacing that it ends up really working.  The audience was pretty freaked out.  I've been watching horror movies for two months straight but this thing is def. haunting the fuck out of me (like when I got home that night).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 09, 2009, 09:36:42 AM
Watched "Anvil: The Story of Anvil" last night. I expected nothing more than a real-life Spinal Tap. I was surprised when it turned out to be quite touching. When Lips said "Family is some important shit" I almost wept.  Look out Noam Chomsky...Lips may be my new hero!

By the way: Is it just coincidence that the drummer's name is Robb Reiner?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on November 09, 2009, 10:00:39 AM

By the way: Is it just coincidence that the drummer's name is Robb Reiner?

Yes. They've said in interviews that coincidence was one of the Spinal Tap similarities that lead them to embrace the connection early on in the film to draw in the audience and then hit them with the real story of Lips and Robb's great friendship.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 09, 2009, 10:24:28 AM
The other night I opted to go back into an Ann Taylor Loft outlet store rather than wait on line in the cold to see Where The Wild Things Are.  Did I make a good decision?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: B_Buster on November 09, 2009, 10:50:10 AM
I watched Anvil over the weekend as well. For me the saddest moment was when Lips was doing his vocal take during the recording of This Is Thirteen and he was belting out some of the stupidest lyrics I think I've ever heard. I know people don't go to heavy metal for the lyrics, but as long as that's where they're setting the bar, heavy metal will never be popular again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on November 09, 2009, 12:14:25 PM
I watched Anvil over the weekend as well. For me the saddest moment was when Lips was doing his vocal take during the recording of This Is Thirteen and he was belting out some of the stupidest lyrics I think I've ever heard. I know people don't go to heavy metal for the lyrics, but as long as that's where they're setting the bar, heavy metal will never be popular again.

Idiotic post.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on November 09, 2009, 12:18:10 PM

the stupidest lyrics

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on November 10, 2009, 02:55:21 PM
Later tonight, against my better judgement, I'm going to give Andrei Tarkovsky one more chance to wow me by checking out Solaris at my local theatre.  I've seen about four of his movies, and despite all the rapturous praise I hear about them, they've never done anything for me. Yet year after year I keep crawling back, like a battered arthouse wife - maybe this one will be different, maybe if I give that one just one more shot, etc. 

And I've even seen Solaris before and didn't like it one bit.  But there's still that nagging guilt: maybe it's me, maybe  I'm Just Not Getting It, maybe if I see it on the big screen...you know how it goes.  So there I'll be in the audience tonight once again, a glutton for punishment, trying to figure out the seemingly-arbitrary changes between color and black&white, trying to parce the significance of that interminable 10-minute "driving through the city of the future" sequence, trying to keep my eyes open as the same three Russian dudes wander silently around the same 3 sets.  Is it really just me, or are there any other FOT out there who just don't get this guy?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on November 10, 2009, 03:52:24 PM
 

I loved the beginning scenes of Andrei Rublev and liked most of Solaris.  But, yeah, most of his other stuff makes me feel like I've got ants in my pants.  Stalker in particular.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 10, 2009, 04:12:46 PM
I liked the two Tarkovsky movies I've seen. I think all slow movies benefit from being seen in a cinema - it just forces you to take it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 10, 2009, 04:16:16 PM
I like Solaris. I tried Andrei Rublev but had to turn it off because I couldn't stomach the animal cruelty. I haven't tried anything else since AR - it really left me with little desire to see anything else he's done.

I'll stand by Solaris, though. And although Tarkovsky nerds will probably call this heresy, I kinda like Steven Soderbergh's version as well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 10, 2009, 06:10:48 PM
I've only seen Solaris and Andrei Rublev, but I did like both.  Though I fell asleep 20 minutes into both of them at least 5 times before I finally made it through.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 10, 2009, 07:06:58 PM
I've seen woefully little Tark (as all cinefiles call him), and because of my lukewarm reactions to the few I've seen (Solaris, Ivan's Childhood), I haven't actively pursued more. I do have copies of Stalker and Andrei Rublev laying around so I'll get to them eventually. He's definitely an acquired taste - Pat K, you're patience is admirable.

Seen four movies today (my one big achievement - moviewatching is an achievement, right?). No masterpieces in sight:

Humpday (Shelton, 2009) - I know the mumblecore people haven't written an aesthetic dogme manifesto or anything (and they hate to be lumped together under that unfair banner), but would it kill you to get some decent lighting or camera equipment or compositions up in this motherfucker? Also, the premise is shaky at best. Has it moments.
Zombieland (Fleischer, 2009) - I can't stand that Eisenberg kid, what a bore. And either he plays the exact same character as in Adventureland (in which case the credits should've said "based on characters by Greg Mottola" or something), or he's a very limited actor. I suspect it's both!
Jennifer's Body (Kusama, 2009) - Like Mark Kermode said, this might prove to the best work of Megan Foxxx's career. Anyway, it's pretty silly, way better than Juno, and Amanda Seyfried is very good.
Accident (Losey, 1967) - Filling some Losey gaps as part of my upcoming 60s Top 100 listmaking. This is no Servant, but it's pretty good. At times very subtle. Harold Pinter, who wrote the script, has a great cameo as a real "Pinter character" - a bullying TV producer with rapid-fire, aggressive dialogue.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 10, 2009, 07:35:44 PM
Four movies in one day is an achievement. I thought watching three on Sunday was pretty excessive, but you have me beat!

My Sunday viewing:

Paris, Texas - Slow and overlong but saved by the riveting final 30-40 minutes.
The Limey - Didn't like it when I first saw it years ago but liked it considerably more this time. Stamp is great, Fonda reminds me of Ray Manzarek (I wonder if it was intentional? In any case, the similarity was enough that I was rooting against him), and for some reason I can't quite articulate, Luis Guzman made me laugh a lot. Again.
Catch Me If You Can - Fluffy and breezy, which is quite an achievement for a 2 1/2 hour movie. It suffers in the way that any movie following the traditional biopic structure does, but it was reasonably fun. Tom Hanks is the best part of the movie, which is honestly something I never thought I'd say.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on November 11, 2009, 09:31:25 AM
I really like Stalker, though I wouldn't have complained if they'd had to fight off an army of super mutants or something in there. Like maybe there could have been a couple of telekinetic kids in The Zone who could float around and make people's heads explode and talked with adult voices, and the stalker would have to use the The Zone against them so he and the writer and the tall guy could survive. I'm just gonna go ahead and save this for the inevitable Christian Bale-led remake.

In other news, I watched X-Men: Wolverine: Origins last weekend. Wow. I knew it was going to be awful, but not that particular brand of awful. There's a scene where it turns into Altman's Popeye, specifically the part where Wolverine has a boxing match with The Blob. I can see no other reason why they'd write and shoot a scene where Wolverine gets into a ring and has a boxing match with The Blob other than they wanted to recreate that Popeye/Fat Guy boxing match. Also, why would the one guy with a mutant power easily applied to the real world - control over all electronics - end up working at a carnival manning the shittiest of all carnival booths?

The best part of the movie was noticing that Wolverine can't grow a moustache.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: B_Buster on November 11, 2009, 09:59:43 AM

Idiotic post.


Sorry, Omar. I guess I touched a nerve. I didn't know you were one of the guys carrying the torch for Anvil.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 11, 2009, 10:00:15 AM
I thought Stalker was really mesmerizing.  That's usually the case for me with Tarko's (as he preferred to be called) movies even if I don't "get" them on first viewing (The Sacrifice is the only one I haven't cared for).  Most of the major cast and crew of Stalker including Tarkovsky were dead from cancer within ten years after shooting, and then re-shooting it from scratch, in that toxic waste dump of a location.  

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 11, 2009, 11:10:58 AM
Most of the major cast and crew of Stalker including Tarkovsky were dead from cancer within ten years after shooting, and then re-shooting it from scratch, in that toxic waste dump of a location.  



I think a similar thing happened with John Wayne's Genghis Khan biopic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: oncegompedtwiceshy on November 11, 2009, 11:51:31 AM
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/ballast/trailer
I watched Ballast last night. One of the best movies Ive seen in years.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on November 12, 2009, 02:24:56 PM
Did anybody see The Girlfriend Experience? I have my doubts about watching it and it's not something I can just pick up at the Redbox for a buck.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 12, 2009, 10:22:51 PM
The Box is terrible.

Saw it tonight, and I wouldn't go so far as to say it's terrible. I think Kelly is very gifted as a visual storyteller, and he's terrific at creating a sense of dread in the middle third. And the soundtrack is very effective. But then things get metaphysical and it all goes to hell.

There's a funny balancing act he's trying to pull off. You want that sense of things almost but never fully coming together to reveal the grand pattern behind all the creepy, confusing events -- and when that strategy works just right you get something strangely compelling in the way it frustrates your desire for closure -- like Mulholland Drive, Memento or his own Donnie Darko. He screwed it up bad in numerous ways this time, especially by including some truly laughable exposition scenes toward the end.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on November 12, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
I just started taking my 2yo to movies. I'm easing him into it at the local dollar theater. This weekend we saw G-force which I thought I might like because Zach G. is in it but it was just awful. Somewhere about 3/4 of the way through it my son looked up at me and said "Daddy, I just want to go home" I said "I don't blame you buddy" and we left. Nothing against Galifinakis, I'd have taken the check too, I just hope it was a big one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on November 13, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
Did anybody see The Girlfriend Experience? I have my doubts about watching it and it's not something I can just pick up at the Redbox for a buck.

I've been on a big Soderbergh kick lately, I just saw it. I liked it, but it is what it is. Plot-wise, it's fairly simple, just a few days in the life of the main character, but the narrative timeline gets totally deconstructed in the editing room, so you're piecing a lot of the drama together after the fact. There's no big laughs or bravura sequences or anything, but it's just another one of his neat little minor movies. If you're expecting any more than that, you might be disappointed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 13, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Did anybody see The Girlfriend Experience? I have my doubts about watching it and it's not something I can just pick up at the Redbox for a buck.

I've been on a big Soderbergh kick lately, I just saw it. I liked it, but it is what it is. Plot-wise, it's fairly simple, just a few days in the life of the main character, but the narrative timeline gets totally deconstructed in the editing room, so you're piecing a lot of the drama together after the fact. There's no big laughs or bravura sequences or anything, but it's just another one of his neat little minor movies. If you're expecting any more than that, you might be disappointed.

Sounds kinda like The Limey.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on November 13, 2009, 11:14:11 AM
Did anybody see The Girlfriend Experience? I have my doubts about watching it and it's not something I can just pick up at the Redbox for a buck.

I've been on a big Soderbergh kick lately, I just saw it. I liked it, but it is what it is. Plot-wise, it's fairly simple, just a few days in the life of the main character, but the narrative timeline gets totally deconstructed in the editing room, so you're piecing a lot of the drama together after the fact. There's no big laughs or bravura sequences or anything, but it's just another one of his neat little minor movies. If you're expecting any more than that, you might be disappointed.

Sounds kinda like The Limey.

Yeah, imagine what The Limey would have been like if instead of unraveling a murder mystery and kicking the shit out of gangsters, Terence Stamp just occassionally had sex with lonely rich dudes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 13, 2009, 07:42:56 PM
Except The Limey is a masterpiece, while The Girlfriend Exp is just good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on November 14, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Except The Limey is a masterpiece, while The Girlfriend Exp is just good.

That too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on November 15, 2009, 12:02:15 PM
Yeah, Anvil is a little on the depressing side.  It's like if Spinal Tap was remade into an indie drama.  There's even a 'Robb Reiner'! 

When I went on opening night in Toronto (as opposed to the 'official' premiere which had happened a few weeks earlier) the director, the band and a lot of their friends were there. We came to the late show when most of those people were leaving, but Lips and Robb and a few of their pals stuck around for the whole second show and answered questions and posed for photos afterwards. They were exactly as presented in the film (right down to Robb's leather fannypack). Seeing those guys in person and how genuinely enthusiastic and open-hearted they are changed my reaction to the movie from mild depression to puzzled admiration.
Oh I believe it.  They do seem like great guys, so you're rooting for them the whole time.  I really admired and liked them throughout the film and I loved that it ended on a bit of a bright note for them.  I've gone through some of my own struggles in the music world so I related somewhat.  What they've gone through over the years...damn.  But things ultimately seemed to end up well for them, so that's cool. 

Just watched this last night and really enjoyed it.  I wouldn't say it was depressing, but it did certainly show a struggle that's well known by musicians on the lower rungs of the music business, but that was part of the storytelling, and there was a lot of funny, too. The filmaker's ability to capture a lot of emotion, hope, disappointment, determination, and suffering, even of family members, I think, really worked to draw the audience in, and added a lot.  I don't think Lips' son was into his music, kind of funny.  His T-Shirt "I'M BORED, You must be talking" made my girlfriend and me laugh out loud.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 15, 2009, 12:44:43 PM

His T-Shirt "I'M BORED, You must be talking"

Me want.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on November 16, 2009, 10:16:21 AM
I watched Michael Keaton's "The Merry Gentleman" this weekend and wanted to pass along that the film contains a scene where the main characters burn a Christmas tree. The burning Christmas tree scene is also featured as the background for the film's Special Features menu.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: kittykittymeowmixhead on November 16, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/ballast/trailer
I watched Ballast last night. One of the best movies Ive seen in years.

Looks good, but depressing. I'm still trying to work up the courage to see Precious. I'm sensitive  :-\
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on November 16, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
I watched Michael Keaton's "The Merry Gentleman" this weekend and wanted to pass along that the film contains a scene where the main characters burn a Christmas tree. The burning Christmas tree scene is also featured as the background for the film's Special Features menu.

Michael Keaton?  sounds like Hollywood.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Lyle Hemmings on November 16, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMoyl7PO7Cc

Bad Lieutenant: Obnoxiously Awkward Subtitile opens this friday, Herzogonauts.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 20, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
THE TOOTH FAIRY.  There's no "Hulking up" from this one, Rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIR5bcpr-X8&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 20, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
How long can the last line in a movie trailer be?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on November 20, 2009, 10:22:39 PM
Do you think that's what Messrs Orr and Ocasek were thinking when they penned that chestnut so long ago?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on November 20, 2009, 10:39:34 PM
Do you think that's what Messrs Orr and Ocasek were thinking when they penned that chestnut so long ago?
The Cars did a song called "Tooth Fairy"?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on November 21, 2009, 02:57:55 PM
I watched Funny People last night, thought it was pretty good, although it kind of went on forever.  It seemed like there was a natural point for the film to end, but another part was added on.  I thought the bonus disc was hilarious, maybe funnier than the film, and as long.  I wonder if they actually included the best bits in the movie.  The bonus disc also includes a clip of a precocious Seth Rogan doing stand up at the age of 13.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 21, 2009, 03:20:01 PM
THE TOOTH FAIRY.  

I'm very sad to learn that Dwayne Johnson did not do his own skating for this.  My fondness for him would have grown tenfold had I found out he knows his way around a rink.  As it is, I can't help thinking a little less of him.  Unfair, I know.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 21, 2009, 03:47:12 PM
I find it interesting that Stephen Merchant featured so much in the trailer, yet didn't get to say a word.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 21, 2009, 04:03:15 PM

I'm very sad to learn that Dwayne Johnson did not do his own skating for this.  My fondness for him would have grown tenfold had I found out he knows his way around a rink.  As it is, I can't help thinking a little less of him.  Unfair, I know.

I hope you're not kidding about Dwayne "da Rock" Johnson ... I like the guy too, I can't help it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 21, 2009, 04:06:46 PM
Everybody loves Dwayne The Rock Johnson!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on November 21, 2009, 04:08:38 PM
THE TOOTH FAIRY.  

I'm very sad to learn that Dwayne Johnson did not do his own skating for this.  My fondness for him would have grown tenfold had I found out he knows his way around a rink.  As it is, I can't help thinking a little less of him.  Unfair, I know.

Come on. The guy was a Champion professional wrestler. I think he's already established his great athletic ability.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 21, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
I find it interesting that Stephen Merchant featured so much in the trailer, yet didn't get to say a word.

What, you wanted TWO English accents in the trailer?  That's not how we roll over here. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 22, 2009, 12:35:21 PM
Of course I love Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.  Never as a wrestler (I preferred Goldberg, who was in a different league, I believe), but from the first moment I saw him make fun of himself (on an episode of That 70s Show).  It's just that if it had turned out he could skate, too, my adoration would have been complete, and I feel a little cheated knowing that he faked it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 23, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
Of course I love Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.  Never as a wrestler (I preferred Goldberg, who was in a different league, I believe), but from the first moment I saw him make fun of himself (on an episode of That 70s Show).  It's just that if it had turned out he could skate, too, my adoration would have been complete, and I feel a little cheated knowing that he faked it. 

Same here - I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling so I have no idea what that was like, but I just like his whole thing and I like how cartoony he is and how he sort of revels in his cartooniness. I see how you feel let down! He doesn't seem human.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 23, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling.

Lucky you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 23, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling.

Lucky you.

Haw! My bro watched it a lot in the 80s during the Hulk Hogan/ Rowdy Roddy Piper / Macho Man Randy Savage era so I watched plenty of those guys ... not so much the current crop, tho.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on November 23, 2009, 07:21:02 PM
I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling.

Lucky you.

Haw! My bro watched it a lot in the 80s during the Hulk Hogan/ Rowdy Roddy Piper / Macho Man Randy Savage era so I watched plenty of those guys ... not so much the current crop, tho.

I run into one dude all the time in Atlanta. Jake the Snake?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 23, 2009, 07:26:12 PM
Same here - I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling so I have no idea what that was like, but I just like his whole thing and I like how cartoony he is and how he sort of revels in his cartooniness. I see how you feel let down! He doesn't seem human.

This should give you a pretty good idea.  Just ignore the announcers as best you can.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPOq90fZRI
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 24, 2009, 02:08:31 PM
I don't think I've seen much pro wrestling.

Lucky you.

Haw! My bro watched it a lot in the 80s during the Hulk Hogan/ Rowdy Roddy Piper / Macho Man Randy Savage era so I watched plenty of those guys ... not so much the current crop, tho.

My exposure lasted two years, from 1997 to 1999, when I lived with a fan (yes, it surprises me, too). 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on November 26, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
I'm going to see Fantastic Mr. Fox tonight with my family! The first Wes Anderson movie they're interested in seeing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 26, 2009, 08:10:32 PM
I'm going to see Fantastic Mr. Fox tonight with my family! The first Wes Anderson movie they're interested in seeing.

And if it's like the others, it will probably be the last.


HEEEEEYYYYY-OOOOOOO!!!!!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 26, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
Did anyone see The Road?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on November 26, 2009, 09:39:34 PM
(http://caffeine-headache.net/blog3/BoatThatRockedPoster325.jpg)

Saw this last night. Fully expected to hate it, but there were a good few laughs and chuckles. Story, as you'd expect from Richard 'Love Actually' Curtis, was a bit crap and full of holes and mental-ness. And the final third was all a bit blarg. And one of the characters is called "Twat". Ugh. Despite it all, enough funny people are involved to make it very okay indeed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on November 26, 2009, 10:02:26 PM
(http://caffeine-headache.net/blog3/BoatThatRockedPoster325.jpg)

Saw this last night. Fully expected to hate it, but there were a good few laughs and chuckles. Story, as you'd expect from Richard 'Love Actually' Curtis, was a bit crap and full of holes and mental-ness. And the final third was all a bit blarg. And one of the characters is called "Twat". Ugh. Despite it all, enough funny people are involved to make it very okay indeed.

Isn't it called "Pirate Radio" now?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 27, 2009, 02:03:43 AM
Yes, and it still stinks.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 27, 2009, 02:17:49 AM
(http://caffeine-headache.net/blog3/BoatThatRockedPoster325.jpg)

A lot of rock movies like Music & Lyrics are too in-your-face for me, but this looks more my speed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: David on November 27, 2009, 04:04:44 AM
(http://caffeine-headache.net/blog3/BoatThatRockedPoster325.jpg)

A lot of rock movies like Music & Lyrics are too in-your-face for me, but this looks more my speed.

Man, I had so many problems with this movie, besides going for the shallowest of shallow cuts that didn't fit into the period. The movie seemed to be written by a huge misogynist, and my knee was jerking so much I could barely hear the movie. The really awesome cast was entirely wasted, and January Jones' character was somehow more "of the time" than Betty Draper. It wasn't funny. It was messy, but not fun or full of spirit (two things that allow messy films to get away with it (think Apatow)). And whenever Curtis didn't know what to do, he'd just cut to some random shot of people listening to the radio, instead of giving the actors something to do to occupy the film. It was a wasted premise that could have worked, but was instead about some blank slate of a kid trying to reconnect with his father and attempting to get laid. And at the end, lacking anything real to say, it went for the old cinematic trope of Rodney Dangerfield yelling "let's all go get laid!" without the benefit of Dangerfield to actually deliver the lines. Rock fans and comedy fans should avoid this film. People who have never heard of the sixties may enjoy it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 27, 2009, 07:07:52 AM
David gets it!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 27, 2009, 09:00:20 AM
David gets it!

Yeah, the whole thing looked really appalling.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 27, 2009, 09:04:22 AM
NEWSFLASH!  I just watched Slumdog Millionaire and don't understand what the fuss was all about. 

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 27, 2009, 09:09:56 AM
Sarah gets it!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 27, 2009, 09:28:42 AM
Damn, I was hoping I was just too jaded.  I'd rather the failure be mine than the majority of the rest of the world's.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on November 27, 2009, 10:11:35 AM
I didn't get Slumdog Millionaire either.  It was just really depressing.  If Jamal had lost the money, but gotten back together with his brother Salim, it would have been more of a "feel good ending" for me.  Also, why was I supposed to care about his relationship with Latika?  He barely knew her, it seemed pretty shallow.  There could have been moments on the screen showing the connection between the two.  Some of the acting was OK, but generally, I thought it was over the top and embarrasing given what it was going for, true emotion, I think.  I find Danny Boyle is hit and miss, I liked Shallow Grave, Trainspotting and A Life Less Ordinary.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 27, 2009, 11:28:27 AM
Not depressing enough in my book.  It sentimentalized and prettified abject poverty much the way Schindler's List did the Holocaust.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on November 27, 2009, 07:00:22 PM
Not depressing enough in my book.  It sentimentalized and prettified abject poverty much the way Schindler's List did the Holocaust.

Good Lord, woman!

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on November 27, 2009, 07:40:13 PM
Not depressing enough in my book.  It sentimentalized and prettified abject poverty much the way Schindler's List did the Holocaust.
Sarah, I've seen many films depicting abject poverty.  My comment about it being depressing had more to do with the marketing of it as being a "feel good" movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 28, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Right you are, fletcher.  Sorry to have misunderstood.  And about Selim and Latika's eternal love, I think we're supposed to believe it was a matter of destiny.  From the moment their eyes locked as six-year-olds, they knew each was the other's one and only.  Blech.

And, buff, here's what I wrote to a friend in 1995 after seeing Schindler's List.  (Notice I use some of the same language I used in my earlier post.  Impressively consistent, n'est-ce pas?)

I just went to see what has been called "the best movie ever made about the Holocaust."  But even if Schindler's List deserved that accolade, saying that a better movie has never been made does not mean that this is a good one. And I can't help wondering why everyone is rushing so frantically to hop on the pro-Spielberg bandwagon. Is it that we are so uncomfortable with his subject that to criticize the movie is tantamount to sacrilege? Are we afraid that we will be accused of anti-Semitism, pro-Nazism, and who knows what else if we dare to point out the movie's obvious flaws? Or are we hoping that if we can convince ourselves that Spielberg has finally done it, captured once and for all the obscenity that was the Holocaust, we will nevermore have to see its images, consider its relevance and its consequences, or wonder if it can happen again? Though it frightens me to believe it, I suspect that this last reason is the truest.

Schindler's List is a bowdlerized, prettified, quinine-coated sugar pill meant to soothe our consciences. It is a perfect movie for the end of the millennium: dishonest, corrupt, and trite. It shows just enough nastiness for its viewers to kid themselves that it's the real thing, while all along its disingenuous, beautifully photographed frames have but one function: to give us a titillating little catharsis while at the same time exonerating us all of any residual guilt we may feel for what happened in Europe earlier in this century.

Since when, I ask you, would people who had been underfed and brutalized for years look as good as those in Spielberg's labor camp scenes? And did any of you notice the abundance of fashionably slender women, with just a few fatties thrown in to show that Mr. S. accepts that not all of us are picture perfect? Where were the skeletal women? Where were the diseased women, tenderized by bruises and dripping with sores? And where, oh where, were the masculine equivalents of Spielberg's nubile Jewesses? Oh, give him his due--in the nude scenes, he did show a couple of naked men, complete with penises. But they were without fail aging and scrawny, whereas the gals were mostly slender and pleasantly endowed (again, with the exception of the token chubs just mentioned). Had I known that these scenes were intended to serve a secondary purpose as male-oriented pornography, I would not have been surprised by these inequities. But since reviewers had raved about the authenticity of Mr. Spielberg's vision, I expected to see plain, sick, skinny, suffering, pitiful people of both sexes, not some skewed, edited-for-the-modern-viewpoint so-called random sample of humanity. Did no one think to question the remarkable lewdness of vision that would lead a director to populate his labor camp with people who could double as fashion plates? Hell, their hair wasn't even dirty.

And what about our saintly hero, Mr. Schindler--the noble Gentile who saves the little Jews? One Christian doing a good deed is enough to redress all wrongs? Yes, Oskar Schindler did something that not many people had the guts to do. But is he a suitable stand-in for Jesus Christ? Is his back broad enough to shoulder all our sins? As the movie ended, I could almost feel the people around me sighing with satisfaction: Spielberg's handy moral antacid had neutralized any lingering doubts eating them about the role of the average Gentile in the Holocaust. One Christian saved 1,100 Jews--everything's okay now. One Christian saved 1,100 Jews--see, that Hitler was just a screwball, nothing to do with real Christians. One Christian saved 1,100 Jews--if only we had been there, the remaining 5,998,900 would have survived, too.

But perhaps the most insidious feature of this movie is that it claims to provide for us an approximation of the actual experience of the Holocaust. (Well, perhaps that's not fair-- this is what some of its reviewers have claimed for it. The director may have no such pretensions.) For any audience to think that a movie can furnish them with the reality of an experience is disturbing; for people to leave Schindler's List thinking that they have felt what it was like for the people living through that particular reality is downright dangerous. Aside from the fact that it is impossible for any movie to capture and communicate any experience in its entirety, and the fact that this particular experience is nothing if not indescribable, and the fact that Spielberg's specific exercise in deception is peculiarly incapable of telling the truth, that people can be persuaded to think that three-and-a-half hours of a nicely shot, well-cast, multimillion dollar extravaganza carefully designed to stretch people's tolerance for certain kinds of unpleasantness in a very safe, sanitized way are enough to inform them completely as to the truths of this unimaginable period in our history--well, I have no words to describe what I think that means. The point about the Holocaust is that it is inconceivable, yet it happened. A film that leads people to think that they've seen all there is to see, learned all there is to learn, makes it that much easier for history to repeat itself.

I begin to think that we should all be forced to undergo token tortures--though not too token--perhaps on a regular basis, just to remind us never to become complacent. That and yearly visits to Yad Vashem to view the record of the Holocaust enshrined there might go some way toward proving to us that we can never know what it was like but we must make sure it never happens again. Schindler's List dupes people into thinking they've had the experience--and in one not-too-arduous evening, to boot. From there, how much further is it to thinking that the fuss has been undeserved, and there's no need for us to guard against a repetition of these events? Meanwhile, hate crimes are on the rise, racism rages, anti-Semitism and homophobia are the norm, and violence against women remains a standby. If we think we're done dealing with the Holocaust, how much easier does it then become for its twin to be born?

Schindler's List is a manipulative, sentimentalized, dishonest film. And if no film before it has been as explicit, this only shows what ostriches we are. The book on which it is based did not pretend to offer the definitive print portrait of the Holocaust; it was a workmanlike, rather dull, but creditable piece of fictionalized reportage. At most, it wanted to tell the story of one man's deeds, something of the context in which they were played out, and their effect on those around him. Had Steven Spielberg shared Thomas Keneally's ambitions, his movie could have been a respectable addition to the lexicon of Holocaust-inspired art. If the movie as it now exists had not evoked such aggrandizing responses among its reviewers, perhaps it, too, could have served as a flawed but acceptable contribution to the cumulative creative response to the Holocaust. But to say that a film that reduces the experience of the Holocaust to the exploits of one Gentile surrounded by a crowd of Jewish extras presents the definitive portrayal of that time demonstrates a superficiality of sensibility, a paucity of reason, and a willing disregard for truth that say little for this species' chances of making it through another century.


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 28, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
Hear hear!

I just saw TBLPOCNO.  Awesome!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on November 28, 2009, 09:40:03 AM
NEWSFLASH!  I just watched Slumdog Millionaire and don't understand what the fuss was all about. 



My friends and I had the great/terrible idea to see a double feature of The Reader and Slumdog Millionaire. I was moved much more by The Reader than Slumdog Millionaire.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 28, 2009, 09:59:57 AM
Hear hear!

Yep.
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Post by: crumbum on November 28, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
Hear hear!

Yep.

Thirded.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on November 28, 2009, 11:32:23 AM
Anyone else see Planet 51? 

No?

Don't.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on November 28, 2009, 05:55:54 PM
Not depressing enough in my book.  It sentimentalized and prettified abject poverty much the way Schindler's List did the Holocaust.

Good Lord, woman!




Sarah, if you haven't seen this site before, I have to warn you: you're probably really going to like it.  This one is particularly appropriate:

http://www.zeppotron.com/unnovations/scumbgone.html


Make sure to move your mouse over the picture.



Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 28, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
Ha, "Scottish."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on November 28, 2009, 07:26:48 PM
Has anyone mentioned Fantastic Mr. Fox on here?




I liked it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 28, 2009, 08:11:33 PM
Saw it last night and thought it was really fun. Reminded me of those Penny bits from Pee Wees Playhouse. I thought it was much better than Were The Wild Things Are and i usually go for depressing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 28, 2009, 08:12:08 PM
NEWSFLASH!  I just watched Slumdog Millionaire and don't understand what the fuss was all about. 




Me neither i thought this and Crash were the two worst best picture winners of the decade.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 29, 2009, 12:03:44 PM
Saw it last night and thought it was really fun. Reminded me of those Penny bits from Pee Wees Playhouse. I thought it was much better than Were The Wild Things Are and i usually go for depressing.

I'm not much of a Wes Anderson fan but I thought this one put his peculiar talents to great use. I was sort of dreading it but I laughed a lot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on November 29, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
Slumdog Millionaire wasn't Best Picture worthy, but it was an entertaining little confection. I need to find out more about this "India" place, it seems charming.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 29, 2009, 03:07:15 PM
I think you mean "quaint," sir.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Lothar_Brightblade on November 29, 2009, 03:18:39 PM
Has anyone mentioned Fantastic Mr. Fox on here?




I liked it.

I thought it was great. In the first few minutes I was afraid the animation style was going to make me seasick, but it ended up just metsmerizing me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on November 29, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Slumdog Millionaire wasn't Best Picture worthy, but it was an entertaining little confection. I need to find out more about this "India" place, it seems charming.
I'd like to go to india
Live in a big white house in the forest
Drink gin and tonic and play a grand piano
Read a few books
Far from what saddens my heart
Try to live away from it
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 29, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Saw 'Fantastic Mr. Fox' this weekend.  Liked it a lot.  The kids liked it too, but found the rat to be terrifying.

Also saw "An Education" this weekend. Nick Hornby usually bugs me (ever since he wrote a New Yorker article bashing Kid A as too introspective and existing only for kids who have time to listen to albums in depth....argh! I'm getting angry again just thinking about it).  However, I think he did a nice job creating these characters.

Is it just me, or does Alfred Molina look like Mr. Creasote after a couple of trips to the gym?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 29, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
Is it just me, or does Alfred Molina look like Mr. Creasote after a couple of trips to the gym?

Having only seen the trailer, I can honestly say...*snorts with laughter* I will never be able to look at Alfred Molina the same way again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on November 29, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
Saw it last night and thought it was really fun. Reminded me of those Penny bits from Pee Wees Playhouse. I thought it was much better than Were The Wild Things Are and i usually go for depressing.

Where the Wild Things are dragged on and on, 5 minutes in I wanted to tell that kid to take a seat.  I thought the hand-made twig village was cool, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 29, 2009, 06:13:29 PM
The positive comments I'm hearing are making me consider seeing Fantastic Mr. Fox in spite of the fact that I absolutely loathed the two Wes Anderson movies I've seen (Rushmore and Royal Tennenbaums). Is the movie good enough to overcome that level of animosity?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 29, 2009, 06:22:37 PM
Anyone seen Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans yet?  In fact, I know many of you did, so let's debate: was it (1) awesome, or (2) really awesome?

Or does it have its own thread, I forget.

Re. Nick Hornby, for a guy who seems to represent all of music geekdom in the public mind, that guy has horrible fucking taste in music.  Or at least he seems to, based on his iTunes playlist from 2004 or so.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 29, 2009, 09:03:47 PM
Anyone seen Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans yet?  In fact, I know many of you did, so let's debate: was it (1) awesome, or (2) really awesome?

Or does it have its own thread, I forget.


I think there are actually several threads devoted to The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans. But in the spirit of the Bad Lieutenant's who-gives-a-fuck attitude, let's ignore that.

And I'll go with (1). I found a lot of things unpleasant about it - especially the sexual assault-iness of it, and the fact that it looked like a shitty straight-to-video thriller starring Steven Seagal. And it actually is really easy to imagine this movie starring Steven Seagal. But given that, it's amazing how awesome it is. Nic Cage's performance is hilarious.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 29, 2009, 10:34:11 PM
I chose a poor thread in which to post about THE BAD LIEUTENANT: PORT OF CALL NEW ORLEANS, so I'll just copy it here. 

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Saw THE BAD LIEUTENANT: PORT OF CALL NEW ORLEANS (the "the" really does add something to the title) last night and liked it quite a bit.  First, it seems no one here has had a good word for the original yet. I haven't seen it in years but I thought it and Keitel's performance were riveting. I can't think of another director that makes sleaze and depravity look as authentically disgusting and unsexy as Abel Ferrara.  His movies are skeevy like none other, and I mean that as a compliment.  On that level, the Herzog version with its cartoonier lead actor can't compete.   

That said, this movie was about as fun as I'd hoped, not because watching Cage indulge his many vices is a hoot, but because of the personal stamp he and Herzog put on what must have been a terribly boring script.   A lot of movies are odd or idiosyncratic by design, but rarer is one that's modestly conceived as one thing and then triumphantly turned on its head by a visionary weirdo and his iguanas.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 29, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
I agree with everything that's been said here, but it really was a blast.  In a way, Herzog used the shitty B-movie script in a way similar to how he used the raw footage of Grizzly Man.  And also, Chris, you're right, I'm adding the "the" from now on.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on November 30, 2009, 12:03:30 AM
The positive comments I'm hearing are making me consider seeing Fantastic Mr. Fox in spite of the fact that I absolutely loathed the two Wes Anderson movies I've seen (Rushmore and Royal Tennenbaums). Is the movie good enough to overcome that level of animosity?
To me, it's just like all the other Wes Anderson movies except 1. it was way more lighthearted 2. more fun 3. less depressing 4. did I say fun already? 5. the animation and dialogue is really awesome!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 30, 2009, 06:34:02 AM
The positive comments I'm hearing are making me consider seeing Fantastic Mr. Fox in spite of the fact that I absolutely loathed the two Wes Anderson movies I've seen (Rushmore and Royal Tennenbaums). Is the movie good enough to overcome that level of animosity?
To me, it's just like all the other Wes Anderson movies except 1. it was way more lighthearted 2. more fun 3. less depressing 4. did I say fun already? 5. the animation and dialogue is really awesome!

The thing that bothers me the most about the Anderson movies I've seen is the "HEY! EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME, OVER HERE, BEING QUIRKY!" quality. How much of that is here?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 30, 2009, 07:48:10 AM

The thing that bothers me the most about the Anderson movies I've seen is the "HEY! EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME, OVER HERE, BEING QUIRKY!" quality. How much of that is here?


Fox's son and nephew have that Wes Anderson-style quirkiness. Other than that, you're safe.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on December 02, 2009, 02:01:49 PM
I went to a theatrical screening of Bela Tarr's "Werckmeister Harmonies" last night. I was pretty excited for it, mostly because a close friend with impeccable taste has been hyping it to me for about two years. And just generally, I've been in the mood for apocalyptic Eastern European weirdness lately, so I figured this would really scratch my itch.

Unfortunately, I unwisely put myself into an, er, altered state before the screening, and the result turned out to be a super-intense, disorienting, horrifying nightmare. Which I guess is what Bela Tarr was going for with that one, but still, mmmaybe not the smartest thing I've ever done.  What little of it I can remember that I don't think was purely in my mind seems pretty interesting, though. I'll have to rent it soon and watch it with nothing stronger than herbal tea in my system.

So I guess the point of all this is: kids, make sure to keep it straight edge when you're dealing with ultra-minimalist, apocalyptic, Eastern Bloc dread-fests.  I'm going to try to go see "Fantastic Mr Fox" this week - hopefully that can undo most of the lingering psychic damage.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on December 02, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
Watched 'Good Hair', thought it was okay. A little muddled, and could've done without some Michael Moore-style look-at-me! stunts, but it was interesting and funny. Also, T-Pain and Maya Angelou need to appear together in a film more often.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 02, 2009, 03:09:50 PM
Ended up seeing The Men Who Stare at Goats the other night.  It was so boring.  Not even Clooney in a goofy wig could save this thing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: bakersfieldchimp on December 02, 2009, 08:42:59 PM
Did anybody see The Girlfriend Experience? I have my doubts about watching it and it's not something I can just pick up at the Redbox for a buck.

I've been on a big Soderbergh kick lately, I just saw it. I liked it, but it is what it is. Plot-wise, it's fairly simple, just a few days in the life of the main character, but the narrative timeline gets totally deconstructed in the editing room, so you're piecing a lot of the drama together after the fact. There's no big laughs or bravura sequences or anything, but it's just another one of his neat little minor movies. If you're expecting any more than that, you might be disappointed.

Sounds kinda like The Limey.

Yeah, imagine what The Limey would have been like if instead of unraveling a murder mystery and kicking the shit out of gangsters, Terence Stamp just occassionally had sex with lonely rich dudes.

Sold!

I just finished watching "Dear Zachary: A Letter To A Son About His Father". It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen, if not THE best. It's utterly captivating and heartbreaking at the same time. I haven't cried this much at a movie in a long time, and that almost makes it harder for me to recommend it, because it is totally gut-wrenching, but at the same time it's so well-crafted it's hard not to recommend it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2009, 04:37:23 AM
I second that recommendation. Dear Zachary is a completely heartbreaking experience. But somehow it's worth it. And I would like to add that the less you know about it going in, the better. I mean that literally - any synopsis will give away some of the gut-wrenching drama that unfolds.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on December 03, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
I second that recommendation. Dear Zachary is a completely heartbreaking experience. But somehow it's worth it. And I would like to add that the less you know about it going in, the better. I mean that literally - any synopsis will give away some of the gut-wrenching drama that unfolds.

Martin is right. Do not watch the trailer. Seriously. I didn't and it was one of the more powerful movie experiences I have ever had. I don't even know if I could watch it again knowing now how the movie unfolds and how easily I became emotional to the grief and frustration portrayed in the film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 03, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
I went to a theatrical screening of Bela Tarr's "Werckmeister Harmonies" last night. I was pretty excited for it, mostly because a close friend with impeccable taste has been hyping it to me for about two years. And just generally, I've been in the mood for apocalyptic Eastern European weirdness lately, so I figured this would really scratch my itch.

Unfortunately, I unwisely put myself into an, er, altered state before the screening, and the result turned out to be a super-intense, disorienting, horrifying nightmare. Which I guess is what Bela Tarr was going for with that one, but still, mmmaybe not the smartest thing I've ever done.  What little of it I can remember that I don't think was purely in my mind seems pretty interesting, though. I'll have to rent it soon and watch it with nothing stronger than herbal tea in my system.

So I guess the point of all this is: kids, make sure to keep it straight edge when you're dealing with ultra-minimalist, apocalyptic, Eastern Bloc dread-fests.  I'm going to try to go see "Fantastic Mr Fox" this week - hopefully that can undo most of the lingering psychic damage.

I suggest a sweet combo of 200mg of Rohypnol chased with 6oz of JD precisely 37 minutes before showtime.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on December 03, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaWFeGxuXgM

FINALLY a film directed solely at me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 03, 2009, 10:17:14 PM

FINALLY a film directed solely at me.

The thing that surprised me most about this is that it isn't from the Friedberg/Seltzer team or a Wayans.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 04, 2009, 06:00:36 AM

FINALLY a film directed solely at me.

The thing that surprised me most about this is that it isn't from the Friedberg/Seltzer team or a Wayans.

They must be kicking themselves.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on December 04, 2009, 10:05:40 AM

FINALLY a film directed solely at me.

The thing that surprised me most about this is that it isn't from the Friedberg/Seltzer team or a Wayans.

They must be kicking themselves.

If not, can I kick them? With knives?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on December 05, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
I just saw Precious. Thank God there are 9 more hours left in the day for me to un-depress myself.  That being said, I thought it was very well made and the performances were outstanding. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 06, 2009, 02:48:52 AM
I went to a theatrical screening of Bela Tarr's "Werckmeister Harmonies" last night. I was pretty excited for it, mostly because a close friend with impeccable taste has been hyping it to me for about two years. And just generally, I've been in the mood for apocalyptic Eastern European weirdness lately, so I figured this would really scratch my itch.

Unfortunately, I unwisely put myself into an, er, altered state before the screening, and the result turned out to be a super-intense, disorienting, horrifying nightmare. Which I guess is what Bela Tarr was going for with that one, but still, mmmaybe not the smartest thing I've ever done.  What little of it I can remember that I don't think was purely in my mind seems pretty interesting, though. I'll have to rent it soon and watch it with nothing stronger than herbal tea in my system.

So I guess the point of all this is: kids, make sure to keep it straight edge when you're dealing with ultra-minimalist, apocalyptic, Eastern Bloc dread-fests.  I'm going to try to go see "Fantastic Mr Fox" this week - hopefully that can undo most of the lingering psychic damage.

Except for the opening scene and the riot in the hospital I didn't care for Werckmeister Harmonies.  I don't think watching a character walk from the foreground ALL THE WAY into the distance constitutes much of an idea.  I REALLY liked Tarr's 7-hour SATANTANGO though.  The walking in that movie felt more important.  

I recently watched an odd-ish 50's b-movie called MURDER BY CONTRACT, which just came out as part of a new Film Noir boxset.  Vince Edwards plays a fledgling New York hitman and sociopath who really loosens up when he's flown out to Los Angeles to kill a female nightclub singer in witness protection (similar, I guess, to how Dexter seemed to really like Miami in the one episode I saw).  There's a weird psychology behind the whole movie and Edwards' obnoxious character in particular.  When he finds out his target is a woman he tries to charge his "contractor" double because women are "unreliable," and "never stand in one place."  He regales the two goons assigned to tail him with precious insights ("women are descended from the monkey, and the monkey is a very curious animal..."), and there's a scene where he chews out a room service waiter at length and basically acts like a total cock after the guy brings him a smudged coffee cup.  The film's most memorable feature though is the moody electric guitar score, which sounds like a cross between The Third Man and Twin Peaks-like 50's licks.  There's also a brief dvd intro from Martin Scorsese, who talks about how foreign cinema was starting to influence movies like this and how the early scenes of Edwards compulsively exercising in his tiny apartment influenced similar moments in Taxi Driver.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 06, 2009, 05:53:24 AM
Haven't seen that one, Chris - sounds interesting. Will look it up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on December 06, 2009, 11:17:02 AM
Caught The Road on Friday night. Like the book, which I found gripping and moving but also strangely unsatisfying, I had the feeling after I was done that there wasn't a whole lot going on beyond some emotional button-pushing on a very primitive level.

It did put me in mind, though, of a movie with very similar themes and tone that I think was far more well-developed: Kon Ichikawa's Fires On The Plain, made in 1959. I would recommend that one (it's on Criterion) above The Road anyday. Or, if you really liked The Road, you should definitely check out FOTP.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 07, 2009, 11:09:30 PM
Fantastic Mr. Fox is as fun as it gets.  No obnoxious, consumerist Hollywood bullshit; no betraying its own creative ideals.  So now both Wes Anderson AND Quentin Tarantino have returned to my good graces this year.  At least I can be certain that Avatar will be stupid. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 08, 2009, 06:34:19 AM
I recently watched an odd-ish 50's b-movie called MURDER BY CONTRACT, which just came out as part of a new Film Noir boxset.  Vince Edwards plays a fledgling New York hitman and sociopath who really loosens up when he's flown out to Los Angeles to kill a female nightclub singer in witness protection (similar, I guess, to how Dexter seemed to really like Miami in the one episode I saw).  There's a weird psychology behind the whole movie and Edwards' obnoxious character in particular.  When he finds out his target is a woman he tries to charge his "contractor" double because women are "unreliable," and "never stand in one place."  He regales the two goons assigned to tail him with precious insights ("women are descended from the monkey, and the monkey is a very curious animal..."), and there's a scene where he chews out a room service waiter at length and basically acts like a total cock after the guy brings him a smudged coffee cup.  The film's most memorable feature though is the moody electric guitar score, which sounds like a cross between The Third Man and Twin Peaks-like 50's licks.  There's also a brief dvd intro from Martin Scorsese, who talks about how foreign cinema was starting to influence movies like this and how the early scenes of Edwards compulsively exercising in his tiny apartment influenced similar moments in Taxi Driver.  

I saw and liked this as well. I agree, the psychological aspects seemed out of place, or maybe ahead of their time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on December 08, 2009, 07:14:14 AM
I want to see Up in the Air.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on December 08, 2009, 12:29:34 PM

Except for the opening scene and the riot in the hospital I didn't care for Werckmeister Harmonies.  I don't think watching a character walk from the foreground ALL THE WAY into the distance constitutes much of an idea.  I REALLY liked Tarr's 7-hour SATANTANGO though.  The walking in that movie felt more important.  

That's the one with the opening shot that's like 8 minutes of cows grazing, right? I'll be watching it soon with my buddy. I can think of no better way to ring in the holiday season than with some pure uncut Hungarian bleakness.  I'll see if I can fortify the eggnog with Apocalypse-Whale blubber.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on December 10, 2009, 12:12:07 AM
Watching Blue Velvet. Right now.
This is a really great movie, full of disturbingness, and I doubt I will ever watch it ever again after tonight.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 10, 2009, 03:18:34 PM
Watching Blue Velvet. Right now.
This is a really great movie, full of disturbingness, and I doubt I will ever watch it ever again after tonight.

A human ear?


Have you seen the chicken walk?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 10, 2009, 03:50:26 PM
the mother-in-law invited me over for a movie last sunday.  she rented Whatever Works, which she didnt know was a Woody Allen film starring Larry David as the phoned in Woody Allen character.

i definitely chuckled, but hated the southern female character (and her mother!) the most. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 10, 2009, 04:03:09 PM
the mother-in-law invited me over for a movie last sunday.  she rented Whatever Works, which she didnt know was a Woody Allen film starring Larry David as the phoned in Woody Allen character.

i definitely chuckled, but hated the southern female character (and her mother!) the most. 


I watched Celebrity a couple of weeks ago, as I work my way through his lesser films.  Not great, not terrible.  The underappreciated film in the Allen Oeuvre is still Stardust Memories.  A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy is all right, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on December 10, 2009, 04:18:15 PM
the mother-in-law invited me over for a movie last sunday.  she rented Whatever Works, which she didnt know was a Woody Allen film starring Larry David as the phoned in Woody Allen character.

i definitely chuckled, but hated the southern female character (and her mother!) the most. 


I watched Celebrity a couple of weeks ago, as I work my way through his lesser films.  Not great, not terrible.  The underappreciated film in the Allen Oeuvre is still Stardust Memories.  A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy is all right, too.

i love Stardust Memories.  although, it seems to be for more personal reasons than cinematic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 10, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Stardust Memories is great! And definitely not regarded as one of the Woodster's lesser movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 10, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
I love Stardust Memories. As far as non-major Woody Allen stuff, Broadway Danny Rose is my favorite. It might be my favorite of all of his. I also really really love Bullets Over Broadway.

I absolutely hated Celebrity when I saw it in the theater and haven't watched it since. It was the first time I'd ever had that reaction to one of his movies (but I've had it a lot since - I either didn't like or couldn't even make it through Small Time Crooks, Sweet and Lowdown, The Curse of the Jade Scorpion, Melinda and Melinda, Match Point, and Scoop).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 10, 2009, 09:18:49 PM
Stardust Memories is great! And definitely not regarded as one of the Woodster's lesser movies.

Tell that to the people of IMDB!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 10, 2009, 09:48:37 PM
I also like Stardust Memories.  I actually like more of his movies than I dislike.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2009, 04:27:46 AM
Stardust Memories is great! And definitely not regarded as one of the Woodster's lesser movies.

Tell that to the people of IMDB!

Those people are animals. I'm talking about critics, biographers, etc.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on December 11, 2009, 01:27:23 PM
Speaking of the people of IMDB and others who are ruining movies (http://bit.ly/4LTmlS):

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Which isn’t to say that Knowles’s motivations are entirely pure—or that he doesn’t also seem to be wearing fanboy blinders. For one thing, there appears to be no such thing as a bad geek movie in his universe, only failures of marketing. (The Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez collaboration Grindhouse, for instance, would have worked had the Weinstein Company listened to him and advertised the film primarily online instead of on television.) For another, Knowles speaks of geek culture almost as a political or social movement. He will use any means necessary to win the unconverted to his side—and he won’t stop until everyone goes geek.

“We’re hovering near a renaissance of geek filmmaking that we haven’t seen since the late seventies and early eighties, when Spielberg and Lucas and Carpenter were at their prime,” he told me. “We’re bringing people who were indie darlings, like Steven Soderbergh, into a medium of geek that we’ve never seen before. Look at Woody Allen, who has been into suspense films recently, like Match Point and Cassandra’s Dream. That’s not Woody Allen territory, but he’s started to make it his territory. Look at David Cronenberg. He was doing the genre stuff, but then he went arty. Now he’s decided to remake The Fly. It’s like we’re managing to pull Cronenberg back to what I really want Cronenberg to be doing.”

But how does Knowles respond to those moviegoers who don’t want any part of this culture—who yearn for comedies that aren’t filtered through the arch hipsterspeak of Diablo Cody (Juno) and Wes Anderson (Fantastic Mr. Fox); who first got hooked on Soderbergh courtesy of a soft-spoken, character-driven film called sex, lies, and videotape; who prefer Woody Allen in his Manhattan mode to anything he’s made featuring Scarlett Johansson; who thought Cronenberg’s über-arty Spider was the most mature, complex, and daring work of his career? Which is to say, how does he respond to an old-school movie buff like me?

“Eat it,” he told me, breaking into giggles. “I win.”

Geeks are the new jocks, and people who enjoy smart movies are the new geeks. Seems about right. (Though I'm pretty sure geeks hate "arch hipsterspeak" and hipster-anything; what do mutants like Knowles actually consider good comedy?)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on December 11, 2009, 06:16:07 PM
I prefer this fan critic site:

http://rateyourmusic.com/films/chart (http://rateyourmusic.com/films/chart)

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2009, 07:34:55 PM
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“Eat it,” he told me, breaking into giggles. “I win.”

I'm turning this place into a carwash as we speak.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on December 11, 2009, 07:59:21 PM
I prefer this fan critic site:

http://rateyourmusic.com/films/chart (http://rateyourmusic.com/films/chart)



It's funny because the actual music side of that site can be completely incomprehensible (http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2009), but any best-movies list without Dark Knight ranked above anything by Kurosawa, Scorsese or Hitchcock is a clear improvement.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on December 11, 2009, 08:42:08 PM
Yeah, progheads rule the music charts, although I still like using the music side for my own personal use. The film side is very new, so there is still a chance for people to screw it up, but for now it's pretty nice.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 12, 2009, 08:54:28 AM
I have to concur with that list that The Ruins of Beverast's "Foulest Semen of a Sheltered Elite" was the #9 album of 2009.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on December 12, 2009, 08:17:09 PM
I was skeptical about the rave reviews for Drag Me To Hell, but it was a fun movie. The acting wasn't that great, and it was cheesy at moments but it was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JohnU on December 13, 2009, 10:17:58 PM
Avatar is five days away!

(http://www.quietmoment.org/photos/picture_stream/avatar-linda-hamilton.jpg)

I made my own poster based on the previews.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 13, 2009, 11:34:06 PM
Avatar is five days away!

(http://www.quietmoment.org/photos/picture_stream/avatar-linda-hamilton.jpg)

I made my own poster based on the previews.

Man, that is solid work.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 17, 2009, 11:47:46 PM
Avatar is five days away!

(http://www.quietmoment.org/photos/picture_stream/avatar-linda-hamilton.jpg)

I made my own poster based on the previews.

Man, that is solid work.

Will Ferrell never looked better
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on December 20, 2009, 09:58:45 AM
I saw Avatar last night.  Here are my two cents:

2 hours and 11 minutes in, it gets really good. I wish there were more edits in the beginning. I enjoyed it but I don't think it needed to be so long. Pretty cool movie, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on December 21, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
I'm going to post this here, and I'm sorry for that maybe.  But it is a very thorough undressing. 

Give it a chance...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on December 21, 2009, 05:20:19 PM
I'm going to post this here, and I'm sorry for that maybe.  But it is a very thorough undressing. 

Give it a chance...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I just watched (some of) this! It's funny stuff. But long - I think there are 7 parts. I don't have that kind of attention span...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 22, 2009, 09:39:07 AM
It's a very effective takedown.  I hated those movies so much, especially the first one, and this does a pretty solid job of explaining why.  Even if it's 40% as long as the whole movie.


Caveat: I like human suffering as much as the next guy, but the "woman-locked-in-the-basement" scenes weren't really, you know, funny, so much as disturbing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on December 22, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
Caveat: I like human suffering as much as the next guy, but the "woman-locked-in-the-basement" scenes weren't really, you know, funny, so much as disturbing.

Ooh, I missed that bit.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on December 22, 2009, 11:51:51 AM
I have a question: does it bother you guys as much as it bothers me when two characters in a film are talking in a moving car, and the character who's driving keeps turning to look at the other character for inordinately long amounts of time instead of watching the road? I understand the mechanics of how these scenes are shot, and that the actors are generally not thinking about mimicking the act of driving so much as connecting with each other in the moment, but usually I'm sitting there thinking WATCH THE ROAD! YOU'RE GOING TO CRASH!!! Once you've noticed it once it seems to happen all the time.

The two examples I've seen recently are in My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done, where in the opening scene Willem Dafoe does it, and in Mamet's Homicide, where I think it's Joe Mantegna doing the driving and William H Macy in the passenger seat. What makes the latter scene funny is that as I was starting to panic, they do nearly crash due to Joe's inattentiveness. At the time I thought maybe David Mamet has the same pet peeve as me and was subtly making fun of the convention.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 22, 2009, 11:52:43 AM
I have a question: does it bother you guys as much as it bothers me when two characters in a film are talking in a moving car, and the character who's driving keeps turning to look at the other character for inordinately long amounts of time instead of watching the road? I understand the mechanics of how these scenes are shot, and that the actors are generally not thinking about mimicking the act of driving so much as connecting with each other in the moment, but usually I'm sitting there thinking WATCH THE ROAD! YOU'RE GOING TO CRASH!!! Once you've noticed it once it seems to happen all the time.


That drives me nuts too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 22, 2009, 12:31:16 PM
Me, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 22, 2009, 01:39:27 PM
They do crash... about a third of the time.  It's a terrible convention, very manipulative and stupid.




This review of The Phantom Menace is just about perfect.  What a terrible movie, what a disappointment, what a testament to the fact that ridiculous amounts of money and soft living and surrounding yourself at all times with a network of Yes Men is completely destructive to a once-great storyteller.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on December 22, 2009, 07:31:28 PM
They do crash... about a third of the time.  It's a terrible convention, very manipulative and stupid.




This review of The Phantom Menace is just about perfect.  What a terrible movie, what a disappointment, what a testament to the fact that ridiculous amounts of money and soft living and surrounding yourself at all times with a network of Yes Men is completely destructive to a once-great storyteller.



did anyone catch darth vader ringing the opening bell at NYSE today? It was in honor of star wars 30 years of being the top licenced brand in the world.

At first glance of vader and six stormtroopers were some sort of admission that the NYSE finally were admitting they belong to the evil Empire.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: oilcantim on December 22, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
I just saw dat Avatar film dere.

I'm sure this joke has been done before, but it was easily the best video game cut scene ever!  The game kinda sucked, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 24, 2009, 06:09:28 AM
I'm watching Ladies of Leisure (dir. Frank Capra, 1930), Barbara Stanwyck's breakout role.  She's only twenty-three in it, and she's quite the charmer. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 24, 2009, 10:08:14 PM
I'm watching Ladies of Leisure (dir. Frank Capra, 1930), Barbara Stanwyck's breakout role.  She's only twenty-three in it, and she's quite the charmer. 

Coincidentally, we just saw Christmas in Connecticut last night, in which she was equally charming.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: thom on December 24, 2009, 11:13:51 PM
Did anyone else find the 3D in Avatar to be awful? I kept closing one eye so I could see what was going on.
Luckily the movie was so offensively bad that the cruddy 3D didn't make me enjoy the thing any less.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 25, 2009, 05:56:25 AM
I'm watching Ladies of Leisure (dir. Frank Capra, 1930), Barbara Stanwyck's breakout role.  She's only twenty-three in it, and she's quite the charmer. 

Coincidentally, we just saw Christmas in Connecticut last night, in which she was equally charming.

Yes, that is a great one.  Another of my favorites of hers is Ball of Fire, a movie that prompted the inclusion of the phrase "on account of because" in my family's private lexicon.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 25, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
I'm watching Ladies of Leisure (dir. Frank Capra, 1930), Barbara Stanwyck's breakout role.  She's only twenty-three in it, and she's quite the charmer. 

Coincidentally, we just saw Christmas in Connecticut last night, in which she was equally charming.

Yes, that is a great one.  Another of my favorites of hers is Ball of Fire, a movie prompted the inclusion of the phrase "on account of because" in my family's private lexicon.

Coincidence?  I just recorded some Bogart-kills-his-wife movie with her in it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 25, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
Ruby gets around.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on December 25, 2009, 08:30:43 PM
Anybody seen The Whole Shootin Match? May be my new favorite movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 26, 2009, 08:51:26 AM
Last night on Netflix I watched David Mamet's take on mixed martial arts (![!]), REDBELT.  It reminded me of a much less-stylized GHOST DOG in that its hero is an honor-obsessed walking anachronism living by strict Japanese-influenced codes in a sleazy, corrupt world.  It's purposefully unrealistic and kind of half-heartedly rehashes Mamet's old con games, but it's always watchable thanks mainly to Chiwetel Ejiofor's fantastic lead performance.  Ejiofor is a jiujitsu instructor forced into competing professionally, and if you think Mamet would come up with some amusingly inscrutable jiujitsu instructions you'd be right ("INSIST!  INSIST on the move!").  The ending is defiantly hokey, and depicts an MMA pay-per-view with slightly more class and better production values than a cockfight. Tim Allen shows up and isn't bad at all as a boozy, Hollywood faux-tough guy.  

Lastly, I should point out that this exists (http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Velvet-Curtain-Picture-Redbelt/dp/B0015I2P04). 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 26, 2009, 09:01:59 AM
I (gulp) watched the cloying Nights in Rodanthe last night.  Wouldn't have bothered with it, but boy is it set in a great spot.  Dumb place to build a house, but while it stood what a wonder.

Now for 1956's Day the World Ended.

Happy Boxing Day, everyone!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 26, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
I thought REDBELT was terrible. Proposed alt title would be THE KARATE GUY. Only redeeming thing is Eijofor, who turns in a predictably solid perf. But he's stuck in a sea of mediocrity. I've heard people defending the film on the grounds of it being Mamet-does-genre cheeky, but I don't buy it - Mamet is way too serious about his ART, and is simply not able to keep a distance to what he does. To me Redbelt read more like a boring by-the-numbers exercise by a middleaged geezer who's become FASCINATED by MMA and jiu-jitsu and probably got his own personal trainer as one of the exec producers of this. And of course there's Rebecca Pidgeon. The comparison with Ghost Dog is apt, Chris L, but only shames Redbelt further.

That CD looks wonderful though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 26, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
I've heard people defending the film on the grounds of it being Mamet-does-genre cheeky, but I don't buy it - Mamet is way too serious about his ART, and is simply not able to keep a distance to what he does.

Yeah, that would pretty much be my argument for it.  Mamet's interest in this stuff is very fly-by-night and the main plot is really thrown together, but I liked how melodramatically fallen and corrupt everything was, and the stuff about not wanting to "shame the academy" and the cop who shows such fierce loyalty to his karate instructor.  Again though, Eijofar really sells this shit and without someone like him it probably would have been embarassing. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 26, 2009, 09:01:59 PM
Saw Sherlock Holmes today.  Entertaining.  NOT canon, so if you're going as a Holmes fanboy/girl you should skip it.  But they put enough Dolye-ian touches in to make it fun, and there's a lot of period stuff that makes it visually great.

Also, if you hate Guy Ritchie movies you should probably skip it as well.

I like Robert Downey, Jr. and Jude Law, and I like the few things I've seen with Rachel McAdams.  They're all good.
Title: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: buffcoat on December 27, 2009, 01:26:36 AM
I recorded Once Upon a Time in America a few weeks ago.  It's been staring at me, all 3:50 of it, ever since.  It gets three stars from the movie reviewing people who determine these things for cable.

My question is, is it worth that much time?  That's a really long movie.  I like Leone's Westerns and have seen the other two in this trilogy - Once Upon a Time in the West and Giu la Testa/Duck, You Sucker, but I have to admit I'm hesitant to invest this much time in a movie that doesn't get a lot of buzz or spark many conversations.

Your input is very welcome.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: emma on December 27, 2009, 01:36:48 AM
Saw Sherlock Holmes today.  Entertaining.  NOT canon, so if you're going as a Holmes fanboy/girl you should skip it.  But they put enough Dolye-ian touches in to make it fun, and there's a lot of period stuff that makes it visually great.

Also, if you hate Guy Ritchie movies you should probably skip it as well.

I like Robert Downey, Jr. and Jude Law, and I like the few things I've seen with Rachel McAdams.  They're all good.

I just got back from seeing it and I agree with all of this except that Rachel McAdams was responsible for some of the worst acting I've seen in a long, long time. Here is how to do an impression of her in that movie: widen your eyes, part your lips slightly, stare vacantly at whatever's in front of you and say everything like you're reading it for the first time. Urgh.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: Pat K on December 27, 2009, 01:52:52 AM
I recorded Once Upon a Time in America a few weeks ago.  It's been staring at me, all 3:50 of it, ever since.  It gets three stars from the movie reviewing people who determine these things for cable.

My question is, is it worth that much time?  That's a really long movie.  I like Leone's Westerns and have seen the other two in this trilogy - Once Upon a Time in the West and Giu la Testa/Duck, You Sucker, but I have to admit I'm hesitant to invest this much time in a movie that doesn't get a lot of buzz or spark many conversations.

Your input is very welcome.

One of the most boring gangster movies ever made, in my opinion. I think The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is one of the greatest movies ever made and a lot of other Leone flicks are close to my heart, but Once Upon A Time In America is nothing but a chore to sit through for me. Makes Stranger Than Paradise seem like Goodfellas by comparison.  Also features the most egregious, schmaltzy overuse of the song "Yesterday" in film history.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: orator on December 27, 2009, 05:26:13 AM
I recorded Once Upon a Time in America a few weeks ago.  It's been staring at me, all 3:50 of it, ever since.  It gets three stars from the movie reviewing people who determine these things for cable.

My question is, is it worth that much time?  That's a really long movie.  I like Leone's Westerns and have seen the other two in this trilogy - Once Upon a Time in the West and Giu la Testa/Duck, You Sucker, but I have to admit I'm hesitant to invest this much time in a movie that doesn't get a lot of buzz or spark many conversations.

Your input is very welcome.

One of the most boring gangster movies ever made, in my opinion. I think The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is one of the greatest movies ever made and a lot of other Leone flicks are close to my heart, but Once Upon A Time In America is nothing but a chore to sit through for me. Makes Stranger Than Paradise seem like Goodfellas by comparison.  Also features the most egregious, schmaltzy overuse of the song "Yesterday" in film history.

Yeah, I kept hearing about how amazing it was and I thought it was boring as hell. I've loved every other Leone movie I've seen.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: Christina on December 27, 2009, 09:51:45 AM
I recorded Once Upon a Time in America a few weeks ago.  It's been staring at me, all 3:50 of it, ever since.  It gets three stars from the movie reviewing people who determine these things for cable.

My question is, is it worth that much time?  That's a really long movie.  I like Leone's Westerns and have seen the other two in this trilogy - Once Upon a Time in the West and Giu la Testa/Duck, You Sucker, but I have to admit I'm hesitant to invest this much time in a movie that doesn't get a lot of buzz or spark many conversations.

Your input is very welcome.

One of the most boring gangster movies ever made, in my opinion. I think The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is one of the greatest movies ever made and a lot of other Leone flicks are close to my heart, but Once Upon A Time In America is nothing but a chore to sit through for me. Makes Stranger Than Paradise seem like Goodfellas by comparison.  Also features the most egregious, schmaltzy overuse of the song "Yesterday" in film history.

Yeah, I kept hearing about how amazing it was and I thought it was boring as hell. I've loved every other Leone movie I've seen.

I'll third this. I watched it a long time ago and have managed to blot this movie out, but I remember being pretty bored w/it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on December 27, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
I thought REDBELT was terrible. Proposed alt title would be THE KARATE GUY. Only redeeming thing is Eijofor, who turns in a predictably solid perf. But he's stuck in a sea of mediocrity. I've heard people defending the film on the grounds of it being Mamet-does-genre cheeky, but I don't buy it - Mamet is way too serious about his ART, and is simply not able to keep a distance to what he does. To me Redbelt read more like a boring by-the-numbers exercise by a middleaged geezer who's become FASCINATED by MMA and jiu-jitsu and probably got his own personal trainer as one of the exec producers of this. And of course there's Rebecca Pidgeon. The comparison with Ghost Dog is apt, Chris L, but only shames Redbelt further.

That CD looks wonderful though.

I totally agree. I'd call that ending the biggest head-scratcher I've seen in a long, long time. And knowing the little I know about Mamet I have to conclude he meant it in all seriousness.

Saw Up In The Air a few weeks ago -- it was, as our Dear Leader might say, a pile of garbage. Jason Reitman might seems to have a way with actors and that is the only thing that makes his movies watchable because all three of them have had AWFUL scripts. This one is so disingenuous it made my head spin.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: buffcoat on December 27, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
I recorded Once Upon a Time in America a few weeks ago.  It's been staring at me, all 3:50 of it, ever since.  It gets three stars from the movie reviewing people who determine these things for cable.

My question is, is it worth that much time?  That's a really long movie.  I like Leone's Westerns and have seen the other two in this trilogy - Once Upon a Time in the West and Giu la Testa/Duck, You Sucker, but I have to admit I'm hesitant to invest this much time in a movie that doesn't get a lot of buzz or spark many conversations.

Your input is very welcome.

One of the most boring gangster movies ever made, in my opinion. I think The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is one of the greatest movies ever made and a lot of other Leone flicks are close to my heart, but Once Upon A Time In America is nothing but a chore to sit through for me. Makes Stranger Than Paradise seem like Goodfellas by comparison.  Also features the most egregious, schmaltzy overuse of the song "Yesterday" in film history.

Yeah, I kept hearing about how amazing it was and I thought it was boring as hell. I've loved every other Leone movie I've seen.

I'll third this. I watched it a long time ago and have managed to blot this movie out, but I remember being pretty bored w/it.

Thanks, everyone - I think I'll watch a little of it just to get the feel, but if I start getting bored, and it sounds like I will, I will feel fine in deleting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 27, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
I've heard people defending the film on the grounds of it being Mamet-does-genre cheeky, but I don't buy it - Mamet is way too serious about his ART, and is simply not able to keep a distance to what he does.

Yeah, that would pretty much be my argument for it.  Mamet's interest in this stuff is very fly-by-night and the main plot is really thrown together, but I liked how melodramatically fallen and corrupt everything was, and the stuff about not wanting to "shame the academy" and the cop who shows such fierce loyalty to his karate instructor.  Again though, Eijofar really sells this shit and without someone like him it probably would have been embarassing. 

I don't know if it's fair to characterize his interest in Brazilian jiu jitsu as "fly-by-night", the guy has a purple belt and has been training with one of the top guys for like 5 years.  Ejiofor is obviously the best part of the film and there's more than a few awful acting moments from others, but I thought it was pretty fun.  I think I might be the only person who enjoyed that ridiculously over-the-top ending.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: Christina on December 27, 2009, 02:46:06 PM

Thanks, everyone - I think I'll watch a little of it just to get the feel, but if I start getting bored, and it sounds like I will, I will feel fine in deleting.

Ain't it weird, how your DVR/Tivo queue seems to own you? Like, why should I feel guilty about deleting things if I haven't watched them?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 27, 2009, 03:33:35 PM
Saw Up In The Air a few weeks ago -- it was, as our Dear Leader might say, a pile of garbage. Jason Reitman might seems to have a way with actors and that is the only thing that makes his movies watchable because all three of them have had AWFUL scripts. This one is so disingenuous it made my head spin.

I liked Up in the Air. I didn't have a problem with the script and I wouldn't use "disingenuous" to describe it. Sure, it was obvious about 10 minutes in where everything would land, but I didn't mind. The movie felt more like a character study, or an examination of loneliness, than a plot-oriented piece, so I didn't mind seeing everything fall into place exactly like I knew it would. And, as you allude to, the performances are strong across the board.

I haven't seen either of Reitman's other two movies, so I can't comment on them.
Title: Re: Once Upon a Time In America
Post by: buffcoat on December 27, 2009, 04:25:38 PM

Thanks, everyone - I think I'll watch a little of it just to get the feel, but if I start getting bored, and it sounds like I will, I will feel fine in deleting.

Ain't it weird, how your DVR/Tivo queue seems to own you? Like, why should I feel guilty about deleting things if I haven't watched them?

I figure it's smarter than I am.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on December 27, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
Hello everyone. This question goes out to, in no particular order...Sarah, Martin, Chris L, Yesno, Auntie C, Buffcoat and anyone else who wants to weigh in. Avatar? I need to know what to think about that film. Perhaps those who love film will dismiss it. Thoughts, comments, concerns. Thank you in advance for any insight.
Sincerely, Steve.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 27, 2009, 11:12:19 PM
Well, have yet to see Avatar, but I just finally saw the Hangover on the DVD, and I just realized that this was the movie that ZG was doing he was imitating Jeffrey Tambor going "Has anyone seen my Kindle?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 27, 2009, 11:25:58 PM
Hello everyone. This question goes out to, in no particular order...Sarah, Martin, Chris L, Yesno, Auntie C, Buffcoat and anyone else who wants to weigh in. Avatar? I need to know what to think about that film. Perhaps those who love film will dismiss it. Thoughts, comments, concerns. Thank you in advance for any insight.
Sincerely, Steve.

Haven't seen Avatar yet.  Mainly because I haven't had time, but also because it's not playing in "true" IMAX near me.  The Smithsonian runs the IMAX theaters here and they suspiciously claim they tried to book it but were turned down by the studio.  Personally, I think after Watchmen they were afraid EVERY movie with blue-skinned characters would feature frontal nudity now.  Instead they're STILL running Star Trek and (you guessed it) Night at the Museum 2 with no end in sight.  I've got extremely low expectations for the content of this thing so I wanted to at least see it in the biggest-ass format possible.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on December 27, 2009, 11:56:58 PM
Hey, I've been called out, but with Avatar we have a situation where (1) Every critic says it's great, (2) Everyone I know who's seen it hates it, and (3) I am simultaneously predisposed to hate overhyped crap but also to come out in favor of pop culture heavyweights (e.g. I support Speilberg, Hanks, Cruise).  So I'm so torn on this one, and in the same situation as SJK.  I was really expecting it to be a flop based on the video game-looking trailer, but it looks I was wrong on that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 28, 2009, 12:04:56 AM
Hey, I've been called out, but with Avatar we have a situation where (1) Every critic says it's great, (2) Everyone I know who's seen it hates it, and (3) I am simultaneously predisposed to hate overhyped crap but also to come out in favor of pop culture heavyweights (e.g. I support Speilberg, Hanks, Cruise).  So I'm so torn on this one, and in the same situation as SJK.  I was really expecting it to be a flop based on the video game-looking trailer, but it looks I was wrong on that.

I"m struggling on this one for the exact same reasons YN.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on December 28, 2009, 12:10:54 AM
I guess I just have to see it. Cameron wins.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on December 28, 2009, 01:19:21 AM
I guess I just have to see it. Cameron wins.

If Cameron wins it's because the American public sets the bar so low. Avatar is a pile of hackneyed BS.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 28, 2009, 05:17:21 AM
Hello everyone. This question goes out to, in no particular order...Sarah, Martin, Chris L, Yesno, Auntie C, Buffcoat and anyone else who wants to weigh in. Avatar? I need to know what to think about that film. Perhaps those who love film will dismiss it. Thoughts, comments, concerns. Thank you in advance for any insight.
Sincerely, Steve.

Haven't seen it yet either. I'm not super excited about it, but since I'll watch it eventually, I might aswell watch it in 3D - probably sometime this week. I wasn't convinced of the 10 minute (3D) preview, and most of what I've heard about it sounds like crap. I have friends who worked on it, but they're all on the FX side of things, and I fully expect not having to lie to them about it looking well-made or whatever.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 28, 2009, 08:20:02 AM
I can be of no help:  I haven't seen it and won't till it comes to cable, if then.  

On another note, I watched Revolutionary Road last night and was unimpressed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 28, 2009, 09:30:47 AM
SJK - I don't go see a lot of movies, and I see even fewer 2 hour and 40 minute movies in the theater.

After I saw the trench/semi scene in Terminator 2, I announced myself "done with the need to be impressed by visual spectacle."

Mostly, though, I won't see any long mainstream movies in the theater anymore. 



On the other hand, I watched my brother play WII sports island and the whole flying the plane over the island thing did manage to hold my attention for 15 minutes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on December 28, 2009, 12:30:20 PM
The Smithsonian runs the IMAX theaters here and they suspiciously claim they tried to book it but were turned down by the studio.  

WTF? That's hilarious.  What, are they worried about the movie getting overexposed or something? It's not like they're rolling it out city by city to build word of mouth.

Also, nobody asked me, but I have zero interest in seeing Avatar.  The special effects look fake, and the story sounds like some low-rent L Ron Hubbard stuff.  When I see clips from it on TV and the net, I half expect Sigourney Weaver and Giovanni Ribisi to start talking about "leverage" and "man-animals". 

Also, I'm not convinced by anything being touted as "the next wave/reinvention of science fiction" that still includes the concept of "space marines". People have been writing cheesy SF stories about "space marines" for like 70 years now - enough already.

And anyway, if I want space marines, I'll watch Starship Troopers so that I can also enjoy gratuitous blood and nudity. (Human nudity, that is.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 28, 2009, 12:40:54 PM

And anyway, if I want space marines, I'll watch Starship Troopers so that I can also enjoy gratuitous blood and nudity. (Human nudity, that is.)

Ah, that takes me back to a simpler time on the internet when you fought on usenet instead of bulletin boards.

This movie made people so mad! it was awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 28, 2009, 12:46:18 PM
The Smithsonian runs the IMAX theaters here and they suspiciously claim they tried to book it but were turned down by the studio.  

WTF? That's hilarious.  What, are they worried about the movie getting overexposed or something? It's not like they're rolling it out city by city to build word of mouth.

Pure speculation, but the only thing I can figure is they're trying to cut the Smithsonian out and maximize profit at the smaller, AMC "fake imax" theaters instead.  You know, since that's just as good.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on December 28, 2009, 12:48:58 PM

And anyway, if I want space marines, I'll watch Starship Troopers so that I can also enjoy gratuitous blood and nudity. (Human nudity, that is.)

Ah, that takes me back to a simpler time on the internet when you fought on usenet instead of bulletin boards.

This movie made people so mad! it was awesome.

Yeah, people hated that movie.  For me, since it came out it's been sort of my acid test. Like, if you're not going to be more ridiculous, crazy, and absurd than Starship Troopers, why should I be interested?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 28, 2009, 12:54:43 PM

And anyway, if I want space marines, I'll watch Starship Troopers so that I can also enjoy gratuitous blood and nudity. (Human nudity, that is.)

Ah, that takes me back to a simpler time on the internet when you fought on usenet instead of bulletin boards.

This movie made people so mad! it was awesome.

Yeah, people hated that movie.  For me, since it came out it's been sort of my acid test. Like, if you're not going to be more ridiculous, crazy, and absurd than Starship Troopers, why should I be interested?

I've thought of this movie very recently when I got into a scuffle about Inglourious Baistriangeasdftghards. Yes, I do understand what QT was doing, and I do know how to take things not-so-seriously, and I don't need movies to make sense all the time etc etc.

I GET IT. I JUST DONT THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB DOING IT.

Now, a guy like Verhoeven, did he not pick up that football and run like a crazy man to the end zone on Starship?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on December 28, 2009, 01:21:03 PM
I've thought of this movie very recently when I got into a scuffle about Inglourious Baistriangeasdftghards. Yes, I do understand what QT was doing, and I do know how to take things not-so-seriously, and I don't need movies to make sense all the time etc etc.

I GET IT. I JUST DONT THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB DOING IT.

Now, a guy like Verhoeven, did he not pick up that football and run like a crazy man to the end zone on Starship?

Such a good point of comparison with those 2 flicks.  He did indeed run with that shit like a crazy man. Then he spiked the ball directly into someone's face. Then he tackled somebody so hard they were ripped in half.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 28, 2009, 01:27:59 PM

Such a good point of comparison with those 2 flicks.  He did indeed run with that shit like a crazy man. Then he spiked the ball directly into someone's face. Then he tackled somebody so hard they were ripped in half.

He's also one of the most entertaining people on commentary tracks ... it's been a while, but if I remember right, he is vibrating so much talking about this movie he's hovering 6 inches above his chair the whole time.

Goddamnit, I've got to get Black Books on the netflix ... I can't believe I haven't seen this yet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on December 28, 2009, 10:47:27 PM
Harry Knowles' dopey review of Avatar -

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43430


Mr. Beaks totally on-point pan of Avatar -

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43400
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 29, 2009, 07:52:06 AM
Harry Knowles' dopey review of Avatar -

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43430

Wow, I don't think I've ever read a Harry Knowles review, or at least it's been years. He's terrible. His writing is so juvenile it's embarrassing. It's like finding a term paper you wrote when you were 13.

Mr. Beaks totally on-point pan of Avatar -

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43400

Not much better, but at least we have complete sentences. You could fill a whole bingo card with the number of movie critic go-to words here.

And that's my review of these reviews.

My one word review for both would be: Pee-yew!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Why does Starship Troopers make people so angry?  I remember it as good, clean fun.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2009, 10:33:22 AM
Oh, and why does anyone take Harry Knowles seriously?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 29, 2009, 10:33:46 AM
Why Starship Troopers make people so angry?  I remember it as good, clean fun.

Why it make them so angry, indeed?  Why it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
How dare you, you swine.  I'm going to quit now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 29, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
Oh, and why does anyone take Harry Knowles seriously?

I"m not sure anyone does, except the chicken shit hollywood people who keep inviting him to premieres.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on December 29, 2009, 12:14:51 PM
How dare you, you swine.  I'm going to quit now.

How you be qui'-in' , Sarah?






Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 29, 2009, 12:26:14 PM
How dare you, you swine.  I'm going to quit now.


How dare I.  You might as well ask "how can I."  Or "how do I."  Or "which way to the train station." 


There's something missing from all these questions, but I can't figure out what it is.


































































I always fly too close to the sun.  Always.  I'm going to make an error of my own, or already have, but I don't care!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2009, 12:48:38 PM
You think you haen
I'm going to make an error of my own, or already have

"Or"?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 29, 2009, 04:18:08 PM
You think you haen
I'm going to make an error of my own, or already have

"Or"?

To make one error may be regarded as a misfortune; to make two looks like carelessness.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 29, 2009, 05:27:04 PM
I never did like to carry a handbag.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 31, 2009, 01:39:17 PM
I saw Avatar and Sherlock Holmes in Indiana.  I went in thinking both were going to be dumb and fun, and I wasn't disappointed.  Avatar was in Imax 3-D, which is the only way I'd even consider seeing it.  And yes, it was clearly sentimental, new-agey, crypto-racist Hollywood liberal nonsense, but it was a pretty awesome example of it.

I don't like Guy Ritchie movies at all, and I think making Sherlock and Mr. Watson into steampunk ass-kickers is a totally moronic idea, but I enjoyed it a lot, probably because of the actors (though Emma's right, Rachel mcAdams was godawful).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 01, 2010, 08:55:50 PM
Att. cinephiles: legendary critic Robin Wood passed away just before Christmas. Over the years he wrote a lot of essays and case studies for Film International (a film journal I'm one of the editors of). So I asked our former ed-in-chief Michael Tapper to write an obit, which he did. It's a great piece, and if you're so inclined, you can read it here: http://www.filmint.nu/?q=node/183
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on January 02, 2010, 11:43:44 AM
I saw Avatar and Sherlock Holmes in Indiana.  I went in thinking both were going to be dumb and fun, and I wasn't disappointed.  Avatar was in Imax 3-D, which is the only way I'd even consider seeing it.  And yes, it was clearly sentimental, new-agey, crypto-racist Hollywood liberal nonsense, but it was a pretty awesome example of it.

I'm glad there are some intelligent people out there who feel this way... I was starting to think I was siding with the dummies by enjoying it so much. Because of all the Dances With Wolves crud, though, I don't think it's really a movie built to last. Ten years from now very few people will be going back to watch it again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 02, 2010, 02:32:42 PM
I saw Avatar and Sherlock Holmes in Indiana.  I went in thinking both were going to be dumb and fun, and I wasn't disappointed.  Avatar was in Imax 3-D, which is the only way I'd even consider seeing it.  And yes, it was clearly sentimental, new-agey, crypto-racist Hollywood liberal nonsense, but it was a pretty awesome example of it.

I'm glad there are some intelligent people out there who feel this way... I was starting to think I was siding with the dummies by enjoying it so much. Because of all the Dances With Wolves crud, though, I don't think it's really a movie built to last. Ten years from now very few people will be going back to watch it again.

I think it could go either way -- it could have the nostalgia value of Star Wars for children of the 70s, or the mass appeal of Lord of the Rings, and that might help it get past its possible datedness.  Or maybe not, maybe we've hit a point where that kind of cultural impact is no longer possible.  Or, worst of all, we're giving posterity too much credit and that Dances With Wolves stuff won't even seem embarrassing.

And thanks for implying that I'm intelligent.  But yeah, my expectations were pretty low, and I had a blast.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on January 11, 2010, 04:44:47 PM
Someone posted this on Facebook. It's about people who get depressed after Avatar is over because they wish Pandora is real.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: todd on January 11, 2010, 05:29:08 PM
I'm really late on both of these but want to say:

Zombieland was far better than I thought it would be. And the big cameo thing isn't just funny because of who the cameo is and how it's performed, the jokes themselves are written very well. Small touches like when they both run into the room, and Woody Harrelson is wearing the suit, and the other guy is holding a vacuum? God damn small stuff like that makes me laugh. Because it means he only has one suit, and Woody wanted to wear it! That's funny, right? Right? Who's with me? Do you guys even GET IT? Jesus.

The Hurt Locker was really good but I think the hype kinda deflated it for me. It was good - I can't say anything bad about it, but it didn't grip me the way people say it gripped them.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on January 11, 2010, 10:46:45 PM
Tonight I was at a coffeeshop telling a friend how dopey I thought Avatar was. A hippie guy moved his chair down the bar just to interrupt and tell me how off-base I was. It reminded me so much of the Tom Waits argument on the Best Show where anyone who didn't like Waits just 'didn't get it'. This guys was upset because he thought I wasn't getting the powerful anti-war message. Ugh.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on January 11, 2010, 11:57:30 PM
Just recently watched Avatar, Sherlock Holmes and In The Loop.

Avatar, the pretty pictures caught me...also had very low expectations which I think allowed me to enjoy it. I didn't find anything revelational in it to interrupt a private discussion about how bad the film is.
This guys was upset because he thought I wasn't getting the powerful anti-war message. Ugh.
That hippie guy needs a lesson in minding his own business.

Sherlock Holmes, again great looking pictures and a good bit of fun with RDJ, JL and even RM who I didn't think was that bad.

In The Loop, sweet merciful s**t!! that was funny. That film title had been on the back burner since I had seen it mentioned here in this very thread?! I'll check on that. Samir from Florida mentioned it I think.

Thanks to those who chimed in on Avatar, earlier in this thread. Always interesting to know what you people think.   
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on January 12, 2010, 07:40:29 AM
Tonight I was at a coffeeshop telling a friend how dopey I thought Avatar was. A hippie guy moved his chair down the bar just to interrupt and tell me how off-base I was. It reminded me so much of the Tom Waits argument on the Best Show where anyone who didn't like Waits just 'didn't get it'. This guys was upset because he thought I wasn't getting the powerful anti-war message. Ugh.

It's pretty funny to see how many people are reacting to this movie. I'm sure at one time in my life, it could have defined certain elements for me as far as how I felt about the world and religion, etc. I'm sure if I wasn't thinking for myself, I could have gotten swept up in the message. The people I saw it with really, really loved it. I felt bad telling them that I didn't like it too much but I did because I was actually disappointed. I guess I was expecting something like The Matrix, which I truly loved (the first one at least).  I think I would have liked Avatar more if someone had edited it better, but I don't remember the last time I've seen people so opinionated about a movie. I wonder if they feel how I felt after it took 4 years for Back to the Future II to come out...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on January 12, 2010, 07:49:56 AM
I don't remember the last time I've seen people so opinionated about a movie.

I think that would be last summer with The Dark Knight. I have had a couple similar experiences with near-strangers getting angry with me for not liking it (in one case a guy at a party who would just NOT LET THE SUBJECT DROP and started to seem a bit disturbed).

Doug Benson goes on a bit of a rant this week on Comedy and Everything Else regarding the backlash he caught for making a few harmless jokes about Avatar via Twitter.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on January 12, 2010, 08:14:46 AM
Someone posted this on Facebook. It's about people who get depressed after Avatar is over because they wish Pandora is real.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

Ha - what a bunch of pathetic nerds!

(...says a guy who gets depressed after the Best Show because he wishes Philly Boy Roy was real.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on January 12, 2010, 09:30:07 AM
In The Loop, sweet merciful s**t!! that was funny. That film title had been on the back burner since I had seen it mentioned here in this very thread?! I'll check on that. Samir from Florida mentioned it I think.

You're welcome.

I caught an advance of The Lovely Bones the other day, and it was pretty bad. The pretty heaven stuff looked to me like an elaborate screensaver, and when Marky Mark was onscreen, all I could think of was him talking to animals.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 12, 2010, 09:41:26 AM
Finally saw "District 9" last night.  Loved it.

I was not expecting that it would have so much of a "Robocop" feel.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 12, 2010, 11:01:09 AM
Saw Avatar in IMAX 3D last night, it was my third try since every other time was sold out.  The projector malfunctioned right at the start of the Alice in Wonderland trailer and I had a chance to leave but I decided to stick around and get watching the dumb movie out of the way.  It was pretty to look at but that story was so lazy it drove me nuts.  If it had been an hour shorter and mostly just action like the last 30 min. I probably would've liked it a lot more.  I got a free IMAX ticket out of it at least.

I SEE YOU.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 12, 2010, 03:56:03 PM
I watched Category Six: Day of Destruction this weekend.  Both parts.  It was fantastic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on January 16, 2010, 12:51:27 AM
http://www.avatar-forums.com/general-avatar-forum/43-ways-cope-depression-dream-pandora-being-intangible-51.html#post22067

Quote
Well I went into the movie yesterday thinking I was just going to see a sci-fi romp. Little did I know it would change my life forever. I sat in the theater after it was over just stunned, and then I began to cry. I was ripped apart with feelings I had never had before, hate for myself and my species, hate for my capitalistic and worthless society, and a feeling of such despair that I would never be able to know the Na’vi or their superior culture and way of life. I was there just thinking and crying for about 15 minutes before an usher asked me to leave. I told him I never wanted to leave and he was confused for a second. Then he said I had to go and if I wanted to see this “crappy movie” again I’d have to pay for another ticket. Well to cut to the chase it got a bit heated at that point and we ended up in a shoving match. The police officer who took me out of there didn’t seem to care either. When I told him he was a tool of an oppressive society that is destroying the world he laughed at me. Now I’ve got a charge against me for public disturbance but I don’t care. Hopefully that jerk usher got fired.

The next day I saw it at a different theater in 3d. All of a sudden the world was as real as my own. At the end I stood up and started telling the people that they were the bad guys and were killing the Na’vi everyday with their western society. I said look at Afghanistan! I got cussed out and had a soda thrown on me but I wore those like a badge of honor, I felt like a Na’vi standing against human oppression and sickness. I just wished I had a weapon at that point and could have fought like Jake did. Jake was so strong. I began to wish that I could be like a new Hitler, only instead of exterminating one race I’d do the whole human race then shoot myself at the end. My mom always said I get too wrapped up in this stuff but she is an idiot who is just as much part of the problem as every other American. I told her when I got home and she cried but I don’t care anymore, I’m 35 and I can do what I want in my room and don’t have to take any “medicine” if I don’t want to. Did the Na’vi take pills to “get better” Did the Indians? Nope.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: NJL on January 16, 2010, 12:57:57 AM
http://www.avatar-forums.com/general-avatar-forum/43-ways-cope-depression-dream-pandora-being-intangible-51.html#post22067

Quote
Well I went into the movie yesterday thinking I was just going to see a sci-fi romp. Little did I know it would change my life forever. I sat in the theater after it was over just stunned, and then I began to cry. I was ripped apart with feelings I had never had before, hate for myself and my species, hate for my capitalistic and worthless society, and a feeling of such despair that I would never be able to know the Na’vi or their superior culture and way of life. I was there just thinking and crying for about 15 minutes before an usher asked me to leave. I told him I never wanted to leave and he was confused for a second. Then he said I had to go and if I wanted to see this “crappy movie” again I’d have to pay for another ticket. Well to cut to the chase it got a bit heated at that point and we ended up in a shoving match. The police officer who took me out of there didn’t seem to care either. When I told him he was a tool of an oppressive society that is destroying the world he laughed at me. Now I’ve got a charge against me for public disturbance but I don’t care. Hopefully that jerk usher got fired.

The next day I saw it at a different theater in 3d. All of a sudden the world was as real as my own. At the end I stood up and started telling the people that they were the bad guys and were killing the Na’vi everyday with their western society. I said look at Afghanistan! I got cussed out and had a soda thrown on me but I wore those like a badge of honor, I felt like a Na’vi standing against human oppression and sickness. I just wished I had a weapon at that point and could have fought like Jake did. Jake was so strong. I began to wish that I could be like a new Hitler, only instead of exterminating one race I’d do the whole human race then shoot myself at the end. My mom always said I get too wrapped up in this stuff but she is an idiot who is just as much part of the problem as every other American. I told her when I got home and she cried but I don’t care anymore, I’m 35 and I can do what I want in my room and don’t have to take any “medicine” if I don’t want to. Did the Na’vi take pills to “get better” Did the Indians? Nope.

Fake.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 16, 2010, 08:49:23 AM
This is pretty funny:

http://autotelic.com/avatar_-_the_metacontextual_edition
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on January 16, 2010, 10:36:06 AM
http://www.avatar-forums.com/general-avatar-forum/43-ways-cope-depression-dream-pandora-being-intangible-51.html#post22067

Quote
Well I went into the movie yesterday thinking I was just going to see a sci-fi romp. Little did I know it would change my life forever. I sat in the theater after it was over just stunned, and then I began to cry. I was ripped apart with feelings I had never had before, hate for myself and my species, hate for my capitalistic and worthless society, and a feeling of such despair that I would never be able to know the Na’vi or their superior culture and way of life. I was there just thinking and crying for about 15 minutes before an usher asked me to leave. I told him I never wanted to leave and he was confused for a second. Then he said I had to go and if I wanted to see this “crappy movie” again I’d have to pay for another ticket. Well to cut to the chase it got a bit heated at that point and we ended up in a shoving match. The police officer who took me out of there didn’t seem to care either. When I told him he was a tool of an oppressive society that is destroying the world he laughed at me. Now I’ve got a charge against me for public disturbance but I don’t care. Hopefully that jerk usher got fired.

The next day I saw it at a different theater in 3d. All of a sudden the world was as real as my own. At the end I stood up and started telling the people that they were the bad guys and were killing the Na’vi everyday with their western society. I said look at Afghanistan! I got cussed out and had a soda thrown on me but I wore those like a badge of honor, I felt like a Na’vi standing against human oppression and sickness. I just wished I had a weapon at that point and could have fought like Jake did. Jake was so strong. I began to wish that I could be like a new Hitler, only instead of exterminating one race I’d do the whole human race then shoot myself at the end. My mom always said I get too wrapped up in this stuff but she is an idiot who is just as much part of the problem as every other American. I told her when I got home and she cried but I don’t care anymore, I’m 35 and I can do what I want in my room and don’t have to take any “medicine” if I don’t want to. Did the Na’vi take pills to “get better” Did the Indians? Nope.

Fake.

Fake, but pretty funny.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on January 16, 2010, 12:03:19 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://autotelic.com/avatar_-_the_metacontextual_edition

Love it. Must have taken a long time to write!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 16, 2010, 12:35:14 PM
I like to think he wrote it in real time, during the actual movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 16, 2010, 07:59:57 PM
I watched Public Enemies, which was kinda bleh.  As usual, Mann is a wizard with digital video and shoot-outs, not so much w/ character or drama this time. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 16, 2010, 11:05:57 PM
A co-worker recommended "Across The Universe."  I just watched it and unequivocally disliked it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 16, 2010, 11:10:25 PM
A co-worker recommended "Across The Universe."  I just watched it and unequivocally disliked it.

It's a horrible, horrible trainwreck.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2010, 03:25:51 AM
A co-worker recommended "Across The Universe."  I just watched it and unequivocally disliked it.

It's a horrible, horrible trainwreck.

One of the worst movies of the last five years or so.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JustNicole on January 17, 2010, 09:14:15 AM
A co-worker recommended "Across The Universe."  I just watched it and unequivocally disliked it.

It's a horrible, horrible trainwreck.

One of the worst movies of the last five years or so.

Anyone who can actually make Eddie Izzard not funny deserves a special Oscar for that.

I like to think he wrote it in real time, during the actual movie.

Ah, that makes sense. So, he only would have really had to have watched it once (which was once too many times for me).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 17, 2010, 11:46:40 AM
I just watched Anvil: The Story of Anvil.  Oh, man, totally heartbreaking.  I hope it gets nominated for best documentary or something and they play at the Oscars.

It makes a sort of interesting bookend with the GBV movie Watch Me Jumpstart, which I watched a few days ago. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: samir on January 17, 2010, 12:30:53 PM
I just watched Anvil: The Story of Anvil.  Oh, man, totally heartbreaking.  I hope it gets nominated for best documentary or something and they play at the Oscars.

Anvil will not be nominated at the Oscars, sadly.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/11/18/oscars-documentary-shortlist-no-anvil-no-capitalism/
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 17, 2010, 02:43:56 PM
God, I hate the Oscars.  They're like the Jay Leno of awards ceremonies.  Actually most awards ceremonies are the Jay Leno of awards ceremonies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on January 17, 2010, 03:24:47 PM
I don't really know much about Woody Allen movies, having generally avoided his stuff, I've seen What's Up Tiger Lily and Everything You've Always Wanted To Know About Sex, but last weekend my girlfriend and I watched Vicky Christina Barcelona and totally got hooked.  The narration in the first, say, 30 minutes - pure dry sarcasm.  Yesterday we watched a double header of Cassandra's Dream and Whatever Works and now can't get enough.  Not sure what to watch next, his filmography is pretty daunting, a friend suggested What's New Pussycat? and Love and Death - he can't believe I'm going to be watching Woody Allen films for the first time.  My girlfriend wants to watch Matchpoint and Scoop next 'cause she likes Scarlett J.  Any other recommendations?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
The cream: Annie Hall, Manhattan, Broadway Danny Rose, Radio Days, Crimes & Misdemeanors, Take the Money and Run, Zelig, Hannah and Her Sisters...

Also: Manhattan Murder Mystery, Bulletts Over Broadway, Stardust Memories, Bananas, Mighty Aphrodite, Shadows and Fog, Play It Again Sam (not director)...

Some prefer his 'earlier, funny' films (there's a distinct change of tone, and a move away from silliness, from Annie Hall and onward) and don't like serious Woody, but I think he's great doing both.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 17, 2010, 10:26:37 PM
Martin's list is good.  I would add Interiors to the cream list.

Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy is not bad.  Love and Death is good. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on January 17, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
As a kid I loved Sleeper and recently I tried to watch it again and it didn't work out. I also rewatched Annie Hall recently and I think that one might be getting better with age. I know it's not the best but I love the hell out of Shadows and Fog.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: thom on January 17, 2010, 11:03:52 PM
Avatar took in two big golden globes...




Which is fitting, because that movie sucked balls.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb273/toshiromifunesletteropener/RIMSHOT.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 18, 2010, 06:35:40 AM
I agree with Martin's "cream" list but would add Love and Death. It's the last "early silly" movie and, IMO, the funniest. Also, it's packed with references to Russian literature so you can feel superior when you get references that someone else watching doesn't.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on January 18, 2010, 07:24:07 AM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list. 

Watched the tail end of The Golden Globes last night.  When the cast of The Hangover was on stage presenting, no Zach.  What the hell?  He was the best thing in that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 18, 2010, 08:10:57 AM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 18, 2010, 09:10:48 AM
A co-worker recommended "Across The Universe."  I just watched it and unequivocally disliked it.

It's a horrible, horrible trainwreck.

My kids both adore it.

Sometimes your progeny is a source of great heartache.

But at least in YOUR case, I bet no one in your household owns the soundtrack.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 18, 2010, 11:01:39 AM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.

Now, be fair.  I give "Match Point" a 7 on the Woodmeter (not THAT Woodmeter).  Scoop is not so good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 18, 2010, 11:52:22 AM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.

Now, be fair.  I give "Match Point" a 7 on the Woodmeter (not THAT Woodmeter).  Scoop is not so good.

I really disliked Match Point. I couldn't even make it through to the end. I would re-watch Scoop or Melinda and Melinda (which I also did not finish) before I would try to re-watch Match Point. This could've been a case of outsized expectations since the word was that Match Point was his big comeback, his masterpiece, his best film, blah blah blah.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 18, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.

Now, be fair.  I give "Match Point" a 7 on the Woodmeter (not THAT Woodmeter).  Scoop is not so good.

I really disliked Match Point. I couldn't even make it through to the end. I would re-watch Scoop or Melinda and Melinda (which I also did not finish) before I would try to re-watch Match Point. This could've been a case of outsized expectations since the word was that Match Point was his big comeback, his masterpiece, his best film, blah blah blah.

What were your problems with it?  It didn't quite live up to the hype for me either, but I thought it was pretty solid.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 18, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.

Now, be fair.  I give "Match Point" a 7 on the Woodmeter (not THAT Woodmeter).  Scoop is not so good.

I really disliked Match Point. I couldn't even make it through to the end. I would re-watch Scoop or Melinda and Melinda (which I also did not finish) before I would try to re-watch Match Point. This could've been a case of outsized expectations since the word was that Match Point was his big comeback, his masterpiece, his best film, blah blah blah.

What were your problems with it?  It didn't quite live up to the hype for me either, but I thought it was pretty solid.

Thematically it seemed to cover nearly the same ground as Crimes & Misdemeanors, except less skillfully and with characters that I hated.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 18, 2010, 01:51:11 PM
I will say that the end is actually the best part.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 18, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
Thanks, guys.  I think I'm going to watch Scoop, Matchpoint, then move on to the cream list.  

Fair warning, but you may not be in the mood for any more Woody Allen after those two.

Now, be fair.  I give "Match Point" a 7 on the Woodmeter (not THAT Woodmeter).  Scoop is not so good.

I really disliked Match Point. I couldn't even make it through to the end. I would re-watch Scoop or Melinda and Melinda (which I also did not finish) before I would try to re-watch Match Point. This could've been a case of outsized expectations since the word was that Match Point was his big comeback, his masterpiece, his best film, blah blah blah.

What were your problems with it?  It didn't quite live up to the hype for me either, but I thought it was pretty solid.

Thematically it seemed to cover nearly the same ground as Crimes & Misdemeanors, except less skillfully and with characters that I hated.

I can see that.  I really don't like Jonathan Rhys Meyers and its when I started losing interest in Scarlett.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 19, 2010, 09:38:45 AM
The cream: Annie Hall, Manhattan, Broadway Danny Rose, Radio Days, Crimes & Misdemeanors, Take the Money and Run, Zelig, Hannah and Her Sisters...

Also: Manhattan Murder Mystery, Bulletts Over Broadway, Stardust Memories, Bananas, Mighty Aphrodite, Shadows and Fog, Play It Again Sam (not director)...

Some prefer his 'earlier, funny' films (there's a distinct change of tone, and a move away from silliness, from Annie Hall and onward) and don't like serious Woody, but I think he's great doing both.

Another vote here for Love and Death as one of his best early funny movies.  I have also become more of a fan of Husbands and Wives as of late.  Some dear friends of ours just became the Sydney Pollack, Judy Davis couple in that movie, and so now I realize how incredibly insightful the movie is.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 19, 2010, 09:49:16 AM
Oh shit, I completely forgot about Husbands and Wifes! That's absolutely up there as one of his Greats.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 19, 2010, 10:09:05 AM
Husbands & Wives is kind of a demarcation line for me, as I think it's his last great one (what happened to Judy Davis' film career anyway?).  Sweet & Lowdown is the most recent I've seen that I would recommend.   He's utterly and irrevocably lost his touch, in my opinion.  After Vicky Christina I don't think any amount of critical praise could persuade me to check out anything new from him.  That movie was insufferable. 

I didn't bother with Match Point, actually, since as has been pointed out it sounded like a watered-down Crimes & Misdemeanors retread.  Also, Ebert seemed to be beating the drum for it earliest and loudest, so there you go.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on January 19, 2010, 11:11:51 AM
I basically agree with everyone's appraisal - I totally follow conventional wisdom when it comes to Woody. I like his "early, funny" movies, and he was reliably great right up to Husbands & Wives.

I will throw in a recommendation for "Deconstructing Harry", in my opinion his last movie that's actually funny. I checked out after "Curse of the Jade Scorpion." Haven't seen any of his recent spate of "he's still got it"/"not as bad as usual" movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 19, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
I didn't bother with Match Point, actually, since as has been pointed out it sounded like a watered-down Crimes & Misdemeanors retread. 

I felt that Match Point came to the exact opposite conclusion regarding morality than did Crimes & Misdemeanors.  So it is not really a retread. But then it sucks for new reasons...specifically because the man behind the two films has no consistent philosophy to express.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on January 19, 2010, 08:11:24 PM
I watched Public Enemies, which was kinda bleh.  As usual, Mann is a wizard with digital video and shoot-outs, not so much w/ character or drama this time. 

Is this the equivalent of the diner scene in Heat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrcgjMJmvNg
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 19, 2010, 08:41:35 PM
I basically agree with everyone's appraisal - I totally follow conventional wisdom when it comes to Woody. I like his "early, funny" movies, and he was reliably great right up to Husbands & Wives.

I will throw in a recommendation for "Deconstructing Harry", in my opinion his last movie that's actually funny. I checked out after "Curse of the Jade Scorpion." Haven't seen any of his recent spate of "he's still got it"/"not as bad as usual" movies.

I like Deconstructing Harry, but I wouldn't put it on the list of his greatest movies. I do think Husbands and Wives is great, but I also really like the two that followed: Manhattan Murder Mystery (not really, more like really enjoyable fluff) and Bullets Over Broadway (which I love and is, I think, his last truly great movie).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: harris on January 20, 2010, 10:51:59 AM
The Woody Allen drama's like Husbands and Wives, Hannah and her Sister, Interiors, Crimes and Misdomeaners, Manhattan and Stardust Memories are all really good films but they tend to all blend together in my memory, which is an irritating problem.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 20, 2010, 05:33:16 PM
The Woody Allen drama's like Husbands and Wives, Hannah and her Sister, Interiors, Crimes and Misdomeaners, Manhattan and Stardust Memories are all really good films but they tend to all blend together in my memory, which is an irritating problem.

I see Stardust Memories as more of a comedy, but it's definitely closer to a drama than most of his others.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on January 20, 2010, 05:44:57 PM
I'll take Vicki Christina and Match Point over some of the later films Woody starred in like Mighty Aphrodite or Small Time Crooks.  His acting kills a lot of his movies for me.  Bullets Over Broadway may be my favorite -- "Don't speak!"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on January 22, 2010, 10:54:04 AM
Just watched the Crying Game again, good movie. Forrest Whittaker is solid, the whole story moves along at a nice clip. I forgot about the funny bits.

Did people really not know that was a dude right away back then? I feel like today we'd know right off.

The again I forgot how soon in the story it was revealed so its not like the director thought he could string us along for the whole thing.

I like Irish accents esp on chicks (no offense).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on January 22, 2010, 12:34:49 PM
I'll take Vicki Christina and Match Point over some of the later films Woody starred in like Mighty Aphrodite or Small Time Crooks.  His acting kills a lot of his movies for me.  Bullets Over Broadway may be my favorite -- "Don't speak!"

I have fond memories of Radio Days and Zelig.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: chuck from cedar rapids on January 22, 2010, 01:57:17 PM
I watched "Crank" for the first time in a couple years. Crank 2 was solid, but the first movie really shines. I've done a bit of video editing and shoot since my first viewing and I was really blown away with some of the shots they were able to get. Crank 2 is even more impressive in this respect.

It's hard to go wrong with Jason Statham. He may be in some awful movies but he almost always turns in an entertaining performance and really seems to enjoy what he does.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 22, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
I watched "Crank" for the first time in a couple years. Crank 2 was solid, but the first movie really shines. I've done a bit of video editing and shoot since my first viewing and I was really blown away with some of the shots they were able to get. Crank 2 is even more impressive in this respect.

It's hard to go wrong with Jason Statham. He may be in some awful movies but he almost always turns in an entertaining performance and really seems to enjoy what he does.

The Transporter is one of my favorite bad movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 23, 2010, 10:45:11 AM
Just watched the Crying Game again, good movie. Forrest Whittaker is solid, the whole story moves along at a nice clip. I forgot about the funny bits.

Did people really not know that was a dude right away back then? I feel like today we'd know right off.

The again I forgot how soon in the story it was revealed so its not like the director thought he could string us along for the whole thing.

I like Irish accents esp on chicks (no offense).

The hands.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 28, 2010, 11:01:51 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pypMXSpZDQ[/youtube]

Am I late in hearing about this?  A sequel to Big Money Hustlas? 

Early buzz is good!  According to someone on IMDB: "All in all, if you liked Hustlas, you'll love Rustlas."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 28, 2010, 11:43:28 AM
It belongs in this thread, but yeah, it's been posted in at least two other threads.  ;)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 28, 2010, 04:53:38 PM
Finally watched Un prophète today. Very impressive. Powerhouse performances. Rich, multilayered, never over-explanatory but always accessible, clever but not too slick. Open to a variety of readings: prison-as-society/France/Europe, religious parable, straight-up criminal-rise-to-power genre film, etc. Also, on a purely visceral level, it contains some seriously intense scenes that almost had me cover my eyes.

Straight into my top 10 of 2009.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on January 28, 2010, 05:13:09 PM
Finally watched Un prophète today. Very impressive. Powerhouse performances. Rich, multilayered, never over-explanatory but always accessible, clever but not too slick. Open to a variety of readings: prison-as-society/France/Europe, religious parable, straight-up criminal-rise-to-power genre film, etc. Also, on a purely visceral level, it contains some seriously intense scenes that almost had me cover my eyes.

Straight into my top 10 of 2009.

do you happen to know of a French (I think) film about a company of soldiers
marching somewhere and either their prisoners or lower ranking men are Muslim and the other guys are trying to make them drink water during Ramadan?

I just remember catching a snippet of that years ago and could never put a name to it
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 28, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
I believe you're referring to Indigènes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0444182) (aka Days of Glory), which is the work of French-Algerian director Rachid Bouchareb. Bouchareb most recently directed a film called London River (2009), a pretty interesting take on the aftermath of the 2005 terror attacks in London. Well worth seeking out.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on January 28, 2010, 07:27:40 PM
I believe you're referring to Indigènes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0444182) (aka Days of Glory), which is the work of French-Algerian director Rachid Bouchareb. Bouchareb most recently directed a film called London River (2009), a pretty interesting take on the aftermath of the 2005 terror attacks in London. Well worth seeking out.

Thanks checking now

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 01, 2010, 08:39:08 PM
Is there such a thing as a Dutch film?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 01, 2010, 08:44:51 PM
Yes. But there's not a whole lot of them, at least not on the international scene, festival circuit etc. This (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119448/) won the foreign language Oscar ten years ago. Verhoeven returned a few years ago and made Zwartboek - thought that was pretty good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 02, 2010, 10:47:39 AM
They couldn't have picked a better year to go back to 10 best picture nominees.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 02, 2010, 08:29:02 PM
They couldn't have picked a better year to go back to 10 best picture nominees.

I'm going to be so in the flesh if Avatar wins Best Picture.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 02, 2010, 08:33:47 PM
They couldn't have picked a better year to go back to 10 best picture nominees.


They all deserve to be nominated!  Everyone worked so hard!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 03, 2010, 09:40:00 AM
They couldn't have picked a better year to go back to 10 best picture nominees.

I'm going to be so in the flesh if Avatar wins Best Picture.

Even though I didn't like it, I can't get too worked up if it wins since I'm expecting it to. I hope Bigelow can at least win director so we don't have to listen to a Cameron speech.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 03, 2010, 10:49:27 AM
They couldn't have picked a better year to go back to 10 best picture nominees.

I'm going to be so in the flesh if Avatar wins Best Picture.

Even though I didn't like it, I can't get too worked up if it wins since I'm expecting it to. I hope Bigelow can at least win director so we don't have to listen to a Cameron speech.

Oh, I'm totally expecting it to win. If Bigelow wins director, I hope she gives her speech in Navi.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on February 07, 2010, 12:05:09 PM
If you hate laughter and don't much care for smiling, you're going to love the Les Claypool-directed spoof I'm watching on Netflix called "National Lampoon Presents: Electric Apricot: Quest for Festeroo (http://instantwatcher.com/titles/25094)"!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on February 08, 2010, 11:09:07 PM
Sick day, #2. Watched Hump Day which was much better than i expected, especially the acting/dialogue -

http://instantwatcher.com/titles/56298

Then watched Big Fan and liked it a lot. Also watched The Snake and can't decide if I liked it as a movie, but that guy's character was pretty unforgettable & watchable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 09, 2010, 11:27:26 AM
Saw Crazy Heart over the weekend. Not a great movie, and Maggie Gyllenhaal's character was annoying, but it's worth seeing for Bridges, who will hopefully win an Oscar for his performance.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 09, 2010, 11:36:55 AM
I watched Temple Grandin this weekend.  Pretty good. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on February 09, 2010, 04:23:33 PM
I forgot to bring up Me & Orson Welles, which I saw over the holidays. It's really too bad it got so little attention because it's terrific. I think it stacks up well against Linklater's best work, and to my surprise Zac Efron is a really charming actor.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 01, 2010, 11:02:30 PM
I watched The Night Porter (1974) tonight. I don't really know what to think about it but I think I liked it. At first blush, the movie strikes as nothing but exploitative. I get the feeling there is more there, but I'm not quite sure what the movie is trying to say, so I'm not sure why I like it. I think that's a sign of an interesting movie, at the least.

At the very least, it's pretty gorgeous looking despite the deteriorated nature of the film (so bad that a Criterion restore didn't make it flawless).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on March 01, 2010, 11:08:25 PM
I watched The Night Porter (1974) tonight.

I love Charlotte Rampling ...starting with those early swinging London movies through all her crazy cuckoo roles up to this day.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 02, 2010, 10:29:23 AM
I watched The Night Porter (1974) tonight.

I love Charlotte Rampling ...starting with those early swinging London movies through all her crazy cuckoo roles up to this day.

Liked her in Stardust Memories, although I think I only understood about a third of what she said.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 02, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
I watched The Night Porter (1974) tonight.

I love Charlotte Rampling ...starting with those early swinging London movies through all her crazy cuckoo roles up to this day.

She had maybe 5 lines in The Night Porter and yet she was an indelible presence.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on March 05, 2010, 12:05:50 PM
Just caught two movies in the actual movie theater, because I was on a work trip, and how else do you kill time in the evening?  I believe that I shall start going to the theater more.  It's a good way to go "out" but do the kinds of things you were going to do at home anyway.

Anyway, "An Education" is really good, and I finally caught "Avatar 3D."  3D is cool.  As for the movie, I hope there's a sequel where it turns out that the Earth in the Avatar universe is the same as the Earth in "Starship Troopers," and the humans come back in force to stick it to those giant blue woods hippies and avenge the Colonel.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on March 05, 2010, 10:29:26 PM
Randomly watched Midnight Cowboy via Netflix and really loved it.

That line, "Hey fella, you fell!" - am I imagining that, or was it mentioned on the Best Show once?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 05, 2010, 11:10:39 PM
Tom's angriest schtick - so pissed off he can barely speak - is redolent of Ratso Rizzo.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 06, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
I do this blog, very irregularly. It's got like, maybe 7 readers, at least 2 of whom are related to me, and one of whom works for me.

It frequently has to do with career achievement in film for actors, based on the strength of the films they have clawed their ways into and their prominence in those films.

FOT Lisa Jane Persky, the most important film actor in MY life, read part of it, and didn't hate it.

If you are interested, here's a recent post.

http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2010/03/06/bernie-mac-rip/ (http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2010/03/06/bernie-mac-rip/)

Thank you for your consideration.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 06, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
I do this blog, very irregularly. It's got like, maybe 7 readers, at least 2 of whom are related to me, and one of whom works for me.

It frequently has to do with career achievement in film for actors, based on the strength of the films they have clawed their ways into and their prominence in those films.

FOT Lisa Jane Persky, the most important film actor in MY life, read part of it, and didn't hate it.

If you are interested, here's a recent post.

http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2010/03/06/bernie-mac-rip/ (http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2010/03/06/bernie-mac-rip/)

Thank you for your consideration.



I thought you were going to be ripping Bernie Mac.  I can't decide whether I'm relieved or disappointed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on March 06, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
This is the best documentary I've seen since Red Without Blue. It's called "Trust Us, This is All Made Up" and is streaming on Netflix.
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnuohnCNUY4[/youtube]

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on March 08, 2010, 11:23:32 PM
Saw A Prophet yesterday and The Ghostwriter tonight. Good week for me. Both were really, really, really good.

The Polanski movie is rightfully being held up next to Hitchcock. It also reminded me of DePalma's Blow Out in the way it mashes all kinds of rumours and suspicions about the government and other bits and pieces of free-floating cultural paranoia together into a satisfyingly ridiculous nightmare scenario.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on March 08, 2010, 11:58:59 PM
Saw Extract, better than I thought.

Took my daughter to see Alice in Wonderland which I was ok with until...

SPOILER ALERT!!!

The Mad Hatter does this ridiculous dance of joy at the end after Alice defeats the Jabberwocky that was so contrived and really didn't have any place in the film at all. A friend of mine argued that it was for the kids but I argue that the whole friggin' movie is for the kids and can't we make a kids film with some dignity? Anyway, it was still better than Willy Wonka and Planet of the Apes put together.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Jouster on March 09, 2010, 06:31:26 AM
I haven't seen Alice in Wonderland yet, but there was a noticeable difference in quality between Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (not a remake of Willy Wonka, despite the Oompa Loompa, though it had its problems) and Planet of the Apes (just dumb and bad).  Putting them side-by-side seems wrong to me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 09, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
I watched Watchmen yesterday.  Time Warner's blurb told me it was "gripping and transcendent," but I found it pretentious, prolix, muddy, and dull,* qualities all captured in the following remarkable sentence: "What nocturnal proclivities entice a man with everything out into the night at this hour?"  All in all, I think more of that blue penis that got everyone so flustered would have been an improvement.

Other movies viewed over the last couple of days:  RocknRolla (boring, but entertaining soundtrack), Pineapple Express (boring), Grand Theft Parsons (boring, but slightly less so and sweet to boot, and nice soundtrack).  There were more, but I can't remember them right now.  I enjoyed the marathon of American Gothic on Chiller much more than any of them.

*Oh, yeah--"silly" as well.  Mind you, I'm perfectly capable of enjoying foolishness (witness my pleasure in American Gothic); this example of it just didn't grab me.  Maybe if I'd read the graphic novel.  But then I'm sure I would have preferred the original, so what's the point?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: bakersfieldchimp on March 09, 2010, 09:47:41 AM
Went out to a showing of The Room last night-- I'd watched it on my computer, so my ladyfriend and I were prepared for how bad it was, but what we weren't prepared for was the Rocky Horror treatment it got from the audience, which balanced precariously on the fine line between being entertaining and being annoying (or frightening, when they knew the words to the songs in the sex scenes). It was worth it overall, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Reeleyes on March 09, 2010, 10:24:05 AM
I haven't seen Alice in Wonderland yet, but there was a noticeable difference in quality between Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (not a remake of Willy Wonka, despite the Oompa Loompa, though it had its problems) and Planet of the Apes (just dumb and bad).  Putting them side-by-side seems wrong to me.

I agree that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was better than Planet of the Apes but I think they are both low on my personal ranking of Burton's films.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 09, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
Sidenote:  This morning, as my sister was reporting to me that for the first time a woman had won the "Best Director" Oscar, she told me Bigelow had directed a movie called "The Footlocker."   Figured I'd share the laugh.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on March 09, 2010, 01:03:05 PM
That's great! "Footlocker" would be the B movie equivalent made in Newbridge by Trent L Strauss accidentally starring Bryce and his lean-to. I'll leave it up to others on this board to imagine the plot.

I like that she made a film like Break Point and then over a long period of time came up with Hurt Locker. I found HL to be a very good film, depressing, but good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 09, 2010, 01:19:41 PM
Re-watched Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones with my kids over the last two days.  Where's the line forming to slap George Lucas in the face?

These two films actually made me look forward to Revenge of the Sith.  It's Aguirre, Wrath of God in comparison.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 09, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
Sidenote:  This morning, as my sister was reporting to me that for the first time a woman had won the "Best Director" Oscar, she told me Bigelow had directed a movie called "The Footlocker."   Figured I'd share the laugh.

I believe it was either Wes or Chris L who, on Twitter during the Oscars, cracked-wise something about "Lady Hurt Locker".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 09, 2010, 01:54:55 PM
I believe it was either Wes or Chris L who, on Twitter during the Oscars, cracked-wise something about "Lady Hurt Locker".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on March 09, 2010, 02:30:35 PM
I believe it was probably pretty much everybody who, on Twitter during the Oscars, cracked-wise something about "Lady Hurt Locker".

I think what I like best about Twitter is that, when something notable is on TV, it temporarily makes everybody become as unbearable as I am.

I finally got to see A Serious Man last weekend and thought it was great. It should have been the screenplay winner over The Hurt Locker, which was also great. I'll have to see it a few more times before thinking about bumping it ahead of my three favorite Coen movies from the other thread (Miller's Crossing, No Country, Raising Arizona), but I feel like it's right at that level. Their best ending?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 09, 2010, 03:39:03 PM

I think what I like best about Twitter is that, when something notable is on TV, it temporarily makes everybody become as unbearable as I am.


Aw, Wesley, give yourself more credit than that!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 09, 2010, 04:13:20 PM
My sister said it in all innocence.  She has never heard the show, and she thought her mistake was funny only because she envisioned a movie about one of these:

(http://www.ugandamission.net/travel/image/footlocker.jpg)



I think what I like best about Twitter is that, when something notable is on TV, it temporarily makes everybody become as unbearable as I am.


Aw, Wesley, give yourself more credit than that!

And here I took it as a shameless fishing expedition.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 10, 2010, 11:30:45 PM
I have an odd world view that requires that I filter personal opinions about the worth of art through a web of numbers. I know, it makes no sense, and it's a nightmare at times to keep up with all the rules my head sets up for myself. Still, sometimes I post these lists if for no other reason than some people are either entertained by them, or at least dismayed in an entertaining way that stimulates discussion that frequently covers topics such as "Really?", and "Why don't you seek help?", and "I really feel sorry for you, but more for your loved ones."

So the deal here is that for 4 years I have been attempting to establish a listing of movie actors. For each actor, for each of their films, I assign a number that is a combination of the actor's prominence in a film, along with the quality of the film. I then cull out their best ten performances, and rank the actors according to this sum of scores for their ten best roles. I am hoping for some sort of "Accomplishment in film acting" measure. Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but I am compelled to do it, and further compelled to share it. I am working my way alphabetically, and am limiting my work currently to actors who are still pursuing the craft; that is, at the moments, actors who have appeared in at least one theatrical release in the last 3 years. So here's the top 100, although please be clear, it only covers letters A-Z. Note; this is in no way intended as a "best actors" list. I have no skills or credentials to even attempt such a thing.

100) Jacqueline Bissett 99) Alan Arkin 98) Hugh Grant 97) Kirsten Dunst 96) Woody Harrelson

95) Cameron Diaz 94) Michael Keaton 93) Ed Harris 92) Anne Bancroft 91) Colin Firth

90) Bruce Dern 89) Elliot Gould 88) Kevin Bacon 87) Lauren Bacall 86) James Garner

85) Julie Andrews 84) Val Kilmer 83) Helena Bonham-Carter 82) Keith Carradine 81) James Caan

80) Gabriel Byrne 79) Morgan Freeman 78) Catherine Keener 77) Antonio Banderas 76) Willem Dafoe

75) Jet Li 74) Sandrine Bonnaire 73) Ian Holm 72) Jennifer Jason Leigh 71) Jackie Chan

70) Jim Carrey 69) Samuel L Jackson 68) Jodie Foster 67) Peter Fonda 66) Ethan Hawke

65) Albert Brooks 64) Holly Hunter 63) Leslie Caron 62) Leonardo DiCaprio 61) John Hurt

60) Russell Crowe 59) Anjelica Huston 58) Anouk Aimee 57) Jessica Lange 56) Glenn Close

55) Isabelle Adjani 54) Matthew Broderick 53) Juliette Binoche 52) Faye Dunaway 51) Jeremy Irons

50) Richard Gere 49) Matt Dillon 48) Maggie Cheung 47) Emmanuelle Beart 46) Alan Bates

45) Kevin Kline 44) Dennis Hopper 43) Judy Davis 42) Tommy Lee Jones 41) Bob Hoskins

40) Ralph Fiennes 39) Ellen Burstyn 38) Daniel Auteuil 37) Jane Fonda 36) Mia Farrow

35) Laura Linney 34) Nicole Kidman 33) Isabelle Huppert 32) Tom Cruise 31) Ben Kingsley

30) Kevin Costner 29) Michael Douglas 28) Michael Caine 27) Bruno Ganz 26) George Clooney

25) William Hurt 24) Albert Finney 23) Gong Li 22) Diane Keaton 21) Mel Gibson

20) Anthony Hopkins 19) Tom Hanks 18) John Cusack 17) Jeff Bridges 16) Nicolas Cage

15) Richard Dreyfuss 14) Johnny Depp 13) Sean Connery 12) Julie Christie 11) Tony Leung

10) Harvey Keitel 9) Gerard Depardieu 8) Harrison Ford 7) Robert Duvall 6) Gene Hackman

5) Catherine Deneuve 4) Clint Eastwood 3) Dustin Hoffman 2) Woody Allen 1) Robert DeNiro
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on March 11, 2010, 04:41:02 PM
It's been a long time since I've wondered, "why did  that movie get made?" But then just now I watched Taking Woodstock (Demetri Martin).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on March 11, 2010, 04:55:34 PM
11) Tony Leung
5) Catherine Deneuve
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 11, 2010, 05:43:42 PM
11) Tony Leung
5) Catherine Deneuve
Good? Bad? Indifferent? Random pluckings? I am enjoying CD in A Christmas Tale at this very moment. Are you happy? Outraged? A bot?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on March 11, 2010, 05:47:37 PM
11) Tony Leung
5) Catherine Deneuve
Good? Bad? Indifferent? Random pluckings? I am enjoying CD in A Christmas Tale at this very moment. Are you happy? Outraged? A bot?

Oops. Didn't realize I didn't actually write anything under the quote. They're two of my all time favorites. She's great in A Christmas Tale.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 19, 2010, 07:22:39 PM
If you want to see something really good, The Browning Version is on TCM tonight @ 8 PM EST.
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Post by: Martin on March 19, 2010, 08:16:34 PM
I endorse! The Browning Version.
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Post by: Sarah on March 20, 2010, 08:17:20 AM
The Michael Redgrave version, right?  (What a stupid question:  of course you can't possibly mean the remake.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on March 21, 2010, 01:55:08 PM
I saw The Runaways last night. It looked cool purely in terms of cinematography and had an impressionistic quality that helped to smooth over a lot of the usual biopic cliches, but I can't recommend it except for the strange experience of seeing Dakota Fanning snorting coke off the floor while wearing lingerie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on March 21, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
2012 was so much worse than I thought it would be! Really remarkable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on March 21, 2010, 11:27:23 PM
Just watched Gentlemen Broncos and it was so bad I almost renounced movies altogether and pawned my DVD player.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 21, 2010, 11:47:18 PM
Just watched Gentlemen Broncos and it was so bad I almost renounced movies altogether and pawned my DVD player.

I've heard how bad it is but the clips I've seen of Sam Rockwell as the fantasy hero makes it look at least interesting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on March 22, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
i watched persepolis for what felt like the first time (but surely, i know i've seen it before).  it was probably the last thing i should've watched after Paul F. Tompkins being the last thing i actually saw.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 19, 2010, 07:12:55 PM
Today I was in a vengeful mood since my trip to New York got cancelled, so I watched DEATH WISH. Then I watched DEATH WISH II, then DEATH WISH 3, DEATH WISH 4: THE CRACKDOWN, and then finally, you guessed it, DEATH WISH V: THE FACE OF DEATH.

 :-[
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on April 19, 2010, 07:31:43 PM
Someone call the men in white coats.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on April 19, 2010, 07:39:33 PM
Also I want to kill a lot of people now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on April 19, 2010, 07:39:55 PM
Saw Eclipse (the Irish gothic horror/romance, not the Twilight thing) over the weekend. It's kind of a mess in a lot of ways, but a stunningly effective mess. There are only a small handful of scare scenes but they arrive in totally unexpected ways and one in particular had everyone in the theater more freaked out than anything I've seen in a long time.

It also has a very good score and beautiful cinematography.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on April 19, 2010, 07:40:48 PM
I saw Clash of the Titans in 3D this weekend. Nice 'n' stupid. Pretty much like the one I watched on cable constantly as a kid, but with everything turned up several notches.

This was also the first 3D movie I have seen, too. I mean, this current technology ... not the kind where you have one red lens and one blue lens type of 3D.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on April 19, 2010, 08:02:54 PM
Also saw Kick-Ass, and it stunk to high heaven. Tom if you happen to read this, you are correct to avoid it. Stick to your guns!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on April 19, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
I saw Date Night and it was a great movie to see with a group of friends. I think if I had been watching it alone it still would have been funny but I would have been more bothered by the less quality parts.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on April 19, 2010, 09:50:59 PM
I saw Date Night and it was a great movie to see with a group of friends. I think if I had been watching it alone it still would have been funny but I would have been more bothered by the less quality parts.

That movie saddened me because somewhere in there is a decent domestic comedy about a marriage about two people who obviously love each other but it's just okay. Occasionally the movie has flashes of that better movie. Then Mark Wahlberg shows up shirtless and starts using Tony Stark's computer.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on April 20, 2010, 01:43:12 AM
I saw Date Night and it was a great movie to see with a group of friends. I think if I had been watching it alone it still would have been funny but I would have been more bothered by the less quality parts.

That movie saddened me because somewhere in there is a decent domestic comedy about a marriage about two people who obviously love each other but it's just okay. Occasionally the movie has flashes of that better movie. Then Mark Wahlberg shows up shirtless and starts using Tony Stark's computer.

Yeah, I was not a fan of that computer business. Or the exteeeeeended cars hooked together material.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on April 20, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
I saw Clash of the Titans in 3D this weekend. Nice 'n' stupid. Pretty much like the one I watched on cable constantly as a kid, but with everything turned up several notches.

This was also the first 3D movie I have seen, too. I mean, this current technology ... not the kind where you have one red lens and one blue lens type of 3D.

"welcome to the world of tomorrow!"

(http://giel.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/worldoftomorrow.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on April 24, 2010, 02:34:16 PM
I've got an unlimited movies card, so I go to the cinema most weeks and see almost everything, even if most of it is stuff I would never considering paying for. Sometimes it pays off, like with How to Train Your Dragon, sometimes it plain stinks, like Clash of the Titans. As a reviewer said, "How can you make that story boring?"

Most recent highlight was Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant's debut as writers/directors, Cemetery Junction. Nice little coming of age story, perfect length, just enough jokes to offset the melancholic undercurrents, and quite different in tone to what you may have expected from the creators, nearer to the dramatic peaks of The Office than an out and out comedy. Deserves to do very well, although seeing that it's dropped off multiplex screens in its second week of release means that this might be more of a 'cult hit' than it should be.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on April 24, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Also saw Kick-Ass, and it stunk to high heaven. Tom if you happen to read this, you are correct to avoid it. Stick to your guns!

I quite enjoyed it, although it is very much of its time, I doubt I'll be buying the 4 disc Legacy Edition 3D Blu-Ray in a decade.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: stephen on April 25, 2010, 02:26:47 AM
I'm sure it'll be out of theaters by next weekend but I recently viewed Diary of a Wimpy Kid and it was a charming little family movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 09, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
Just watched "In The Loop" again.  God, that is one funny movie.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: waltkellysghost on May 10, 2010, 01:31:26 AM
Just saw Iron Man 2. It was exactly as enjoyable as the first one. The first Iron Man may have effected me a bit more because I wasn't expecting much.

Robert Downey Jr. plays Tony Stark so well. I probably enjoyed his civilian scenes more than his armored up parts.

My only complaint would have to be the cookie-cutter soundtrack. (a problem with every big budget blockbuster) I could go my entire life without hearing another AC/DC song.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on May 10, 2010, 03:35:57 AM
I just saw I love you man on cable

pretty fun
why doesn't Tom like Rush again?

they have some wicked tunes.
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Post by: Steve in North Hollywood on May 10, 2010, 09:02:41 AM
I just saw I love you man on cable

pretty fun
why doesn't Tom like Rush again?

they have some wicked tunes.

I was very upset that I didn't know about that Rush concert scene.  I would've LOVED to have been an extra in that scene.

Just saw Iron Man 2. It was exactly as enjoyable as the first one. The first Iron Man may have effected me a bit more because I wasn't expecting much.

Robert Downey Jr. plays Tony Stark so well. I probably enjoyed his civilian scenes more than his armored up parts.

My only complaint would have to be the cookie-cutter soundtrack. (a problem with every big budget blockbuster) I could go my entire life without hearing another AC/DC song.

My thoughts exactly, with exception to your thoughts on AC/DC.  I fully understand your opinion, but I think there's just something in the water of my hometown that turned us all into AC/DC fans for life.  May God have mercy on us.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on May 11, 2010, 01:39:03 PM
Just saw Iron Man 2. It was exactly as enjoyable as the first one. The first Iron Man may have effected me a bit more because I wasn't expecting much.

Robert Downey Jr. plays Tony Stark so well. I probably enjoyed his civilian scenes more than his armored up parts.

My only complaint would have to be the cookie-cutter soundtrack. (a problem with every big budget blockbuster) I could go my entire life without hearing another AC/DC song.

I didn't even see the first movie, but caught so many trailers for Iron Man 2 that I couldn't not watch it.  Had a lot of fun, and laughed a lot. A quality popcorn movie.

My favourite part though was near the beginning, when a shot of the racist Russian stereotype, Jeff Bridges, panned back to reveal a bottle of generic looking vodka, and the three Polish guys behind me chorused in with the brand name.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on May 12, 2010, 01:55:11 PM
...I could go my entire life without hearing another AC/DC song.

i don't mind AC/DC (at all,really) quite as much as Ozzy's, "Iron Man" intro.  i want to throw my television out the window.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 12, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
I fully understand your opinion, but I think there's just something in the water of my hometown that turned us all into AC/DC fans for life.  May God have mercy on us.

AC/DC music in the city of Buffalo is like romantic accordion music in bad movies set in Paris... even though you never see anyone playing it, it seems to drift from every window and waft through the air, omnipresent.   It's like white noise here. It's possible that I could even be hearing AC/DC right now without realizing it, as I'm typing this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 12, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
Oh, that's like when I lived in Madison WI and everywhere you went you heard Grateful Dead or Bob Marley. I still can't listen to either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on May 12, 2010, 05:49:33 PM
I fully understand your opinion, but I think there's just something in the water of my hometown that turned us all into AC/DC fans for life.  May God have mercy on us.

AC/DC music in the city of Buffalo is like romantic accordion music in bad movies set in Paris... even though you never see anyone playing it, it seems to drift from every window and waft through the air, omnipresent.   It's like white noise here. It's possible that I could even be hearing AC/DC right now without realizing it, as I'm typing this.

I'm still not seeing the problem. I understand Auntie Christina's situation, as both Bob Marley and the Grateful Dead are horrible.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 13, 2010, 08:36:14 AM
I'm still not seeing the problem. I understand Auntie Christina's situation, as both Bob Marley and the Grateful Dead are horrible.

I will say this about Bob Marley and the Grateful Dead: neither one of them wrote "Big Balls".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on May 13, 2010, 10:21:10 AM
I'm still not seeing the problem. I understand Auntie Christina's situation, as both Bob Marley and the Grateful Dead are horrible.

I will say this about Bob Marley and the Grateful Dead: neither one of them wrote "Big Balls".

I'm fairly sure at least one of them covered it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 13, 2010, 10:48:59 AM
Saw Trash Humpers last night.  As you can imagine, the New York City audience was totally shocked.  The movie broke our small-town minds.  It was too intense for us.

Let me ask this:  Is the eschewing of story something to be praised?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 13, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
Let me ask this:  Is the eschewing of story something to be praised?

Not in and of itself. But I think there ought to be room for non-narrative film in our cinemas. Though, admittedly, I have less patience for much of that stuff than I did when I was a little younger. Is it a common thing to move away from more challenging movies/books/art as you get older?

So you didn't like Trash Humpers, I guess? Is it funny, at least?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 13, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
Let me ask this:  Is the eschewing of story something to be praised?

Not in and of itself. But I think there ought to be room for non-narrative film in our cinemas. Though, admittedly, I have less patience for much of that stuff than I did when I was a little younger. Is it a common thing to move away from more challenging movies/books/art as you get older?

So you didn't like Trash Humpers, I guess? Is it funny, at least?

Yes, you're right. There certainly needs to be room for non-narrative film, but I think it needs to be at the service of something. I am not sure what the "something" was in Trash Humpers, and that's why I walked away annoyed.  If the goal was to shock, it failed in my case.  If the goal was to thumb a nose at the movie industry, then it was too insider for me to care.  If it was a message to the audience to break from boring suburban routine, then it was preaching to the choir and it backfired and had me wanting to run toward convention because the people in the film were so miserable.

As for being funny, I really didn't find any of it funny. I saw times where there were attempts at humor, but I didn't laugh.

To its credit, there were moments when it was visually interesting.  But those moments were too rare and fleeting to keep me on the movie's side.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 13, 2010, 11:54:07 AM
Thanks for that, Jon. I've been curious about this movie, and reviews for this kind of thing are often tough to get a bead on. I am a half-hearted fan of Korine's audacity and self-mythologizing, but I think it might be time for him to try a little harder.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 13, 2010, 12:17:07 PM
Thanks for that, Jon. I've been curious about this movie, and reviews for this kind of thing are often tough to get a bead on. I am a half-hearted fan of Korine's audacity and self-mythologizing, but I think it might be time for him to try a little harder.

Nicely crystallized - I agree totally ...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 13, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
Jeepers - I was looking up Korine's filmography on the IMDB, cause I haven't been super aware of his stuff the last few years, and I found this in the trivia section:

Named his top ten favorite films of all time in a December 1999 issue of Dazed & Confused: Pixote: A Lei do Mais Fraco (1981), Badlands (1973), Days of Heaven (1978), Fat City (1972), Stroszek (1977), The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (1976), A Woman Under the Influence (1974), McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971), Out of the Blue (1980) and 'Je vous salue, Marie' (1985).

This explains a lot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 13, 2010, 12:41:51 PM
Jeepers - I was looking up Korine's filmography on the IMDB, cause I haven't been super aware of his stuff the last few years, and I found this in the trivia section:

Named his top ten favorite films of all time in a December 1999 issue of Dazed & Confused: Pixote: A Lei do Mais Fraco (1981), Badlands (1973), Days of Heaven (1978), Fat City (1972), Stroszek (1977), The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (1976), A Woman Under the Influence (1974), McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971), Out of the Blue (1980) and 'Je vous salue, Marie' (1985).

This explains a lot.

Korine does have excellent taste.  I remember reading years ago he's a huge Flannery O'Connor fan too. 

("an issue of Dazed & Confused?" I assume whatever that is, it's not around anymore)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on May 13, 2010, 12:45:09 PM
It sure is:

http://www.dazeddigital.com/Default.aspx
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on May 13, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
My favorite Cassavetes movie is the made-for-TV one where he kidnaps a small black child and Billy Dee Williams tries to get him back.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 13, 2010, 02:16:42 PM
Is it a common thing to move away from more challenging movies/books/art as you get older?

Sure is true for me.  I've given up on trying to improve myself or impress others; now I just want to be entertained.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 13, 2010, 03:28:01 PM

Korine does have excellent taste.  I remember reading years ago he's a huge Flannery O'Connor fan too. 
 

Yabbut it's a weird taste, I think is what I meant, you know? Those are all good movies, but collected together as his top ten (& his O'Connor worship), well, that's quite a statement. I love O'Connor too, though, so there you have it.

BTW I actually have Fat City in my netflix queue - haven't seen it. Do youse like it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 13, 2010, 04:01:28 PM

Korine does have excellent taste.  I remember reading years ago he's a huge Flannery O'Connor fan too. 
 

Yabbut it's a weird taste, I think is what I meant, you know? Those are all good movies, but collected together as his top ten (& his O'Connor worship), well, that's quite a statement. I love O'Connor too, though, so there you have it.

BTW I actually have Fat City in my netflix queue - haven't seen it. Do youse like it?

Oh, I'm sure to some extent that kind of namechecking is calculated to boost the cachet of his trash humping experiments and what not.  I don't recall reading any of his actual thoughts on any filmmakers.

Fat City is pretty damn great.  I should watch it again sometime if it's on instant, actually.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gilly on May 13, 2010, 04:42:37 PM
Fat City's in my queue as well and if I remember right it's in HD.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 13, 2010, 04:56:46 PM
I loved Fat City. I haven't seen it for years, but I've been thinking about revisiting it as well.

Sure is true for me.  I've given up on trying to improve myself or impress others; now I just want to be entertained.

Around when I turned 30, I observed that I was entering my "potboiler years". All I wanted to read were detective novels and comic books. This more or less remains the case.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 14, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
Quote
Is it a common thing to move away from more challenging movies/books/art as you get older?

I dunno--I think what's more common is to grow more skeptical about pretentiousness in movies/books/art, especially when they're made by people you come to see as lacking in real-life experience--i. e., younger than you (Hey, get off my fuckin' lawn.)

I'm in my 50's and am sort of flabbergasting myself by acquiring a taste for opera, which I never would have abided up until a few years ago.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 14, 2010, 12:26:39 PM
But opera isn't challenging.  It's just comic books/soap operas set to fancy music.  (You're in for a lot of fun, in other words.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on May 15, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
Watched Memories of Murder last night. Great movie.

After I first saw Zodiac, I said to my viewing companion, 'That was the first truly original take on the police procedural since Manhunter'. Well it turns out Bong Joon-Ho beat Fincher to the punch by two or three years. If you admired Zodiac you've got to seek this one out.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on May 16, 2010, 05:22:46 AM
crumbum - I loved Zodiac, especially the extended Fincher cut, so will be sure to check that out. Another great police procedural is Jar City (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805576/), an inventive, exciting Icelandic movie which is soon to be remade by Paranormal Activity 2 director Tod Williams. I think the single 'd' in his name tells me all I need to know about that.

Going to see Chris Morris's (Brass Eye, Day Today, Jam etc.) directoral debut Four Lions today with high hopes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2010, 07:05:19 AM
I saw Blindness the other day and found it interesting enough to buy the book.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on May 16, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
I loved Blindness. It made me angry.
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Post by: Martin on May 16, 2010, 12:51:26 PM
I thought Blindness was pretty universally panned.
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Post by: Chris L on May 16, 2010, 02:23:45 PM
There's currently a lot of doubt as to whether this incompetent-looking movie (http://www.afterlastseason.com/) is real.   I'd say one look at the "MRI scanner" and the ceiling fan above it would indicate... noooo.    Here's an alleged interview  (http://www.knoxroad.com/2009/03/27/knox-road-exclusive-writerdirector-mark-region-talks-about-after-last-season/) with the writer/director where he claims the budget was $5 million.  

A big update on After Last Season (http://www.afterlastseason.com/)! It's playing in real cinemas starting this Friday.

Austin TX, Rochester NY, North Aurora IL, and Lancaster CA FOT, please check it out and report back! I don't remember the last movie that seemed this mysterious.

Here's a review (http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/film-review-after-last-season). It sounds for all the world like someone trying to engender a Tommy Wiseau-esque cult following.   I too have Wiseau-esque ambitions, but they're pretty much limited to putting my feet up on things all the time.  


I finally downloaded and watched as much as I cared to of After Last Season.  It's not really a "fun" bad movie, just completely baffling.  I've never seen so much pointless small talk in a movie.  The whole thing seems like something a schizophrenic with no concept of production values would make while killing time on the massive warehouse set from Synecdoche, NY.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 16, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
I thought Blindness was pretty universally panned.

Point?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on May 16, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
No point, I just found it interesting that two people I respect thought highly of it - most other people I've talked to didn't care for it at all. I might see it now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 17, 2010, 08:30:44 AM
I caught The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo this weekend and found it way, way overhyped, with an utterly chemistry-free leading couple and many glaring plot holes that I'm guessing were explained in the book.  If you ask me (which you all did, right?), any comparisons to Silence of the Lambs are crazytalk.

For once I'm welcoming the inevitable American remake, if only to see the story get tightened up and made more exciting. As it is, the plot includes at least 4 looong sequences of characters doing "research", which are presented on film as montages of them shuffling through papers, typing things into computers, and squinting at photographs while making scowling, exaggerrated "hmmmmm" expressions.  It seriously feels like these scenes take up at least 15-20 minutes of the running time. Not my idea of compelling cinema.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 17, 2010, 08:42:59 AM
No point, I just found it interesting that two people I respect thought highly of it - most other people I've talked to didn't care for it at all. I might see it now.

"Highly"?  That's way too enthusiastic.  As I said, I found it interesting enough to want to see how it worked as a book (almost certainly better than as a movie).   

I'm looking forward to watching Jar City, sparkatus.  I recorded it the other week but haven't gotten around to it yet.  I liked the book.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 17, 2010, 08:57:44 AM
"Highly"?  That's way too enthusiastic.  As I said, I found it interesting enough to want to see how it worked as a book (almost certainly better than as a movie).   

I was gonna say, I read the book right before seeing the movie, and I loved the book and thought the movie was kinda mediocre. I'm sure my estimation of it was biased from having read the book so recently, but I stand by it.  That story works way better as a book than as a movie.  You'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 17, 2010, 12:03:24 PM
As it is, the plot includes at least 4 looong sequences of characters doing "research", which are presented on film as montages of them shuffling through papers, typing things into computers, and squinting at photographs while making scowling, exaggerrated "hmmmmm" expressions.  It seriously feels like these scenes take up at least 15-20 minutes of the running time. Not my idea of compelling cinema.

That stuff takes up about 60% of the book (which I liked). The other 40% was sexual violence.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on May 17, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
I caught The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo this weekend and found it way, way overhyped, with an utterly chemistry-free leading couple and many glaring plot holes that I'm guessing were explained in the book.  If you ask me (which you all did, right?), any comparisons to Silence of the Lambs are crazytalk.

For once I'm welcoming the inevitable American remake, if only to see the story get tightened up and made more exciting. As it is, the plot includes at least 4 looong sequences of characters doing "research", which are presented on film as montages of them shuffling through papers, typing things into computers, and squinting at photographs while making scowling, exaggerrated "hmmmmm" expressions.  It seriously feels like these scenes take up at least 15-20 minutes of the running time. Not my idea of compelling cinema.

I think I liked it a little more than you but it definitely could've been shorter. It's weird, all of those research shots are pretty atypical these days, especially in the amount of detail they covered. I thought the girl was very good, though their relationship did seem forced.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 18, 2010, 12:12:35 AM
I caught The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo this weekend and found it way, way overhyped, with an utterly chemistry-free leading couple and many glaring plot holes that I'm guessing were explained in the book.  If you ask me (which you all did, right?), any comparisons to Silence of the Lambs are crazytalk.

For once I'm welcoming the inevitable American remake, if only to see the story get tightened up and made more exciting. As it is, the plot includes at least 4 looong sequences of characters doing "research", which are presented on film as montages of them shuffling through papers, typing things into computers, and squinting at photographs while making scowling, exaggerrated "hmmmmm" expressions.  It seriously feels like these scenes take up at least 15-20 minutes of the running time. Not my idea of compelling cinema.

I think I liked it a little more than you but it definitely could've been shorter. It's weird, all of those research shots are pretty atypical these days, especially in the amount of detail they covered. I thought the girl was very good, though their relationship did seem forced.

I haven't seen Girl With the Dragon Tattoo yet, but I couldn't believe it when I read that Flo from Progressive is starring in the American remake.*


*I think I read it on my own Twitter where I already made that joke.  
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on May 18, 2010, 02:17:09 AM

Korine does have excellent taste.  I remember reading years ago he's a huge Flannery O'Connor fan too. 
 

Yabbut it's a weird taste, I think is what I meant, you know? Those are all good movies, but collected together as his top ten (& his O'Connor worship), well, that's quite a statement. I love O'Connor too, though, so there you have it.

BTW I actually have Fat City in my netflix queue - haven't seen it. Do youse like it?

Oh, I'm sure to some extent that kind of namechecking is calculated to boost the cachet of his trash humping experiments and what not.  I don't recall reading any of his actual thoughts on any filmmakers.

Fat City is pretty damn great.  I should watch it again sometime if it's on instant, actually.



I checked it out after they mentioned it on the show and thought it was great, i loved the opening scene. I was also glad to see that what Mike thought was the ending of the movie wasn't really the last scene although it would have made a better ending.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on May 19, 2010, 12:43:19 PM
I watched the German film "North Face" on Netflix instant watch last night and I really liked it but jeez...After watching I felt like I had been beaten with a lead pipe.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on May 20, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
There's a Korine interview on The AV Club. I guess he doesn't come across as quite as much of a jerk as I would've imagined, but reading the interview really confirms just how much I don't ever need to see one of his movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 20, 2010, 02:32:11 PM
There's a Korine interview on The AV Club. I guess he doesn't come across as quite as much of a jerk as I would've imagined, but reading the interview really confirms just how much I don't ever need to see one of his movies.

Yeah, I think he get's kind of a bad rap. I have absolutely no interest in seeing Gummo or Julien Donkey Boy, but I certianly don't think he does what he does just to be a deliberately transgressive avant garde darling, or whatever other levels of phoniness people accuse him of inhabiting.  I'm not sure what kind of all-powerful Avant Garde Establishment people accuse him of trying to impress all the time, but in the interviews and stuff I've read about him, he's usually able to speak pretty clearly about his art and why he does what he does and all that.  I think he has genuine artistic reasons for doing what he does, even though most of what he's involved with seems annoying and/or totally repulsive.   

It's just hard for me to believe that someone would spend a year or more of their life financing and shooting a film where every day on-set before they yell "action", they think to themselves "I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't give a shit, but this is going to drive my avant-garde cred through the roof! I can't believe people are gonna buy this shit!"

The only film of his I've seen is Mister Lonely, and while it was pretty flawed and boring in parts, Richard Strange dressed up as Lincoln maniacally reciting the Gettysburg Address in front of strobe lights while spinning a basketball on his finger was one of my favorite cinematic images from 2008.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 20, 2010, 03:47:27 PM
As I said earlier in this thread, I like Korine, though I don't necessarily like all his movies. I think Gummo is pretty terrific though. It's funny and, I think, quite tender and sympathetic towards its subjects. And anyway, even if there weren't a bunch of other great scenes, this one scene would justify the whole movie's existence:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij0YgYAofHk[/youtube]

Taping cutlery together to make barbells? A touch of genius.

And I also think that shooting a feature film on VHS in 2010 is badass and pretty hilarious - without making me want to watch it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on May 20, 2010, 05:49:27 PM
The only film of his I've seen is Mister Lonely, and while it was pretty flawed and boring in parts, Richard Strange dressed up as Lincoln maniacally reciting the Gettysburg Address in front of strobe lights while spinning a basketball on his finger was one of my favorite cinematic images from 2008.

Yeah, there are so many great images. Especially the nuns.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on May 20, 2010, 05:51:54 PM
I've heard good things about Gummo but the cat drowning stuff has scared me away. I really have no tolerance for animal cruelty in movies. How graphic is it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 20, 2010, 06:40:54 PM
It's been a few years, but I don't remember the cat-killing being shown onscreen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 20, 2010, 11:34:51 PM
I've heard good things about Gummo but the cat drowning stuff has scared me away. I really have no tolerance for animal cruelty in movies. How graphic is it?

Wow, me too ... the second I heard about it I knew I couldn't watch it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 21, 2010, 12:01:11 AM
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Wow, me too ... the second I heard about it I knew I couldn't watch it.

Yeah, this. I remember hearing this (in Dealey Plaza--no, just kidding, Andy!) and instantly thinking that, no matter what Werner Herzog might have to say about him, the dude is a piece of shit and I would never, ever have anything but contempt for him.  I haven't wavered yet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on May 21, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
Well, like I said, I don't think it's actually in the movie, though it is a plot point in the movie.

edit: Wrong again! After I wrote this, I became uncertain, and looked to see what the internet had to say on the subject, and the hive mind says there is indeed gross footage with cats. I guess it didn't upset me that much, because it didn't stay with me. But if you are sensitive about this kind of thing, then you ought to avoid it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 21, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
I can't even watch the Animal Planet channel, though I'm sure there a shit-ton of positive stories and "OMG teh cutez I die" shows. I saw an ad for some Veterinary reality show and I knew I would never be able to watch anything on that channel.

I start getting teary eyed when that animal abuse ad comes on, with the goddamn Sarah McClaghglach song? You'd think that would be the aural equivalent of having your tear ducts seared shut.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 21, 2010, 09:58:01 AM
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Wow, me too ... the second I heard about it I knew I couldn't watch it.

Yeah, this. I remember hearing this (in Dealey Plaza--no, just kidding, Andy!) and instantly thinking that, no matter what Werner Herzog might have to say about him, the dude is a piece of shit and I would never, ever have anything but contempt for him.  I haven't wavered yet.


You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

Also, kind of ironic you mention Werner Herzog, as he's like the king of onscreen, not-fake animal cruelty and is pretty open about his contempt for animal rights groups.


(I don't know if I have to clarify but, uhh... I'm against animal cruelty.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on May 21, 2010, 10:19:50 AM
You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

uhh... I'm against animal cruelty.)

Gummo is a unique and disturbing film.  

Humorously surrealistic and painfully realistic.

Pretty good trick.

I'm glad Tom recommended it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on May 21, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

Yes, I realize it. No, it doesn't matter. It's obviously better if it's faked than if you're talking about an Andrei Rublev/Cockfighter/Werner Herzog situation where the cruelty is real, but it bothers me either way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pat K on May 21, 2010, 10:41:42 AM
You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

Yes, I realize it. No, it doesn't matter. It's obviously better if it's faked than if you're talking about an Andrei Rublev/Cockfighter/Werner Herzog situation where the cruelty is real, but it bothers me either way.

That's fair. I didn't want to sound like a dick. Like I said upthread, I have no interest in seeing that movie either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on May 21, 2010, 11:27:12 AM
Finally saw Death Wish 3 last night.  What a triumph!  Every Best Show-endorsed movie so far has been a winner.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on May 21, 2010, 01:15:38 PM
You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

Yes, I realize it. No, it doesn't matter. It's obviously better if it's faked than if you're talking about an Andrei Rublev/Cockfighter/Werner Herzog situation where the cruelty is real, but it bothers me either way.

That's fair. I didn't want to sound like a dick. Like I said upthread, I have no interest in seeing that movie either.


Yep. For the record I realize it's fake too, but it still doesn't make it palatable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on May 21, 2010, 01:56:36 PM
You guys realize that all that stuff in Gummo is all fake and done under the supervision of the Humane Association (http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=6146), right?

At the end of Four Lions, the Chris Morris movie, the credit reads: "One crow was blown up in the making of this movie."

Looks pretty realistic, too. And funny. So probably not true.

But yes, agreed, whether a cat being drowned is fake in Gummo or a turtle being butchered is real in Cannibal Holocaust, animal cruelty is not something I like watching.

Obviously with the exception of exploding crows.

Herzog's Bad Lieutenant for me tomorrow, I reckon.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 21, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Herzog's Bad Lieutenant for me tomorrow, I reckon.

Human cruelty is something I think we can all agree is ok.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on May 21, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
Well, we deserve it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on May 21, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
Saw Big Fan yesterday, and Popoganda, a documentary about Ron English. Illuminating!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on May 22, 2010, 06:41:59 AM
Howard Moon's Cinema of Cruelty:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAlxNNvfvJs[/youtube]
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jamesp on May 22, 2010, 11:21:22 PM
Finally saw Death Wish 3 last night.  What a triumph!  Every Best Show-endorsed movie so far has been a winner.

I saw it recently and thought it was a very entertaining movie. Now I wanna see Hard Ticket to Hawaii:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzv_6dFtKDE[/youtube]
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on May 23, 2010, 08:38:54 AM
I watched the German film "North Face" on Netflix instant watch last night and I really liked it but jeez...After watching I felt like I had been beaten with a lead pipe.

Same here.  Beautiful but so hard to watch. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 27, 2010, 07:31:50 AM
Just as a heads-up, Kent McKenzie's THE EXILES is on TCM @ 9:15 tonight. It's a low-budget look at 24 hrs in the aimless lives of young Native Americans in Los Angeles' long-gone Bunker Hill neighborhood of the early 60's.  It's a fascinating document of a side of the city that Hollywood was never much interested in (as  cited repeatedly in the doc LOS ANGELES PLAYS ITSELF), and that now no longer exists.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on May 27, 2010, 08:03:47 AM
Just as a heads-up, Kent McKenzie's THE EXILES is on TCM @ 9:15 tonight. It's a low-budget look at 24 hrs in the aimless lives of young Native Americans in Los Angeles' long-gone Bunker Hill neighborhood of the early 60's.  It's a fascinating document of a side of the city that Hollywood was never much interested in (as  cited repeatedly in the doc LOS ANGELES PLAYS ITSELF), and that now no longer exists.

I second this. It's got this weird sort of pseudodocumentary feel to it (apparently some dialogue was dubbed over after the fact) but it manages to get some amazing atmosphere out of people just hanging out at bars, driving around, playing cards in sketchy apartments and so forth. Visually it's somewhere between cinema verite and film noir.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on May 27, 2010, 12:08:29 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I've heard a lot about it over the years but it's tough to track down.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: waltkellysghost on May 30, 2010, 03:28:33 AM
Not sure why it took me so long, but I finally saw the Roky Erickson doc "Your Gonna Miss Me". I loved it.

The footage of him blanking out on stage totally ripped the heart right out of me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on May 30, 2010, 08:48:51 AM
Not sure why it took me so long, but I finally saw the Roky Erickson doc "Your Gonna Miss Me". I loved it.

The footage of him blanking out on stage totally ripped the heart right out of me.

And the skipping! 

Come on  P. Revess!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on May 31, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Watched a very cynical samurai film I downloaded months ago called THE BETRAYAL.  The ending features the craziest swordfight I've ever seen, with the protagonist taking on about a  couple hundred people by himself.  At one exhausted point his sword breaks and he has to pry his fingers one by one from the hilt to grab a new one. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on June 04, 2010, 01:24:15 PM
I rewatched Capturing the Friedmans the other day.
I think when I first saw it years ago I was on a Paradise Lost/West Memphis 3 and wanted to believe they were innocent and this and that. Then upon viewing it a second time I pretty much hate myself for that thinking. These guys are really awful humans. I guess I sort of blocked out the fact that they found magazines in this man's home. And the way the son's are laughing outside the courthouse after the trial just makes me indescribably sick.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 05, 2010, 08:43:50 AM
Newsweek on Trash Humpers: "You will want to shower afterwards." So it's just like Transformers 2.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 08, 2010, 12:13:56 AM
Newsweek on Trash Humpers: "You will want to shower afterwards." So it's just like Transformers 2.

Looking at some of the other movie options near my hotel in San Francisco Friday night - your Shreks, your Princes of Persias, your Sexes and the Cities 2's - Trash Humpers started to look pretty good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 10, 2010, 02:21:49 PM
Newsweek on Trash Humpers: "You will want to shower afterwards." So it's just like Transformers 2.

Looking at some of the other movie options near my hotel in San Francisco Friday night - your Shreks, your Princes of Persias, your Sexes and the Cities 2's - Trash Humpers started to look pretty good.

Although I was not a huge fan, what if I told you that I actually found the ending of Trash Humpers quite moving?!  There's a lot to dislike there (I have already sounded off on it in this thread I believe), but it definitely has me still thinking about it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 10, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
I watched "The Battle of Algiers" for the very first time last night.  Holy shit.  Why am I just finding this 41 years into my life? 

Without exaggeration, I can safely say that it is one of the best films I have ever seen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 10, 2010, 02:42:44 PM
It's a powerhouse, for sure. Watched it years ago on a worn VHS with less-than-ideal subtitles. Thought it was good if a bit confusing. Then I watched a new print in Bristol two-three years ago, at a film festival with all manners of historians and academics attending, lots of introductions/Q&As, etc. That was the point it really took off for me. One of those screenings I'll never forget.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on June 10, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
I watched "The Battle of Algiers" for the very first time last night.  Holy shit.  Why am I just finding this 41 years into my life? 

Without exaggeration, I can safely say that it is one of the best films I have ever seen.

I had the same revelation(s) earlier this week with M and 2001: A Space Odyssey. The good thing about slacking off in catching up with the Great Movies canon is that you eventually get to see them for the first time and you get that combination of fresh-eyed wonder and "so that's what the big deal is" getting-it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 10, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
What also floored me was the fact that time had not lessened its impact at all.  So many classics lose their potency simply because other films have taken their formula and amped it up a notch.  Not so with The Battle of Algiers.  I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and was amazed at the filmmakers' ability to remain almost totally neutral on the subject of their film. If they did hold an opinion, they kept it to themselves (my understanding was that many different and conflicting opinions went in and they pretty much canceled each other out).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 10, 2010, 03:55:25 PM
Gillo Pontecorvo was personally clearly on the side of the resistance, however.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 10, 2010, 04:16:59 PM
Gillo Pontecorvo was personally clearly on the side of the resistance, however.

I thought the close-up shots of French faces in cafes - including women and children - just before the bloodletting helped tone down that sentiment.  Or at least, it seemed to say "Yeah, the French should not have been there, but we're not saying slaughtering innocents is cool."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 10, 2010, 05:02:09 PM
Completely agree with that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 11, 2010, 12:41:17 AM
A new print (I don't think it's a restoration) of Edward Yang's A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY is playing at the Freer Gallery in DC on Sunday only.  I watched a laserdisc-copied bootleg dvd of it last year but this kind of opportunity defines the term "rare."  Last I heard Criterion wanted to release it but it's tied up with rights issues.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 11, 2010, 12:47:06 AM
Speaking of new prints, Jacques Tourneur's little-seen late noir Nightfall (1957) will have a limited run in NY and LA (maybe more) soon I think, maybe late June or so. I know it will run at Film Forum in NY at least. I was able to attend a press screening of it in NY, and I recommend it. Some possible influence on Fargo in this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on June 11, 2010, 06:17:33 AM
The fact that many people in the film were actual participants in the events gives it extra oomph, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on June 11, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
I watched The Big Lebowski last night for the first time in 8 years. I remember not liking it but now I love it. I nearly busted my gut when the wind blows Donnie's ashes all over The Dude. I like not so much the idea of the winding blowing the ashes but that second when John Goodman gently brushes off the specks of ash that rested on his shirt sleeve. This is a new favorite, one for which I am so so late onboard for. But things sure do change a lot after 8 years.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on June 11, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
The Big Lebowski was the film that, when I first saw it when I was about 14, made me realise how good the Cohens were, and I've been a fan ever since. Watching it in fairly close proximity to Fargo or No Country and it doesn't stand up quite so well, but it's a great comedy.

I saw A Serious Man again a few weeks ago and found it a lot funnier than when I first saw it, when I found it all reasonably depressing and moving. Loved it both times I saw it, just had two completely different experiences.

Maybe I found it so funny this time because Sy Abelman reminded me of a slightly larger Andy Breckman.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on June 11, 2010, 08:02:24 PM
The Big Lebowski was the film that, when I first saw it when I was about 14, made me realise how good the Cohens were, and I've been a fan ever since. Watching it in fairly close proximity to Fargo or No Country and it doesn't stand up quite so well, but it's a great comedy.

I saw A Serious Man again a few weeks ago and found it a lot funnier than when I first saw it, when I found it all reasonably depressing and moving. Loved it both times I saw it, just had two completely different experiences.

Maybe I found it so funny this time because Sy Abelman reminded me of a slightly larger Andy Breckman.

I saw it in the theater and thought it was. But usually I see something I really like twice in the movie theater but I've yet to see this again. I'm sure a second viewing will seal the deal.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Ike on June 11, 2010, 10:46:12 PM
I've watched two movies, in the theater, in the past 24 hours. 

One was BEYOND THE LIGHTED STAGE, THE STORY OF RUSH, and it was fuuuuuuuuuuucking great.  GREAT. 

Just great great great. 

If you loathe this band with your entire being, every fiber of you feels sick when you hear those paradiddles, you'll still like this documentary. 

GREAT. 

I took my daughter to see Karate Kid tonight, too.  That's her thing, not mine.  And by 'thing' I mean rampant, vehement racism.  There's an actual 'glasses and buck teeth' scene, and I'm not joking. 

Glasses and buck teeth. 

Wow. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on June 12, 2010, 11:15:55 PM
Just watched Sin Nombre and was really impressed. Gunna get back into foreign films as a summer resolution. Tomorrow a screening of Godard's Breathless.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DoodleJump! on June 12, 2010, 11:54:19 PM
I was in a weird depressed yet hopeful mood last night/earlymorning and watched Precious and In America.
I hadn't seen Precious before and I liked it. It wasn't incredible or amazing, but it was good. The characters had to be hard to play out well. Mo'nique deserved all the critic praise she received.

In America is such a good movie. Last night was my second time watching it. Samantha Morton is a favorite of mine. Anyone who's seen Mr. Lonely or Longford should agree with me that she is phenomenal as far as acting chops go.
And those little Irish girls are adorable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on June 13, 2010, 12:09:18 AM
In America is such a good movie. Last night was my second time watching it. Samantha Morton is a favorite of mine. Anyone who's seen Mr. Lonely or Longford should agree with me that she is phenomenal as far as acting chops go.

She's good in The Messenger. The movie isn't great but it's very emotional, I warn you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 13, 2010, 12:15:21 AM
In America is such a good movie. Last night was my second time watching it. Samantha Morton is a favorite of mine. Anyone who's seen Mr. Lonely or Longford should agree with me that she is phenomenal as far as acting chops go.

She's good in The Messenger. The movie isn't great but it's very emotional, I warn you.

I liked the Messenger, Steve Buscemi's performance should have gotten some supporting recognition last year.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on June 13, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
Waiting for the train next to an ad for Grown Ups.  Overheard an earnest: "Is this the latest installment of Michael Apted's Up series...?"  exchanged as a couple walked past.

Hello Metropolitan Diary?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: sparkatus on June 13, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Saw Brooklyn's Finest yesterday and Greenberg today, neither were great.

BF - Sub-Wire cop drama with added Richard Gere, completely acceptable if a little graphic at times.
Greenberg - Biggest ash olé character of all time fails to inspire sympathy with his rich people problems.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on July 05, 2010, 01:14:47 PM
Watched Oldboy last night.  Found it entertaining.  Every now and then, I'd snag on a gimmick, but mostly I just went along for the ride and enjoyed myself. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on July 05, 2010, 01:56:38 PM
Watched a few movies lately...

Nowhere Boy - John Lennon biopic of his teenage years, sad but good.
You Don't Know Jack - Al Pacino as Jack Kevorkian. Better then I expected.
A-Team - As good as the TV series. The TV series is terrible.
Zodiac - 3rd viewing in as many years, love the slow burn and atmosphere.

up next,

Skupljaci Perja(I Even Met Happy Gypsies) - directed by Aleksandar Petrovic (this director provided some inspiration to Emir Kusturica, according to my friend who owns the DVD)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on July 05, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
Winter's Bone - loved it. It's a really, really dark and ruthless murder mystery set in the Ozarks. John Hawkes (the dude from Eastbound and Down, Deadwood and You And Me And Everyone You Know) is especially great. It's one of those roles where you suddenly see that an actor has way more in him than you realized.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on July 05, 2010, 10:23:07 PM
Watched What About Me a couple days ago. 1993, low budget film about a homeless woman living in New York City.

Black and white.  Written, directed by Rachel Amodeo.  Who also plays the lead character.

Story and filming were pretty good.  Acting was not so great (what do want from Richard Edison, Nick Zedd, Dee Dee Ramone?)

Richard Hell was the surprise.  I wish he had more screen time.  He's a natural.
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Post by: masterofsparks on July 06, 2010, 06:34:32 AM
Winter's Bone - loved it. It's a really, really dark and ruthless murder mystery set in the Ozarks. John Hawkes (the dude from Eastbound and Down, Deadwood and You And Me And Everyone You Know) is especially great. It's one of those roles where you suddenly see that an actor has way more in him than you realized.

I loved the book (I love all of Daniel Woodrell's books, actually), so I was definitely excited to hear about this happening. The fact that it appears to be good makes me all the more excited.
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Post by: Bryan on July 06, 2010, 07:57:38 AM
Yeah, I liked Winter's Bone too. It is good, but it's the kind of movie that makes me realize that most other mainstream movies should be that good. An intriguing premise, colourful setting, good use of atmosphere and strong dialogue... that stuff doesn't cost anything! Shouldn't that be standard issue for any movie? But since sadly it's not, Winter's Bone is unusually good.
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Post by: Paul DePhiladelphia on July 06, 2010, 08:51:55 AM
I saw Cyrus which I thought was good and a smooth transition for the Duplass Brothers into big budget. Although I cringed at a few parts like when John C. was like "I am NOT going to the party!" and the next shot he's there. I laughed for a minute when he delivered this line: "Your son hates me. And to be quite honest I fuckin hate him too." I can really picture Mark Duplass delivering lines like that. I really love that guy.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 09, 2010, 10:00:11 AM
When NJ Transit shut down last night, I decided to go to a movie to get out of the heat and wait out the snarl.

The only movie playing at the right time was "Agora."  I do not recommend it.  Heavy-handed. Like the fate of many characters in the film, you feel like you are being stoned to death with the messages the film makers are trying to convey.  And they are didactic stones...whatever that means. 

It had some visually good moments, but of course, that does not make a good film.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 23, 2010, 12:02:38 AM
Finally watched Moon.  Loved it.  Can't believe it did not get more press.
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Post by: cutout on July 23, 2010, 01:05:35 AM
Speaking of the Duplass brothers, there's a movie I saw a few months back and cannot remember the name. I thought it was them who wrote it but am probably totally wrong. Plot is: 2 guys in their 30s, reunited after a decade, one guy is more straight laced, the other is a Burning Man kind of dude who's trying to still be young and hip and wants to do something edgy so he jokes about them having sex on film. The rest of the movie is leading up to whether or not they'll go through with it to keep their word. Ring any bells?
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Post by: Martin on July 23, 2010, 01:26:24 AM
Hump Day (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334537/)
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Post by: dave from knoxville on July 23, 2010, 09:04:21 PM
Did I say this already? Me and afk loved Inception.
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Post by: Bryan on July 23, 2010, 09:09:00 PM
Did I say this already? Me and afk loved Inception.

Yes. I liked it too. More today than I did last night, immediately afterwards. I have a couple of minor quibbles with it, but overall - wow! Quite an accomplishment.
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Post by: cutout on July 23, 2010, 09:09:13 PM
Hump Day (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334537/)

Yes! Thanks. It wasn't 5-star or anything but I really liked the dialogue and how natural the characters all seemed despite how absurd it was.
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Post by: cutout on July 23, 2010, 09:11:38 PM
Did I say this already? Me and afk loved Inception.

A lot of the psychobabble dialogue was rubbing me wrong for a lot of it, but a day later I'm realizing that it was pretty ambitious and definitely an adventure of a film.
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Post by: ben on July 24, 2010, 07:42:51 PM
Did I say this already? Me and afk loved Inception.

A lot of the psychobabble dialogue was rubbing me wrong for a lot of it, but a day later I'm realizing that it was pretty ambitious and definitely an adventure of a film.

I liked it.  I was disappointed that one of my favorite actors, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, didn't have more to do in the film performance wise.  And some of the dialogue did seem overly expository.  But it's definitely a movie I have to watch again, while it's still on the big silver/golden screen. 

 
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Post by: Pidgeon on July 25, 2010, 12:32:52 AM
I saw Cyrus and loved it. Though, I noticed the theater was gradually emptying as the movie went on.
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Post by: yesno on August 01, 2010, 06:44:09 PM
Agora is an excellent movie.  Tyler Cowen described (http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/07/agora.html) it today thus:

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I am surprised this film, set in ancient Alexandria, has not occasioned more controversy.  It is the most pro-science, pro-rationalist, anti-Christian movie I have seen -- ever. -- and it does not disguise the message in the slightest.  The director and scriptwriter is Spanish and Chilean, namely Alejandro Amenábar.  It offers a Voltairean portrait of Judaism, as an oppressed rabble, most of all responsible for the crime of having birthed Christianity.  There are some not-so-subtle parallels shown between the early Christians and current Muslim terrorists.

I like the movie because it doesn't even try to be fair or accurate. 
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Post by: fonpr on August 01, 2010, 07:18:19 PM
Agora is an excellent movie.  Tyler Cowen described (http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/07/agora.html) it today thus:

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I am surprised this film, set in ancient Alexandria, has not occasioned more controversy.  It is the most pro-science, pro-rationalist, anti-Christian movie I have seen -- ever. -- and it does not disguise the message in the slightest.  The director and scriptwriter is Spanish and Chilean, namely Alejandro Amenábar.  It offers a Voltairean portrait of Judaism, as an oppressed rabble, most of all responsible for the crime of having birthed Christianity.  There are some not-so-subtle parallels shown between the early Christians and current Muslim terrorists.

I like the movie because it doesn't even try to be fair or accurate.

I'm with Mister No in his opinion.

Forget about early Christians,  I am far more interested in the parallels between present-day Christians and current Muslims
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on August 02, 2010, 05:27:06 AM
Hump Day (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1334537/)

Yes! Thanks. It wasn't 5-star or anything but I really liked the dialogue and how natural the characters all seemed despite how absurd it was.


Ive heard its really great.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 02, 2010, 08:10:56 PM
Salt doesn't make a lick of sense, but it was a nonsensical way to pleasantly pass two hours in air conditioned splendor.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 04, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
Tonight I am taking "It Came from Kuchar" to my weekly film group. I hope they let me come back.
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Post by: fonpr on August 04, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
Salt doesn't make a lick of sense, but it was a nonsensical way to pleasantly pass two hours in air conditioned splendor.

Love the salt-lick trick, Dave.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 05, 2010, 11:48:19 PM
Salt doesn't make a lick of sense, but it was a nonsensical way to pleasantly pass two hours in air conditioned splendor.

Love the salt-lick trick, Dave.

We're a pair of deep thinkers, Benchley
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Post by: Chris L on August 09, 2010, 01:03:49 AM
I liked Guy Maddin's wildly imaginative MY WINNIPEG much more than I expected, having not really been on his wavelength before. Fans of Herzog or F For Fake-style pseudo-docs should appreciate how he infuses local legend with his early cinema-inspired style. It's now on Netflix instant.
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Post by: daveB from Oakland on August 09, 2010, 01:42:48 AM
Salt doesn't make a lick of sense, but it was a nonsensical way to pleasantly pass two hours in air conditioned splendor.
Love the salt-lick trick, Dave.

Oh deer ...
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Post by: Bryan on August 09, 2010, 08:24:13 AM
I liked Guy Maddin's wildly imaginative MY WINNIPEG much more than I expected, having not really been on his wavelength before. Fans of Herzog or F For Fake-style pseudo-docs should appreciate how he infuses local legend with his early cinema-inspired style. It's now on Netflix instant.

Yes! This is really a great movie. It's my favourite of his, although I'm generally a fan of his schtick.
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Post by: Martin on August 09, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
I'm with Bryan, I love Guy Maddin. I still think short films is the perfect format for him (The Heart of the World = best film of the 00's), but the Winnipeg trilogy (My Winnipeg, Cowards Bend the Knee and The Saddest Music in the World) is something else. I'm glad My Winnipeg worked for you, Chris.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on August 14, 2010, 05:30:01 AM
Someone did a live Twitter feed of their experience watching Salo for the first time.



http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5347.0 (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5347.0)
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on August 14, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
Tomorrow night, I have an actual chance to go out and see a movie. Maybe two.  But alas, it is August.  Is there anything out there right now worth the money? Please make suggestions. 

Thank you,
JFM
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Post by: DS1077 on August 14, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
"Scott Pilgrim" wasn't as life-changing as some of the reviews have claimed, but it's pretty fun.  Or "The Kids are All right".
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 14, 2010, 03:00:16 PM
Wanna see Scott Pilgrim, I've heard good things.  Three movies I recommend are Porco Rosso, Castle in the Sky Laputa, and Grave of the fireflies.  Check 'em out- they're pretty funky.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on August 15, 2010, 02:56:22 PM
Wanna see Scott Pilgrim, I've heard good things.  Three movies I recommend are Porco Rosso, Castle in the Sky Laputa, and Grave of the fireflies.  Check 'em out- they're pretty funky.

If you receommended Grave of the Fireflies to me, I would hunt you down and injure you slowly, with maybe strategically placed plutonium pellets.
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Post by: Andy on August 15, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
New Jack City is terrible.
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Post by: fletcher munson on August 15, 2010, 08:53:36 PM
Wanna see Scott Pilgrim, I've heard good things.  Three movies I recommend are Porco Rosso, Castle in the Sky Laputa, and Grave of the fireflies.  Check 'em out- they're pretty funky.

If you receommended Grave of the Fireflies to me, I would hunt you down and injure you slowly, with maybe strategically placed plutonium pellets.
Nonetheless, it is a great movie.  I know it's sad, especially the ending, is that what you mean?

Maybe you'd like Princess Mononoke. 
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Post by: Smelodies on August 15, 2010, 09:48:31 PM
New Jack City is terrible.

Just like Al Capone it took tax evasion to bring Nino Brown down.
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on August 15, 2010, 10:32:26 PM
New Jack City is terrible.

Just like Al Capone it took tax evasion to bring Nino Brown down.

I was just happy to get a chance to witness the strength of street knowledge.
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Post by: Chris L on August 15, 2010, 10:48:09 PM
THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO - I mainly recommend it if you must find out what the all the hype is about and don't want to read the book.  I don't know how effectively the novel delves into the themes of sexual violence, but those graphic scenes in the movie often felt simply lurid to me.  It's also a little hard to reconcile a feminist viewpoint with the "schlubby guy effortlessly beds hot bisexual chick" fantasy. Hard to say how David Fincher will handle the upcoming Hollywood version.

LOVE EXPOSURE - This has to be one of the hardest movies to encapsulate of recent years, and maybe one of the most significant.  I can't blame anyone who sums it up as "the four-hour Japanese upskirt epic," but that doesn't even begin to cover the first hour-and-a-half.  This is a movie whose indelible scenes include both a zany "kung-fu training" sequence where the young upskirt photographer protagonist hones his craft, and a passionate, single-take recitation of Corinthians 13. It really has its own inner logic you have to experience.  No US dvd yet, but definitely recommended.
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Post by: Andy on August 16, 2010, 12:33:29 AM
I'll be posting my review of movies from Netflix on demand.

Night of the Living Dead (original)- boring.  I fell asleep during the opening.
District 9- better than I thought it would be.
Day of the dead (remake)- awful.
Chappelle's show Season 3- it's kind of sad.  It's just all the rejects from the previous season and some new stuff sprinkled in?
Top Gear Season11- I have some friends that swear by this show, but I still don't get it.  And I like British humour (see what I did there?)

The last 2 were TV shows, but I'll get back with more of my awesome movie reviews later.

You're welcome.
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Post by: Bryan on August 16, 2010, 09:56:02 AM
I don't know how effectively the novel delves into the themes of sexual violence, but those graphic scenes in the movie often felt simply lurid to me.  It's also a little hard to reconcile a feminist viewpoint with the "schlubby guy effortlessly beds hot bisexual chick" fantasy.

These were both definitely problems with the novels. And the portrayal of the protagonist (i.e. all women fall into bed with him at the drop of a hat) becomes especially ridiculous in light of the NY Times' recent profile of Larsson:  Blomquist is apparently a transparent stand-in for Larsson.
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Post by: JustNicole on August 16, 2010, 10:06:37 AM
I caved and saw Scott Pilgrim last night. I had an hour long conversation with my best friend dissecting what I thought it was going to be and how I didn't really want to contribute to that, as far as the little I knew about the plot. It just seemed like another movie about how some guy is chasing after some girl who's only redeeming quality is a cute haircut but has dated 7 other people and this provides a challenge, blah blah blah.

But, I couldn't shake it because I love video games and I enjoyed it a lot.
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Post by: Big Plastic Head on August 16, 2010, 11:59:32 AM
Watched Hard Eight for the first time in over ten years last night. It is still really great.
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Post by: Wes on August 16, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
Well I'll own up to having seen it.

Post-viewing Command of The English Language rankings in the main cast of The Expendables (best to worst): Terry Crews, Randy Couture, Bruce Willis, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Jason Statham, Eric Roberts, Mickey Rourke, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dolph Lundgren, Sylvester Stallone, Jet Li

Post-viewing update on the cast of The Expendables in a Glengarry Glen Ross remake:
Stone Cold Steve Austin - Ricky Roma
Terry Crews - Shelly "The Machine" Levene
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Blake
Sylvester Stallone - George Aaronow
Jason Statham - Dave Moss
Jet Li - John Williamson
Dolph Lundgren - James Lingk
Mickey Rourke - Larry Spannel
Randy Couture - The Cop
Bruce Willis - The Guy Who Fixes Roma's Telephone
Eric Roberts - Bartender at Restaurant
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Post by: jbissell on August 16, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO - I mainly recommend it if you must find out what the all the hype is about and don't want to read the book.  I don't know how effectively the novel delves into the themes of sexual violence, but those graphic scenes in the movie often felt simply lurid to me.  It's also a little hard to reconcile a feminist viewpoint with the "schlubby guy effortlessly beds hot bisexual chick" fantasy. Hard to say how David Fincher will handle the upcoming Hollywood version.

I see someone reading the book at least once a week and I'm just hoping that one time I'll catch the moment when that person hits the sexual violence that they're probably not expecting.
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Post by: crumbum on August 16, 2010, 10:34:09 PM
Well I'll own up to having seen it.

Post-viewing Command of The English Language rankings in the main cast of The Expendables (best to worst): Terry Crews, Randy Couture, Bruce Willis, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Jason Statham, Eric Roberts, Mickey Rourke, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dolph Lundgren, Sylvester Stallone, Jet Li

Post-viewing update on the cast of The Expendables in a Glengarry Glen Ross remake:
Stone Cold Steve Austin - Ricky Roma
Terry Crews - Shelly "The Machine" Levene
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Blake
Sylvester Stallone - George Aaronow
Jason Statham - Dave Moss
Jet Li - John Williamson
Dolph Lundgren - James Lingk
Mickey Rourke - Larry Spannel
Randy Couture - The Cop
Bruce Willis - The Guy Who Fixes Roma's Telephone
Eric Roberts - Bartender at Restaurant

Terry Crews is cool and all but how did President Comancho/Chris Rock's dad end up in this bunch?
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Post by: Wes on August 17, 2010, 09:22:46 AM
Terry Crews is cool and all but how did President Comancho/Chris Rock's dad end up in this bunch?

I believe a combination of being really huge for an actor/having appeared in a Schwarzenegger movie/Snipes, Forrest Whitaker and 50 Cent dropping out led to his casting. Also, Stallone was a huge fan of Battle Dome.

I thank you for not questioning his being awarded the Machine role in the Glengarry remake. His TV work has proven that he has the goods to make that store-bought crumb cake scene work.
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Post by: Chris L on August 17, 2010, 09:49:04 AM
Terry Crews is cool and all but how did President Comancho/Chris Rock's dad end up in this bunch?

I believe a combination of being really huge for an actor/having appeared in a Schwarzenegger movie/Snipes, Forrest Whitaker and 50 Cent dropping out led to his casting. Also, Stallone was a huge fan of Battle Dome.

I thank you for not questioning his being awarded the Machine role in the Glengarry remake. His TV work has proven that he has the goods to make that store-bought crumb cake scene work.

I was going to question why Keith David wasn't cast in The Expendables, but I don't really see him fitting into the Glengarry Glen Ross template.  Would a guy with a voice like that really have trouble selling real estate?
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Post by: Wes on August 17, 2010, 10:30:17 AM
My guess is that Keith David was disqualified from contention for The Expendables due to his obvious connections to Vin Diesel and the Riddick franchise. Schwarzenegger specifically chose to pass his torch to The Rock and snub The Deez, so it would have taken some intercession from Kurt Russell to get Arnold to sign off on letting David into the movie.

I think you're right, that David's voice would probably overqualify him for everything but the Blake role in Glengarry 2.0, which could only go to Arnold. That said, I would be in favor of a competing Glengarry remake project that had Keith David in the Blake role and David Keith in the Moss role. The two of them finally facing off would be like Heat times a million.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on August 18, 2010, 01:47:36 PM
Hmmmmm....

Inception Music Comparison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM#)
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Post by: jbissell on August 22, 2010, 04:45:42 PM
Piranha 3D was a lot of fun (except Steve McQueen's grandkid is dull).
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Post by: Chris L on August 23, 2010, 12:53:48 AM
Jan Troell's Everlasting Moments. Man oh man, see this one if you have the chance. Maybe the most beautifully shot film I've ever had the pleasure of seeing in a cinema. So many unforgettable images.

Great acting and a heartbreaking story which teeters on the edge of schmaltz, but the director has such a light touch he never lets it go there.

I'd love to hear Martin's take on this one as it takes place primarily in Malmo.

I had some problems with it, nothing major - the best/worst thing I can say about it is that it's "worthy"; serene and beautiful, but also sometimes dull, overlong and kind of repetetive (how many times do we need to see the father of the family come home drunk and beat up a random member of the family?). That said, Troell is a master, and his attention to detail is superb, he really has an eye for catching the everlasting moments, as it were (he shot the film too).

Definitely "CINEMA" of the old school variety - need to be seen in a theatre, for sure. Too bad he didn't have a bigger budget, you can definitely see the restrictions he had to put on the production, as far as sets and so on is concerned. Because of this we almost never get to see (for example) crane shots of an entire neighborhood - there just wasn't enough money to dress up an entire street to make it look like the early 1900's.

Malmö is well-presented in the film, although ironically, most of the working class hoods in the film are long gone - demolished in a big clean-up of the city in the 60s - so most of it had to be shot in other cities.

Watched this yesterday.  I agree it's overlong and the domestic blowups get a little repetitive, but the scenes involving photography are often genuinely affecting and always beautifully shot.   The Criterion blu-ray is strikingly grainy at times but never less than gorgeous.  They've alluded that they're doing The Emigrants and maybe The New World (Troell, not Malick) next.  Definitely a worthy film.

I was reminded I saw Coppola's TETRO recently too.  It's a pretty good watch if you want something unabashedly nostalgic for 60's European cinema, although it wouldn't be mistaken for any lost classic from that era.  The kid who stars with Gallo seems like he could be a future star. 

Oh, and A PROPHET is out on disc now too.  That's a riveting film. 
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on August 23, 2010, 01:14:14 PM
Piranha 3D was a lot of fun (except Steve McQueen's grandkid is dull).

Agreed. Lots of fun.  Good laughs, and Elizabeth Shue (from Maplewood btw) was in it!

However, bummed that Paul Scheer's character inexplicably disappears from the film.
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Post by: Christina on August 23, 2010, 01:51:23 PM
However, bummed that Paul Scheer's character inexplicably disappears from the film.

I had forgotten till I heard this week's Gems that Paul Scheer said something about what a hard R this was & that there was more nudity than he had ever seen in his life -- there are a LOT of naked ladies in this movie.
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Post by: jbissell on August 23, 2010, 02:25:42 PM
Piranha 3D was a lot of fun (except Steve McQueen's grandkid is dull).

Agreed. Lots of fun.  Good laughs, and Elizabeth Shue (from Maplewood btw) was in it!

However, bummed that Paul Scheer's character inexplicably disappears from the film.

Me too. He addressed this on his tumblr (http://tiny.cc/voyeh).
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Post by: Bryan on August 25, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
I just watched Nightmare Alley this weekend. Amazing! It's a portrait of a man working his way up through a carnival sideshow, and has lots of nice details about grifts and scams - especially mentalist acts.
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on August 25, 2010, 10:41:58 AM
The book is pretty good too, if you like that old-school hard-boiled pulp.  It seems to me it was reprinted not long ago with a foreword by Nick Tosches.  Or something.
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Post by: Chris L on August 25, 2010, 11:39:06 AM
I just watched Nightmare Alley this weekend. Amazing! It's a portrait of a man working his way up through a carnival sideshow, and has lots of nice details about grifts and scams - especially mentalist acts.

This movie is stone classic noir and has a line so great I hate to even allude to it.  One of the most defeated quotes I've ever heard. 
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on August 27, 2010, 11:00:51 AM
Just watched an old Mike Leigh comedy called Nuts In May.  Its main gag is poking fun at university-educated, urban, rather well-heeled know-it-all's by placing them into situations where they must "deal" with working class people in the British countryside.   Decent movie.  Funny at times. 
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Post by: Chris L on September 16, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
Man, Herzog's MY SON MY SON, WHAT HAVE YE DONE is utterly wretched.  It plays like the most clueless attempt to ape David Lynch since that miniseries Wild Palms.  There's even an inexplicable midget cameo.  Very disappointing.
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Post by: Martin on September 16, 2010, 04:43:23 AM
Did you take into consideration the fact that Lynch exec-produced it (though he apparently had a very hands-off approach)? I haven't seen it myself.
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Post by: masterofsparks on September 16, 2010, 08:11:41 AM
I just watched Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World, which I had inexplicably never seen. I know it basically tanked upon release, but I really enjoyed it. Brooks plays a schlubby(er) version of himself ala Real Life and gets shown around India by the Zodiac Killer!

I still haven't seen The Muse, which I've heard nothing but bad things about. Anyone have anything to say?
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Post by: Chris L on September 16, 2010, 08:36:24 AM
Did you take into consideration the fact that Lynch exec-produced it (though he apparently had a very hands-off approach)? I haven't seen it myself.

Yes, I know Werner is his own weirdo and probably wasn't trying to make his version of a Lynch movie, but the comparison is really hard to ignore, especially when you've got Grace Zabriskie, who's great in Lynch's films, aimlessly hamming it up here.  Herzog attempted to subvert an even dumber script than Bad Lieutenant but the results seem uninspired and the execution is poor.
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Post by: Bryan on September 16, 2010, 10:18:38 AM
I still haven't seen The Muse, which I've heard nothing but bad things about. Anyone have anything to say?

I saw The Muse on a plane. Not the ideal viewing experience obviously, but the film certainly didn't rise above the circumstances. I thought it was pretty awful, and I'm a big Albert Brooks fan.

Glad to hear you liked Looking for Comedy... I never got around to that one, either.
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Post by: Sarah on September 16, 2010, 04:57:47 PM
Oh, I hated that movie.  I think I didn't even bother to finish it, and that's unusual for me.

I watched Let the Right One In the other day.  Enjoyed it.  Especially the snow and the father's red cardigan.
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on September 17, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
You hated The Muse or Looking for Comedy etc?

I started Looking for comedy, but couldn't make it though. Fred Thompson's scene...<shudder>.
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Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2010, 11:11:56 AM
My, that was unclear, wasn't it.  I hated The Muse.  I haven't seen the other.
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Post by: Matt on September 17, 2010, 01:53:24 PM
I love LOOKING FOR COMEDY IN THE MUSLIM WORLD. Definitely Brooks' best since DEFENDING YOUR LIFE. The scene where he bombs at stand-up is unbelievably great. "Burn me!"

Looking For Comedy In The Muslim World - Albert Brooks Improvisation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHWU6nyJSgU#ws)
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Post by: effecT on September 19, 2010, 06:04:42 PM
the people making the movie "Get him to the Greek" obviously thought that success was an  increasing function of jonah hill throwing up
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Post by: dave from knoxville on September 19, 2010, 07:19:56 PM
the people making the movie "Get him to the Greek" obviously thought that success was an  increasing function of jonah hill throwing up

I was told there would be no math jokes.

But I like it.
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Post by: cutout on September 19, 2010, 11:15:22 PM
Just saw Catfish. I stupidly misread the description beforehand and thought it was a pseudo-documentary like the Blair Witch, so I didn't let myself get too invested in it. Then in the end credits, it became obvious it was an actual documentary. I may need to watch it again. In any case, it was marketed like some kind of horror thriller which it definitely isn't.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on September 20, 2010, 04:03:32 AM
I love LOOKING FOR COMEDY IN THE MUSLIM WORLD. Definitely Brooks' best since DEFENDING YOUR LIFE. The scene where he bombs at stand-up is unbelievably great. "Burn me!"

Looking For Comedy In The Muslim World - Albert Brooks Improvisation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHWU6nyJSgU#ws)



His Arabic wardrobe looks like he should be on 1960's spaceship.
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 20, 2010, 07:09:08 AM
Or like a member of a cult that's going to commit mass suicide the next time some damn comet comes around.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 20, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
Christmas With A Capital C Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZXFgJkD_q4#ws)

Fellow moneylenders/usurers,

The jig appears to be up for us. We've been sussed out by the makers of this film.

Time to try again in Canada.

-Jon

P.S. It has never bothered me...ever....when someone has said "Merry Christmas" to me.  Why would it?  It's a nice thing to say.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 20, 2010, 03:27:40 PM
"If it starts to detract us from the one whose birthday we're supposed to be celebrating." 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on September 20, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
"If it starts to detract us from the one whose birthday we're supposed to be celebrating."

Santa?

Sarah?  Omar?  Forrest?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on September 20, 2010, 09:29:57 PM
Now that they managed to get production values this good, I'm going to start flipping off anyone who wishes me a Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 20, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
Now that they managed to get production values this good, I'm going to start flipping off anyone who wishes me a Merry Christmas.

Win.
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Post by: davidgoeschatting on September 22, 2010, 01:33:10 PM
Queued this up a while back. "Short wait" has got to TBS-related, right?

(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2476/picture1072027.png)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on September 23, 2010, 07:13:52 AM
The problem with Robert Rodriguez and especially "Machete" is that he is not a very intelligent man.
He covers all the fanservice bases but forgets that movies actually have to have some cohesion and novelty in them to be good. Which is also the crucial difference between him and Tarantino. Tarantino can write dialogue that is funny, immersing and believable on some level and is always the necessary contrast to the stupid violence and fanservice. One guy on rottentomatoes said it all: "The trailer was better!"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: moonshake on September 29, 2010, 07:07:13 PM
I am really looking forward to this one. The trailer looks fantastic.

True Grit Trailer 2010 HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uco41pOKeJg#ws)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: MikeInManhattan on September 30, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
Death Wish 3 Review at Onion AV

http://www.avclub.com/articles/death-wish-3,45778/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/death-wish-3,45778/)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 03, 2010, 01:00:25 AM
Just watched Role Models.  Pleasantly surprised. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 03, 2010, 02:02:50 AM
I really cannot think of anything less interesting than a movie about the guys who invented facebook. What am I missing?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on October 03, 2010, 02:07:17 AM
I really cannot think of anything less interesting than a movie about the guys who invented facebook.

A documentary about the making of a movie about the guys who invented facebook.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on October 03, 2010, 03:09:48 AM
I really cannot think of anything less interesting than a movie about the guys who invented facebook. What am I missing?


I thought the same thing but i enjoyed the film, as Sorkin said himself its not really about Facebook its about friendship, betrayal, ambition, greed a story as old as time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 03, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
I really cannot think of anything less interesting than a movie about the guys who invented facebook. What am I missing?

It's a movie about the guys who invented Facebook about like The Right Stuff is a movie about engineering.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 03, 2010, 05:46:43 PM
I really cannot think of anything less interesting than a movie about the guys who invented facebook. What am I missing?

I'm wif you Andy. Another mark against this one for me is that, at least on the subway posters, they're prominently featuring a gushy quote from Peter Travers about how it's some kind of decade-defining film.

Peter Travers has always been a shitty film critic and given that he must be getting up there in age, I have to think he's deep in Bosley Crowther territory (circa 60s) at this point.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 03, 2010, 06:47:52 PM
I never saw The Rught Stuff, but based on the previews I've seen for The Social Network, I'm going to guess that The Right Stuff was really, really about engineering?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 03, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
Why am I even posting in this thread? I only like scary movies (the franchise, not the genre) and the last movie I saw in the theater was Tim Burton's masterful reimagining of Planet of the Apes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 04, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Why-come I'm only learning about this now? I must be out of it.

http://io9.com/5654684/first-inside-look-at-the-thing-prequel-shows-why-it-may-be-awesome-after-all (http://io9.com/5654684/first-inside-look-at-the-thing-prequel-shows-why-it-may-be-awesome-after-all)

The Thing nerds, thoughts?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 05, 2010, 07:43:09 AM
I had no idea Carpenter's remake was a religious icon.  Regardless, this one looks like it's going to be fun; I will enjoy watching it in a year or two.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 05, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
I had no idea Carpenter's remake was a religious icon.  Regardless, this one looks like it's going to be fun; I will enjoy watching it in a year or two.

I think it's more like Carpenter himself has been deified.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 05, 2010, 09:42:41 AM
Well, I guess as deities go he's provided more amusement than many.  Caused less pain, anyway.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 05, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
There's no way a prequel can hold up to the Carpenter film for one simple reason:  No Wilford Brimley sticking his hand into another man's face.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 05, 2010, 01:04:47 PM
There's no way a prequel can hold up to the Carpenter film for one simple reason:  No Wilford Brimley sticking his hand into another man's face.

Argument ender!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 05, 2010, 01:53:18 PM
But subtitles!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 06, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
Seen yesterday/today:

The Killer Inside Me - Disturbing. Dark. Some of the scenes are avert-your-eyes grim. Casey Affleck is pretty great.
Lourdes - Understated. Good. Slow. Great to see Elina Löwensohn in something again.
The Great Dictator - Over two fucking hours long. Boring. Not funny. Final speech redeeming.
Le ballon rouge - Beautiful. Simple. Short.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on October 10, 2010, 10:11:24 PM
Saw The Social Network tonight. There were huge lines to get in even though it was showing in multiple theaters at Union Square. I don't know if there's been a less likable cast of characters in a movie since Smokin' Aces.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on October 11, 2010, 07:29:15 AM
Finally saw Greenberg last night.

I thought it was pretty good, but then I might be identifying with it a wee bit too much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 11, 2010, 09:34:24 AM
I don't know if there's been a less likable cast of characters in a movie since Smokin' Aces.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!

Oh hang on a sec, I read that as Stroker Ace. Never mind.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 11, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
I don't know if there's been a less likable cast of characters in a movie since Smokin' Aces.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!

Oh hang on a sec, I read that as Stroker Ace. Never mind.

Stroczek Aces!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on October 11, 2010, 11:35:04 AM
(http://www.dreamagic.com/vivianrose/strokerAce.gif)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 11, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
*sniff* That's beautiful.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on October 11, 2010, 11:12:16 PM
(http://www.dreamagic.com/vivianrose/strokerAce.gif)

VELL come TO de GOOmer zshoow
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 13, 2010, 11:58:42 PM
When did movies start needing to have a swerve? I just watched Rear Window and it was boring. I've admitted in the past that I know nothing about movies, but it just seemed like every step was obvious and there was nothing shocking through the whole thing. I don't need someone's head punched off, but the big climax was a guy getting flashbulbs flashed in his  face?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on October 14, 2010, 12:08:03 AM
I just finished watching Maybe Logic

Talk about resonance.

I feel giddy.

I wouldn't have posted this except for the fact that this thread was a recent unread topic. 

Thanks, Andy!
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 14, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
When did movies start needing to have a swerve? I just watched Rear Window and it was boring. I've admitted in the past that I know nothing about movies, but it just seemed like every step was obvious and there was nothing shocking through the whole thing. I don't need someone's head punched off, but the big climax was a guy getting flashbulbs flashed in his  face?

Wow.

Movies really are doomed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 14, 2010, 06:38:14 AM
When did movies start needing to have a swerve? I just watched Rear Window and it was boring. I've admitted in the past that I know nothing about movies, but it just seemed like every step was obvious and there was nothing shocking through the whole thing. I don't need someone's head punched off, but the big climax was a guy getting flashbulbs flashed in his  face?

You missed the whole point of the movie, you goon. The point is that Alfred Hitchcock wanted to fuck Grace Kelly.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 07:42:21 AM
When did movies start needing to have a swerve? I just watched Rear Window and it was boring. I've admitted in the past that I know nothing about movies, but it just seemed like every step was obvious and there was nothing shocking through the whole thing. I don't need someone's head punched off, but the big climax was a guy getting flashbulbs flashed in his  face?

You missed the whole point of the movie, you goon. The point is that Alfred Hitchcock wanted to fuck Grace Kelly.
Perfect response. You just made my day. Thanks AC!
10/10, A+


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2010, 12:04:33 PM
Explain to me what I'm missing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 12:36:55 PM
You're not missing anything, you either like it or you don't in my opinion. It was just very funny, and probably very accurate what AC had to say. That close up of Grace Kelly going in to kiss Jimmy Stewart may have been the whole reason why the movie was made. I love many of Alfred Hitchcock's films, he's not for everyone.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2010, 12:52:11 PM
I was really more talking to CWN.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 12:59:30 PM
Apologies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
Not a problem. I should have been more clear. But I AM mad at Christina.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 14, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
Not a problem. I should have been more clear. But I AM mad at Christina.

Oh, please - everyone should be mad at YOU, since you've gone and doomed the movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on October 14, 2010, 01:15:51 PM
Not a problem. I should have been more clear. But I AM mad at Christina.

Oh, please - everyone should be mad at YOU, since you've gone and doomed the movies.

Andy just wants your energy, Auntie.  Don't give it to him.

Unless you have extra.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on October 14, 2010, 01:43:10 PM
Andy,
I feel the exact same way about Vertigo. The movie reveals the mystery and then there's another 40 minutes where everyone knows everything and they just plod to the inevitable ending. That movie had such an aura about it before I saw it.

I still like old movies, however.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 14, 2010, 02:20:13 PM
Now in that one, Alfred Hitchcock shows why, if you want to fuck Kim Novak, you'd be way better off going with Barbara Bel Geddes instead.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 14, 2010, 02:31:57 PM
Doesn't it have to do with perspective? And the fact that all the breakthrough stuff that Hitchcock did has been covered and re-covered by so many lesser directors over the years that you have been acclimated to his "tricks" that were original when he did them? Jesus, Andy, you sound like a damn Tea Partier.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 03:09:51 PM
Now in that one, Alfred Hitchcock shows why, if you want to fuck Kim Novak, you'd be way better off going with Barbara Bel Geddes instead.
Auntie C, you're killing me! Barbara Bel Geddes was way better then Kim Novak. IMHO. You should consider doing capsule reviews of movies. I find it very entertaining. Thank you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 14, 2010, 04:25:45 PM
Oh, stop it!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 14, 2010, 04:25:54 PM
As long as you mention what actress (or actor, don't judge) the director wants to fuck, obviously.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on October 14, 2010, 04:37:29 PM
Get Larry in on this and I think Depravity's Rainbow could have itself a movie review segment.

Possibly called Siskel & Prevert.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 14, 2010, 04:49:14 PM
Change Siskel into "Sick" something and you got a show.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 14, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
I'm not too fond of Hitchcock.  But I'm pretty sure I remember enjoying Rear Window more than many (hated Vertigo, for example).

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 14, 2010, 05:37:54 PM
Doesn't it have to do with perspective? And the fact that all the breakthrough stuff that Hitchcock did has been covered and re-covered by so many lesser directors over the years that you have been acclimated to his "tricks" that were original when he did them? Jesus, Andy, you sound like a damn Tea Partier.

On reflection, this doesn't come across as funny as I meant it. Or even funny at all. Andy, you have no reason to, but will you forgive me?

I stand by the 1st 2 sentences though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 05:45:09 PM

Doesn't it have to do with perspective? And the fact that all the breakthrough stuff that Hitchcock did has been covered and re-covered by so many lesser directors over the years that you have been acclimated to his "tricks" that were original when he did them? Jesus, Andy, you sound like a damn Tea Partier.

I stand by the 1st 2 sentences though.
The first two sentences are very accurate, I agree completely.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2010, 05:49:13 PM
I feel vindicated by the fact that no one has said "this is why I liked it" or "this is why it's good"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 14, 2010, 06:00:16 PM
I started watching Hitchcock movies over forty years ago, Dave, well before his tricks had become hackneyed.  And I've never loved him. 

Andy, I watched Rear Window around thirty years ago (at the Brattle Theatre in Cambridge, I think).  Damned if I can remember why I disliked it less than others.  Except for the fact that Grace Kelly is very pretty, of course.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on October 14, 2010, 06:29:18 PM
Is it just me or did The Social Network kind of stink? On the one hand I can appreciate David Fincher's ability to give just about any subject enough style and sheen to make it lots of fun to watch, and the acting was very good across the board. But I thought the script was hamfisted, with Zuckerberg in particular turned into a cipher and a monster, some kind of straw man stand in for everything Sorkin apparently loathes and doesn't understand about the internet.

Also, having seen very little of his TV work I can only conclude his reputation as a great writer of dialogue is overstated. His main trick -- having characters suddenly switch back and forth between topics mid-conversation, confusing each other and the audience -- got old fast for me. That opening scene patter was truly painful.

Maybe I'm just overreacting to all the hype. I did enjoy most of the film in the moment.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on October 14, 2010, 07:18:40 PM
I feel vindicated by the fact that no one has said "this is why I liked it" or "this is why it's good"

So, below are a few words I had posted ages ago on this topic...I have to comment, my two cents.

Are there any The Birds fans up for defending it? It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I remember it not being one of my favorites. I want to know where you guys are coming from.

I haven't seen enough of his filmography to list definitive favorites, but I do love North by Northwest.

I saw Rear Window at an impressionable age(I was 12-13? in the mid 1980s) that made me think about what elements make a good movie other then car chase scenes, imperial storm troopers or massive explosions. I was young and my exposure to films was limited to family friendly blockbusters. Watching Rear Window, I could feel my brain expand. The whole story takes place in some guys apartment?! No special effects, straight story. I was amazed that I could be captivated by a film in such a deceptively plain setting. The next Hitchcock film I saw not too long after, The Birds. Again, it is the story keeping me glued to my seat. Tippi Hendren is a bit much to take in some scenes. The story upstages everyone which allows me to forgive the imperfections of the film. Hitchcock confines your understanding of why the birds are attacking, limits the information from outside the small town to almost nothing. He uses fear of the unknown adding panic and terror...mix with water=a fun film to watch. The ending leaves everything open. No neatly wrapped up conclusion, all the loose ends left to the imagination. Twenty+ years later I can see it is not his strongest film, I still love watching it.

I could add more about the atmosphere and style of Rear Window, the art direction and color grading are very good, the lighting is very ok for the time is was made. Technicolor! The restoration alone was quite an achievement considering the original negative(s) were in rough shape. If restoration had been left any longer, it might have not been possible to have such a good looking version available.  I like watching Jimmy Stewart become obsessed with his neighbors and how he changes almost everyone's orbit around him regarding his obsession. The ethical choices being made by Stewart, sticking his nose in other peoples private lives. A slow burn that builds to a lame attempt at self defense, light bulbs as you pointed out. Grace Kelly, stunning creature..that close up of her is one of my favorite shots in movie making history. I have to admit to some level of nostalgia, more then I would like to. I love the look and feel of the film, the time it was shot informs most of that.It is a slow film, best viewed on the big screen. Is it the best film ever made? No. It entertains me, I can't ask for more. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on October 14, 2010, 07:33:19 PM
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I could add more about the atmosphere and style of Rear Window, the art direction and color grading are very good, the lighting is very ok for the time is was made. Technicolor! The restoration alone was quite an achievement considering the original negative(s) were in rough shape. If restoration had been left any longer, it might have not been possible to have such a good looking version available.  I like watching Jimmy Stewart become obsessed with his neighbors and how he changes almost everyone's orbit around him regarding his obsession. The ethical choices being made by Stewart, sticking his nose in other peoples private lives. A slow burn that builds to a lame attempt at self defense, light bulbs as you pointed out. Grace Kelly, stunning creature..that close up of her is one of my favorite shots in movie making history. I have to admit to some level of nostalgia, more then I would like to. I love the look and feel of the film, the time it was shot informs most of that.It is a slow film, best viewed on the big screen. Is it the best film ever made? No. It entertains me, I can't ask for more.

YEP!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on October 14, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
As long as you mention what actress (or actor, don't judge) the director wants to fuck, obviously.

The whole point of DISTURBIA is that DJ Caruso wants to fuck Sleepy LaBeef!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on October 14, 2010, 10:56:21 PM
As long as you mention what actress (or actor, don't judge) the director wants to fuck, obviously.

The whole point of DISTURBIA is that DJ Caruso wants to fuck Sleepy LaBeef!
That is disturbing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 14, 2010, 11:36:46 PM
That Hitchcock wanted to fuck Grace Kelly is demonstrable fact, but I don't agree that it's the whole point of Rear Window.

As for what you missed, Andy, I might mention off the top of my head: themes of impotence, sadism, masochism, the male gaze.  One of the greatest pieces of set design of the studio era. Hitchcock's agonizing awareness not only of his desire to fuck Grace Kelly but of his Catholic guilt over it.  Grace Kelly's wardrobe.  Hitchcock's canny implication of the audience in the thrill of cinematic voyeurism.  And the fact that despite his reputation as the Master of Suspense, Hitchcock's films are almost never mere thrill machines, but stories about conflicted sexual relationships, this case being (along with Vertigo, Psycho, and Notorious) among the most twisted.  Consider how Stewart's character fastens on the possible murder across his courtyard as a rationale for his fear of committing to a relationship with Kelly's.  And how he finally gets turned on by her only when she's in  mortal danger. Start there. If considerations like this really don't move you at all, I'll stand by my initial impression that it's responses like yours that typify the doom of cinema.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2010, 11:55:05 PM
Nice regurgitation.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stan on October 15, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
Nice regurgitation.

 Ha!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on October 15, 2010, 07:52:48 AM
Is it just me or did The Social Network kind of stink? On the one hand I can appreciate David Fincher's ability to give just about any subject enough style and sheen to make it lots of fun to watch, and the acting was very good across the board. But I thought the script was hamfisted, with Zuckerberg in particular turned into a cipher and a monster, some kind of straw man stand in for everything Sorkin apparently loathes and doesn't understand about the internet.

Also, having seen very little of his TV work I can only conclude his reputation as a great writer of dialogue is overstated. His main trick -- having characters suddenly switch back and forth between topics mid-conversation, confusing each other and the audience -- got old fast for me. That opening scene patter was truly painful.

Maybe I'm just overreacting to all the hype. I did enjoy most of the film in the moment.

Is this thing on?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 15, 2010, 08:11:29 AM
So, a less dick way of saying what I said in my last post:

There is no way that someone could come up with all of that by simply watching the film.  If that's what it takes to enjoy/appreciate film, then film is doomed.  But it's not because of the people who don't understand it. It's because of the snobbery and self-importance of the people who do.   
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 15, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
Well, that's still pretty dick.  I'll grant a couple of instances of critical jargon in my first sentence and then posit that anyone of passing filmgoing intelligence could see for themselves the other things I mentioned.

But hey, you're right!  Hitchcock is very highbrow, far beyond the comprehension of most people.  That's why his films have always been a cultivated taste, unpopular with mass audiences.  Cinema can only thrive by producing films that are easier to understand and enjoy than those of Alfred Hitchcock.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on October 15, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
So, a less dick way of saying what I said in my last post:

There is no way that someone could come up with all of that by simply watching the film.  If that's what it takes to enjoy/appreciate film, then film is doomed.  But it's not because of the people who don't understand it. It's because of the snobbery and self-importance of the people who do.

I thought everyone already knew that Speilberg and George Lucas killed Film.

What a bunch of yokels here!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 15, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
Well, that's still pretty dick.  I'll grant a couple of instances of critical jargon in my first sentence and then posit that anyone of passing filmgoing intelligence could see for themselves the other things I mentioned.

But hey, you're right!  Hitchcock is very highbrow, far beyond the comprehension of most people.  That's why his films have always been a cultivated taste, unpopular with mass audiences.  Cinema can only thrive by producing films that are easier to understand and enjoy than those of Alfred Hitchcock.

Dude, you kicked off this dickfest by saying that movies are doomed in response to Andy saying he wasn't into Rear Window.

And it's not just your first sentence that reeks of critical jargon-that whole post was loaded to the eyeballs with fancy pants crit-speak and a lot of hyperbolic poppycock thrown around, as well as a didactic, down-from-on-high tone to boot. You are deliberately interpreting your own way not only what Andy said, but also what I said.

Do you really think any of us who've seen RW must've been so woefully unprepared & poorly educated to take in all the shit you so helpfully pointed out? Or that, despite all of that, someone still may not care for the movie?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 15, 2010, 10:43:26 AM
I still say Grace Kelly is pretty.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 15, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
I agree with Sarah.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on October 15, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
"Grace Kelly's wardrobe."

Yeah, that's me, a regular Siegfreid Kracauer.

Quote
Do you really think any of us who've seen RW must've been so woefully unprepared & poorly educated to take in all the shit you so helpfully pointed out?

Um, no.  I said very specifically that I would expect most people who would see that movie to see most of what I pointed out.  It was Andy I was talking to, not you.

Actually, I think the dickishness began with "What did I miss?," which is always a tendentious question.  Andy said the movie bored him, and you know what they say about being bored, and I shouldn't even have offered an answer, except that he trumpeted it as a victory that nobody was bothering to.

"What did I miss" is always a hostile question, because the person asking it knows that he isn't going to get an answer that will satisfy him.  He already knows what he thinks.  He just wants to embarrass all the nameless others who have told him it was a great movie by putting their representatives on the spot and letting them waste their energy defending something that really doesn't need any defense.

I shouldn't have fallen into the trap.  Having come this far, let me offer another answer, but I don't expect it to impress him any more than the first:

Andy, you missed that it is a very good movie, cleverly written and stylishly directed, with interesting characters and an engaging plot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 15, 2010, 11:43:33 AM
I agree with Sarah.

Sometimes I get right to the heart of things.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 15, 2010, 11:48:13 AM

Actually, I think the dickishness began with "What did I miss?,"

Incorrect. Go back a few more posts where you typed "Movies really are doomed."

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 15, 2010, 11:52:48 AM

Is this thing on?

Ha!  I didn't see it yet. Sorry.

The only reason no one responded to your post was because you posted it in the middle of a "heated" discussion.  You are loved! : )
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on October 15, 2010, 11:56:50 AM
I agree with Sarah and Martin.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 15, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
You couldn't make a cup of tea with the heat generated by spats on this board.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 15, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Can't believe we haven't mentioned Woody Allen after three pages of discussing directors who want to fuck their actresses (or actors). 

Imagine if every autumn you posted a Facebook update mentioning who you most want to fuck. That is what Woody Allen's films are.*




*Fine, they're a lot more than that, but they are that.




Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on October 15, 2010, 12:57:06 PM
There's another director I don't love so much.  Not that I dislike his movies or anything.  I've just never understood the respect verging on worship some people I have known have shown for both him (and Hitchcock, for that matter).  Whether I am missing something or others see something that isn't there doesn't really matter to me:  I'm lukewarm about both, and that's okay.  I don't need to love everything.  Hell, loving anything is an achievement.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 15, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
Imagine if every autumn you posted a Facebook update mentioning who you most want to fuck.

You just gave me a GREAT idea!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on October 15, 2010, 01:10:58 PM
Imagine if every autumn you posted a Facebook update mentioning who you most want to fuck.

You just gave me a GREAT idea!

Just warning you, I have the rights to the word Fuckbook as well as the domain name fuckbook.com
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 15, 2010, 01:36:54 PM
Fuckbook.gov?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stan on October 15, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
Fuckbook.gov?

 What about Fuckbook.org? I'm not in it for the money.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 15, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
Still waiting for more people to agree with me. Can't remember what I said, but it had to be good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 15, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
I'm pretty sure you just called me a hillbilly.
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Post by: Stupornaut on October 15, 2010, 09:37:10 PM
Imagine if every autumn you posted a Facebook update mentioning who you most want to fuck.

You just gave me a GREAT idea!

Just warning you, I have the rights to the word Fuckbook as well as the domain name fuckbook.com

Man, I bet Yo La Tengo is super mad at you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 15, 2010, 10:26:30 PM
I'm pretty sure you just called me a hillbilly.

Oklahoma has hills?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 16, 2010, 01:24:08 AM
wow. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on October 16, 2010, 12:01:16 PM
wow. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.

So you don't need anyone to explain this one to you?
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Post by: fonpr on October 16, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
wow. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.

So you don't need anyone to explain this one to you?

Herzog----> Cage... blah blah...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 16, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
wow. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.

There's really not much more that can be said about that movie.

Saw it in the movie theater. When Cage assaults that old lady, my (embarassingly drunk) friend yelled out "OSCAR!"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on October 17, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
Allow me to get Cavorting's back on this one (on Hitchock, not on Andy dooming cinema).  Critical theory and historical importance aren't going to make you like something if you don't.  But they're just as legitimate as any other reason for liking something.  And really, to the Hitchcock haters here, what kind of explanation would make you actually like him? 

I do like Hitchcock quite a bit, though I agree that the pacing is slow and anticlimactic -- basically he was a bridge between the ponderous, melodramatic, old-timey filmmaking of the 40s and the movies of today.  What fascinates me about his movies, though, is not their technique, but the total perversion he managed to embed in a mainstream Hollywood movies, using charming and safe leading men to do so.  It would be like if The Human Centipede starred Tom Hanks and Sandra Bullock (only not quite so shitty, one assumes).

Auntie Christina is probably right about him wanting to fuck his various leading ladies, but evidently he was incapable of doing so.  And so, using the camera and the narrative, he renders them all unfuckable for the viewer as well.  Isn't Janet Leigh hot?  Well here's her incredibly disturbing (for the time) murder.  Like checking out the sexy lady across the way?  Well, America's everyman is made impotent in the face of her murder.  The transformation of Kim Novak in Vertigo is designed to make the viewer feel nauseous and guilty about finding her sexy.  Etc.

Again, if you don't like Hitchcock, nothing I can say is likely to change your mind, but that's why I like him.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on October 17, 2010, 10:49:45 PM
This is what I was looking for, Mr. Grote.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: snogrog on October 17, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
wow. Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.

There's really not much more that can be said about that movie.

Saw it in the movie theater. When Cage assaults that old lady, my (embarassingly drunk) friend yelled out "OSCAR!"

Holy moley.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on October 18, 2010, 09:11:57 PM
Thanks, Andy.  Cinema is saved!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on October 18, 2010, 09:32:14 PM
I hate it when people think I'm pretending to like something just so that people think I'm cool or smart. I mean, I've done that plenty of times, I just don't like it when people *think* I'm doing it when I'm not.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fletcher munson on October 19, 2010, 08:08:46 AM
This guy made a comedy in 1994, right?
Lars von Trier's "The Kingdom" - Watch it now on demand! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqOQ1DAR3Pw&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on October 19, 2010, 09:21:52 AM
You know that The Kingdom (Riget) was made in 1994, right?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on October 30, 2010, 11:19:05 PM
There's another director I don't love so much.  Not that I dislike his movies or anything.  I've just never understood the respect verging on worship some people I have known have shown for both him (and Hitchcock, for that matter).  Whether I am missing something or others see something that isn't there doesn't really matter to me:  I'm lukewarm about both, and that's okay.  I don't need to love everything.  Hell, loving anything is an achievement.

I think so much of Woody's '70s stuff was ahead of its time, and the success of Seinfeld bears that out (not that Larry David's style is identical to Woody's).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on October 31, 2010, 12:06:21 AM
Saw the Stephin Merritt documentary Strange Powers (http://www.google.com/movies?hl=en&sort=1&ei=8-bMTI7yDMWAlAfg3-TnCA&mid=a0188ea4d2ae5605&near=new+york,+ny,+usa&view=list#trailer) tonight and it made me appreciate them all over again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on October 31, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Forgot to mention, the Magnetic Fields movie had interview blurbs from various WFMU people like Monica Lynch.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on November 05, 2010, 08:17:53 PM
just watched "You Again"
1.Stop trying to sell us beautiful people as ugly ducklings Hollywood!
2.Not all old people are constantly horny!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on November 06, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
But her hair was up and/or she was wearing glasses. Grotesque, right?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 06, 2010, 10:33:11 AM
Watched "Crazy Heart" last night out of curiosity.  First 80% gets a thumbs up from me.  The last 20% gets five thumbs down from me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 06, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
Watching Jamie Kennedy's movie Heckler. Was happy to see appearances by PFT and Patton Oswalt. Was confused to see appearances by Larry Flynt, John Salley and Chingy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 06, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
Watched "Crazy Heart" last night out of curiosity.  First 80% gets a thumbs up from me.  The last 20% gets five thumbs down from me.

Jon, have you seen Tender Mercies? A vastly superior film in my opinion, which deals with a lot of the same themes as Crazy Heart, but is so much gentler and sweeter and more genuine. It's impossible not to compare the two - Robert Duvall plays a drunk country singer who's past his prime and down on his luck, etc...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on November 07, 2010, 07:29:46 AM
Watching Jamie Kennedy's movie Heckler. Was happy to see appearances by PFT and Patton Oswalt. Was confused to see appearances by Larry Flynt, John Salley and Chingy.

I still laugh every time when i see the scene where his doctor consoles/patronizes him on "Son of The Mask". Kennedy's face is priceless.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 07, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
Watched "Crazy Heart" last night out of curiosity.  First 80% gets a thumbs up from me.  The last 20% gets five thumbs down from me.

Jon, have you seen Tender Mercies? A vastly superior film in my opinion, which deals with a lot of the same themes as Crazy Heart, but is so much gentler and sweeter and more genuine. It's impossible not to compare the two - Robert Duvall plays a drunk country singer who's past his prime and down on his luck, etc...

I have not seen it, but it is oddly enough way high in my Netflix cue. I might have to move it to the top. Interesting that Duvall was one of the producers of "Crazy Heart" and played a major role.  Maybe they were trying to do a remake without doing a remake?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 07, 2010, 11:31:17 AM
When I watched Crazy Heart I thought the casting of Duvall was a nice homage to Tender Mercies, but I hadn't noticed he's one of the producers.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 07, 2010, 04:02:12 PM
Tender Mercies is one beautiful movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 09, 2010, 03:16:24 PM
Hollywood doesn't want us to see this one.

tiptoes_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM#)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: NJL on November 09, 2010, 03:48:15 PM
Hollywood doesn't want us to see this one.

tiptoes_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM#)

Even Dwarfs Started Small 2?
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Post by: jbissell on November 09, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
Hollywood doesn't want us to see this one.

tiptoes_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM#)

I saw it last summer. It's bizzare, but not really in an entertaining way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 09, 2010, 05:50:41 PM
Hollywood doesn't want us to see this one.

tiptoes_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM#)

"That's what I like about these midgets.  I keep growing, they stay the same height."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 09, 2010, 06:24:32 PM
Furthermore, Tiptoes is directed by Matthew Bright, the underrated auteur behind Freeway and Freeway II: Confessions of a Trickbaby, the former featuring the best performance of "Don't Fear the" Keifer Sutherland's career, the latter featuring one of the best (but really, how can you choose) performances that Sir Prince Vincent Gallo ever delivered unto the Golden Silver Screen (he plays a Mexican nun, why?).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: mostlymeat on November 09, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
The Manitou: Tony Curtis, past his prime, in a schlocky low budget horror movie, which ends up being one of the most creative and fun movies I've ever seen. Every scene gets weirder than the last, and the climax is out of this world!

The Manitou (trailer) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKU9hzRq6k#ws)

Best of 2010 (from '78).

-Ajax

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Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on November 10, 2010, 10:45:55 PM
hm. looks too weird for me, even for a lazy Sunday.

not to mention, i can never handle the screams of women from the 50s-60s...too shrill. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 10, 2010, 11:13:36 PM
It showcases method acting at its best.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on November 11, 2010, 06:38:29 PM
Watching: "I'm Still Here"
What a heap of dung. Joaquin Phoenix is like an unpleasant, unfunny and dirty Zach Galifianakis.
Pure untertainment!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on November 11, 2010, 11:07:50 PM
Joaquin Phoenix is like an unpleasant, unfunny and dirty Zach Galifianakis.

although you are correct on comparing their similar physical aspects (kind of), it still feels wrong comparing the great ZG to that dope.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 11, 2010, 11:08:00 PM
Watching: "I'm Still Here"
What a heap of dung. Joaquin Phoenix is like an unpleasant, unfunny and dirty Zach Galifianakis.
Pure untertainment!

I haven't seen this, but based on what I've seen from Joaquin's appearances in the last year or so, and Tom's description 2 weeks ago, and things like the above here .... I"m thinking this is like some kind of unholy collaboration between Crispin Glover, Andy Kaufman AND Tony Clifton.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on November 12, 2010, 07:15:27 AM
Joaquin Phoenix is like an unpleasant, unfunny and dirty Zach Galifianakis.

although you are correct on comparing their similar physical aspects (kind of), it still feels wrong comparing the great ZG to that dope.

What i was trying to convey is that he is trying to copy the physical appearance and  unique charm of Zach.
He did not succeed with the latter.
In fact looking back on the first time i saw him in this get up on Letterman i thought he had conceived a great funny persona. But the thing is: He is definitely not original. I watched some of Zach's material from the Purple Onion DVD and his late night show and it is apparent that he is not only a greatly funny man but also always relatable and nice in his shrewed way.
I can find nothing admirable in his performance and this stunt.
!!![SPOILER]!!!
I am also not a fan of prostitution and defecation upon humans.
There was no need for that.

I am gonna stop thinking about this now, it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 12, 2010, 08:33:12 AM
Like you, "I am also not a fan of prostitution AND defecation upon humans." But, you know, one or the other might be OK in moderation.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on November 12, 2010, 11:44:22 AM
Like you, "I am also not a fan of prostitution AND defecation upon humans." But, you know, one or the other might be OK in moderation.
I see you are finding your inner Kevin Allin. That's healthy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 12, 2010, 12:03:28 PM
Like you, "I am also not a fan of prostitution AND defecation upon humans." But, you know, one or the other might be OK in moderation.
I see you are finding your inner Kevin Allin. That's healthy.

More like my inner Edwin C Newman. And he's dead, so that's probably not healthy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 12, 2010, 01:53:37 PM
Hollywood doesn't want us to see this one.

tiptoes_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM#)

"That's what I like about these midgets.  I keep growing, they stay the same height."

A+
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 19, 2010, 10:44:45 PM
Certified Copy is so goddamn good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Andy on November 21, 2010, 08:32:41 PM
Cabin Boy is the most underrated movie of all time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on November 21, 2010, 09:43:34 PM
The Hangover was really fun.  I loved the structure and realistic absurdity.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 21, 2010, 10:24:29 PM
The Hangover was really fun.  I loved the structure and realistic absurdity.

Since at least part of the sequel is set in Shanghai, will they call it the Shangover?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 22, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
Cabin Boy is the most underrated movie of all time.

I've got to revisit that one. I recently had the chance to watch all of Get A Life - holy cow, is it amazing!
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Post by: crumbum on November 22, 2010, 07:32:38 PM
Cabin Boy is the most underrated movie of all time.

I've got to revisit that one. I recently had the chance to watch all of Get A Life - holy cow, is it amazing!

I've been meaning to see Cabin Boy for years... I mainly associate it with an interview I read once with Ira from YLT where he described going to see it while on tour and being the only one in the theatre.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 22, 2010, 07:34:59 PM
Cabin Boy is truly awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 22, 2010, 10:35:52 PM
'You're one of those Fancy Lads'
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on November 22, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
"This is how a harem girl dances!"

And who could forget Russ Tamblyn's moving portrayal of Chocki!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 23, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
I watched EASY A last night. This might come as a surprise, but it was good. And Emma Stone was 100% GREAT.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 26, 2010, 11:33:41 AM
Since I was home alone the evening before Thanksgiving, I figured why not watch The Human Centipede? A couple of points.

1) Despite what you might have heard, it's not ever "uplifting".

2) I have a quibble with a couple of the ploy points.

3) I believe that a brief monologue near the end may have been lifted from an unpublished screenplay by Kurosawa.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Stupornaut on November 26, 2010, 01:18:42 PM
2) I have a quibble with a couple of the ploy points.

The description of Human Centipede having a series of "ploy points" is so on the money I'm wondering if this was even a typo.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 28, 2010, 12:08:32 PM
Saw the latest Harry Potter last night. I've liked the last three or four films in the series quite a bit despite having tried and given up quickly on the books, but this movie was a total snooze. It has little narrative structure and is full of bizarre elisions. For example (spoiler), a CGI elf gets a very protracted melodramatic hero's-death-and-burial scene, but Brendan Gleeson's (fairly prominent) character apparently dies just off-screen while saving Harry's life and is barely mentioned.

There are a million other things that seem completely arbitrary and free of the rules of narrative logic, to the point where I stopped caring about anything. Why is the sword in that particular pond? Why does Harry seem able to speak and understand the snake language? What are the rules of teleportation? What gave Ron that injury to his arm (explained, I think, but much too quickly for me)? How much did they pay John Hurt to show up for a five second background role? And finally, deathly hallows and horcruxes? How many more goddamned trinkets do we have to watch them search for?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 28, 2010, 12:47:47 PM
Why is the sword in that particular pond? Why does Harry seem able to speak and understand the snake language? What are the rules of teleportation?

I'm pretty sure these were all answered in previous movies. It sounds like the movie doesn't go out of its way to fill in back story, which I suppose can be either good or bad, depending on your level of familiarity with the other stories.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on November 28, 2010, 01:22:08 PM
I haven't watched this one yet, but I know I thought the last one must have been very difficult to follow for anyone who had not read the book.  Deathly Hallows the book contains a lot of miserable trudging around outdoors, so I would have expected it to make more sense to nonreaders.  Guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on December 02, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
I watched "You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger"
It's comparable to the following scenario:
You are a little boy/girl and run up to your old uncle Woody and you say:"Tell me a story, unc!"
So he tells you a story for about two hours, then suddenly stops, cuts a fart and leaves.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on December 02, 2010, 03:24:58 PM
I'm going to check out Two-Lane Blacktop. Dennis Wilson and James Taylor as leads intrigues me very much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 02, 2010, 06:05:45 PM
I'm going to check out Two-Lane Blacktop. Dennis Wilson and James Taylor as leads intrigues me very much.

The brilliance of Warren Oates quickly leaves those two mannequins in the dust.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 02, 2010, 06:54:40 PM
I'm going to check out Two-Lane Blacktop. Dennis Wilson and James Taylor as leads intrigues me very much.

The brilliance of Warren Oates quickly leaves those two mannequins in the dust.

Agreed.  I like that movie a lot, but the only good things about James Taylor's presence in it are: (1) the hilarity of seeing him get tough with a challenger whom he calls "motherfucker;" and (2) seeing him get cock-blocked by Dennis -- who's a lot cooler but really doesn't have much else to do, and if you can't cock-block James Taylor, what good are you really?.

So why do I like it, you ask?

OATES.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on December 02, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
I tried watching The Wild and Wonderful Whites but I couldn't get past the twenty minute mark when they kept showing a close-up of that old woman's feet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 06, 2010, 12:51:17 AM
Kinda conflicted about Black Swan.  Portman is really good, but it never feels crazy enough; or trashy, sexy, gross, or original enough.  Or surprising at all.  Yet I would still say it's worth seeing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on December 06, 2010, 08:28:13 AM
I just watched a movie called Below. It had Zach Galifianakis in it. It's about a haunted submarine in WWII. It was written by Darren Aronofsky.

This movie was surprisingly good, I must say. I'm not a huge ghost story fan but this one had some good tension and at least "haunted submarine" is sort of original.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 06, 2010, 08:37:27 AM
Kinda conflicted about Black Swan.  Portman is really good, but it never feels crazy enough; or trashy, sexy, gross, or original enough.  Or surprising at all.  Yet I would still say it's worth seeing.

I'm okay with Portman but alot of people I know just despise her. I do really want to see this because the Wrestler was so good. Can't make much of the film from the trailer, which I like. Metamorphosis?

Somewhere looks promising, if you like Sofia Coppola.
and
WHEN THE F IS TREE OF LIFE COMING? I want IMAX! It's been a year since last year's predicted Christmas release.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 06, 2010, 10:18:12 AM
I just watched a movie called Below. It had Zach Galifianakis in it. It's about a haunted submarine in WWII. It was written by Darren Aronofsky.

This movie was surprisingly good, I must say. I'm not a huge ghost story fan but this one had some good tension and at least "haunted submarine" is sort of original.

Das Ghost?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on December 06, 2010, 12:27:59 PM
Any opinions on good baseball documentaries? Maybe something the equivalent of Hoop Dreams for basketball?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 06, 2010, 03:09:40 PM
It's not a documentary but I really enjoyed Sugar from last year.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 06, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
Any opinions on good baseball documentaries? Maybe something the equivalent of Hoop Dreams for basketball?

I don't think Netflix has it but the Brooklyn Dodgers HBO documentary Ghosts of Flatbush is really good. Even though it's focused on one team, you don't have to be a Dodgers fan to enjoy it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 06, 2010, 06:11:43 PM
Kinda conflicted about Black Swan.  Portman is really good, but it never feels crazy enough; or trashy, sexy, gross, or original enough.  Or surprising at all.  Yet I would still say it's worth seeing.

I'm okay with Portman but alot of people I know just despise her. I do really want to see this because the Wrestler was so good. Can't make much of the film from the trailer, which I like. Metamorphosis?

Somewhere looks promising, if you like Sofia Coppola.
and
WHEN THE F IS TREE OF LIFE COMING? I want IMAX! It's been a year since last year's predicted Christmas release.

Tree of Life is coming out in May, apparently.  There's actually a trailer playing before Black Swan.  Not surprisingly, it looks like something really special, although I'm ambivalent as usual about some of the voiceovers.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on December 06, 2010, 07:55:57 PM
Any opinions on good baseball documentaries? Maybe something the equivalent of Hoop Dreams for basketball?

Ever hear of Ken Burns?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on December 06, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
Any opinions on good baseball documentaries? Maybe something the equivalent of Hoop Dreams for basketball?

Ever hear of Ken Burns?

Gee wiz, how did that one not cross my mind? Actually, I still haven't seen it yet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on December 22, 2010, 10:16:22 AM
In the last 48 hours i have seen:
Outrage(Takeshi Kitano)
Somewhere(Sofia Cobbler)
Black Swan(Darren Aronovsky)
Winter's Bone(Debra Granik)
Trashbleepers(Hermione Korine)

only two of these movies were bad
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 22, 2010, 10:28:59 AM
Kinda conflicted about Black Swan.  Portman is really good, but it never feels crazy enough; or trashy, sexy, gross, or original enough.  Or surprising at all.  Yet I would still say it's worth seeing.

Pretty much how I felt about it too. Most of the Vincent Cassel scenes were pretty awful.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on December 22, 2010, 12:19:22 PM
I just watched Withnail & I on Netflix instant streaming. What an awesome movie. After finding pop culture artifacts like this completely on my own, it makes me jealous of people who had cool parents or older siblings/cousins that could lead them to that stuff. Damn it, all the cool shit I've seen or heard, I've earned!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 22, 2010, 09:25:08 PM
I just watched Exit Through The Gift Shop.  I feel like I'm opening myself up for ridicule by admitting how much I loved it, and that I think Banksy is a fucking genius, but holy moley, I loved it.  The real significance of it didn't hit me until about ten minutes after it ended but now I can't stop thinking about it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on December 22, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
I just watched Exit Through The Gift Shop.  I feel like I'm opening myself up for ridicule by admitting how much I loved it, and that I think Banksy is a fucking genius, but holy moley, I loved it.  The real significance of it didn't hit me until about ten minutes after it ended but now I can't stop thinking about it.

It's the best film of the year!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2010, 04:02:20 AM
It's really good. Banksy's really good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 23, 2010, 09:07:52 AM
I just watched Withnail & I on Netflix instant streaming. What an awesome movie. After finding pop culture artifacts like this completely on my own, it makes me jealous of people who had cool parents or older siblings/cousins that could lead them to that stuff. Damn it, all the cool shit I've seen or heard, I've earned!

Loved it.  Chicken clucking on table. Withnail: "How can we make it die?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 23, 2010, 09:10:19 AM
In the last 48 hours i have seen:
Outrage(Takeshi Kitano)
Somewhere(Sofia Cobbler)
Black Swan(Darren Aronovsky)
Winter's Bone(Debra Granik)
Trashbleepers(Hermione Korine)

only two of these movies were bad

Hermione Korine!  Nice.

The foulmouthed, unfunny comedian in Trash Bleepers is one of my oldest, dearest friends. He was an usher at my wedding.  (Lamest brag ever)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 23, 2010, 12:19:43 PM
I agree on 'Exit Through The Gift Shop'. I haven't enjoyed a movie so thoroughly for a long time. I hadn't so much thought about the link between street art and 'Maker culture' before watching that movie, but it's definitely there - altering your environment and resisting the tendency to passively consume and accept everything around you.

Earlier that same night, I had started watching 'Brief Interviews With Hideous Men'. I really hated it, and lasted about 20 minutes. I've never been so happy about ditching a movie for a different one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on December 23, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
I just watched Exit Through The Gift Shop.  I feel like I'm opening myself up for ridicule by admitting how much I loved it, and that I think Banksy is a fucking genius, but holy moley, I loved it.  The real significance of it didn't hit me until about ten minutes after it ended but now I can't stop thinking about it.

I just watched it for the first time yesterday. where do you stand on the hoax/not hoax debate?

I'm for it being at least a bit fake, it wouldn't be as fun if it wasn't. i like the idea of banksy tricking the art world into buying tons of crappy ripoff art from a fake artist based on hype alone. but I've heard theories claiming that it's entirely fake and mr brainwash's "years of footage" is just footage footage shot by the artists themselves, he's not really invader's cousin, etc.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on December 23, 2010, 02:42:33 PM
What's great about the film/Banksy is that the whole truth will likely never be known.  He has an amazing ability to maintain his mystique in an increasingly mystique-free world.  Spike should consult him for tips.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on December 23, 2010, 04:28:11 PM
I made an entire thread about that movie:
http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,7277.msg160838.html#msg160838 (http://friendsoftom.com/forum/index.php/topic,7277.msg160838.html#msg160838)

feel free to comment
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on December 24, 2010, 12:03:42 AM
Saw Tron: Legacy.

IT WAS AWESOME.

LIKE, LOONIE TUNES CRAZY AWESOME.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 24, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
Saw Tron: Legacy.

IT WAS AWESOME.

LIKE, LOONIE TUNES CRAZY AWESOME.

You are maybe the only person I've heard that liked it. I should have gone on opening night, so as to catch it before all the hating. I will probably still go see it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on December 24, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
True Grit ended with Iris Dement singing a hymn. You can't get much better than that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 24, 2010, 08:05:21 PM
True Grit ended with Iris Dement singing a hymn. You can't get much better than that.

I liked it lots. Damon did a really good job as a lawman with dandyish leanings. "Gentlemen, shooting at cornbread from the prairie isn't getting us any closer to Pepper."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 25, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***




My theory is that Thierry had actually shot all that footage and didn't know what to do with it, but around the time when he started hanging out with Banksy, Banksy had the bright idea to create Mr. Brainwash and finish the film himself.  But I wholeheartedly agree with Omar that we'll never know, and that's great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 01, 2011, 05:04:06 PM
I am that odd creature, someone who doesn't have much use for the Coens, but I liked True Grit very much. Maybe that makes it a Coen Brothers movie for people who don't like the Coen Brothers, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on January 01, 2011, 05:37:47 PM
Ha ha, that makes sense b/c I wasn't thrilled with it.  It was good but not great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 01, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 01, 2011, 08:20:32 PM
I felt like the Doctor with the bear head was a very Coen Brothers moment. That and the gallows scene: 'before I'm hanged I'd like to say.....'
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 01, 2011, 11:17:19 PM
I felt like the Doctor with the bear head was a very Coen Brothers moment. That and the gallows scene: 'before I'm hanged I'd like to say.....'

Even though the dialogue is straight from the book (as far as I can remember), the negotiation between Mattie and the merchant felt very Coen Brothers. I suppose this, and other similarities, are because Charles Portis was probably a big influence on their writing. Therefore, my saying that the movie doesn't feel like their other stuff is probably not entirely accurate. I said that because I can see how closely the movie follows the book, but that's probably because the book and the author played such a big part in who Joel and Ethan Coen are.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on January 01, 2011, 11:36:17 PM
I felt like the Doctor with the bear head was a very Coen Brothers moment. That and the gallows scene: 'before I'm hanged I'd like to say.....'

Even though the dialogue is straight from the book (as far as I can remember), the negotiation between Mattie and the merchant felt very Coen Brothers. I suppose this, and other similarities, are because Charles Portis was probably a big influence on their writing. Therefore, my saying that the movie doesn't feel like their other stuff is probably not entirely accurate. I said that because I can see how closely the movie follows the book, but that's probably because the book and the author played such a big part in who Joel and Ethan Coen are.

That was indeed a very Coens-y scene; nice casting of character actor Dakin Matthews, who has popped up in about 200 TV shows over the years.  I particularly enjoyed his work as Headmaster Charleston on Gilmore girls.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 02, 2011, 02:48:54 PM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.

Wait til you see MY take on it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 02, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.

The problem with this is: I haven't read the Portis book, but I have read No Country for Old Men, and the movie definitely follows it very closely, and no one says "anyone" could have made that. (My own problem with that one wasn't that it was afflicted by what I would pejoratively term Coenism, but that it was almost pointless: a perfectly faithful illustration of the book that had everything except what was best about the book, i. e. Cormac McCarthy's prose.)

I'm afraid that those of us who claim True Grit is among their best (I would say it and Miller's Crossing are the only ones I genuinely liked) are going to stand convicted of sentimentality or something by Coenists who presumably miss their characteristically cold facetiousness and think we only like it because it has heroes an' shit.  I really don't care that much about heroism and like plenty of movies that have no sympathetic characters. I just thought that on this one, they got out of their own way and didn't let their own self-regarding cleverness interfere with showing what master filmmakers they admittedly have become.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 02, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.

The problem with this is: I haven't read the Portis book, but I have read No Country for Old Men, and the movie definitely follows it very closely, and no one says "anyone" could have made that.

The difference being that one of these books was written in 1968 (when Joel was 14 and Ethan was 11) and the other in 2005. Which goes back to my earlier point, that Charles Portis's writing had a profound influence on these two as young men, playing a big part in the artists they would later become, and No Country For Old Men was just a book whose filmic adaptation was very well-suited to their style. In other words, Charles Portis is so important to who the Coen Brothers are that they have no choice but to follow the source as closely as possible.

When I say that it seems like anyone could've made it, I was referring only to the screenplay. Visually, it's very much in their style. Roger Deakins did a really exceptional job on the cinematography here.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on January 02, 2011, 06:11:50 PM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.

Wait til you see MY take on it.

...?

What is it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 02, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
He said "wait."  Jeez.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 03, 2011, 12:00:32 AM
It does make sense because it's very un-Coensy. Their devotion to the source material is such that, of all their movies, it felt like the one anyone could've made.

Wait til you see MY take on it.

...?

What is it?

Since anyone could have made it, I am going to remake it
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 03, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
I liked The King's Speech very much.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on January 03, 2011, 04:40:36 PM
I felt like True Grit kind of just...ended. You know? I liked seeing Maddie when she was grown up and still just as awesome but that whole coda just kind of felt like padding. I don't know exactly what I mean.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DJ Clem on January 03, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
I felt like True Grit kind of just...ended. You know? I liked seeing Maddie when she was grown up and still just as awesome but that whole coda just kind of felt like padding. I don't know exactly what I mean.
[possible SPOILERS below...]







HATED the cave scene. CGI snakes...

Now that you mention it, the final bit did feel sort of 'tacked on'. I liked the look of the actress who played grown-up Maggie--I think she captured the spirit of the character more than the young girl. Her missing arm really drove it home. Aside from that, yeah...kinda blah.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 03, 2011, 06:54:02 PM
I thought the coda was fine. It showed, and the elder actress made you feel, how Mattie had stayed her resolute, unyielding self for 25 years and had paid a cost for it. My first impression on seeing the actress was that she looked older than 14+25 years, but then I realized, of course she does--it's been a hard existence she's led for herself.

I like the original movie fine, but a comparison with the hokey uplift at its ending--"Come see a fat old man sometime!"--really exemplifies why this one is vastly better.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 03, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
It's been awhile since I saw the original True Grit movie, but I don't remember the final race to the doctor by Mattie and Rooster being quite so grim - I'm trying to be circumspect for those who haven't seen the movie, but I'm talking about the thing with the horse carrying them. Can anyone remember?

I also think Roger Ebert made a good point with his review's comparison of the two films' treatment of the Cogburn character - Wayne (who I think did a good job) looks kinda rough but wore a hairpiece and a girdle when he played the character. Bridges, on the other hand, looks like he just crawled out of a homeless shelter. He looks like he smells.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 03, 2011, 11:35:25 PM
It's been awhile since I saw the original True Grit movie, but I don't remember the final race to the doctor by Mattie and Rooster being quite so grim - I'm trying to be circumspect for those who haven't seen the movie, but I'm talking about the thing with the horse carrying them. Can anyone remember?

Yes.  It is grim in the original as well.  My daughter is a horse lover and was none too pleased with this portion of the 1969 version. After the triple-hanging, it was the roughest part of the film for her.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 04, 2011, 08:16:29 AM
Yes.  It is grim in the original as well.  My daughter is a horse lover and was none too pleased with this portion of the 1969 version. After the triple-hanging, it was the roughest part of the film for her.

I'm right there with your daughter. I understand that the character had a good reason for doing it, but it was still tough for me to watch.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 04, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
[Spoiler Alert]

It's in the book, so Portis has to be held accountable rather than the screenwriters of either film, but it's purely for dramatic effect.  No frontiersman would run a horse to death.  Have the horse walk and you'll get there faster than by running yourself.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on January 05, 2011, 02:12:53 PM
I liked The King's Speech very much.

I was pleasantly surprised by how funny it was. I was expecting it to be really dry.

Really enjoyed True Grit. I think it falls in my second tier of Coen films - really good, not great. I actually watched the original for the first time a few months ago and thought it was fun, mostly because of Wayne, but I absolutely hated Mattie. I was hoping she'd die in the snake pit. Hailee Steinfeld was 1000x better in the new one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on January 05, 2011, 07:58:43 PM
I loved just about everything about The King's Speech.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 05, 2011, 08:13:04 PM
I loved just about everything about The King's Speech.


I couldnt get past the trailer it looked to me like a notch above an Merchant Ivory film, it also looked really Oscar baity.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on January 05, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
Yes, but Merchant-Ivory get me high.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 05, 2011, 08:48:56 PM
I may end up seeing The King's Speech, as  I'm sure it will play for a billion weeks at the Landmark theatres here.  The premise would be interesting to me if handled in a non-sentimental way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on January 05, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
What exactly is the deal with Merchant Ivory films? They have this aura of respectability but this isn't the first place I've seen discussing them in a dismissive way. Also, on the Darjeeling Limited Criterion DVD, Wes Anderson was slobbering all over James Ivory. So what's the verdict on these? Are there any worth watching?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 05, 2011, 09:43:51 PM
What exactly is the deal with Merchant Ivory films? They have this aura of respectability but this isn't the first place I've seen discussing them in a dismissive way. Also, on the Darjeeling Limited Criterion DVD, Wes Anderson was slobbering all over James Ivory. So what's the verdict on these? Are there any worth watching?

I've seen A Room with a View and Remains of the Day.  I have nothing bad to say about them, but then again they also did not stick with me for even a few minutes after the credits. 


I couldnt get past the trailer it looked to me like a notch above an Merchant Ivory film, it also looked really Oscar baity.

Those were my thoughts as well before the lights went down.  But I must say, it was extremely satisfying in its humble way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Senator Gothman (D-OR) on January 06, 2011, 12:46:26 AM
What exactly is the deal with Merchant Ivory films? They have this aura of respectability but this isn't the first place I've seen discussing them in a dismissive way. Also, on the Darjeeling Limited Criterion DVD, Wes Anderson was slobbering all over James Ivory. So what's the verdict on these? Are there any worth watching?

YES!!  I go daffy for Howards End, and Remains of the Day is top notch. TOP NOTCH.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 06, 2011, 07:43:14 AM
I have a soft spot for Merchant-Ivory movies, esp. Maurice.  They are sedate and lovely to look at, and the acting is usually very good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 06, 2011, 08:01:02 AM
Remains of the Day is the only Merchant Ivory film I've seen all the way through.  It was certainly good and has stuck with me.  Their reputation, from what I've always gathered, is that they're tastefully made but kinda sedate (as Sarah put it) literary adaptations.  In short, not something that excites a lot of film nerds, especially young male film nerds.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on January 06, 2011, 09:45:53 AM
I love Merchant Ivory films too, and it's probably the sentimentality and so forth that makes film nerds not love them. But there's a general bias against costume dramas and historical pieces too I think.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on January 06, 2011, 01:57:37 PM
Well I'll be checking out some of these Merchant Ivory films. Thanks everyone for responding.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on January 06, 2011, 05:25:04 PM
What exactly is the deal with Merchant Ivory films? They have this aura of respectability but this isn't the first place I've seen discussing them in a dismissive way. Also, on the Darjeeling Limited Criterion DVD, Wes Anderson was slobbering all over James Ivory. So what's the verdict on these? Are there any worth watching?

YES!!  I go daffy for Howards End, and Remains of the Day is top notch. TOP NOTCH.

Remains of the Day is almost certainly in my top ten of all time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on January 06, 2011, 06:14:21 PM
What exactly is the deal with Merchant Ivory films? They have this aura of respectability but this isn't the first place I've seen discussing them in a dismissive way. Also, on the Darjeeling Limited Criterion DVD, Wes Anderson was slobbering all over James Ivory. So what's the verdict on these? Are there any worth watching?

YES!!  I go daffy for Howards End, and Remains of the Day is top notch. TOP NOTCH.

Remains of the Day is almost certainly in my top ten of all time.

I fondly remember lunch times in elementary school with my Remains of the Day lunch box
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 06, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
So you brought leftovers?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: stephen on January 30, 2011, 02:47:24 AM
I'm watching Mega Python vs. Gatoroid on SyFy right now.  It's not very good, but Micky Dolenz has a cameo in it.  He plays himself in the movie and *SPOILER ALERT* Dolenz gets eaten alive by a Mega Python. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2011, 06:49:39 AM
I watched The Kids Are All Right last night.  Did not like it one bit.  Winter's Bone, on the other hand, was aces.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 30, 2011, 10:12:06 AM
I watched The Kids Are All Right last night.  Did not like it one bit.  Winter's Bone, on the other hand, was aces.

I thought it was ok, but what didn't you like about it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JimmyNoodles on January 30, 2011, 10:27:17 AM
I watched The Kids Are All Right last night.  Did not like it one bit.  Winter's Bone, on the other hand, was aces.

I'm watching The Kids are Alright tonight, and Winter's Bone is next in the queue.  I honestly don't know anything about either, I've been avoiding trailers lately.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 30, 2011, 10:30:58 AM
Anybody seen Blue Valentine? I thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 30, 2011, 11:14:39 AM
I watched 'A Prophet' last night. I haven't really watched a prison film for a long time. The focus is on the protagonist's involvement with the Corsican Mob within the prison (and later, outside on one-day leaves) which he's pressured into because he has no friends or at least a protective group inside the prison.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
1. I know the message was, "Gee, this family is just like any other!" but to make that point, the story had to be rather mundane.  Imagine the movie if Nic had been male: there would be absolutely nothing to command anyone's interest.  Yet virtually no changes would have to be made to accommodate the shift in gender.  In ther words, the movie is boring, but because it features lesbians, it's supposed to be important, somehow.  Fiddlesticks, say I.

2.  I understand the writer/director is herself gay, but that didn't stop her from seeming to endorse one of the more annoying stereotypes about lesbians:  that really they all just need a good, hard seeing-to. The male homosexual porn?  Julianne Moore's sudden, uncontrollable lust for the contents of Mark Ruffalo's pants?  (I mean, come on--that "hello" at the first sight of his penis, as though she were welcoming her first meal after a long spell of starvation?)  I was insulted, and I can't imagine many in the lesbian community weren't as well. 

3.  I found it cheap that the beginning of the resolution of the crisis involved Annette Benning's character dismissing Mark Ruffalo's as though he were the root of all evil.  He is erased from the film, and seemingly from the characters' lives.  An easier way of dealing with him but lazy. 

4.  Finally, much of the dialogue was painful, insipid, and psychobabbly.  When I was thinking about the movie a while after watching it, I decided that it should have been a French movie made in the 1980s.  Or maybe 1970s.  Some along the lines of Murmur of the Heart.  If it had been, and I watched it now, I would have had much more patience with it.   

There's a few reasons, anyway.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on January 30, 2011, 11:25:54 AM
I watched The Kids Are All Right last night.  Did not like it one bit.  Winter's Bone, on the other hand, was aces.

I thought it was ok, but what didn't you like about it?

It bugged me as well, but for much less interesting reasons than Sarah's (which were posted as I was writing this). Something about watching these very comfortable LA liberals having self-consciously openminded discussions over locavore cuisine and discussing landscaping and taking scented baths just pushed my buttons. Maybe I'm just jealous of Mark Ruffalo and his chest hair. I'm not saying it's a reasonable or logical response.

Great acting, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
Yes.  Absolutely.  For that reason, too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 30, 2011, 11:34:25 AM
I watched The Kids Are All Right last night.  Did not like it one bit.  Winter's Bone, on the other hand, was aces.

I thought it was ok, but what didn't you like about it?

It bugged me as well, but for much less interesting reasons than Sarah's (which were posted as I was writing this). Something about watching these very comfortable LA liberals having self-consciously openminded discussions over locavore cuisine and discussing landscaping and taking scented baths just pushed my buttons. Maybe I'm just jealous of Mark Ruffalo and his chest hair. I'm not saying it's a reasonable or logical response.

Great acting, though.


Didn't Julianne Moores character call them out on that in one scene though?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 30, 2011, 06:42:56 PM
I saw The Social Network on a plane and liked it.  If it wins Best Picture, that's ok with me - unlike so many winners in the last 15 years (Crash, and the execrable Gladiator, to name two).

Jesse Eisenberg did a great job, although he looked and sounded so much like Michael Cera that the kid should get royalties.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 30, 2011, 06:53:24 PM
Quote
Jesse Eisenberg did a great job, although he looked and sounded so much like Michael Cera that the kid should get royalties.

Oh gawd i thought this movie would kill that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 30, 2011, 07:14:10 PM
Another Year was really great. Leigh is masterful. As are the actors he works with.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fish on January 30, 2011, 08:28:34 PM
Quote
Jesse Eisenberg did a great job, although he looked and sounded so much like Michael Cera that the kid should get royalties.

I didn't see The Social Network, but is this the same guy who was in Zombieland?  If so, seriously.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on January 30, 2011, 08:47:03 PM
Watched the American remake of Let the Right One in last night

I liked it.


anybody else?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 30, 2011, 09:16:55 PM
New-ish films I caught up with this weekend:

Everyone Else is superb.  Easily bests Blue Valentine, a film I basically liked, in just about every department.

Enter the Void is one of the most audaciously-shot pieces of trash I can recall.  I intended to just watch some of it but ended up hanging in until the end.  Two best things going for it: the full opening credits (this is no faint praise) and a car crash sequence that becomes more harrowing as it's repeated throughout the film.  The story and acting are atrocious - you're dead, son, it wouldn't kill you to float over a museum or a nice concert -  but somehow it all adds up to an... experience. 

The Other Guys is indeed the least of the McKay/Farrell movies.  Classic moment: the team of Jackson & Johnson's final scene. Docked two full stars for using a Rage Against the Machine song over closing credits in 2010.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fish on January 30, 2011, 09:23:50 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on January 30, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Michael Cera should be the one getting frequently compared to Jesse Eisenberg.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 30, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 30, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

I'd say hell's yes, fucking assman!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fish on January 30, 2011, 10:28:52 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

I'd say hell's yes, fucking assman!

Alright, I guess I'll netflix instant it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 12:49:36 AM
I'd say no. But I'm in the minority.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 31, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
It's no insult to either of them.  Their acting doesn't remind one of each other.  They just look alike and have similar voices.  It's ok.


I would NOT recommend seeing The Squid and the Whale.  The performances are good, if I remember, but I also remember finding it self-indulgent, although much less so than, say, Requiem for a Dream or a Harmony Korine film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on January 31, 2011, 03:26:15 AM
Watched a few this week:

The Kids Are Alright lived up to the hype. Found parts of the writing and performances fresh, not too forced, and moving.

The American is gorgeous, understated, and full of homage, but plotwise, a complete stinker. Without giving a spoiler, the ending was clear 30 minutes in, and when it came, I was like, really? You're actually going to play it this obviously?

The King's Speech is exactly what you think it will be, and that is meant to be a compliment. Geoffrey Rush usually bugs me, but he is exceptional in this film, as is Colin Firth. Some beautiful tracking shots to look for as well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on January 31, 2011, 04:21:12 AM
Agreed about The American.  It was like they had their budget and spent it all on beautiful atmosphere and amazing scenery and understated lines and forgot to write a movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 31, 2011, 07:33:28 AM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

I loved it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 31, 2011, 09:00:12 AM
I found it entertaining enough and enjoyed loathing the husband (not that I admire anyone else much).

The reason I said I couldn't imagine Michael Cera doing as well as Jesse Eisenberg in that role is that Cera seems to specialize in bumbling bunnies.  I have a vague memory of him playing a creep once and doing it well, but I can't find anything on IMdB, so my brain might be playing tricks on me.  Eisenberg, on the other hand, is always good at playing a certain kind of jerk (the kind who would have glommed on to me in high school because I felt sorry for them).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 31, 2011, 09:06:11 AM
I found it entertaining enough and enjoyed loathing the husband (not that I admire anyone else much).

The reason I said I couldn't imagine Michael Cera doing as well as Jesse Eisenberg in that role is that Cera seems to specialize in bumbling bunnies.  I have a vague memory of him playing a creep once and doing it well, but I can't find anything on IMdB, so my brain might be playing tricks on me.  Eisenberg, on the other hand, is always good at playing a certain kind of jerk (the kind who would have glommed on to me in high school because I felt sorry for them).

Yeh he is a bigtime jerk in Squid and the Whale. All of Baumbach's films revolve around creeps though.
Cera couldn't pull off the role I don't think. I think he could only play a passive aggressive jerk, not the kind of guy that tells his girlfriend that he wished she didn't have so many freckles.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 31, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
I liked...well, admired TSATW, my gf hated every moment of it down to the Gaffer credit.  You have to have a high tolerance for feel-bad family dysfunction comedy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on January 31, 2011, 12:53:16 PM
Just responding to a couple of old posts
2.  I understand the writer/director is herself gay, but that didn't stop her from seeming to endorse one of the more annoying stereotypes about lesbians:  that they really they all just need a good, hard seeing-to. The male homosexual porn?  Julianne Moore's sudden, uncontrollable lust for the contents of Mark Ruffalo's pants?  (I mean, come on--that "hello" at the first sight of his penis, as though she were welcoming her first meal after a long spell of starvation?)  I was insulted, and I can't imagine many in the lesbian community weren't as well.
Yeah, that part of the trailer is why I never saw it. Sad to have my suspicions confirmed.
Anybody seen Blue Valentine? I thought it was pretty good.
Yes and yes! I thought it was pretty devastating. I've always been mad at Closer because of all the hype around it being such an authentic portrayal of relationships, but I thought Blue Valentine actually came pretty close to that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on January 31, 2011, 04:19:28 PM
. . . they really they . . .

Damn.  This is why I don't work anymore.  I must have reread that message five times before clicking "post."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on January 31, 2011, 08:15:41 PM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 31, 2011, 08:16:49 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

2yes
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on January 31, 2011, 08:18:02 PM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

2yes

I mean 5yes
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fish on February 01, 2011, 12:09:05 AM
It's true they resemble one another, but I can't see Michael Cera carrying off Jesse Eisenberg's role in The Squid and the Whale.

Was that movie worth seeing?

I'd say yes.

2yes

I mean 5yes

Y35...?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on February 01, 2011, 05:12:58 AM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 01, 2011, 06:05:17 AM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.

In my world, you wouldn't expect to find Jonah Hill in any movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on February 01, 2011, 07:11:06 AM
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Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 01, 2011, 08:26:37 AM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.

In my world, you wouldn't expect to find Jonah Hill in any movie.

Really, Dave? No Jonah Hill for you? Have you see Superbad? To me- one of the funniest movies, ever. I can watch it over and over. Both Michael Cera and Jonah Hill were great in it. Their playing off each other is the heart of the movie and hilarious.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 01, 2011, 08:50:34 AM
Just watched Le Corbeau.

That's some good stuff; so nasty and psychologically brutal. Makes me wish American movies of the same time period didn't feel so antiseptic most of the time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 01, 2011, 09:15:56 AM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.

In my world, you wouldn't expect to find Jonah Hill in any movie.

I can admit he was miscast.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 01, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.

In my world, you wouldn't expect to find Jonah Hill in any movie.

Really, Dave? No Jonah Hill for you? Have you see Superbad? To me- one of the funniest movies, ever. I can watch it over and over. Both Michael Cera and Jonah Hill were great in it. Their playing off each other is the heart of the movie and hilarious.

Seen it. Won't see it again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 01, 2011, 11:30:07 AM
Just watched Le Corbeau.

That's some good stuff; so nasty and psychologically brutal. Makes me wish American movies of the same time period didn't feel so antiseptic most of the time.

Sounds perfect for today.  And since it was made in 1943, I'll probably even be able to follow the French easily.  A bonus.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on February 01, 2011, 05:29:11 PM
I think Clouzot made better movies than the new wavers
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on February 01, 2011, 06:01:31 PM
Just watched Le Corbeau.

That's some good stuff; so nasty and psychologically brutal. Makes me wish American movies of the same time period didn't feel so antiseptic most of the time.

There's noir stuff from around that era that's pretty damn septic!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 01, 2011, 08:19:33 PM
Just watched Le Corbeau.

That's some good stuff; so nasty and psychologically brutal. Makes me wish American movies of the same time period didn't feel so antiseptic most of the time.

There's noir stuff from around that era that's pretty damn septic!

Yes.  Crack a Humphrey Bogart catalog much?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on February 01, 2011, 09:12:35 PM
From the films w/o a DVD thread, Frank Perry's Last Summer is on TCM late tonight

http://ebiri.blogspot.com/2011/01/see-this-movie-last-summer-will-air-on.html (http://ebiri.blogspot.com/2011/01/see-this-movie-last-summer-will-air-on.html)

(the DVR description spoils the ending)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 02, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
Just watched Le Corbeau.

That's some good stuff; so nasty and psychologically brutal. Makes me wish American movies of the same time period didn't feel so antiseptic most of the time.

There's noir stuff from around that era that's pretty damn septic!



Yes.  Crack a Humphrey Bogart catalog much?

Oh I have. I guess I just feel like there was more of a frankness where the American movies playfully danced the same topics.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 02, 2011, 03:16:46 PM
French movies of the time were realer.  American movies were more stylized, I think because the censors wouldn't allow bluntness.  I mean, all the abortion talk in Le Corbeau (which I watched this morning--good stuff) would never have flown over here.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Greggulator on February 02, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
A movie I really liked from last year was Cyrus. There wasn't really much to it, but it was surprisingly entertaining. I think the fact that I nearly had the theater to myself boosted my opinion a little.
I was really pleasantly surprised by Cyrus too, which is not at all the movie it was sold as, or a movie you would expect to find Jonah Hill in.

The Squid and the Whale is one of my favourites, no lie.

In my world, you wouldn't expect to find Jonah Hill in any movie.

Really, Dave? No Jonah Hill for you? Have you see Superbad? To me- one of the funniest movies, ever. I can watch it over and over. Both Michael Cera and Jonah Hill were great in it. Their playing off each other is the heart of the movie and hilarious.

I'm so glad that someone else feels the same about Superbad. I've seen it about 10 times by now. The second time my wife and I watched it, she said that she thought it was the funniest movie of all-time. I never thought I'd say anything other than Spinal Tap but after a few seconds mulling it over I agreed with her.

That movie gets better with age -- no jokes revolve around current pop culture stuff unlike the other Apatow gang things (even though 40-Year-Old Virgin is pretty fantastic but I think Knocked Up kinda blows after a second viewing).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 02, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
I don't know if I approve of your being married, young man.  Won't a wife distract you from your duties if you become Tom's protégé?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 02, 2011, 04:00:06 PM
I'm a big fan of Le corbeau and Clouzot in general. If you like Clouzot you should all check out L'Enfer d'Henri-Georges Clouzot, the documentary about Clouzot's damned movie project L'Enfer from 1964 starring Romy Schneider. The documentary recounts the story of the obsessive director who lost all control - interesting interviews etc - but the real coup is all the supposedly lost footage that's been found by the filmmakers. Sublime stuff.

I wrote about the documentary on my Swedish blog, but you should click this link anyway just to check out the screenshots:

http://degrell.blogspot.com/2011/01/filmaret-2011-2-lenfer-dhenri-georges.html (http://degrell.blogspot.com/2011/01/filmaret-2011-2-lenfer-dhenri-georges.html)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 02, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
I'm a big fan of Le corbeau and Clouzot in general. If you like Clouzot you should all check out L'Enfer d'Henri-Georges Clouzot, the documentary about Clouzot's damned movie project L'Enfer from 1964 starring Romy Schneider. The documentary recounts the story of the obsessive director who lost all control - interesting interviews etc - but the real coup is all the supposedly lost footage that's been found by the filmmakers. Sublime stuff.

I wrote about the documentary on my Swedish blog, but you should click this link anyway just to check out the screenshots:

http://degrell.blogspot.com/2011/01/filmaret-2011-2-lenfer-dhenri-georges.html (http://degrell.blogspot.com/2011/01/filmaret-2011-2-lenfer-dhenri-georges.html)

Thanks, Martin! Makes me wish I understood Swedish. Those screenshots are extremely intriguing. I actually read about that documentary in Film Comment but I wanted to get some Clouzot movies under my belt before I watched a documentary about the guy.

Up next: The Wages of Fear.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 02, 2011, 04:46:08 PM
I think I've seen all the Inspector Clouzot movies except for the Steve Martin remake.  Even the horrible ones where they dredged up his corpse and put him alongside that talentless "new kid."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 02, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
The Wages of Fear is great.  Diabolique is pretty damn good, too.

Sidenote:  Being reminded of the existence of Romy Schneider made me think of Le Vieux Fusil, one of the great vengeance movies, and the one that introduced me to Philippe Noiret.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 02, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
The Wages of Fear is great.  Diabolique is pretty damn good, too.

They are both superb, in my opinion. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on February 02, 2011, 07:22:35 PM
Wages Of Fear is great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 02, 2011, 11:15:17 PM
OK, wait.  I was in Greg's corner, but I have to reconsider whether to support someone who thinks "funniest movie of all time" is a tossup between Superbad and Spinal Tap.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 03, 2011, 01:27:52 AM
Quote
Wages Of Fear is great.

Agreed, but if Sorcerer was put up against it, I think they'd go toe-to-toe.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 03, 2011, 06:39:18 AM
Sorceror is good but certainly no better (it's been so long since I've seen either, I can't remember whether I thought it as good), and Wages came first, so it wins. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 03, 2011, 07:02:18 AM
OK, wait.  I was in Greg's corner, but I have to reconsider whether to support someone who thinks "funniest movie of all time" is a tossup between Superbad and Spinal Tap.

He needs to take advice from Spike; he's blowing his "mystique".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 03, 2011, 10:14:34 AM
OK, wait.  I was in Greg's corner, but I have to reconsider whether to support someone who thinks "funniest movie of all time" is a tossup between Superbad and Spinal Tap.

Spinal Tap is great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 03, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
OK, wait.  I was in Greg's corner, but I have to reconsider whether to support someone who thinks "funniest movie of all time" is a tossup between Superbad and Spinal Tap.

Spinal Tap is great.

It's good. but contender for FMOAT--don't think so.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 03, 2011, 11:07:32 AM
OK, wait.  I was in Greg's corner, but I have to reconsider whether to support someone who thinks "funniest movie of all time" is a tossup between Superbad and Spinal Tap.

Spinal Tap is great.

It's good. but contender for FMOAT--don't think so.


True. It's almost as good as Porky's. (an actual qoute from an actual person I actually know.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 03, 2011, 11:24:40 AM
Spinal Tap is in my top 5 funniest movies of all time, but I also like metal more than most FOTs, which I think probably helps.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Greggulator on February 03, 2011, 11:53:51 AM
For real -- what am I missing w/ Spinal Tap? Educate me FOTs on funnier movies! You guys are way bigger film nerds than me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 03, 2011, 11:57:41 AM
I don't mind Spinal Tap. I do mind the Spinal Tap hysteria.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 03, 2011, 12:18:33 PM
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Sorceror is good but certainly no better (it's been so long since I've seen either, I can't remember whether I thought it as good), and Wages came first, so it wins.

Agreed 99% of the time (Diabolique falling in that category in a big way), but Sorceror is SO good. The Tangerine Dream soundtrack, the insane bridge scene (and the "making of" story behind it), and the weird dawn colors when Schieder finally collapses. Perfect, through and through!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 03, 2011, 01:02:26 PM
I just looked up Sorcerer and noted that it's both a remake of a Clouzot movie and made by William Friedkin starring Roy Scheider. Done and done and done.

Sorcerer, meet my Netflix queue.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 03, 2011, 01:16:43 PM
I see I need to watch them both again.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 03, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
I don't mind Spinal Tap. I do mind the Spinal Tap hysteria.

Is there really a lot of hysteria about a 30-year old movie?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 03, 2011, 01:26:26 PM
I don't mind Spinal Tap. I do mind the Spinal Tap hysteria.

Is there really a lot of hysteria about a 30-year old movie?

There is. Just today I was reading about Spinal Tap on the interwebz.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: daveB from Oakland on February 03, 2011, 01:37:19 PM
I don't mind Spinal Tap. I do mind the Spinal Tap hysteria.

Is there really a lot of hysteria about a 30-year old movie?

Tom's talked about it on the show before, basically saying "okay, let's give it a rest, let's move on ..."

I'm a huge fan of the movie. But I can somewhat understand where Tom is coming from. It's not too hard to run across tool-ish nerds who like to parrot "these go to 11" and other lines that have been run into the ground.

But if you check out some of the bonus material/deleted scenes on the various versions of "Spinal Tap" DVDs ... there's just a TON of great & hilarious material that didn't even make it into the movie.

What's interesting to me is that Messr's Shearer, Guest, and McKean don't really seem to have any affection at all for metal. Yet the movie seems to be pretty well embraced by metalheads. So I figure they must have been doing something right.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 03, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
The Bruno Kirby outtakes rule.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 03, 2011, 02:43:56 PM
For what it's worth, I really like Sorcerer too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 03, 2011, 03:14:30 PM
I don't mind Spinal Tap. I do mind the Spinal Tap hysteria.

Is there really a lot of hysteria about a 30-year old movie?

Tom's talked about it on the show before, basically saying "okay, let's give it a rest, let's move on ..."

I'm a huge fan of the movie. But I can somewhat understand where Tom is coming from. It's not too hard to run across tool-ish nerds who like to parrot "these go to 11"  and other lines that have been run into the ground.

But if you check out some of the bonus material/deleted scenes on the various versions of "Spinal Tap" DVDs ... there's just a TON of great & hilarious material that didn't even make it into the movie.

What's interesting to me is that Messr's Shearer, Guest, and McKean don't really seem to have any affection at all for metal. Yet the movie seems to be pretty well embraced by metalheads. So I figure they must have been doing something right.

I play guitar and guitarists are by far the worst offenders for running Spinal Tap qoutes into the ground. The "but this one goes to 11" thing is the most common. We guitarist think it's so darned funny that there are amps from a few differnt manufacturers that have knobs that go to 11. For reals.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on February 03, 2011, 06:49:12 PM
La prisonnière is an extension of L'enfer.  It has a similar story and similarly fascinating photography of modern kinetic art.

I wish Clouzot had made more films in the 60s.  His final two projects were significantly different from the rest of his work.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 05, 2011, 09:40:51 PM
Just watched The Fighter. I thought it was great. Definitely a contender.

Now on to Dogtooth...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on February 06, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
Dogtooth is great. I had heard it compared to Haneke and Von Trier, so I was a bit apprehensive that it would amount to a beat-you-over-the-head moral lesson. In the end I didn't find that to be the case -- although the ideas about the nature of family are spelled out pretty clearly it felt more open-ended and less caustic than their works.

I'm sure glad I didn't bring my girlfriend though. The cat scene would have done her in.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 06, 2011, 12:34:56 PM

I'm sure glad I didn't bring my girlfriend though. The cat scene would have done her in.

Bingo, that's why I ain't goin.'
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 06, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
Dogtooth is great. I had heard it compared to Haneke and Von Trier, so I was a bit apprehensive that it would amount to a beat-you-over-the-head moral lesson. In the end I didn't find that to be the case -- although the ideas about the nature of family are spelled out pretty clearly it felt more open-ended and less caustic than their works.

I'm sure glad I didn't bring my girlfriend though. The cat scene would have done her in.

I see the Haneke comparison. Cache and Funny Games in particular. I thought it was great too. I loved how the movies influenced the eldest's actions. Very funny.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on February 06, 2011, 06:53:09 PM
Watching The Basketball Diaries for the first time since seeing it in the theater. A lot of it is a lot sillier/cornier than I'd remembered.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 06, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
Is anyone here a fan of Abbas Kiarostami? I really enjoyed Where Is the Friend's Home? and Taste of Cherry.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 06, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
Chris L is a real Kiarostami fanboy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 06, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
Is anyone here a fan of Abbas Kiarostami? I really enjoyed Where Is the Friend's Home? and Taste of Cherry.

Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us are masterful. Talk about the beauty of pacing. Haven't seen anything else by him.

Any fans of Ramin Bahrani? He's one of the best filmmakers out there right now. Chop Shop, Man Push Cart, Goodbye Solo.

Here is a short he did, featuring narration by Werner Herzog: http://www.futurestates.tv/episodes/plastic-bag (http://www.futurestates.tv/episodes/plastic-bag)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 06, 2011, 09:31:17 PM

I'm sure glad I didn't bring my girlfriend though. The cat scene would have done her in.

Bingo, that's why I ain't goin.'

I haven't heard anything about this movie, but that sentence alone is enough for me to avoid it at all costs.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 06, 2011, 09:37:14 PM
I read about "the cat scene" on Wikipedia, and I hate myself for thinking, "Oh, that's not too bad."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 06, 2011, 11:14:09 PM
Is anyone here a fan of Abbas Kiarostami? I really enjoyed Where Is the Friend's Home? and Taste of Cherry.

Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us are masterful. Talk about the beauty of pacing. Haven't seen anything else by him.

Any fans of Ramin Bahrani? He's one of the best filmmakers out there right now. Chop Shop, Man Push Cart, Goodbye Solo.

Here is a short he did, featuring narration by Werner Herzog: http://www.futurestates.tv/episodes/plastic-bag (http://www.futurestates.tv/episodes/plastic-bag)

I liked Chop Shop and Goodbye Solo, was not aware they were from the same director. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on February 07, 2011, 11:08:21 AM
Saw "Blue Valentine" this weekend.  Can't say enough good things about it.  Amazing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 07, 2011, 12:35:18 PM
Any fans of Ramin Bahrani? He's one of the best filmmakers out there right now. Chop Shop, Man Push Cart, Goodbye Solo.

I agree. I really like all 3, wish MPC being my favorite.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 07, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
Any fans of Ramin Bahrani? He's one of the best filmmakers out there right now. Chop Shop, Man Push Cart, Goodbye Solo.

I agree. I really like all 3, wish MPC being my favorite.

Good to hear. Goodbye Solo is my favorite. All the stories are moving but I'd say that one is the most original and heartbreaking.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 08, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
Any fans of Ramin Bahrani? He's one of the best filmmakers out there right now. Chop Shop, Man Push Cart, Goodbye Solo.

I agree. I really like all 3, wish MPC being my favorite.

Good to hear. Goodbye Solo is my favorite. All the stories are moving but I'd say that one is the most original and heartbreaking.


He keeps getting better with each film. I was disappointed when Goodbye Solo didn't get more attention at that years end. I hear his next film is going to be a period piece.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 09, 2011, 07:48:17 PM
Just watched Open Five. Kentucker Audley makes good movies. Of course they all revolve around the hipster scene, but they capture a really raw aspect of relationships that can be compared to Cassavetes. Oh no he didn't!
I really like them. I think all of the directors considered 'mumblecore' have each made at least one great film that gets rid of the label. Andrew Bujalski is really great too. And when Joe Swanberg isn't just trying to film his own penis, he can make a good film also.

OPEN FIVE (2010) Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cybtQ0vmUxo#ws)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 10, 2011, 10:43:54 AM
I watched and liked 'I think We're Alone Now', which if memory serves was a Mike Film Club recommendation.

Just the fact that Tiffany still tours and goes to Adult Film Star conventions and such was a big surprise to me. The stalker guy and girl were fascinating individuals.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 10, 2011, 01:16:39 PM
"I Think We're Alone Now" wasn't nearly as rough as I thought it was going to be. Though, the more I think about it, the more depressing it seems
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 10, 2011, 01:51:59 PM
I still have it on my mental to-do list to look up that 'Radionics' business Jeffrey was into.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on February 10, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Just watched Valley Girl for the first time since it originally came on HBO when I was about 12 years old. The only reason I watched it back then was because I heard it had partial nudity. Watching it now, it's like it's taking place on a different planet (the dialogue and the notion that Nic Cage's character is somehow punk rock,  and the music he likes, etc). Some of the dance moves happening at the party when he gets beat up are also mind-boggling.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on February 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Shane Black might write/direct Iron Man 3? OMG. (http://bit.ly/eTPy74)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 11, 2011, 11:11:52 AM
Shane Black might write/direct Iron Man 3? OMG. (http://bit.ly/eTPy74)

I really love his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on February 11, 2011, 11:14:50 AM
Shane Black might write/direct Iron Man 3? OMG. (http://bit.ly/eTPy74)

I really love his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Yeah, that movie is really great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on February 12, 2011, 11:41:46 AM
Shane Black might write/direct Iron Man 3? OMG. (http://bit.ly/eTPy74)

I really love his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Yeah, that movie is really great.

Val Kilmer has so many great lines in it. He owned that role.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 12, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
I saw 'Enter The Void' last night. I watched it in the dark when I was so tired I was half-asleep, and that is probably the best way to watch it. Very strange and creepy and full of sadness, but the flashing lights and trippy parts and music were interesting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 12, 2011, 06:45:08 PM
Saw Biutiful today and thought it was fantastic. It had elements to it that were not common of that director. I was expecting Iñárritu's "All these people have something in common" style, which he is still hanging on to. But it was a good story and pretty freakin powerful, which isn't rare in his films. And Javier Bardem shines as usual. Anyone else see it? There is much to discuss about this one.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 13, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Anybody check out HBO's Sunset Limited yet? Good stuff
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 13, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
Slogged through a couple this weekend while the family was in various stages of getting over coughs & colds.

Due Date: really wanted to like this, but it left me kinda flat. That said, there was one little scene that absolutely killed me. I laughed so hard I woke up jr. from his nap.

Still Bill: really, really wanted to love this. I ordered it through the website directly this past August, and only received it a few weeks ago, so there was definitely some building expectations. Tons of classic footage and modern-day interviews that just make me love the guy even more...but...doesn't really stand alone as a great doc. In short, amazing subject, so-so film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 13, 2011, 02:53:03 PM
Just watched Sylvain Chomet's The Illusionist, and I'm pretty sure it's some kind of masterpiece.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 13, 2011, 10:50:48 PM
I saw The King's Speech today and really loved it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on February 14, 2011, 06:47:19 AM
I saw The King's Speech today and really loved it.

I saw it earlier this week and agree - also tons of "oh my god, it's ______" moments - like every British actor who isn't doing Harry Potter is in this thing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 14, 2011, 08:22:24 AM
I saw The King's Speech today and really loved it.

I saw it earlier this week and agree - also tons of "oh my god, it's ______" moments - like every British actor who isn't doing Harry Potter is in this thing.

As well as some who are! It was strange when I recognized the guy who played Churchill from his role in the Harry Potter movies.

And how great was Derek Jacobi?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on February 14, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
I saw The King's Speech today and really loved it.

I saw it earlier this week and agree - also tons of "oh my god, it's ______" moments - like every British actor who isn't doing Harry Potter is in this thing.

As well as some who are! It was strange when I recognized the guy who played Churchill from his role in the Harry Potter movies.

And how great was Derek Jacobi?

I was wondering...Do you think the choice of Derek Jacobi was an intentional nod to Jacobi's portrayal of Claudius the stutterer?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 14, 2011, 05:35:41 PM
Due Date: really wanted to like this, but it left me kinda flat. That said, there was one little scene that absolutely killed me. I laughed so hard I woke up jr. from his nap.

Which one?  I had no such experience.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 15, 2011, 02:22:26 AM
The bit after Jaime Foxx picks them up and the Robert Downey character is just so done, so he instructs his buddy to veer off the highway into the drainage ditch and poor Evan Trembley takes that bounce in the flatbed. Dumbest thing ever, but totally cracked me up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 15, 2011, 05:49:55 AM
Due Date: really wanted to like this, but it left me kinda flat. That said, there was one little scene that absolutely killed me. I laughed so hard I woke up jr. from his nap.

Which one?  I had no such experience.

For me it was the restroom scene. "I'm sorry guys I gotta take this. It's my wife. She wants a divorce."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 15, 2011, 08:00:32 AM
That made me smile, PdP.  The truck scene, however, made me cringe, hardweek:  all I could do was think about was how dangerous that would be in real life, esp to the poor dog.

Mainly, I think I was unwowed by this movie because it reminded me of so many others, all of which include a conceit that doesn't appeal to me: so-called normal person is forced to spend time with weirdo and learns something about himself (it's always a guy, isn't it?)--and how to like the weirdo--in the process.  The thing is, the weirdos in question are usually so unpleasant and out of control that their modest charms are not enough to make me find them tolerable, so the movies can never entirely work for me. 

I guess I need a weirdo to make me loosen up, eh?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on February 15, 2011, 08:21:44 AM
I just caught up with Animal Kingdom, which was excellent. The theme -- criminal underworld as a savage, tribal, Darwinian battle -- is spelled out right in the opening shot and title (not to mention the final words spoken), but that idea turns out to have major legs. I've never seen a crime movie quite like it before.

My only quibble is with the protagonist kid, who's made out to be a bit too much of a mute lunkhead. When he finally takes action you never get a sense of whether he's thinking things through or just going on instinct.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 15, 2011, 08:51:26 AM
I just caught up with Animal Kingdom, which was excellent. The theme -- criminal underworld as a savage, tribal, Darwinian battle -- is spelled out right in the opening shot and title (not to mention the final words spoken), but that idea turns out to have major legs. I've never seen a crime movie quite like it before.

My only quibble is with the protagonist kid, who's made out to be a bit too much of a mute lunkhead. When he finally takes action you never get a sense of whether he's thinking things through or just going on instinct.

I agree with everything you said about that movie. I'm still thinking about it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on February 15, 2011, 09:02:35 AM
Shane Black might write/direct Iron Man 3? OMG. (http://bit.ly/eTPy74)

I really love his Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Yeah, that movie is really great.
I liked that movie a bit, and wanted to like it a lot, but it really bothers me that the hero is never called on his casual homophobia. Sure, there's lots of implicit stuff about subverting hollywood action 'types etc., but I don't think an explicit "fuck bigotry" would have been amiss. Not when you know a large section of the audience are gonna be "people" who think homosexuality is hilarious/objectionable.

I'm sure he can do a fine Iron Man movie - hopefully one where Iron Man doesn't piss his pants/scratch records/(s)mug to camera like the dickens.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 15, 2011, 05:09:49 PM
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That made me smile, PdP.  The truck scene, however, made me cringe, hardweek:  all I could do was think about was how dangerous that would be in real life, esp to the poor dog.

Mainly, I think I was unwowed by this movie because it reminded me of so many others, all of which include a conceit that doesn't appeal to me: so-called normal person is forced to spend time with weirdo and learns something about himself (it's always a guy, isn't it?)--and how to like the weirdo--in the process.  The thing is, the weirdos in question are usually so unpleasant and out of control that their modest charms are not enough to make me find them tolerable, so the movies can never entirely work for me. 

I guess I need a weirdo to make me loosen up, eh?

Not at all (loosening up, or a weirdo). The laugh I got out of that was pure projection/empathy, having been on the receiving end a few times as a teenager.

And I can understand being upset by the dog. No matter how many times I saw that "no animals were harmed in the filming of this episode" deer hunting episode of Silver Spoons as a kid, some things are just too much for me (Amores Perros comes to mind).

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 15, 2011, 06:24:28 PM
I have not been yet able to watch Amores Perros.

Just finished watching The King's Speech.  Don't really understand what all the fuss is about.  It was perfectly all right, but no more so than a respectable outing of Masterpiece Theatre.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 15, 2011, 06:40:13 PM
Yes. To me it played out like a perfectly adequate TV drama.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 15, 2011, 07:37:11 PM
Not even among the best  And there was so much fiddling with history, it was distracting.

I did like that Edward was played by an Australian.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 16, 2011, 12:38:05 AM
Not even among the best  And there was so much fiddling with history, it was distracting.

I did like that Edward was played by an Australian.

Did you watch the Sherlock Holmes this winter?  I loved the reboot, Martin Freeman and the Coupling style wit.  Why the hell not?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 16, 2011, 07:01:58 AM
Yes, I enjoyed that a lot.  I like Steven Moffat:  Coupling was often funny, Jekyll was a kick, and his Whos are among my favorites. 

Did you see the single episode of Dirk Gently?  Though it strayed from the original more than many purists could stomach, I thought it was good, clean fun. 

See?  I can like stuff.  I just haven't been bowled over by the movies I've seen lately.  Of the last four, only Le Corbeau measured up. 

Oh, wait, that should be five.  I forgot I also watched Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!  It was a fine example of the type of movie it wanted to be.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 16, 2011, 02:45:42 PM
Yes, I enjoyed that a lot.  I like Steven Moffat:  Coupling was often funny, Jekyll was a kick, and his Whos are among my favorites. 

Did you see the single episode of Dirk Gently?  Though it strayed from the original more than many purists could stomach, I thought it was good, clean fun. 

See?  I can like stuff.  I just haven't been bowled over by the movies I've seen lately.  Of the last four, only Le Corbeau measured up. 

Oh, wait, that should be five.  I forgot I also watched Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!  It was a fine example of the type of movie it wanted to be.

I didn't see Dirk Gently.  BBCAmerica never shows anything.

I'm looking forward to the next Sherlock Holmes when they come out in 2017.  Thanks, BBC.  You don't have to do 22 episodes a year, but could you at least do SOMETHING?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 16, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
Graham Norton is to BBC America what Hitler is to the History Channel.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 16, 2011, 03:39:19 PM
or Fran Drescher is to TVLand

or Spongebob is to Nickelodeon

or Hawkeye Pierce is to the Hallmark Channel

or etc
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 16, 2011, 10:48:02 PM
Man One Too Many Mornings was really good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 17, 2011, 01:35:44 PM
To update my previous postings regarding Clouzot: I watched Wages of Fear last night. Fantastic movie, obviously. Two quibbles: the opening chapter in the village goes on too long. It sets up the characters and their dire situation nicely and then just continues to hang out there. Second, the ending is so pat and a tad ridiculous in execution.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 17, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
Yes, the only thing I didn't like about Wages of Fear is actually the ending. Call me crazy, but I found it a bit cheap and on the nose.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 17, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
I don't remember what it was.  Doesn't everyone get blowed up real good one way or the other?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 17, 2011, 05:55:58 PM
I don't remember what it was.  Doesn't everyone get blowed up real good one way or the other?

Mario successfully gets the truck to the derrick just as Jo dies. He is greeted as a hero. The next day a freshly shaved and showered Mario decides to drive one of the gigantic trucks back to the village. The village hears news of his safety and imminent arrival and immediately starts dancing. Mario, on his way home, starts swaying back and forth on the road with a smile on his face. The movie cuts back and forth between these scenes. And then suddenly, there's a turn on the road and Mario goes over and dies. The end.

I suppose you can say that Mario purposefully killed himself however the smile on his face is one of neutral contentment and not some maniacal grin.

The irony is just too expected and the execution is pretty terrible.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 17, 2011, 07:06:44 PM
So I remembered correctly.

And, yes, that ending is dumb.  Too twisty, like the conclusion of an episode of one of those heavy-handed horror anthologies on TV where nothing is ever allowed to end happily.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 17, 2011, 09:46:05 PM
Today, I watched The King of Kong, Leprechaun: In the Hood, and The Toxic Avenger. And now I just feel down-in-the-dumps.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 17, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
I remember someone praising EASY A earlier in this thread (Martin, maybe?), and I want to echo that sentiment. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Emma Stone was a delight, as were Stanley Tucci and Patricia Clarkson as her parents.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on February 18, 2011, 12:57:37 AM
Any thoughts on Samuel Fuller?  Shock Corridor had a promising plot summary, but it was ultimately disappointing.  There were too many contrivances to forgive, and the random bursts of extended shrieking were just annoying.   I like the idea of using an asylum to do social commentary, but the bad writing, overblown acting, and tepid "mystery" left little in the film to enjoy.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on February 18, 2011, 01:15:15 AM
Any thoughts on Samuel Fuller?  Shock Corridor had a promising plot summary, but it was ultimately disappointing.  There were too many contrivances to forgive, and the random bursts of extended shrieking were just annoying.   I like the idea of using an asylum to do social commentary, but the bad writing, overblown acting, and tepid "mystery" left little in the film to enjoy.

Haven't seen Shock Corridor, but I was similarly let down by The Naked Kiss, aside from the dynamite opening and a couple other moments. Pickup on South Street is killer though, and has WIDMARK.  "Are you wavin' the flag at ME?"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on February 18, 2011, 04:50:43 AM
I remember someone praising EASY A earlier in this thread (Martin, maybe?), and I want to echo that sentiment. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Emma Stone was a delight, as were Stanley Tucci and Patricia Clarkson as her parents.
I didn't like how she told the kid to pretend to be straight, and the movie seemed okay with it? Also how it never committed to the meta thing. And I like Tucci and Clarkson just fine, but found their characters to be execrable.

JAMES W: POOPIN' PARTIES AND OBJECTING TO PERCEIVED HOMOPHOBIA IN MOVIES SINCE 1912
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 18, 2011, 10:36:08 AM
Any thoughts on Samuel Fuller?  Shock Corridor had a promising plot summary, but it was ultimately disappointing.  There were too many contrivances to forgive, and the random bursts of extended shrieking were just annoying.   I like the idea of using an asylum to do social commentary, but the bad writing, overblown acting, and tepid "mystery" left little in the film to enjoy.

The Big Red One is fantastic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 18, 2011, 10:43:19 AM
I remember someone praising EASY A earlier in this thread (Martin, maybe?), and I want to echo that sentiment. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Emma Stone was a delight, as were Stanley Tucci and Patricia Clarkson as her parents.

Yes, that was me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 18, 2011, 10:51:31 AM
Sam Fuller is kind of frustrating - obviously a super driven guy, almost to the point of crazy, a real character, he churned out his movies whether he had money to work with or had a shoe-string budget, and the New Wavers loved him to death. But: he's made far less masterpieces than the Criterion collection/generation will have you believe, in my opinion.

I agree that Shock Corridor and The Naked Kiss are so-so (Kiss is better than Corridor). I'm not that familiar with earliest stuff (cinephiles go nuts over The Steel Helmet, Park Row and I Shot Jesse James), but for me the Essential Fullers are: Pickup on South Street, House of Bamboo, The Big Red One, White Dog, Forty Guns. One noir, one post-war noir, one WWII action, one contemporary thriller, one Western. Nice spread.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on February 18, 2011, 11:19:48 AM
I always enjoy his cameo in Pierrot le Fou
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on February 18, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll have to give him another chance.

I had a cool reaction to Kiss Me Deadly as well ... again the writing was lazier than I'd like.  It begins like a great noir but quickly loses that guise.  If the main character isn't falling ass backwards into favorable situations, he's beating information out of any sap in his path.  Although, I guess the ridiculousness became entertaining after a point.

On a more positive note, I recommend The Innocents (obvious) and Mademoiselle (less obvious).  Both are engaging stories in stunning WIDEscreen B&W, which aides the exploration of darker themes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 18, 2011, 09:17:27 PM
I watched Cropsey tonight and liked it. I found it genuinely frightening. The same feelings as Paradise Lost except I had no sympathy for Rand. I wonder what Spike would think about this. He' probably just roll his eyes and say something about how Staten Island should be bombed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 18, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll have to give him another chance.

I had a cool reaction to Kiss Me Deadly as well ... again the writing was lazier than I'd like.  It begins like a great noir but quickly loses that guise.  If the main character isn't falling ass backwards into favorable situations, he's beating information out of any sap in his path.  Although, I guess the ridiculousness became entertaining after a point.

The director has said that he was making fun of Mickey Spillane's writing in the movie, so maybe that's the ridiculousness you're detecting.

Speaking of ridiculous, I thought The Mechanic was kind of awesome.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on February 19, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
Yeah, if you come to Kiss Me Deadly expecting a classic noir, you'll wonder what the hell Aldrich was thinking. Along with Touch of Evil  (obviously a better film) it represents the point where noir conventions are well enough established that they can be turned inside out, pastiched and burlesqued.  It's more a Cold War fever dream than it is a hard-boiled detective tale.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 19, 2011, 09:27:03 PM
Down Terrace is on netflix streaming now so there's no excuse not to see this awesome little movie.  Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on February 19, 2011, 10:11:29 PM
I can't do this, I have to watch the first six episodes of Deadwood by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 20, 2011, 12:27:06 AM
Down Terrace is on netflix streaming now so there's no excuse not to see this awesome little movie.  Let me know what you think.


Isn't that the one where Sam Jackson is a prejudice against interracial couples.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 20, 2011, 12:35:59 AM
Down Terrace is on netflix streaming now so there's no excuse not to see this awesome little movie.  Let me know what you think.


Isn't that the one where Sam Jackson is a prejudice against interracial couples.

You're thinking of Hate View Terrace.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 20, 2011, 02:14:26 AM
Anybody seen Joris Ivens  A Tale of the Wind? I just discovered it was on Youtube in sections. Ive watched out of print films on Youtube before and its a chore.


I really liked the opening and the score was great im just wondering if i should pull the trigger.


Une histoire de vent (1988) 1/8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxu6o0Nnjhg
#)

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on February 20, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
Knocked off a couple more Oscar contenders over the weekend:

Found Winter's Bone a little below my expectations, but I had pretty high hopes going in.

On the other hand, The Fighter completely exceeded expectations. Big thumbs up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 21, 2011, 04:17:32 PM
I needed to get out of the house and spend some time alone so I went to the movies. I'm on line and on an impulse I surprised myself by buying a ticket to- get this- The Green Hornet. In 3D no less. Maybe I was feeling a little self-destructive. I gotta say, it didn't disappoint. That's only because my expectations were so low. What a piece of crap? What were they thinking? Seth Rogen, as the hero was about as unlikable as possible. It's hard to enjoy a story when the guy you're supposed to be rooting fro is a total douchebag. Also, Kato was basically superman and would be much better off without him. 

So I leave this reeking pile of a movie but don't feel like going home. Looky here! The fighter is playing in the next theater and I've only missed 10 minutes- so I slink in and sit down. What a great movie. Interesting story. Every character was interesting. The casting was great. The acting was great across the board. I could've sat there and immediately watched it again.

Michael Gondry- you've earned yourself a lifetime boycott by me. Was 3D referring to an extra dimension of deplorable? Mr. Rogen- I will not see anything you've made for a full 18 months. I'm going easy on you because I've liked a lot of your older stuff.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 21, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
I watched Avatar yesterday.  It was very blue.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 21, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
Finally watched Inside Job today. Unfortunate title - not only is it bland but it makes me think of those 9-11 conspiracy videos. But besides that it didn't disappoint. Very good. Impeccably crafted. And obviously fairly depressing with a really bleak ending (SPOILER ALERT: it's 2011 and it's business as usual). The most interesting aspect of it, for me - lots of this stuff has already been covered elsewhere, albeit maybe not this engrossingly - was the focus on academia and the part it played on paving the way for all the deregulation bullshit. That was sort of new to me. Overall highly recommended.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 21, 2011, 05:38:00 PM
I needed to get out of the house and spend some time alone so I went to the movies. I'm on line and on an impulse I surprised myself by buying a ticket to- get this- The Green Hornet. In 3D no less. Maybe I was feeling a little self-destructive. I gotta say, it didn't disappoint. That's only because my expectations were so low. What a piece of crap? What were they thinking? Seth Rogen, as the hero was about as unlikable as possible. It's hard to enjoy a story when the guy you're supposed to be rooting fro is a total douchebag. Also, Kato was basically superman and would be much better off without him. 

So I leave this reeking pile of a movie but don't feel like going home. Looky here! The fighter is playing in the next theater and I've only missed 10 minutes- so I slink in and sit down. What a great movie. Interesting story. Every character was interesting. The casting was great. The acting was great across the board. I could've sat there and immediately watched it again.

Michael Gondry- you've earned yourself a lifetime boycott by me. Was 3D referring to an extra dimension of deplorable? Mr. Rogen- I will not see anything you've made for a full 18 months. I'm going easy on you because I've liked a lot of your older stuff.

Sounds like that movie was effin terrible, and a waste of your effin time.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on February 21, 2011, 06:46:29 PM
i've been on a netflix instant kick lately and watched The Parking Lot Movie, which i loved.  and the Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, which i also loved.

i'm trying to see the illusionist before it disappears from the theatre(s).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 21, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 21, 2011, 08:46:45 PM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.


I didn't see it but im really excited about the two films hes doing that come out this year.
 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 21, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.


I didn't see it but im really excited about the two films hes doing that come out this year.ing year.

Wow, Ramsaye and Polanski. Impressive.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 21, 2011, 11:50:06 PM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.

I found John C's parts the only enjoyable parts of this movie.  (Hope you still like the cut of my jib).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 22, 2011, 05:52:17 AM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.

I found John C's parts the only enjoyable parts of this movie.  (Hope you still like the cut of my jib).

He was very vulgar, but okay sometimes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 22, 2011, 08:50:22 AM
I needed to get out of the house and spend some time alone so I went to the movies. I'm on line and on an impulse I surprised myself by buying a ticket to- get this- The Green Hornet. In 3D no less. Maybe I was feeling a little self-destructive. I gotta say, it didn't disappoint. That's only because my expectations were so low. What a piece of crap? What were they thinking? Seth Rogen, as the hero was about as unlikable as possible. It's hard to enjoy a story when the guy you're supposed to be rooting fro is a total douchebag. Also, Kato was basically superman and would be much better off without him. 

So I leave this reeking pile of a movie but don't feel like going home. Looky here! The fighter is playing in the next theater and I've only missed 10 minutes- so I slink in and sit down. What a great movie. Interesting story. Every character was interesting. The casting was great. The acting was great across the board. I could've sat there and immediately watched it again.

Michael Gondry- you've earned yourself a lifetime boycott by me. Was 3D referring to an extra dimension of deplorable? Mr. Rogen- I will not see anything you've made for a full 18 months. I'm going easy on you because I've liked a lot of your older stuff.

Sounds like that movie was effin terrible, and a waste of your effin time.

It was terrible but I WAS there to waste time. Sometimes I take a chance on something. A lot of times it doesn't work out. Every once in a while I stumble over something really good that way.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 22, 2011, 08:56:08 AM
Yeah, I saw Cyrus without having any information about it and loved it.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 22, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
Anyone else see Cedar Rapids? I found it very mediocre and I think I'm tired of John C. Reilly humor.


I didn't see it but im really excited about the two films hes doing that come out this year.ing year.

Wow, Ramsaye and Polanski. Impressive.


Is he in a Polanski film too? I was thinking of the Ramsaye film and Terri.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 22, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
He is a great actor of course. For me one of the most emotional scenes of any movie ever is when he loses his gun in Magnolia.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on February 27, 2011, 03:00:20 AM
Just watched Until The Light Takes Us. Essentially, two pretentious filmmaker's trying very hard to impose a post-modernist view onto the Norwegian black metal scene of the late 80's and early 90's and accidentally making a watchable movie. I mean, any documentary about a music scene where church burnings and more than one murder happen (just for the metal of it all) will be interesting despite the interminable shots of metal dudes walking through snow covered forests and extended segments following around a "visual artist" co-opting black metal imagery.

Also, when they insert a Harmony Korine piece into it, I sort of checked out for a second.

Huge negative side: They really elide over Varg's abominable neo-Nazi views.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on February 27, 2011, 10:27:36 AM
Restrepo is really good. I liked that they captured the fear and chaos and "Holy shit!" feeling of actually being there without any lingering shots of dead or mangled bodies. It really stands in stark contrast to The Hurt Locker (which I also liked a great deal).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on February 27, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
If you're able to, track down and watch the Danish documentary Armadillo. It's about a team of Danish soliders at an outpost in Afghanistan, and covers pretty much the same bases as Restrepo in an equally involving fashion. I watched Armadillo first, so Restrepo had somewhat of a lesser impact on me (though I found it engaging and certainly worthy of the praise it's gotten). But if you want to see another good documentary about the war, albeit from a slightly different angle (young Danish soldiers going off to war), I'd recommend it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 27, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
Just finished watching 127 Hours.  Danny Boyle unquestionably churns out a slick product:  it was very handsome.  I was, however, very annoyed by the lack of change in James Franco's facial hair over the course of the ordeal, and I thought he was implausibly energetic once he freed himself.  A big fall and grave injury, just over five days with little water and food, and then a brutal amputation with a dull knife, and he's walking briskly?  I know he was a fit young fellow, but come on.

I have seen four of the nominees for best picture, which is amazing (it's been years and years since I've seen even one).  Maybe I'll even watch the Oscars tomorrow in celebration. I think I'll eschew Twitter just in case:  it would be tragic to have the results spoiled for me the first time I've watched the Academy Awards in more than a decade.

P.S.  I wonder what it would have been like watching 127 Hours not knowing at the outset how it ended.

P.P.S.  Non sequitur:  I just heard a fox scream.

P.P.P.S.  Maybe I can work through The Social Network and Inception tonight and tomorrow and up my total to a stunning five.  A fine goal.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 27, 2011, 08:22:04 PM
What is up with this "ION" channel? The only movies I ever see on the station are ones starring Bruce Willis.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on February 27, 2011, 08:29:57 PM
If you're able to, track down and watch the Danish documentary Armadillo. It's about a team of Danish soliders at an outpost in Afghanistan, and covers pretty much the same bases as Restrepo in an equally involving fashion. I watched Armadillo first, so Restrepo had somewhat of a lesser impact on me (though I found it engaging and certainly worthy of the praise it's gotten). But if you want to see another good documentary about the war, albeit from a slightly different angle (young Danish soldiers going off to war), I'd recommend it.

I caught this at TIFF last year, and I agree it's worth searching out. My favorite moment came after the screening during the director's Q&A. Regarding the numerous scenes capturing fierce firefights where the cameraman and crew is clearly right in the middle of things, someone asked 'were any of you ever in danger during filming?'
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 28, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
The final minutes of the Academy Awards show must have enraged Spike.  Doubly.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on February 28, 2011, 12:43:35 PM
The final minutes of the Academy Awards show must have enraged Spike.  Doubly.

Did Puff Daddy and the cast of iCarly perform a song, backed by the Staten Island Orchestra?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on February 28, 2011, 12:50:50 PM
Staten Island was involved.  And many, many people under the age of twenty-five.  Being heard.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 28, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Just finished watching 127 Hours.  Danny Boyle unquestionably churns out a slick product:  it was very handsome.  I was, however, very annoyed by the lack of change in James Franco's facial hair over the course of the ordeal, and I thought he was implausibly energetic once he freed himself.  A big fall and grave injury, just over five days with little water and food, and then a brutal amputation with a dull knife, and he's walking briskly?  I know he was a fit young fellow, but come on.

I have seen four of the nominees for best picture, which is amazing (it's been years and years since I've seen even one).  Maybe I'll even watch the Oscars tomorrow in celebration. I think I'll eschew Twitter just in case:  it would be tragic to have the results spoiled for me the first time I've watched the Academy Awards in more than a decade.

P.S.  I wonder what it would have been like watching 127 Hours not knowing at the outset how it ended.

P.P.S.  Non sequitur:  I just heard a fox scream.

P.P.P.S.  Maybe I can work through The Social Network and Inception tonight and tomorrow and up my total to a stunning five.  A fine goal.

It would have been my honor to have had you following my #oscars twitter feed, but I understand, you do what you can do.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 05, 2011, 03:53:02 PM
Just watched Black Swan.  Dumbdeedumbdumbdumb.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 05, 2011, 10:36:27 PM
Now I have just watched Repulsion, which is reams and reams better.  And, boy oh boy, did Aronofsky swipe a lot from it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: DS1077 on March 06, 2011, 12:48:10 AM
Just watched Black Swan.  Dumbdeedumbdumbdumb.

Truth.  I really don't understand all the affection "Black Swan" has been getting.  It's manages to be way over the top and boring at the same time, loaded with cliches, and Portman is kind of absurd in it as well.  I get that she did some dance training, but there isn't any kind of legible difference between her allegedly poorer dancing scenes and her improved ones (to the untrained eye, at least) and her character is played so meekly that her backstory doesn't make any sense to me - how did she even manage to get as far as she did in life if she can barely speak above a whisper?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 06, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Indeed, yes.  Nina reminded me of an anxious swot in high school.  Her acting consisted mostly of perpetual fretting.

I agree completely that the movie was both boring and overwrought.  Those ludicrous special effects!  When Nina's neck lengthened in the fight scene, I burst out laughing.  And those grotesque wings!  Oh, and the toes!  So, so heavy-handed and infantile.

Another thing that drove me nuts is that Mr. Genius French Choreographer, Thomas, spoke entirely in the most hackneyed of clichés. 

Bah, this is the first time I've bothered to think about it since watching it yesterday.  Repulsion, on the other hand, has been much on my mind.  Can't believe I had never gotten around to seeing it before.  Catherine Deneuve was amazing.  Eat your heart out, Natalie Portman (whom, by the way, I find likable; just not great).

Various things I'm reading about it all refer to Deneuve's character as sexually repressed, many as though that is the root of her illness (which is laughable).  Certainly, she's got probs with menfolk, possibly because of some foul deed in her past.  But to me the movie seems to chronicle a slightly wonky girl experiencing her first schizophrenic break.  And one of the more horrible aspects of the movie, for me, is the way both her victims see only her beauty and are oblivious to her craziness.  All she is to them is an object of desire; nothing else matters.   I cheered when she killed them.  I mean, come on, victim #1 breaks her door down (are we really supposed to accept this as an act of gallantry, not a prelude to rape?), and victim #2, surrounded by evidence of her lunacy, propositions and then jumps her instead of calling in the men in the white coats (who, in this movie, would probably have tried it on as well).  The movie drips with contempt for men.

The reviews of the movie are revealing.  The ones I've read are all by men, and all share the misguided notion that attractive women must by definition welcome the attentions their beauty draws.  This quote from a 1965 NYT review says it all:  "the weird and agitating mystery here is why a girl of such fascinating beauty should be as hostile as she is toward men."  Reviewers also consistently characterize the first victim as an innocent and mostly view the second victim as comic relief.  And more than one claim that Deneuve's character is opaque:  she does mad things, but the reason is obscure--unless it's just that she needs to get laid.

I'm experiencing a little repulsion myself now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 06, 2011, 09:53:11 AM
I just watched Samuel Fuller's White Dog. There were moments of greatness, however, the movie had a weird TV-movie look and vibe that kind of keeps it from being a great movie. The dog used is quite the amazing actor.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 06, 2011, 11:12:03 AM
The reviews of the movie are revealing.  The ones I've read are all by men, and all share the misguided notion that attractive women must by definition welcome the attentions their beauty draws.  This quote from a 1965 NYT review says it all:  "the weird and agitating mystery here is why a girl of such fascinating beauty should be as hostile as she is toward men."  Reviewers also consistently characterize the first victim as an innocent and mostly view the second victim as comic relief.  And more than one claim that Deneuve's character is opaque:  she does mad things, but the reason is obscure--unless it's just that she needs to get laid.

I'm experiencing a little repulsion myself now.

I agree, that's pretty sickening. Hypothetical, but what do you think the critics would say if Repulsion had been released today? (Actually, it would be interesting to see some 21st century criticism/analysis on the film - see what if any has changed in the reception of it.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 06, 2011, 11:40:02 AM
Most of the reviews I read (on Rotten Tomatoes) were pretty recent.  They're not all quease-inducing, but the number that are is surprising.  The implication that sexual repression is the cause, not a symptom, of the heroine's condition is fairly widespread.

later . . .  Just read this:  "It has become common to interpret the photo as evidence that Carole was sexually abused by her father, but Polanski has denied this in interviews, stating that he merely wanted to show that Carol had been disturbed from a very early age, without offering an exact explanation."  I'm pleased:  that's exactly how I understood the photo.  This also suggests that Polanski himself saw the sex stuff as a side effect, not a cause.  So many of the reviews imply that Carole's discomfort overhearing the sounds of sex from the other room is a sign of repression, when, come on, why shouldn't someone, particularly an eighteen-year-old, non-sexually active girl in 1965, find that distressing?  In the same way, any young woman at any time might respond fearfully to men as predatory as those in this movie.  As for interpreting Carole's disgust at her sister's boyfriend's habit of putting his razor and toothbrush in her glass as a further sign of sexual repression, well, that's just silly.  I mean, I'd be pretty revolted if someone, especially a nonrelative, took advantage of my glass that way. 

All that sets Carole apart is the extremity of her reaction, not the reaction itself.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 06, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
Watched LITTLE MURDERS for the first time tonight and LOVED IT. I'd heard it was pitch-black, but it was way more anarchic than I expected. Brilliant work from Jules Feiffer and Alan Arkin, and Elliott Gould is at least as good here as in The Long Goodbye. The Donald Sutherland scene was great too.

I subsequently learned that Jean-Luc Godard was strongly interested in directing it, but that fell apart (luckily, in my opinion) when he refused to attend any meetings about the film.  Gould quoted him as saying "If my wife and child wanted me to say I loved them, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 07, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
I just watched Samuel Fuller's White Dog. There were moments of greatness, however, the movie had a weird TV-movie look and vibe that kind of keeps it from being a great movie.

That's how I felt about A Woman Under the Influence.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 07, 2011, 12:42:23 AM
Watched LITTLE MURDERS for the first time tonight and LOVED IT. I'd heard it was pitch-black, but it was way more anarchic than I expected. Brilliant work from Jules Feiffer and Alan Arkin, and Elliott Gould is at least as good here as in The Long Goodbye. The Donald Sutherland scene was great too.

I subsequently learned that Jean-Luc Godard was strongly interested in directing it, but that fell apart (luckily, in my opinion) when he refused to attend any meetings about the film.  Gould quoted him as saying "If my wife and child wanted me to say I loved them, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves."

That's great, glad you liked it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 07, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
I've got to watch Little Murders again.  I saw it when it first came out and didn't like it much, but I didn't like anchovies back then, either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on March 07, 2011, 09:41:44 AM
Just watched Sylvain Chomet's The Illusionist, and I'm pretty sure it's some kind of masterpiece.

Saw this and Mike Leigh's Another Year over the weekend and loved them both.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 07, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
Moon was good, although I was disappointed by the total lack of David Bowie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on March 07, 2011, 08:45:23 PM
Watched LITTLE MURDERS for the first time tonight and LOVED IT. I'd heard it was pitch-black, but it was way more anarchic than I expected. Brilliant work from Jules Feiffer and Alan Arkin, and Elliott Gould is at least as good here as in The Long Goodbye. The Donald Sutherland scene was great too.

I subsequently learned that Jean-Luc Godard was strongly interested in directing it, but that fell apart (luckily, in my opinion) when he refused to attend any meetings about the film.  Gould quoted him as saying "If my wife and child wanted me to say I loved them, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves."



I really like Little Murders too. Wasn't Godard supposed to direct Bonnie and Clyde too, i think he even shot some scenes?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 08, 2011, 08:22:32 AM
Moon was good, although I was disappointed by the total lack of David Bowie.

He was the voice of Kevin Spacey.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 10, 2011, 10:50:42 AM
Speaking of which, I had kind of a Kevin-Spacey-in-"American-Beauty" moment last night. I'd been doing the respectable thing for too long! The Man can't keep me down any more! Still a rebel!

I went to see Drive Angry Shot in 3D.

Let me put it this way: There is one very good reason to see this movie. For the rest of your life, every movie you see will seem like a masterpiece.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 10, 2011, 10:57:18 AM
Speaking of which, I had kind of a Kevin-Spacey-in-"American-Beauty" moment last night. I'd been doing the respectable thing for too long! The Man can't keep me down any more! Still a rebel!

I went to see Drive Angry Shot in 3D.

Let me put it this way: There is one very good reason to see this movie. For the rest of your life, every movie you see will seem like a masterpiece.

Is it just bad, or boring too?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 10, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Well...as an action movie, it's boring. As a nearly bottomless conundrum, it kept my interest as an object of speculative inquiry.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 10, 2011, 11:40:58 AM
Speaking of which, I had kind of a Kevin-Spacey-in-"American-Beauty" moment last night. I'd been doing the respectable thing for too long! The Man can't keep me down any more! Still a rebel!

I went to see Drive Angry Shot in 3D.

Let me put it this way: There is one very good reason to see this movie. For the rest of your life, every movie you see will seem like a masterpiece.

It always bothered me about 'American Beauty' that the story is 'he rebels, then HE DIES!' (spoiler alert). It implies an extra level of hopelessness as to one's ability to change their life, when actually people do manage to do that sometimes. That wasn't the story they were trying to tell, though, I know.

Good suggestion on Drive Angry 3D. It might have helped me to appreciate the 'How Did This Get Made?' episode about it more if I'd seen it before. I still have time to check out 'Battlefield Earth' on Netflix, which I bet will have the same effect you mention.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 10, 2011, 01:43:44 PM
Listen, I enjoyed that "How Did This Get Made" episode; in fact it was what made me vulnerable to the impulse to go see the thing.  But no one should see the movie so they can better appreciate the jeering, derisive commentary on the movie.

In any case, I now have a suggestion for a Best Show guest: Nic Cage's agent. That would be an awesome interview. Or alternatively, maybe Ted Leo could write a song about Nic Cage's agent, sort of like that Mojo Nixon song about Shane MacGowan's dentist.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 10, 2011, 01:50:33 PM
I wasn't that interested in Drive Angry 3D at first, but am I to understand that Nic Cage literally breaks out of hell in this?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 10, 2011, 01:52:27 PM
Oh ho ho hooo! That's just the beginning, Chief!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on March 10, 2011, 02:59:34 PM
I wasn't that interested in Drive Angry 3D at first, but am I to understand that Nic Cage literally breaks out of hell in this?
I was also surprised to learn about this after seeing it mentioned casually in a write-up of the movie, and was/am baffled that it wasn't a part of the ads. How do you leave that detail out? I also continue to think that the movie should have been called That Cult Kidnapped My Daughter.
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 10, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
...3D
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 11, 2011, 08:49:00 AM
Speaking of which, I had kind of a Kevin-Spacey-in-"American-Beauty" moment last night. I'd been doing the respectable thing for too long! The Man can't keep me down any more! Still a rebel!

I went to see Drive Angry Shot in 3D.

Let me put it this way: There is one very good reason to see this movie. For the rest of your life, every movie you see will seem like a masterpiece.

It always bothered me about 'American Beauty' that the story is 'he rebels, then HE DIES!' (spoiler alert). It implies an extra level of hopelessness as to one's ability to change their life, when actually people do manage to do that sometimes. That wasn't the story they were trying to tell, though, I know.


I think this is the danger in reading/watching one story and trying to apply it to every case. It's made storywriters gun-shy. "What if this left-handed guy is painted as a sociopath? Won't the Legion of Left-Handed People come after me?"
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 11, 2011, 10:09:45 AM
Well in your case Dave, you probably have your hands full countering the 'all mathematicians are nuts' stereotype...
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Post by: Bryan on March 11, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
I wasn't that interested in Drive Angry 3D at first, but am I to understand that Nic Cage literally breaks out of hell in this?

Yeah, I'm with you on this. I've only read bad things about it, but they've all managed to make it sound like the most awesome movie ever made.

But it's no fun, huh?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 11, 2011, 01:53:32 PM
I wasn't that interested in Drive Angry 3D at first, but am I to understand that Nic Cage literally breaks out of hell in this?

Yeah, I'm with you on this. I've only read bad things about it, but they've all managed to make it sound like the most awesome movie ever made.

But it's no fun, huh?

Have you ever seen that Tony Millionaire cartoon where a guy with a thousand-yard stare is sort of manically laughing to himself "Ha Ha Ha Ha" and another guy asks him what's so funny and he says something like "Oh, I was just laughing at the putrid cesspool of futility that is existence"?  Well, if it's fun at all, it's the kind of fun that guy was having.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Christina on March 12, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
Finally saw Social Network last night. Did I miss something?
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Post by: SJK on March 12, 2011, 11:37:44 AM
No.
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Post by: masterofsparks on March 12, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
Finally saw Social Network last night. Did I miss something?

I liked it more the second time. It took me a little while to get used to the rapidspeak. There were times when I felt like an editor actually took out spaces in between words.
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Post by: Pidgeon on March 12, 2011, 12:21:02 PM
I was all set to hate it after that obnoxious opening scene, but it was pretty good after that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 12, 2011, 12:41:30 PM
Finally saw Social Network last night. Did I miss something?

Unless you say what you saw, it's hard to say what you missed, but I thought it was very fine.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on March 12, 2011, 05:31:36 PM
I was all set to hate it after that obnoxious opening scene, but it was pretty good after that.

I loved the opening 15 minutes, then thought it lost momentum
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on March 12, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
I was all set to hate it after that obnoxious opening scene, but it was pretty good after that.

I loved the opening 15 minutes, then thought it lost momentum

I really liked the whole thing, including the opening scene.
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Post by: buffcoat on March 12, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
8/10.  I really liked it, for a modern day major theatrical release.
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Post by: Christina on March 12, 2011, 11:49:45 PM
I didn't hate it by any means, I'm just really surprised that it got such effusive praise and an Oscar nomination.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on March 13, 2011, 12:40:12 AM
Finally saw Social Network last night. Did I miss something?

I liked it more the second time. It took me a little while to get used to the rapidspeak. There were times when I felt like an editor actually took out spaces in between words.


I liked the first scene but it threw me off for a second i was worried the whole film was going to be like an episode of Gilmore Girls.
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Post by: Kormod on March 13, 2011, 10:24:44 AM
One problem I had with the Social Network was that it seemed as though "Mark Zuckerberg" was what Aaron Sorkin would be like if he were Mark Zuckerberg, rather than what Mark Zuckerberg is like in real life. From interviews I've watched, Zuckerberg doesn't seem like his movie version at all -- he's inarticulate, nervous, and kind of dull. Compare these videos:

Mark Zuckerberg gets hot under the collar over your privacy issues and sweats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3hu3iG8B2g#ws)
The Social Network clip - Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFFtpd8VNN0#ws)
The real-life Zuckerberg is a boring nerd, not some Aaron Sorkin witty-line machine. Changing the guy's personality might have made the movie more entertaining, but -- maybe I'm alone on this -- I would have preferred to see a movie about the real Zuckerberg, even if he is an uninteresting schlub.
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Post by: yesno on March 13, 2011, 10:29:42 AM
I thought it was strange when Zuckerberg started singing Gilbert and Sullivan after the Yo Yo Ma recital.
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Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2011, 10:34:05 AM
I didn't hate it by any means, I'm just really surprised that it got such effusive praise and an Oscar nomination.

I concur.

Two tiny, dumb things that really annoyed me: 

1.  The scene where the Winklevoss twins are waiting to see the president of Harvard, when the secretary says, "This building is one hundred years older than the country it's in, so be careful."  There's no way this woman would make such an observation.  That Sorkin put those words in that character's mouth told me one thing:  he didn't go to Harvard.  ( (I know it was to set up a couple of jokes; that's no excuse.)

2.  The Prince of Monaco's American accent.  Come on. 

Finally, Mark Zuckerberg as portrayed by Jesse Eisenberg reminded me painfully of several fellows (and a couple of ladies) I've known.  So awkward, so smart (about some things), so prickly, so obnoxious, so pathetic.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 13, 2011, 11:07:35 AM
I think it got a lot of critical praise for being (1) a movie about contemporary history that raises a lot of issues whose outcome is still unknown (as opposed to a period piece like The King's Speech, where the questions have been safely answered in the past), and (2) a sustainedly involving and entertaining piece that's mainly just people talking.  Critics like both of those things, as do a lot of us critics manqués.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 13, 2011, 11:15:17 AM
Critics like both of those things, as do a lot of us critics manqués.


Are you calling me some sort of monkey?  Or are you saying I'm from Manchester, England?


In either case, good day to you sir.














I said good day!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2011, 02:30:33 PM
Just got done watching Inception.  It was pretty fun (though I liked Memento more).  I don't get why people were so befuddled by it, but maybe that's because I've spent a lifetime (well, as much of it as I've gotten through so far) reading/watching science fiction and fantasy.  I also don't mind being mildly confused at times.  Everything usually becomes clear enough at the end, or, if it doesn't, the lingering mystery can be refreshing (so much fantasy fails by explaining too much).

A few things troubled me.  The first have to do with the mechanics of the conceit:  Why was Cobb's subconscious able to project into the dreams even when he wasn't the subject?  And why didn't Ariadne arouse Arthur's suspicion when she said she was the architect of the dreams?  Finally, I dispute the notion that being physically hurt in a dream causes one to feel pain.  You can be surprised by, say, a knife in your dream gut, but it doesn't actually hurt.  Thus using dreams to make soldiers better able to handle the physical assault of war wouldn't work.

Another, bigger problem had to do with the character of Ariadne.  If some little upstart forced herself into my private dream and started quizzing me about its significance, I would (a) be furious and  (b) lose all trust in her.  Yet Cobb almost immediately forgives her intrusion and accepts her as a confidante.

I also thought some of the writing was uninspired.  For example, having Arthur's daddy's last word to him be "disappointed" was horribly predictable.  And Ariadne's psychobabble made me want to kick her.

But all in all it was very entertaining, sort of Ocean's Eleven in dreamland.  Except for the impressive design of the thing, though, I didn't find it particularly mind-boggling. 

Next up in my trek through the Oscar nominees?  Either Toy Story 3 or The Fighter (I don't have access to True Grit yet).  Although I think I'll watch Zach Galifianakis on SNL first as a palate cleanser

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Post by: Matt on March 13, 2011, 03:18:35 PM
I liked THE SOCIAL NETWORK fine. But I think critic Mike D'Angelo made a good point when he said that the movie was falsely advertised as being about the insidious, corrupting influence of social media (The Way We Live Now!) when what we got was a fairly by-the-numbers legal drama. It just didn't hit on the one thing that mattered, which is: what makes Facebook so important? All the movie ended up being was a battle of wills between rich assholes. I appreciated the atmosphere Fincher brought to it, the gloomy portentous music, etc. but all the grandiosity of the telling just underlined how small stakes the story really was, in my opinion. It made me wonder if the critics who crowed "This movie defines a generation!" actually saw the film.
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Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2011, 03:29:38 PM
If those critics were right, what a sad generation indeed.
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Post by: Sarah on March 13, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Got The Fighter under my belt.  It was a nice fairy tale, based on a true story though it may have been.  Didn't think that Melissa Leo or Christian Bale was so amazing (I'd rather have seen Amy Adams get the Best Supporting Actress Oscar, and John Hawkes the Best Supporting Actor award [or perhaps two of the other nominees--I haven't seen all the performances]), but both did a good job.  The terrible sisters were appropriately terrible, and Amy Adams did very well indeed.

I was tremendously annoyed by the tidiness of the epiphanies in the pivotal gym scene, especially dense Alice's but oh well.  Overall, it was predictable and sentimental, and I enjoyed it.

Toy Story 3 next.  Maybe not tonight, though.  I've been known to watch more than three movies in a day (I think five is my record), but between the Hoof and Mouth Sinfonia and the finales of a couple BBC shows I've been watching, I have other demands on my not-so-precious-but-neither-unlimited time.  I'm sure you understand.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 14, 2011, 07:39:24 AM
Didn't think that Melissa Leo or Christian Bale was so amazing

This was Bale's first role that I enjoyed. I thought he did great. I saw High on Crack Street years ago and his performance seemed to mesh really well with my remembrance of that guy.
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Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2011, 01:23:11 PM
I think he overdoes everything.  He's a terribly self-conscious actor.  Always trying so, so hard. 
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Post by: Yannick on March 14, 2011, 07:26:37 PM
I've seen a sneak preview of Paul and it was pretty good.

Its a  warm movie about two friends who get involved with a bunch of wacky characters on a roadtrip adventure, but for the most part, the wacky characters are quite funny and much less obvious than the trailers would let you believe.

Its way sweeter than "WOOHOO  THIS ALIEN'S RUDE WITH 'TUDE!!!"-type trailers make it out to be.

Bill Hader steals a lot of the movie for me, he is quite funny but manages to cross into slightly heroic as well as menacing, which I didnt expect at all.

Paul the alien is a pretty amazing special effects creation and the way its been merged with Seth Rogan's performance shows exactly how to pull that kind of effect and how great it can be in the right hands.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 16, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
Korine no longer makes "movies": http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2# (http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2#)
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Post by: Pidgeon on March 16, 2011, 07:16:51 PM
Korine no longer makes "movies": http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2# (http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2#)

Nice Kevin Allin masks at the bottom of the page.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 16, 2011, 07:28:58 PM
Korine no longer makes "movies": http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2# (http://www.vbs.tv/watch/umshini-wam--2#)

I posted that before I watched it. I thought it was great! I was expecting Trash Bleepers 2.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on March 16, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
Got The Fighter under my belt.  It was a nice fairy tale, based on a true story though it may have been.  Didn't think that Melissa Leo or Christian Bale was so amazing (I'd rather have seen Amy Adams get the Best Supporting Actress Oscar, and John Hawkes the Best Supporting Actor award [or perhaps two of the other nominees--I haven't seen all the performances]), but both did a good job.  The terrible sisters were appropriately terrible, and Amy Adams did very well indeed.

Plus she's cute as all get out...

I has a huge problem with some of the songs picked during "The Fighter".  For example I audibly groaned when the comeback montage was accompanied by "Back in the Saddle"...

As far as "The King's Speech"... It was decent. It kept reminding me of some of those older Merchant Ivory films like "A Room With a View" in that I enjoyed it while watching it and would never have the desire to watch it again...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 18, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
So, Wild at Heart...

This thing was insane. It actually reminds me a lot of Tim & Eric.
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Post by: fonpr on March 18, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
So, Wild at Heart...

This thing was insane. It actually reminds me a lot of Tim & Eric.
I have watched that movie four times.   

There are only two movies have I seen more times  Brazil and Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

And Repo Man[/i

Oh, and the Supersuckers movie...but it's a concert.
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Post by: Pidgeon on March 18, 2011, 07:16:01 PM
I really like the scene where Harry Dean Stanton's character sees some dogs on TV and just starts barking for no reason. It's completely out of character for him and is never mentioned again.
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Post by: buffcoat on March 18, 2011, 10:33:26 PM
So, Wild at Heart...

This thing was insane. It actually reminds me a lot of Tim & Eric.
I have watched that movie four times.   

There are only two movies have I seen more times  Brazil and Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

And Repo Man

Oh, and the Supersuckers movie...but it's a concert.

I saw "Creepy Jackalope Eye" on that one Beavis and Butt-head about 50 times.  Is that the same thing?
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Post by: masterofsparks on March 19, 2011, 02:04:29 AM
Just re-watched The Verdict. I loved it, but I will watch Paul Newman in anything (even Fort Apache, The Bronx, which makes Death Wish 3 look like The Wire).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 19, 2011, 10:28:10 AM
Just re-watched The Verdict. I loved it, but I will watch Paul Newman in anything (even Fort Apache, The Bronx, which makes Death Wish 3 look like The Wire).

Weird moment on David Letterman with Clint Eastwood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW2stYw5oQI#ws)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 19, 2011, 10:28:50 AM
Kaboom is something else! I loved it in the same way I love Degrassi.
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 19, 2011, 11:00:00 AM
Wild at Heart is truly the only David Lynch feature that I can completely live without (Yeah, I know, Iasabella Rosselini and Willem Dafoe, but even there it's a little too Lynch-being-Lynchy for me), but I'm genuinely glad to hear that people like it.  I want there to be as much David Lynch love in the world as possible.

Saw Winter's Bone last night.  I guess I'm past the age where I feel the need to say, "Yes, a very fine film" about movies that are well-acted and well-crafted when they basically bore the daylights out of me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on March 19, 2011, 11:20:21 AM
Saw Winter's Bone last night.  I guess I'm past the age where I feel the need to say, "Yes, a very fine film" about movies that are well-acted and well-crafted when they basically bore the daylights out of me.

I wasn't bored by Winter's Bone, but it did give me a feeling that I've been getting more & more often these days - namely that this is a level of achievement that movies should be able to attain routinely. Good acting, interesting script and locations, credible atmosphere... these are things that the average movie ought to be able to pull off. And yet, it's incredibly rare, so Winter's Bone seems exceptional in comparison.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 19, 2011, 11:34:30 AM
I watched that JJ Abrams movie about the early days of the Star Trek crew. 'Spock Babies' or something like that.
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Post by: fonpr on March 19, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
So, Wild at Heart...

This thing was insane. It actually reminds me a lot of Tim & Eric.
I have watched that movie four times.   

There are only two movies have I seen more times  Brazil and Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

And Repo Man

Oh, and the Supersuckers movie...but it's a concert.

I saw "Creepy Jackalope Eye" on that one Beavis and Butt-head about 50 times.  Is that the same thing?

Not quite.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 19, 2011, 12:39:51 PM
Of all the Oscar-nominated movies I've watched so far (all but two), I liked Winter's Bone the best.  It also bored me the least.

Taste is a funny thing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 19, 2011, 12:56:23 PM
That boat scene was the opposite of boring. And I didn't find the rest boring either.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on March 19, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Not at all bored. And definitely beyond that age.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on March 20, 2011, 01:09:24 AM
Just caught up with Fish Tank on Sundance channel and really enjoyed it. It drew a lot of parallels to Ratcatcher to me, also a plus for reminding me that  Robin S. "Show Me Love" still exists. 



Enter the Void i wasn't sure if it was brilliant or the dumbest thing ive ever seen.  I wasn't  to light on following the back of a dudes head for 3/4 of a 2 and a half hour movie. Reminded me of a whole movie from the perspective of Being John Malkovich.


Sunset Limited is probably the best thing ive seen that's came out this year so far. Looking forward to Tommy Lee Jones next full length film.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 20, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
That boat scene was the opposite of boring. And I didn't find the rest boring either.

Seconded. 
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on March 20, 2011, 01:32:04 PM
I dunno.  The boat scene was gross and potentially-violent enough to be unboring, but I still didn't give a damn.  I'm clearly odd man out here, so to help restore balance to the universe I will posit that I was bored enough for fifty people throughout.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on March 20, 2011, 01:48:57 PM
It's okay.  I'm sure you like things that bore me. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on March 20, 2011, 01:59:05 PM
I'm with you, Cavorting With Nudists. I found WINTER'S BONE boring as all get-out. It's the kind of movie that's normally right up my alley, but I just didn't connect with it for whatever reason. I thought Jennifer Lawrence was great, though.

I haven't seen a movie for a few weeks, so I'll go to one today. I'm thinking PAUL. The concept does nothing for me, but that cast!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 20, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
I've heard from a few critics that Paul is nothing like what the trailers are presenting it to be.
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Post by: Omar on March 20, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
I dunno.  The boat scene was gross and potentially-violent enough to be unboring, but I still didn't give a damn.  I'm clearly odd man out here, so to help restore balance to the universe I will posit that I was bored enough for fifty people throughout.

For the record, I removed the Winter's Bone DVD after about 45 minutes and returned it to Netflix Headquarters. The Granik/Reichardt/"slowcore" stuff is a no-go for me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 20, 2011, 02:47:42 PM
I dunno.  The boat scene was gross and potentially-violent enough to be unboring, but I still didn't give a damn.  I'm clearly odd man out here, so to help restore balance to the universe I will posit that I was bored enough for fifty people throughout.

For the record, I removed the Winter's Bone DVD after about 45 minutes and returned it to Netflix Headquarters. The Granik/Reichardt/"slowcore" stuff is a no-go for me.

FINALLY! It bored me to death in the theaters.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 20, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - or "Uncle Boonman" as the woman introducing it said at one point. Have to admit I was perplexed at the last 15 minutes, and generally wish I knew more about specific Thai cultural references in "Joe's" films; but man, I can't think of anyone else even close to making films this unpredicatable. I don't think many people who are interested are going to miss this if it plays near them, but see it in a theater for the dark natural lighting if you can.  Also, there's a sequence that should make every person on this board think of Andy from Lake Newbridge.

The Fighter - not much more than a diversion, in my opinion. Bale was good but I didn't think he deserved to win anything over John Hawkes for Winter's Bone.

Carlos - The first 3 1/2 hours are as well-made as you may have heard, but the last two can really wear you down.  It seems to me that kind of meticulous approach is the right one for a biopic of this sort though.  By the end there's no mistaking him for a glamorous figure.
 


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 20, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - or "Uncle Boonman" as the woman introducing it said at one point. Have to admit I was perplexed at the last 15 minutes, and generally wish I knew more about specific Thai cultural references in "Joe's" films; but man, I can't think of anyone else even close to making films this unpredicatable. I don't think many people who are interested are going to miss this if it plays near them, but see it in a theater for the dark natural lighting if you can.  Also, there's a sequence that should make every person on this board think of Andy from Lake Newbridge.

The Fighter - not much more than a diversion, in my opinion. Bale was good but I didn't think he deserved to win anything over John Hawkes for Winter's Bone.

Carlos - The first 3 1/2 hours are as well-made as you may have heard, but the last two can really wear you down.  It seems to me that kind of meticulous approach is the right one for a biopic of this sort though.  By the end there's no mistaking him for a glamorous figure.

How does Carlos compare to Che?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 20, 2011, 03:07:12 PM
Haven't seen Che.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pidgeon on March 20, 2011, 03:07:21 PM
Don't tell me Carlos the Jackal is a glamorous John Dillinger/Al Capone-type folk hero now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on March 20, 2011, 03:10:51 PM
I dunno.  The boat scene was gross and potentially-violent enough to be unboring, but I still didn't give a damn.  I'm clearly odd man out here, so to help restore balance to the universe I will posit that I was bored enough for fifty people throughout.

For the record, I removed the Winter's Bone DVD after about 45 minutes and returned it to Netflix Headquarters. The Granik/Reichardt/"slowcore" stuff is a no-go for me.

You disappoint me, Scrivener.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on March 20, 2011, 03:22:39 PM
Carlos is similar to The Baader-Meinhoff Complex in that it explores the fascination of left-wing extremists of that era but ends up sharply critiquing their motives and deluded self-images.

Also, WT-fucking-F at Winter's Bone being called slowcore.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 20, 2011, 03:24:24 PM
I'm bored right now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on March 21, 2011, 02:08:36 AM
Watched Tron last night against my better judgement, but just wanted something dumb and fun; well, it hit one of those marks.

Watched a French comedy tonight called Heartbreaker with Vanessa Paradis. Rom-coms aren't exactly my bag, but this one was totally enjoyable and quite funny as far as these things go. Recommended.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 21, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
I saw Paul last night. The trailers are very misleading, as reported. Paul, the character, mostly avoids Poochie-style annoyingness. It is a worthy gap filler between true Edgar Wright/Simon Pegg written masterpieces.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on March 21, 2011, 09:22:03 AM
I saw Paul last night. The trailers are very misleading, as reported. Paul, the character, mostly avoids Poochie-style annoyingness. It is a worthy gap filler between true Edgar Wright/Simon Pegg written masterpieces.

Winter's Bore?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 21, 2011, 12:03:58 PM
I saw Paul last night.

Well why didn't you say hi? ;)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 21, 2011, 12:55:57 PM
I saw Paul last night.

Well why didn't you say hi? ;)

Because then you would know where he hides. (She?)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 21, 2011, 12:56:45 PM
I am both a male and a master at secreting myself away, and thus would never dream of revealing my location!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 21, 2011, 11:08:46 PM
I saw Paul last night. The trailers are very misleading, as reported. Paul, the character, mostly avoids Poochie-style annoyingness. It is a worthy gap filler between true Edgar Wright/Simon Pegg written masterpieces.

Winter's Bore?

From Russia With the Winter's Love Bone
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 22, 2011, 08:49:16 AM
Watched F Is For Fake.  Should have been called P is for Perv.  The movie lingers on a young woman's posterior and other parts for a lot longer than it needed to in order to make its point.  Silly images of Picasso staring through some blinds at her could not elevate or justify it in my opinion.  I could practically see Orson drooling on his black coat yelling "Change into this, sweetheart, and let's take it again" twenty-eight times.

But the line "Take this away and bring me the steak au poivre" was worth the whole thing.


Also, I know I'm late to this game, but I saw Restrepo last night and thought it was excellent.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 22, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
I thought F for Fake did a great job documenting the last days of the kind of coolness that Welles represented.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on March 22, 2011, 10:19:03 AM
I thought F for Fake did a great job documenting the last days of the kind of coolness that Welles represented.

I guess, but I found his regaling of friends over wine and gout-sized plates of food nauseating.

That being said, the subject of the movie was fascinating and seemed like a definite inspiration for Exit Through the Gift Shop.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on March 22, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
I saw PAUL on Sunday. What a disaster. I didn't laugh once, although Jeffrey Tambor killed it, as usual.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Yannick on March 27, 2011, 11:46:01 PM
I saw SuckerPunch and while its a pretty flawed film, I like that Zack Snyder gets a lot of WB money to make a movie that says "If you enjoy this on a surface level, you are a creep".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on March 28, 2011, 08:06:16 AM
Quote
The film received a PG-13 rating. To avoid an R rating, a love scene was cut. Browning said, "I had a very tame and mild love scene with Jon Hamm... I think it's great for this young girl to actually take control of her own sexuality." She added, "[The MPAA] got Zack to edit the scene and make it look less like she's into it. Zack said he edited it down to the point where it looked like he was taking advantage of her. That's the only way he could get a PG-13 [rating] and he said, 'I don't want to send that message.'"
(from Wikipedia)

Apparently, Snyder isn't as big of a creep as the MPAA.
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Post by: Yannick on March 28, 2011, 11:02:33 AM
Quote
The film received a PG-13 rating. To avoid an R rating, a love scene was cut. Browning said, "I had a very tame and mild love scene with Jon Hamm... I think it's great for this young girl to actually take control of her own sexuality." She added, "[The MPAA] got Zack to edit the scene and make it look less like she's into it. Zack said he edited it down to the point where it looked like he was taking advantage of her. That's the only way he could get a PG-13 [rating] and he said, 'I don't want to send that message.'"
(from Wikipedia)

Apparently, Snyder isn't as big of a creep as the MPAA.

Wow! That the MPAA wanted him to cut the scene that way is incredibly creepy, especially considering how the rest of the movie goes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on March 28, 2011, 12:18:29 PM
I saw PAUL on Sunday. What a disaster. I didn't laugh once, although Jeffrey Tambor killed it, as usual.

I didn't think it was a disaster. I agree that it wasn't all that funny, but it was far too pleasant to be a disaster. Pegg and Frost have great chemistry. Wiig was actually restrained, at least for her. Plus it was nice to see Joe Lo Truglio have a substantial role.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on April 01, 2011, 01:57:35 AM
I'm watching Sam Seder's comedy time capsule Who's The Caboose.  It's actually pretty funny and super interesting to see so many great comedians 15 years ago.  Jon Benjamin is particularly good.

Edit- Oh, and it's available on Netflix streaming. Cheapos unite!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on April 01, 2011, 04:00:22 AM
I'm watching Sam Seder's comedy time capsule Who's The Caboose.  It's actually pretty funny and super interesting to see so many great comedians 15 years ago.  Jon Benjamin is particularly good.

Edit- Oh, and it's available on Netflix streaming. Cheapos unite!

weird, I just watched that tonight, but i had to take a break in the middle because it was bumming me out. not that i live in that version of Los Angeles at all but knowing it's out there gives me the creeps
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on April 01, 2011, 04:15:09 AM
I'm watching Sam Seder's comedy time capsule Who's The Caboose.  It's actually pretty funny and super interesting to see so many great comedians 15 years ago.  Jon Benjamin is particularly good.

Edit- Oh, and it's available on Netflix streaming. Cheapos unite!

weird, I just watched that tonight, but i had to take a break in the middle because it was bumming me out. not that i live in that version of Los Angeles at all but knowing it's out there gives me the creeps

Ha! I did the same thing! Turned it off with 40 minutes left because I couldn't take it all at once. It was giving me showbiz anxiety.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 04, 2011, 08:57:34 PM
I just watched the Paul & Linda McCartney doc Wingspan.  I love Paul, but it was really bad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on April 05, 2011, 02:12:15 PM
All work and no play makes this guy a freaking psycho.

http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802 (http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Matt on April 05, 2011, 03:04:34 PM
All work and no play makes this guy a freaking psycho.

http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802 (http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802)

First the Illuminati/EYES WIDE SHUT nonsense, and now this. What is it about Kubrick that attracts such complete wackaloons?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on April 05, 2011, 03:16:35 PM
All work and no play makes this guy a freaking psycho.

http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802 (http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802)

First the Illuminati/EYES WIDE SHUT nonsense, and now this. What is it about Kubrick that attracts such complete wackaloons?

i think you answered your own question.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 06, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
Finally got around to watching The Girlfriend Experience last night.  I was not a fan while I was watching it, and found myself really annoyed with the stunt casting of a porn star in the central role, but the long-term impact was positive.  I was obsessing about it on my commute to work today, trying to figure out what on earth Soderbergh was trying to communicate with the final shot of the film (I do not want to spoil it, but to those who have seen it, a reminder is that it involves Sasha Grey and a jeweler who is a little "quick on the draw").  Was he just saying "Hey, this is awkward reality behind the fanstasy?"

Anyway, I am not steeped in film history or film crit, but FWIW, I thought it was worth a watch.  I would love to hear the thoughts of those with more refined palates.

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Post by: wood and iron on April 06, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
I watched Kagemusha last night. I thought it was pretty brilliant. A little lengthy (I'm automatically suspect of movies over 2 and half hours) but I felt like by the end it earned the length as I was that much more invested in the characters and plot. And some of those shots where we never see the battle but just flashes of red and blue silhouetting the warlords...amazing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on April 06, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
F for Fake. It took me quite a while to get hold of the editing rhythm, but once I was on board I stayed there.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on April 06, 2011, 09:18:41 PM
Finally got around to watching The Girlfriend Experience last night.  I was not a fan while I was watching it, and found myself really annoyed with the stunt casting of a porn star in the central role, but the long-term impact was positive.  I was obsessing about it on my commute to work today, trying to figure out what on earth Soderbergh was trying to communicate with the final shot of the film (I do not want to spoil it, but to those who have seen it, a reminder is that it involves Sasha Grey and a jeweler who is a little "quick on the draw").  Was he just saying "Hey, this is awkward reality behind the fanstasy?"

Anyway, I am not steeped in film history or film crit, but FWIW, I thought it was worth a watch.  I would love to hear the thoughts of those with more refined palates.

At the very least, The Girlfriend Experience is a fairly vivid time capsule of September 2008. I'm sure there's a significant point to the jeweler in the last scene being staunchly pro-Israel and pro-McCain, but I'm not quite sure what Soderbergh was getting at either.

BTW, that was film critic Glenn Kenny as "The Erotic Connoisseur." I believe after watching himself in this film he decided to lose a lot of weight.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Denim Gremlin on April 08, 2011, 10:40:50 AM
Meek's Cutoff - Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEmL9at6JT0#ws)

I really excited to see Meek's Cutoff. I've been championing Kelly Reichardt as the best filmmaker no ones heard of ever since I stumbled across Old Joy playing at Film Forum. 

I'm glad to see she's getting a chance to move out of the "mumble-core" world and doing something more cinematic.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 08, 2011, 12:27:43 PM
Finally got around to watching The Girlfriend Experience last night.  I was not a fan while I was watching it, and found myself really annoyed with the stunt casting of a porn star in the central role, but the long-term impact was positive.  I was obsessing about it on my commute to work today, trying to figure out what on earth Soderbergh was trying to communicate with the final shot of the film (I do not want to spoil it, but to those who have seen it, a reminder is that it involves Sasha Grey and a jeweler who is a little "quick on the draw").  Was he just saying "Hey, this is awkward reality behind the fanstasy?"

Anyway, I am not steeped in film history or film crit, but FWIW, I thought it was worth a watch.  I would love to hear the thoughts of those with more refined palates.

At the very least, The Girlfriend Experience is a fairly vivid time capsule of September 2008. I'm sure there's a significant point to the jeweler in the last scene being staunchly pro-Israel and pro-McCain, but I'm not quite sure what Soderbergh was getting at either.

BTW, that was film critic Glenn Kenny as "The Erotic Connoisseur." I believe after watching himself in this film he decided to lose a lot of weight.

"The Erotic Connoisseur" may have been the single most unpleasant character ever created in film.
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Post by: Steve of Bloomington on April 08, 2011, 01:16:40 PM
My daughter watched 'Beverly Hills Chihuahua II', and I caught some of that.
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Post by: Hugman 3.0 on April 08, 2011, 02:27:49 PM
I just watched The Killer Inside Me.  If you like Casey Affleck, as I do, you'll probably like it. That is, if you can stomach watching a man beat a woman to death with his hands, which I barely could.  It also got me to thinking about how wrong it is that realistic portrayals of sex get an NC-17 rating while brutally realistic portrayals of violence are just fine with an R.  This country is sick.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 09, 2011, 09:46:09 PM
Finally got around to watching The Girlfriend Experience last night.  I was not a fan while I was watching it, and found myself really annoyed with the stunt casting of a porn star in the central role, but the long-term impact was positive.  I was obsessing about it on my commute to work today, trying to figure out what on earth Soderbergh was trying to communicate with the final shot of the film (I do not want to spoil it, but to those who have seen it, a reminder is that it involves Sasha Grey and a jeweler who is a little "quick on the draw").  Was he just saying "Hey, this is awkward reality behind the fanstasy?"

Anyway, I am not steeped in film history or film crit, but FWIW, I thought it was worth a watch.  I would love to hear the thoughts of those with more refined palates.

At the very least, The Girlfriend Experience is a fairly vivid time capsule of September 2008. I'm sure there's a significant point to the jeweler in the last scene being staunchly pro-Israel and pro-McCain, but I'm not quite sure what Soderbergh was getting at either.

BTW, that was film critic Glenn Kenny as "The Erotic Connoisseur." I believe after watching himself in this film he decided to lose a lot of weight.

"The Erotic Connoisseur" may have been the single most unpleasant character ever created in film.

This is the first thing I've ever read that convinced me to see this movie.

Also, I like to think that this was a response to the above:

My daughter watched 'Beverly Hills Chihuahua II', and I caught some of that.
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Post by: Chris L on April 17, 2011, 02:24:10 PM
Watched THE SUN, Aleksandr Sokurov's movie about Hirohito during the final days of WWII.  Features a strange but fascinating lead performance by Issei Ogata ("Is he going to be making those fish faces with his mouth the whole time," I quickly wondered. Yes).  The tone is almost Beckett-like as he whiles away the days in his bunker with his slavish servants, occasionally emerging to study marine biology and have awkward meetings with Douglas MacArthur (played by a mediocre ex-pat actor with a B-52-sized forehead). There's also an ambitious sequence where he envisions giant flying fish dropping bombs on Japan.  A flawed but very interesting film (one not visually suited to Netflix instant though).
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on April 18, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
Just watched Mother, wow don't know why i slept on that one when it was in the theater. Its the kind of movie Larry David would have nightmares about.
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Post by: Matt on April 28, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Saw CERTIFIED COPY last weekend and was absolutely mesmerized by it. A genuine masterpiece. Another viewing is in order, since I was so emotionally wrapped up in what was going on that I neglected to fully engage with the movie's more intellectual qualities, which are considerable. As it stands, it's easily the best movie I've seen so far this year.

I also saw HANNA yesterday. Man, this movie is an absolute blast. I had zero interest after viewing the trailer, but the eggheads at the Criterion Forum were raving about it, so I decided to check it out. They were right. It didn't reinvent the wheel or anything, but it's immensely stylish and full of weird little touches and interesting scenes. Two scenes in particular stood out to me: Hanna escaping from an underground CIA bunker (not a spoiler - it happens in the first third of the movie), and Cate Blanchett meeting an entertainingly Germanic Tom Hollander in a bar. The score is great. And it has both Cate Blanchett AND Olivia Williams in it, which automatically makes it better than 95% of the other garbage out now.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 09, 2011, 09:33:27 AM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.
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Post by: jbissell on May 09, 2011, 10:40:07 AM
Saw CERTIFIED COPY last weekend and was absolutely mesmerized by it. A genuine masterpiece. Another viewing is in order, since I was so emotionally wrapped up in what was going on that I neglected to fully engage with the movie's more intellectual qualities, which are considerable. As it stands, it's easily the best movie I've seen so far this year.

Finally caught it on Saturday and I totally agree.
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Post by: crumbum on May 09, 2011, 06:37:55 PM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.

I loved it. As time goes on I no longer believe it's a masterpiece (saw it at the Toronto Film Fest last year), but nonetheless one of the most thought-provoking and beautifully made movies to come along in a while.
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Post by: AllisonLeGnome on May 12, 2011, 03:29:33 PM
Midnight in Paris was kind of disappointing- not that I was particularly expecting much, now that I think about it.
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Post by: Louis Lame on May 12, 2011, 09:36:24 PM
really looking forward to the new Malick flick  (http://youtu.be/fLPe0fHuZsc)

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Post by: jbissell on May 24, 2011, 10:27:50 AM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.

The reaction in my theater was similar. I liked it a lot, though I'm still not sure how I feel about the ending.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 24, 2011, 10:58:17 AM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.

The reaction in my theater was similar. I liked it a lot, though I'm still not sure how I feel about the ending.

I thought the ending was intense. When Michelle Williams looking through the tree. The overwhelming decision they had to face.
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Post by: Denim Gremlin on May 24, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.

that's awesome to know. I was really excited to see this, I can't wait to check it out. I've always thought of Kelly Reichardt as one of the best directors right now that no one ever talks about. It's exciting to see her expanding into new territory.
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Post by: wood and iron on May 25, 2011, 10:07:08 AM
Just watched A Woman Under the Influence. I wasn't particularly thrilled by it. I recognized the amazing performances by Gena Rowlands and Peter Falk. However, I feel like the movie never really develops the story of Mabel's insanity. It was two and a half hours of her acting loopy and Peter Falk alternating between kissing her and hitting her. This was my first Cassavettes film. Am I missing something?
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Post by: masterofsparks on May 25, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Story is not usually the focus of any Cassevetes movie. Killing of a Chinese Bookie is probably the most story-centric, but in general, if you're looking for a compelling story, I'd steer clear of further Cassavetes stuff.
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Post by: wood and iron on May 25, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Story is not usually the focus of any Cassevetes movie. Killing of a Chinese Bookie is probably the most story-centric, but in general, if you're looking for a compelling story, I'd steer clear of further Cassavetes stuff.

I'm not looking for story per se. I'm quite happy in character study stuff. However, I thought this particular movie the characters just kept doing the same stuff.
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Post by: fonpr on May 25, 2011, 02:50:06 PM
Story is not usually the focus of any Cassevetes movie. Killing of a Chinese Bookie is probably the most story-centric, but in general, if you're looking for a compelling story, I'd steer clear of further Cassavetes stuff.

I'm not looking for story per se. I'm quite happy in character study stuff. However, I thought this particular movie the characters just kept doing the same stuff.

MEI (My Experience Is) that's life.
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Post by: Sarah on May 25, 2011, 04:32:22 PM
Yup.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on May 25, 2011, 08:59:08 PM
Story is not usually the focus of any Cassevetes movie. Killing of a Chinese Bookie is probably the most story-centric, but in general, if you're looking for a compelling story, I'd steer clear of further Cassavetes stuff.


You might want to consider Mickey and Nicky not directed by Cassavetes but him and Faulk are pretty great in it.
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Post by: wood and iron on May 25, 2011, 09:02:46 PM
I understand that's life. This is a movie. If I want to watch sad people make each other sadder in the exact same ways ad infinitum, I'll go watch my parents. I just felt like ultimately the movie didn't have anything to say about the circumstances these people were in. It was a character sketch stretched out to two and a half hours.

And I know all I've said so far has made it sound like I didn't like it which is not true. I genuinely appreciated the movie and the performances were astounding.
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Post by: Chris L on May 26, 2011, 03:13:43 AM
There was a (thankfully) very brief period after I watched a few Cassavetes films close together where the thought of watching most anything else seemed boring and pointless. The level of engagement that they demand and reward is so unique. For all his influence, I can't think of too many other filmmakers who released work so personal and singular into the world. He's almost a genre unto himself.

Killing of a Chinese Bookie is one of the all-time late night, dream logic movies. It's almost incommunicable what he was trying to express with that one.  The terrible nightclub act is so hard to watch, but there was no other way for him than to go deep into the sad, bizarre world that character created for himself.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on May 26, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
(http://www.bam.org/viewdocument.aspx?did=4142)

I am exploring a new branch of mumblecore by checking out Daddy Longlegs and Yeast. Both were good movies I liked a lot but they were both spot on portrayal of terrifying personalities. Daddy Longlegs showing the bad paternal skills of a dad who is trying to be cool and seems to be scared of maturity and responsibility. It was directed by the Safdie Brothers who also did The Pleasure of Being Robbed which I recommend as well. And Yeast which centers around this bitch who is just cruel to everyone she meets. It was directed by Mary Bronstein who has done a few other things and is in cahoots the Safdies. Both films left me sick at the end, but isn't that a good thing?

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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 02, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
I thought Registered Sex Offfender was hilarious and I think you guys would like it.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 03, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
(http://www.slackerwood.com/files/images/user-2/harmony_me_nov09.jpg)

Harmony and Me (the other movie by Bob Byington, writer/director of Registered Sex Offender)
Like RSO it is consistently funny and has a lot of the same actors including Kevin Corrigan and Nick Offerman. (btw it's on Netflux Instant)

"Harmony and Me" trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLps55DmJj0#ws)
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Post by: Chris L on June 04, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
From the Mubi review of The Hangover Pt II: "Watching the sometimes idyllic interplay between stooges, Buddhist monks and monkeys, you begin to wonder if Phillips has ever watched Apichatpong Weerasethakul." Critics gotta get paid!
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Post by: Chris L on June 04, 2011, 07:56:24 PM
I saw The Tree of Life yesterday, and I do indeed think it's a masterpiece, which is not to say it isn't also flawed. While most of the effects of the creation sequence were impressive enough (the volcanic explosions looked amazing, the dinosaurs more serviceable), I admired the boundless ambition of that section more than I really loved it.  What resonated for me was the family plotline set in 50's Waco that dominates the vast majority of the running time.  I can't say my childhood resembled the nuclear family dynamics and idyllic weather patterns depicted here, yet I can't think of too many other films that nail how we remember childhood like this one does, starting from when we are most vulnerable, to the rambunctiousness of boyhood, to when we first learn important lessons about compassion, death, sex, violence, etc.  Malick's frequently ground-level camera captures a child's fascination with both these harsh and gentle snapshots of life (keeping things from getting maudlin), as well as fantastic shots like the low-angle one of the kids throwing a baseball sky high (maybe subconsciously aiming for heaven, for all they know at the time). The film feels more like a series of these impressions rather than a progression of scenes, but the dramatic conflict between the young Sean Penn character and his parents and younger brother hardly suffers for it.  Brad Pitt gives his best performance that I've seen here, successfully embodying the larger-than-life father figure while scrubbed of any movie star aura; and the kid who plays the young Jack proves fully up to the challenge.

I can't say I was as impressed by the modern-day scenes with Sean Penn, even though Malick makes the skyscrapers of Houston look almost mythical. Mostly Penn just walks around looking bummed, and we could stand to learn more about how he changes from the child we see at the end of the 50s to the depressed adult, even considering the traumatic event he's dealing with.  Like plenty of others, I will also apparently never not cringe at some of Malick’s post-Thin Red Line voiceovers (I wish they were still as idiosyncratic as those in Badlands and Days of Heaven).  Then there’s the ending, which I’m still unsure about, but which I suspect will be even more  misread by those already suspicious of the film’s “Christian” overtones.  Still, for all the flaws this mostly lived up to the overwhelming experience it was hyped as, and is filled with an uncommon amount of images and themes that will stick with me. The comparatively paltry obsessions and ambitions of the current “indie” cinema (the preceding trailer for THE ART OF GETTING BY being exhibit A) look almost disgraceful in comparison.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 04, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
I saw The Tree of Life yesterday, and I do indeed think it's a masterpiece, which is not to say it isn't also flawed. While most of the effects of the creation sequence were impressive enough (the volcanic explosions looked amazing, the dinosaurs more serviceable), I admired the boundless ambition of that section more than I really loved it.  What resonated for me was the family plotline set in 50's Waco that dominates the vast majority of the running time.  I can't say my childhood resembled the nuclear family dynamics and idyllic weather patterns depicted here, yet I can't think of too many other films that nail how we remember childhood like this one does, starting from when we are most vulnerable, to the rambunctiousness of boyhood, to when we first learn important lessons about compassion, death, sex, violence, etc.  Malick's frequently ground-level camera captures a child's fascination with both these harsh and gentle snapshots of life (keeping things from getting maudlin), as well as fantastic shots like the low-angle one of the kids throwing a baseball sky high (maybe subconsciously aiming for heaven, for all they know at the time). The film feels more like a series of these impressions rather than a progression of scenes, but the dramatic conflict between the young Sean Penn character and his parents and younger brother hardly suffers for it.  Brad Pitt gives his best performance that I've seen here, successfully embodying the larger-than-life father figure while scrubbed of any movie star aura; and the kid who plays the young Jack proves fully up to the challenge.

I can't say I was as impressed by the modern-day scenes with Sean Penn, even though Malick makes the skyscrapers of Houston look almost mythical. Mostly Penn just walks around looking bummed, and we could stand to learn more about how he changes from the child we see at the end of the 50s to the depressed adult, even considering the traumatic event he's dealing with.  Like plenty of others, I will also apparently never not cringe at some of Malick’s post-Thin Red Line voiceovers (I wish they were still as idiosyncratic as those in Badlands and Days of Heaven).  Then there’s the ending, which I’m still unsure about, but which I suspect will be even more  misread by those already suspicious of the film’s “Christian” overtones.  Still, for all the flaws this mostly lived up to the overwhelming experience it was hyped as, and is filled with an uncommon amount of images and themes that will stick with me. The comparatively paltry obsessions and ambitions of the current “indie” cinema (the preceding trailer for THE ART OF GETTING BY being exhibit A) look almost disgraceful in comparison.


Seeing it Friday. Only read your first sentence. Excited because of it!
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Post by: Sarah on June 04, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
I find this positive review all the more persuasive because I know you were seated in a less than ideal spot.
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Post by: Chris L on June 04, 2011, 08:50:48 PM
I find this positive review all the more persuasive because I know you were seated in a less than ideal spot.

Yep, if Malick had been sitting next to the slob I was next to he would've had to concede there is no such thing as grace.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 05, 2011, 10:47:10 AM
Just watched Meeks Cutoff and have one question. How is Bonnie Prince not in this?
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 05, 2011, 10:54:11 AM
Just watched Meeks Cutoff and have one question. How is Bonnie Prince not in this?

I expected him to show up as so wandering loner.
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Post by: wood and iron on June 05, 2011, 09:55:14 PM
Watched Suspiria for the first time tonight. Pretty great. The score by Goblin pretty much makes that movie.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on June 05, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
Yowz. I watched it about 2 months back and was shocked at how incompetent it seemed. Tell me what to like, I want to believe.
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Post by: wood and iron on June 05, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
I will admit that the storyline and acting were pretty terrible. But just how impressionistic the bright color palette made the movie feel really made it stand out from most horror fare to me. Also, the soundtrack by Goblin I felt was pretty fantastic in its own way. It wasn't scary. But as a cult movie, it appealed to me.
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Post by: wood and iron on June 06, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
Everyone else is going to leave me hanging about Suspiria? There's got to be at least one other FOT who likes that movie...
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 06, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
I thought it was OK.  Never saw it, though.
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Post by: Chris L on June 06, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
I've ended up seeing Suspiria 3 or 4 times (mostly trying to see it "the right way") despite not being a horror person and having very little interest in other Argento. I agree that the production design is so far beyond everything else going on in the film it makes  it worthwhile.  That and the awesome Goblin score.  It's filmed vividly enough that you can put up with the cheesiness of the plot and acting.

That said, my least favorite moment in the entire history of cinema is the way the girl running at the beginning of Suspiria doesn't swing her arms.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 06, 2011, 10:24:41 PM
Everyone else is going to leave me hanging about Suspiria? There's got to be at least one other FOT who likes that movie...

Never saw the movie, but love the Goblin score.
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Post by: roubaix on June 07, 2011, 01:26:34 AM
I like Suspiria but prefer Bird with the Crystal Plumage, which has superb contributions from both Storaro and Morricone.  The story is also more coherent, based in the "real world."

I've seen two other Argento movies, Tenebre and Profondo Rosso.  PR has a genius reveal at the beginning, but the movie itself is underwhelming (watching the longest cut didn't help).  The cinematography lacks depth of field and vibrant colors.  Tenebre is pretty good for cheap thrills.
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Post by: fish on June 07, 2011, 05:53:39 PM
I've ended up seeing Suspiria 3 or 4 times (mostly trying to see it "the right way")

what's that?
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Post by: Sarah on June 07, 2011, 06:11:45 PM
I tried to watch it one night years ago, but a bunch of drunk hooligans were rampaging in my house, so I gave up partway through.  I'll have to seek it out again.
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Post by: Chris L on June 07, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
I've ended up seeing Suspiria 3 or 4 times (mostly trying to see it "the right way")

what's that?

That would be going from VHS, to shitty dvd, to ok dvd, to ok theater print.  I didn't mean any mind-altering substances.
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Post by: B_Buster on June 07, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
I saw The Tree of Life yesterday, and I do indeed think it's a masterpiece, which is not to say it isn't also flawed. While most of the effects of the creation sequence were impressive enough (the volcanic explosions looked amazing, the dinosaurs more serviceable), I admired the boundless ambition of that section more than I really loved it.  What resonated for me was the family plotline set in 50's Waco that dominates the vast majority of the running time.  I can't say my childhood resembled the nuclear family dynamics and idyllic weather patterns depicted here, yet I can't think of too many other films that nail how we remember childhood like this one does, starting from when we are most vulnerable, to the rambunctiousness of boyhood, to when we first learn important lessons about compassion, death, sex, violence, etc.  Malick's frequently ground-level camera captures a child's fascination with both these harsh and gentle snapshots of life (keeping things from getting maudlin), as well as fantastic shots like the low-angle one of the kids throwing a baseball sky high (maybe subconsciously aiming for heaven, for all they know at the time). The film feels more like a series of these impressions rather than a progression of scenes, but the dramatic conflict between the young Sean Penn character and his parents and younger brother hardly suffers for it.  Brad Pitt gives his best performance that I've seen here, successfully embodying the larger-than-life father figure while scrubbed of any movie star aura; and the kid who plays the young Jack proves fully up to the challenge.

I can't say I was as impressed by the modern-day scenes with Sean Penn, even though Malick makes the skyscrapers of Houston look almost mythical. Mostly Penn just walks around looking bummed, and we could stand to learn more about how he changes from the child we see at the end of the 50s to the depressed adult, even considering the traumatic event he's dealing with.  Like plenty of others, I will also apparently never not cringe at some of Malick’s post-Thin Red Line voiceovers (I wish they were still as idiosyncratic as those in Badlands and Days of Heaven).  Then there’s the ending, which I’m still unsure about, but which I suspect will be even more  misread by those already suspicious of the film’s “Christian” overtones.  Still, for all the flaws this mostly lived up to the overwhelming experience it was hyped as, and is filled with an uncommon amount of images and themes that will stick with me. The comparatively paltry obsessions and ambitions of the current “indie” cinema (the preceding trailer for THE ART OF GETTING BY being exhibit A) look almost disgraceful in comparison.

Just saw this, Chris. Great review and I agree with all of your points. I actually thought the voiceovers in The Tree of Life worked better than in Thin Red Line because it illustrated how cutoff most people are from each other when it comes to the most important questions we all have about life.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 11, 2011, 08:38:59 AM
I watched Paul last night and I don't think I laughed once.

Tree of Life on the other hand lived up to my high expectations. Excellent!
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 11, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
Anyone here a fan of Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man"?  I love it.  One of my all-time favorites.

Just saw that it's available streaming on Netflix. Hoping to re-watch it tonight for the first time in years.
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Post by: masterofsparks on June 11, 2011, 02:43:07 PM
Anyone here a fan of Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man"?  I love it.  One of my all-time favorites.

Just saw that it's available streaming on Netflix. Hoping to re-watch it tonight for the first time in years.

Me. I was huge into Jarmusch during my college years and I've found as I've rewatched that they don't hold up at all. Except Dead Man.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 11, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
Anyone here a fan of Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man"?  I love it.  One of my all-time favorites.

Just saw that it's available streaming on Netflix. Hoping to re-watch it tonight for the first time in years.

Me. I was huge into Jarmusch during my college years and I've found as I've rewatched that they don't hold up at all. Except Dead Man.

They've all held up for me. In fact I used to hate Stranger Than Paradise til I rewatched it two years ago.
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Post by: Denim Gremlin on June 11, 2011, 03:58:19 PM
Anyone here a fan of Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man"?  I love it.  One of my all-time favorites.

Just saw that it's available streaming on Netflix. Hoping to re-watch it tonight for the first time in years.

Me. I was huge into Jarmusch during my college years and I've found as I've rewatched that they don't hold up at all. Except Dead Man.

They've all held up for me. In fact I used to hate Stranger Than Paradise til I rewatched it two years ago.

I'm with you Paul, I rewatched Mystery Train for the first time in years recently and loved it again. Though, the first time I watched it I didn't realize there were subtitles for the scenes with the Japanese couple so I had to try to figure out what they were saying from the context of the scene. I like it better that way.

I still love Down By Law the best though.
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Post by: buffcoat on June 11, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Finished Badlands today.

I hear good things about that The New World, but his other stuff is junk, right?
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Post by: dave from knoxville on June 11, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
Finished Badlands today.

I hear good things about that The New World, but his other stuff is junk, right?

Days of Heaven's a marvel.
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Post by: masterofsparks on June 11, 2011, 11:44:39 PM
Finished Badlands today.

I hear good things about that The New World, but his other stuff is junk, right?

Days of Heaven's a marvel.

So good I was able to watch the whole thing despite my irrational hatred for Richard Gere.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 12, 2011, 01:10:38 AM
Finished Badlands today.

I hear good things about that The New World, but his other stuff is junk, right?

Days of Heaven's a marvel.

I feel like in each one of his films her develops his vision a little further with the culmination of The Tree of Life.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 12, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
Anyone here a fan of Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man"?  I love it.  One of my all-time favorites.

Just saw that it's available streaming on Netflix. Hoping to re-watch it tonight for the first time in years.

Me. I was huge into Jarmusch during my college years and I've found as I've rewatched that they don't hold up at all. Except Dead Man.

They've all held up for me. In fact I used to hate Stranger Than Paradise til I rewatched it two years ago.

I'm with you Paul, I rewatched Mystery Train for the first time in years recently and loved it again. Though, the first time I watched it I didn't realize there were subtitles for the scenes with the Japanese couple so I had to try to figure out what they were saying from the context of the scene. I like it better that way.

I still love Down By Law the best though.

Dead Man is my favorite too.  Maybe I'm wrong, but my sense is that Jarmusch is becoming a little passé, and younger film fans are largely not gravitating toward him anymore.  I liked The Limits of Control overall, but it was a huge bomb and I haven't seen too many people defend it. His next movie apparently involves vampires, but I can't imagine it will have much to do w/ the overexposed Twilight/True Blood sort.

I think Jarmusch is a little more unique than he's given credit for. I don't know when we'll see another "hipster" filmmaker adept at not only namechecking a bunch of references, but drawing interesting parallels between them as a form of indirect, Greil Marcus-like pop culture criticism. I'm thinking not only of looking for echoes of the American west in Neil Young's music and running with the samurai/Wu-Tang thing, but also plunking Joe Strummer and Japanese hipsters into his rumination on Elvis and Memphis in Mystery Train (speaking of Marcus...).  I know plenty of people find this approach boring or irritating, but I think there's still fun to be had in films like that one and Down By Law.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on June 12, 2011, 09:29:02 AM
It should also be mentioned that his early films - Permanent Vacation, Strangers in Paradise - were as influenced by Antonioni as anything else.

I haven't rewatched of his films recently, but I dearly love most of them based on multiple viewings over the years. Curiously, Dead Man is not one of my favorites.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 12, 2011, 09:36:24 AM
I realize taste is subjective and all that, but I defy anyone to enjoy the LA section of Night on Earth. Most of that movie is pretty boring (I only really enjoy the NY section), but that LA section is AWFUL, and it's mostly Winona Ryder's fault.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 12, 2011, 10:04:14 AM
I realize taste is subjective and all that, but I defy anyone to enjoy the LA section of Night on Earth. Most of that movie is pretty boring (I only really enjoy the NY section), but that LA section is AWFUL, and it's mostly Winona Ryder's fault.

I actually turned the movie off after that section years ago. I don't think anyone said the guy is batting 1000.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 12, 2011, 11:05:40 AM
I realize taste is subjective and all that, but I defy anyone to enjoy the LA section of Night on Earth. Most of that movie is pretty boring (I only really enjoy the NY section), but that LA section is AWFUL, and it's mostly Winona Ryder's fault.

Wynonna and Gina Reynolds were pretty great i thought, but thats the only part of the movie ive seen on cable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on June 12, 2011, 11:11:34 AM
I realize taste is subjective and all that, but I defy anyone to enjoy the LA section of Night on Earth. Most of that movie is pretty boring (I only really enjoy the NY section), but that LA section is AWFUL, and it's mostly Winona Ryder's fault.

I believe I liked the Helsinki segment the best.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on June 12, 2011, 11:12:23 AM
And Days of Heaven is wonderful.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on June 12, 2011, 02:35:35 PM
I saw Tree of Life today. I enjoyed it, though my enjoyment was somewhat marred by the elderly couple who chose to sit next to me in a non-crowded theater and, clearly having no idea what kind of movie they'd chosen, spent the entire running time loudly asking each other questions and generally trying to explain the film to each other.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on June 12, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
And Days of Heaven is wonderful.
I'm gonna have to hand over my paycheck to itunes because of you people. I love and hate apple at the same time. Hopefully if I get to move back to my hometown on a more permanent basis, I can hand over my money to the small independent business that keeps good movies in stock. That would make me much happier.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on June 12, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
I saw Tree of Life today. I enjoyed it, though my enjoyment was somewhat marred by the elderly couple who chose to sit next to me in a non-crowded theater and, clearly having no idea what kind of movie they'd chosen, spent the entire running time loudly asking each other questions and generally trying to explain the film to each other.
You didn't include the part of your story where you took a fake call from work on your cell phone to excuse yourself from watching the movie because of the old people talking. Did Tom actually get a refund for Synecdoche New York?! That's how the story went, right?!  :)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 12, 2011, 05:36:36 PM
I saw Tree of Life today. I enjoyed it, though my enjoyment was somewhat marred by the elderly couple who chose to sit next to me in a non-crowded theater and, clearly having no idea what kind of movie they'd chosen, spent the entire running time loudly asking each other questions and generally trying to explain the film to each other.

Advice: stay away from those Sunday features. My viewing of Another Year came with the added feature of an old man saying "Eh I can't understand 'em!" every five minutes. One of the signs of aging is going into all the movies you see knowing nothing but the title.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 12, 2011, 05:40:14 PM
And Days of Heaven is wonderful.
I'm gonna have to hand over my paycheck to itunes because of you people. I love and hate apple at the same time. Hopefully if I get to move back to my hometown on a more permanent basis, I can hand over my money to the small independent business that keeps good movies in stock. That would make me much happier.

Do you say this because you buy movies from Itunes? I don't get it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on June 12, 2011, 05:54:57 PM
And Days of Heaven is wonderful.
I'm gonna have to hand over my paycheck to itunes because of you people. I love and hate apple at the same time. Hopefully if I get to move back to my hometown on a more permanent basis, I can hand over my money to the small independent business that keeps good movies in stock. That would make me much happier.

Do you say this because you buy movies from Itunes? I don't get it.
Yes. I am living far away from home. A lot of films that I might like to see are not available, itunes turns out to be the best source for watching films. Renting or in some cases buying them is the only option. It's the controlled experience of buying films through apple, you can only watch them on your computer or you have to buy apple tv. I should have been clearer. Also, I love getting movie recommendations from the people that post on this forum/thread. I guess that was the main point.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on June 16, 2011, 05:13:57 PM
Saw Submarine last week and really enjoyed it. Especially Paddy Considine.

Also saw Midnight in Paris. It was fine, but perfectly forgettable. I don't get all the glowing reviews it seems to be getting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 16, 2011, 06:14:29 PM
Also saw Midnight in Paris. It was fine, but perfectly forgettable. I don't get all the glowing reviews it seems to be getting.

It's because it is pitched perfectly at reviewers' most flattering self-perceptions.  It's designed to make you feel smart and tasteful for liking it, even if you haven't cracked a book written during the 1920's since college. (Not that I've seen it, I can just tell.  That's what Woody Allen does.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 17, 2011, 06:09:08 AM
Also saw Midnight in Paris. It was fine, but perfectly forgettable. I don't get all the glowing reviews it seems to be getting.

It's because it is pitched perfectly at reviewers' most flattering self-perceptions.  It's designed to make you feel smart and tasteful for liking it, even if you haven't cracked a book written during the 1920's since college. (Not that I've seen it, I can just tell.  That's what Woody Allen does.)

In other words, he writes his age and background. I am thankful he's not writing films about what's the matter with kids today. One of my favorite Tom quotes: it's not FOR you.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on June 17, 2011, 07:44:07 AM
I saw Tree of Life today. I enjoyed it, though my enjoyment was somewhat marred by the elderly couple who chose to sit next to me in a non-crowded theater and, clearly having no idea what kind of movie they'd chosen, spent the entire running time loudly asking each other questions and generally trying to explain the film to each other.

Advice: stay away from those Sunday features. My viewing of Another Year came with the added feature of an old man saying "Eh I can't understand 'em!" every five minutes. One of the signs of aging is going into all the movies you see knowing nothing but the title.

A couple of years ago I went to an highly acclaimed art film on a Sunday evening and the theater turned out to be jam packed. As the previews ended there was an abnormally long pause before the first reel started up, long enough for the doddering old man sitting behind me to say to his near-deaf wife, 'ready or not, here it comes!' -- only to be forced by her irritated 'WHA??!?' to repeat himself louder and louder until on the third try he was yelling it to the whole theater.

The movie was The White Ribbon, which in retrospect made his exclamation rather poignant.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 17, 2011, 08:14:00 AM
There's a certain theater here where I get those old people every screening. When I saw Black Swan there was a guy near me who, during the scene where the old man is leering at Portman on the subway, loudly announced "That's me!" to be hilarious.  Then the old man on-screen started fiddling with himself and the guy lamely clarified "that's not me."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 17, 2011, 08:51:50 AM
In other words, he writes his age and background. I am thankful he's not writing films about what's the matter with kids today. One of my favorite Tom quotes: it's not FOR you.

Well, but it kinda is.  When Tom says that, he doesn't mean "You don't LIKE it;" he means there's no reason to expect to like something pitched at a demographic radically different from your own.  I'm a New Yorker in my 50s with some graduate education and as much nostalgia for past bohemias as anyone; Add "Jewish" into the mix and I could hardly be more perfect for Allen's target audience.  Unfortunately, I think all his films are, on some level, about what's the matter with everyone who isn't like him.  And I'm not sure which is worse: writing films about what's the matter with kids today, or writing films about how kids like Scarlett Johanson or Evan Rachel Wood are right on his sexual wavelength.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 17, 2011, 08:54:19 AM
There's a certain theater here where I get those old people every screening. When I saw Black Swan there was a guy near me who, during the scene where the old man is leering at Portman on the subway, loudly announced "That's me!" to be hilarious.  Then the old man on-screen started fiddling with himself and the guy lamely clarified "that's not me."

That's almost funny enough to be excusable. I was listening to an Aerial View about people talking at movies and shows and we just have to accept that we are in the minority. So I have to just deal with the jerk standing up at the end of Meeks Cutoff and yelling "What a joke!" or the hipster jerk before "Exit Throught the Gift Shop" loudly telling his friend "I can't believe all these old people are here to see a Banksy movie!"

Anyone seen Super 8? I might see it Sunday.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 17, 2011, 10:03:35 PM
In other words, he writes his age and background. I am thankful he's not writing films about what's the matter with kids today. One of my favorite Tom quotes: it's not FOR you.

Well, but it kinda is.  When Tom says that, he doesn't mean "You don't LIKE it;" he means there's no reason to expect to like something pitched at a demographic radically different from your own.  I'm a New Yorker in my 50s with some graduate education and as much nostalgia for past bohemias as anyone; Add "Jewish" into the mix and I could hardly be more perfect for Allen's target audience.  Unfortunately, I think all his films are, on some level, about what's the matter with everyone who isn't like him.  And I'm not sure which is worse: writing films about what's the matter with kids today, or writing films about how kids like Scarlett Johanson or Evan Rachel Wood are right on his sexual wavelength.

My apologies, cwn, you aren't nearly as young as I had guessed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 18, 2011, 01:53:54 AM
Forget the Zookeeper has anybody seen this?


(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/57740/cruise_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 18, 2011, 07:15:25 AM
Forget the Zookeeper has anybody seen this?


(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/57740/cruise_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)


I have no idea what that movie is BUT I'm guessing...


Tom Cruise IS... DANZIG (Cue crashing music.  "Mothelll... tell your chirrdren nawt to wawk mah weigggh...")
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 18, 2011, 07:21:54 AM
Actually, I IMDBed it and it's better than that.


A small-town girl arrives in Hollywood at the height of the 1980s rock-music scene.


















Here she is:
(http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2010/11/paul-giamatti.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on June 18, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
Cruise is a little too tall to portray Danzig.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 18, 2011, 11:12:45 AM
Forget the Zookeeper has anybody seen this?


(http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/57740/cruise_jpg_627x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg)

How can this NOT be Tom Cruise as Danzig?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 25, 2011, 11:20:26 PM
"Whooda thunk" I would like a movie with a cover like this: (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FNEXS797L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 26, 2011, 08:04:03 AM
You probably have to be a certain type of sucker to fall for it, and I am an overly-emotional guy who it's not that hard to manipulate, but with that stipulation in place, I was pleasantly overwhelmed by The Tree of Life. From my perspective, when the first 2 hours of a movie are this close to perfect, you can accept the inevitable let-down that any attempt to "wrap it up" for an ending necessitates. The first time I cried in a movie since young Ricky Schroeder kept screaming "CHAMP!!! CHAMP!!!"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on June 26, 2011, 11:14:01 AM
I thought Midnight In Paris stunk, but I am finding it hard to separate my reaction to the people in the theater with me from my reaction to the movie itself. Whenever I enter a cinema to find it crammed full of people who I suspect don't go to the movies more than once or twice a year, but are somehow all out at once, I know I'm in trouble.

I found it lightly amusing, but actually laughed perhaps twice. The thing that got under my skin was the way it played to the middlebrow pretensions of the audience so hard -- i.e. having some basic knowledge of the artists portrayed, and 'getting' the lame jokes such as Hemingway speaking like a poor parody of one of his novels.

And I'm aware that saying all this probably makes me seem pretentious myself.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on June 26, 2011, 11:31:14 AM
The thing that got under my skin was the way it played to the middlebrow pretensions of the audience so hard

Don't wanna get too tedious on this topic, but: that's what Woody Allen does, it's his signature. To expect anything else is like expecting a Kevin Smith movie not to use the word "dick."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on June 26, 2011, 01:15:00 PM
Watching Woody Allen movies always make me think "Psssh they haven't read a quarter of those books." whenever they walk through their living room.

Dave there are so many scenes in Tree of Life that made me tear up. Specifically when Jack tells Pitt, "You'd like to kill me."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 26, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
I thought Midnight In Paris stunk, but I am finding it hard to separate my reaction to the people in the theater with me from my reaction to the movie itself. Whenever I enter a cinema to find it crammed full of people who I suspect don't go to the movies more than once or twice a year, but are somehow all out at once, I know I'm in trouble.

I found it lightly amusing, but actually laughed perhaps twice. The thing that got under my skin was the way it played to the middlebrow pretensions of the audience so hard -- i.e. having some basic knowledge of the artists portrayed, and 'getting' the lame jokes such as Hemingway speaking like a poor parody of one of his novels.

And I'm aware that saying all this probably makes me seem pretentious myself.



I have an internal war about middlebrow culture.  When I was younger, I disdained it all.  Now I guess I pick and choose.  I tell myself, "at least some people in this town aren't watching Transformers 3."

I liked Midnight in Paris fine.  I thought Corey Law and Order: LA was funny as Hemingway.  I got more 20s references than the average audience member but I still missed several of them.

Other middlebrow stuff that I hate: Andrew Lloyd Webber.  Garrison Keillor.  Bluegrass.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on June 26, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
I thought Midnight In Paris stunk, but I am finding it hard to separate my reaction to the people in the theater with me from my reaction to the movie itself. Whenever I enter a cinema to find it crammed full of people who I suspect don't go to the movies more than once or twice a year, but are somehow all out at once, I know I'm in trouble.

I found it lightly amusing, but actually laughed perhaps twice. The thing that got under my skin was the way it played to the middlebrow pretensions of the audience so hard -- i.e. having some basic knowledge of the artists portrayed, and 'getting' the lame jokes such as Hemingway speaking like a poor parody of one of his novels.

And I'm aware that saying all this probably makes me seem pretentious myself.



I have an internal war about middlebrow culture.  When I was younger, I disdained it all.  Now I guess I pick and choose.  I tell myself, "at least some people in this town aren't watching Transformers 3."

I liked Midnight in Paris fine.  I thought Corey Law and Order: LA was funny as Hemingway.  I got more 20s references than the average audience member but I still missed several of them.

Other middlebrow stuff that I hate: Andrew Lloyd Webber.  Garrison Keillor.  Bluegrass.




Bluegrass? If you live in the south that's not middlebrow.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on June 26, 2011, 06:53:16 PM
I thought Midnight In Paris stunk, but I am finding it hard to separate my reaction to the people in the theater with me from my reaction to the movie itself. Whenever I enter a cinema to find it crammed full of people who I suspect don't go to the movies more than once or twice a year, but are somehow all out at once, I know I'm in trouble.

I found it lightly amusing, but actually laughed perhaps twice. The thing that got under my skin was the way it played to the middlebrow pretensions of the audience so hard -- i.e. having some basic knowledge of the artists portrayed, and 'getting' the lame jokes such as Hemingway speaking like a poor parody of one of his novels.

And I'm aware that saying all this probably makes me seem pretentious myself.



I have an internal war about middlebrow culture.  When I was younger, I disdained it all.  Now I guess I pick and choose.  I tell myself, "at least some people in this town aren't watching Transformers 3."

I liked Midnight in Paris fine.  I thought Corey Law and Order: LA was funny as Hemingway.  I got more 20s references than the average audience member but I still missed several of them.

Other middlebrow stuff that I hate: Andrew Lloyd Webber.  Garrison Keillor.  Bluegrass.




Bluegrass? If you live in the south that's not middlebrow.


But if you don't, it is.  Or if you live in the northern-transplant suburbs of the South.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on July 14, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
No. Nooooooo!

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/juno-writer-diablo-cody-to-script-evil-dead-rem/224337 (http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/juno-writer-diablo-cody-to-script-evil-dead-rem/224337)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on July 14, 2011, 09:37:45 PM
Anybody seen the trailer for Vera Farmigas new film Higher Ground? Looks like it might be pretty good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on July 17, 2011, 06:25:32 PM
THE FILMS OF WOODY ALLEN AND ANDREI TARKOVSKY: A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON BY DAVE FROM KNOXVILLE

Take it away, dfk!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 17, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
Andrei Tartovsky vs Woody Allen.

Here's how this works; I normally pull what I take to be the 10 best films for a movie person (actor, director, screenwriter, etc), and compare them to someone else's best 10. To the extent that I am familiar with the works, I use my own opinion; when I don't know about specific films, I use collected critical commentary (I read a LOT.)

In this case I have to drop down to 9 films rather than the customary 10, because while Tartovsky directed 11 films, I only have solid commentary on 9 of them. So I am throwing out one of Woody's middling efforts (ie, what I consider the 5th best of his top ten), Husbands and Wives, and using the remaining nine for comparison.

Now, the goal is to try to match up individual films, or for balancing's sake, 2 films each for the subjects that in my opinion are of comparable artistic value. At the end, I am usually left with a small set of films for each artist, and it is generally clear that one's "leftovers" are of higher quality than the other's.

Yes, it's crazy, but it just might work!

So Andrei Rublev and Annie Hall are of comparable value, and get removed.

Then Manhattan, and Solaris

Hannah and her Sisters, and The Mirror

Ivanovo Detstvo, and Love and Death

Sleeper, and Stalker

The Sacrifice, and Zelig

And that's it. For my money, Woody's still got two good movies left, Deconstructing Harry and Manhattan Murder Mystery, and one great one, Crimes and Misdemeanors

Rublev's only got his three weakest films remaining, Nostalghia, Steamroller and the Violin, and Tempo Di Viaggio. From what I can glean, none of these films are bad, but there's nothing especially exceptional about any of them.

So Rublev gets a sentimental nod for having "Steamroller" in one of his titles, but this system prefers Woody.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on July 17, 2011, 06:35:08 PM
This is either the most brilliant system of ranking directors that I have ever seen, or the craziest!

No, wait.  It's just the craziest.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on July 17, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
I mean, why not just rate the individual movies on a Rock/Rot/Rule scale?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 17, 2011, 07:21:55 PM
I agree it's the craziest. And yet it seems to work pretty consistently. I used to pit 5 people at a time against one another. If I can find one of those blog posts, I will throw the link up here.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 17, 2011, 07:27:05 PM
I can't find one of the 5-way battle royals; I probably just posted it on Lambdamoo, but here's an example of the sort of fun that could be had.

http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2007/03/07/daryl-hannah-vs-burt-reynolds/ (http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2007/03/07/daryl-hannah-vs-burt-reynolds/)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 17, 2011, 07:35:43 PM
Since it's still my birthday weekend, I am going to go out on a limb and beg you fine people to read my blog, most of which involves just this kind of insane number-based movie analysis, and also contains jokes. Jokes are good, right? http://gaughin.edublogs.org/ (http://gaughin.edublogs.org/)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on August 09, 2011, 06:14:29 PM
If someone recommends Crazy Stupid Love to you, don't speak to that person anymore.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 01, 2011, 11:44:05 PM
Just watched Source Code. It was a lot better than the name would suggest.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on September 02, 2011, 07:23:29 AM
Just watched Source Code. It was a lot better than the name would suggest.

I liked that one too. Lots of people seemed to have a big problem with the coda to the ending, but I thought it was nicely ambiguous.

Attack The Block is really marvellous. In a way you could compare it to Duncan Jones' previous movie, Moon, in that it's a first feature with a low budget but was clearly helmed by a very talented and inventive storyteller with a great eye. It's everything Super 8 should have been but wasn't.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on September 06, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
I saw Red State. Maybe the worst movie ever made. I can wait to hear what Paul Scheer has to say about it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on September 17, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
According to the annoyed sighs and verbal criticisms at the roling of the credits, I was apparently the only one in the theater who liked Meek's Cutoff. I'm a big fan of Reichardt and this change of format made me nervous, but it worked out well. It is one of those movies that grows on you. I saw it on Friday and it's still resonating with me. It was refreshing to see one of these modern western films that didn't set out to capitalize on the beautiful cinematography.

The reaction in my theater was similar. I liked it a lot, though I'm still not sure how I feel about the ending.

Meek's Cutoff SPOILERS ahead.

I just watched this and it's hard for me to be too down on anyone who audibly groaned or complained about the ending.  Reichardt has publicly said that the original ending was scrapped because they ran out of money, but given what I know about the resourcefulness of filmmakers as well as shooting schedules that comment sounds at least partly facetious.  The movie appears to be a study of the events that led each of these characters to shed their preconceptions about gender/race/religion and make the choice to follow the unknown (the Indian). Thus the film considers the actual outcome of that decision and the fate of the characters to be largely irrelevant. If that was the plan I still think the execution of the ending seemed a little half-baked.  The movie is still easy to recommend for the fascinating, unusually naturalistic and grueling portrayal of the journey, which really captures the mundane but deadly dangers such travelers actually faced.

But if you want at least a good idea of what would have happened after the last scene, the movie is based on a real incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meek_Cutoff), and its very title indicates they eventually survived and their trail was named after the buffoonish white male (boo. hiss.) who nearly led them to their deaths.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 18, 2011, 12:05:49 AM
Just saw Drive.  Great stuff.  Ryan Gosling gives a great performance and Ron Perlman's jaw has never been bigger.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on September 18, 2011, 08:04:39 PM
Haven't seen Drive, but looking forward to it. 
Nicolas Winding Refn is weird for me.  I find him so unbearable in interviews ("What would be the last thing anyone would expect me to do? Make a big Hollywood movie" Um, that's kind of how it works, dumdum.) and I don't even like his films that much (I usually really like 3/4 of the movie). But I like the IDEA of his films so much that I consider myself a fan.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on September 20, 2011, 06:01:32 PM
He did a Q&A after the film when I saw it a few weeks ago and casually talked about how he is both dyslexic and colorblind and how he mostly just films things he wants to see, like Gosling in a satin jacket. I thought he was fun.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on September 20, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
He also claims that he didn't learn to read until he was 13. His interview with Jesse Thorn started to get unbearable. He made an assertion that art is like violence and then Jesse asked "how so". You can feel him being taken aback because he wasn't expected to be challenged on his artiste statements.

That said, I thoroughly enjoyed Drive, Bronson and the first Pusher movie (haven't seen the other two). Valhalla Rising was a beautiful tone poem but boring as hell.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on September 21, 2011, 07:40:17 AM
That art/violence thing was such a classic art school formulation. You know, buddy, you can just say you like to film people's heads getting crushed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: yesno on September 21, 2011, 07:48:39 AM
I have now seen most of the summer superhero movies.  From good to worst, I would rank them:

X-Men: First Class (good)
Thor (okay, leaning toward bad)
Captain American (bad, boring)
Green Lantern (really, really bad)

I never want to see another movie about the origin of a superhero, his backstory, and so on.  If you can't make a movie that is just about a superhero's continuing adventures, maybe the character is shit to begin with.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 21, 2011, 08:27:41 AM
For balance, I loved Captain America.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on September 21, 2011, 08:32:09 AM
I never want to see another movie about the origin of a superhero, his backstory, and so on.  If you can't make a movie that is just about a superhero's continuing adventures, maybe the character is shit to begin with.

This is a good point. I never think about the boring, formulaic storyline used for all these movies. I watched the first 20 minutes of Kick-Ass and was never so bored.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: theElizabethanCaller on September 21, 2011, 05:52:14 PM
When I was a younger man, I secretly developed an affinity for a movie called "Class of 1999".  You know where this is going...many years later, I was aghast to discover that not only was this favorite bad film from my youth a sequel, but is, in fact, the sequel to one of Tom's childhood favorites ("Class of 1984").

For a time, I believed that I had imagined the film until my suspicions got the best of me and I started asking around.  Sure enough, my nerdiest friend had seen it too and also possessed an equally secretive love for the movie. 

Who else out there has seen "Class of 1999"?  Or maybe I did imagine it...and maybe I even imagined the friend!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on September 21, 2011, 10:11:55 PM
When I was a younger man, I secretly developed an affinity for a movie called "Class of 1999".  You know where this is going...many years later, I was aghast to discover that not only was this favorite bad film from my youth a sequel, but is, in fact, the sequel to one of Tom's childhood favorites ("Class of 1984").

For a time, I believed that I had imagined the film until my suspicions got the best of me and I started asking around.  Sure enough, my nerdiest friend had seen it too and also possessed an equally secretive love for the movie. 

Who else out there has seen "Class of 1999"?  Or maybe I did imagine it...and maybe I even imagined the friend!

Admittedly, they did not have Google in Elizabethan Times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_of_1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_of_1999)

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: stephen on September 24, 2011, 12:50:27 AM
When I was a younger man, I secretly developed an affinity for a movie called "Class of 1999".  You know where this is going...many years later, I was aghast to discover that not only was this favorite bad film from my youth a sequel, but is, in fact, the sequel to one of Tom's childhood favorites ("Class of 1984").

For a time, I believed that I had imagined the film until my suspicions got the best of me and I started asking around.  Sure enough, my nerdiest friend had seen it too and also possessed an equally secretive love for the movie. 

Who else out there has seen "Class of 1999"?  Or maybe I did imagine it...and maybe I even imagined the friend!

There is indeed.  And Class of 1999 also had a sequel: "Class of 1999 2: The Substitute", starring Step by Step's Sasha Mitchell as an evil cyborg substitute teacher.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on September 25, 2011, 09:42:09 AM
I watched Polanski's The Ghost Writer last night. It was a decent political thriller but if you had just given it to me to watch without knowing anything about it I never would have guessed that it was by a master director or that the lead actor, Ewan MacGregor, was a bankable star.  For those who haven't seen it, it takes place in a weird, science-fictiony alternative universe in which people actually give a shit about war crimes and suborning torture can actually have legal consequences for national leaders.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 25, 2011, 07:35:43 PM
I liked Moneyball.  I especially liked it because Aaron Sorkin dialed down the dialogue a notch, giving the movie some much needed silences and a chance for the characters to be human.

Tonight I plan to watch Marwencol.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on September 25, 2011, 07:39:12 PM
I liked Moneyball.  I especially liked it because Aaron Sorkin dialed down the dialogue a notch, giving the movie some much needed silences and a chance for the characters to be human.

Tonight I plan to watch Marwencol.

I, too, liked Moneyball. I did rather think it unnecessarily long, particularly the ending.

However, I'm under the general opinion that nearly every movie can use a trim of 15 minutes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on September 25, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
I liked Moneyball.  I especially liked it because Aaron Sorkin dialed down the dialogue a notch, giving the movie some much needed silences and a chance for the characters to be human.

Tonight I plan to watch Marwencol.

Moneyball is great.  As for the screenplay, Steven Zaillian's draft was fantastic. I was a fan of the book, and I could not believe the resulting screenplay adaptation was that good.  It was floating around the Internet circa-2009 when the the Lipstick City overlords pulled the plug a week before filming due to their displeasure with Soderbergh's rewrites. He planned to have animated Bill James segments! Insanity. He also intended to use all the actual players. And the new ending involved Scott Hatteberg and Morganna The Kissing Bandit getting struck by lightning.  The Oakland Coliseum was built atop an ancient Indian burial ground.

Zaillian's draft did have more Bill James stuff -- the film would often cut away to him explaining the statistical analysis material.  Sorkin wisely cut that stuff out and got it all in via the Peter Brand character. (Demetri Martin was going to play that part prior to the plug pulling.)  There are definitely Sorkin touches/changes in the final version, but Zaillian definitely deserves a lot of credit.  There are scenes in the film that are essentially untouched from his draft.  Sorkin has a great chance to win back-to-back Oscars for Best Adapted Screenplay, although Zaillian may defeat himself/Sorkin with his solo adaptation of The Girl with the Back Bathroom Area Dragon Tattoo.

Pitt and Hill delivered their best-ever performances.  PSH killed in his brief screen time as Arthur Howe.  In a recent interview, director Bennett Miller revealed that there was a strong, post-turnaround Beane-Howe scene that he liked a lot, but cut to increase the pace in a film that was running pretty long.  I agree with woodandiron that it could have been trimmed a bit. 

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on September 25, 2011, 09:48:19 PM
He did a Q&A after the film when I saw it a few weeks ago and casually talked about how he is both dyslexic and colorblind and how he mostly just films things he wants to see, like Gosling in a satin jacket. I thought he was fun.

Yea, who am I to criticize? Forgot that I try not to shoot my mouth off about people that are actually doing good stuff for things I interpret as annoying at one particular moment. I'll probably really eat crow when I see Drive and love it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on September 25, 2011, 10:40:07 PM
I am sort of interested in knowing what Art Howe thinks of both the book and the movie. But not enough to look it up.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on September 25, 2011, 10:48:47 PM

Moneyball is great.  As for the screenplay, Steven Zaillian's draft was fantastic. I was a fan of the book...


Same here. It is one of my favorite books ever.  If someone told me back when I was reading it that Hollywood was going to make a half-decent film based on it and that it was not going to be a documentary, I would have asked them who they were and why did they feel compelled to travel back in time to tell me that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on September 25, 2011, 10:49:20 PM
He did a Q&A after the film when I saw it a few weeks ago and casually talked about how he is both dyslexic and colorblind and how he mostly just films things he wants to see, like Gosling in a satin jacket. I thought he was fun.

Yea, who am I to criticize? Forgot that I try not to shoot my mouth off about people that are actually doing good stuff for things I interpret as annoying at one particular moment. I'll probably really eat crow when I see Drive and love it.

It turned out to be a big disappointment for me. Somehow I got myself excited despite the fact that I didn't like the only other Refn film I've seen (Valhalla Rising). It's nice to look at and the few setpiece scenes (the elevator fight, the opening sequence and the motel scene) are beautifully conceived, but the narrative is super-hacky and only made interesting by the fact that the main character (spoiler) turns out to be kind of a psycho. However this idea is left completely undeveloped and in the end just seemed like intellectual window dressing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: theElizabethanCaller on September 27, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
When I was a younger man, I secretly developed an affinity for a movie called "Class of 1999".  You know where this is going...many years later, I was aghast to discover that not only was this favorite bad film from my youth a sequel, but is, in fact, the sequel to one of Tom's childhood favorites ("Class of 1984").

For a time, I believed that I had imagined the film until my suspicions got the best of me and I started asking around.  Sure enough, my nerdiest friend had seen it too and also possessed an equally secretive love for the movie. 

Who else out there has seen "Class of 1999"?  Or maybe I did imagine it...and maybe I even imagined the friend!

There is indeed.  And Class of 1999 also had a sequel: "Class of 1999 2: The Substitute", starring Step by Step's Sasha Mitchell as an evil cyborg substitute teacher.

AMAZING!  Wait are you serious?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
If only there was a way to find out
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 27, 2011, 04:16:48 PM
This is what I watched during the week I was computerless (in order):

Requiem
Duplicity
Terminator Salvation
Adam's Apples
Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist
Pan's Labyrinth
The Band Visits
The Visitor
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Boys and Girl from County Clare
Day Watch
Days of Darkness
Naturally Native
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Joe's Palace
Capturing Mary
Roadkill
Whatever Happened to Harold Smith?
Schultze Gets the Blues
The Memory of a Killer
The Best of Youth
Confetti
Volver
Hot Fuzz


Yes, almost all my time is spare.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on September 27, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
Do you think I'd enjoy Pan's Labyrinth?

Did you?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 27, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
I have no idea whether you would like it.  I didn't precisely enjoy it, but it held my attention.  It was quite brutal at times and pretty sad and had some neat, creepy imagery.  I don't regret watching it, unlike some of the others on the list (there were a number of duds).

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on September 27, 2011, 11:08:42 PM
It was quite brutal at times and pretty sad and had some neat, creepy imagery. 

Thanks for the input, Sarah.

Sounds too much like the Republican debate for me.


Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on September 28, 2011, 12:01:29 PM
This is what I watched during the week I was computerless (in order):

Requiem
Duplicity
Terminator Salvation
Adam's Apples
Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist
Pan's Labyrinth
The Band Visits
The Visitor
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Boys and Girl from County Clare
Day Watch
Days of Darkness
Naturally Native
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Joe's Palace
Capturing Mary
Roadkill
Whatever Happened to Harold Smith?
Schultze Gets the Blues
The Memory of a Killer
The Best of Youth
Confetti
Volver
Hot Fuzz


Yes, almost all my time is spare.

Standouts? Especially bad ones? You had mentioned The Memory of a Killer on Twitter, and it sounds like something worth tracking down.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 28, 2011, 12:46:28 PM
BAD

Duplicity
Terminator Salvation
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
(manipulative tripe)

BLAH

Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist (not awful but so twee)
The Visitor (well-intentioned and -acted but somehow tiresome)
Naturally Native (points for good intentions but heavy-handed, cluttered, and badly acted)
Joe's Palace (some charm and lovely Michael Gambon but tedious)
Capturing Mary (some decent acting but even more tedious than the last, to which it is the sequel)

FAVORITES (which is not to say without flaw)

Adam's Apples
Pan's Labyrinth 
The Band Visits
Day Watch
Days of Darkness
Roadkill
Schultze Gets the Blues
The Memory of a Killer


BEST BY A WIDE MARGIN

The Best of Youth

ALL RIGHT/PLEASANT ENOUGH/ENTERTAINING

Requiem
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
(it hit the spot at the moment; I might have found it too dumb in another mood)
Boys and Girl from County Clare
Whatever Happened to Harold Smith?
Confetti
Volver
Hot Fuzz



Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Big Plastic Head on September 29, 2011, 01:57:19 AM

BLAH

The Visitor (well-intentioned and -acted but somehow tiresome)


I agree with you on this one. Many REALLY loved it but boy was I luke-warm on it.

And, I know there many people on here who do not like Del Toro but I too liked Pan's Labyrinth.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 29, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
Yeah, it and The Boy in the Striped Pajamas annoyed me the most, because I knew so many had gone gaga for them.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on September 29, 2011, 09:42:04 AM
Melancholia was pretty uneventful. I've never been into either of the female leads. I don't really even have much to say about it. Can't see it meaning a whole lot to anyone.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on September 29, 2011, 01:29:23 PM

BLAH

The Visitor (well-intentioned and -acted but somehow tiresome)


I agree with you on this one. Many REALLY loved it but boy was I luke-warm on it.

And, I know there many people on here who do not like Del Toro but I too liked Pan's Labyrinth.

I really like Del Toro. Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone are modern horror masterpieces in my opinion. I didn't like Cronos but that might have been due to the really shitty herky jerky version (every other frame seemed to have been removed) on Netflix streaming. The Hellboy movies are fun. I really wished he could have gotten the HP Lovecraft movie off the ground.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 29, 2011, 04:18:54 PM
Question: Why do people think Kat Dennings is a good actress?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on September 29, 2011, 05:27:29 PM
Question: Why do people think Kat Dennings is a good actress?


I think there's a thread elsewhere on your favorites list that will answer this question.  Not for me, of course, I'm a gentleman.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on September 29, 2011, 05:53:30 PM
So it really is the bazoombas?  That's what I was wondering.  To me, she seems merely a more wooden and more pneumatic Lizzy Caplan (another I think is overrated).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on September 29, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Just watched Source Code. It was a lot better than the name would suggest.

I don't know if you listen to the Doug Loves Movies podcast, but Paul F. Tompkins did a thing about Jeffrey Wright's performance in the movie that ruined both the movie and Jeffrey Wright for me forever (both are things I like, BTW).
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Yannick on October 03, 2011, 03:04:25 PM
Question: Why do people think Kat Dennings is a good actress?

She's fine. I think she can be both sympathetic and being that more acidic-type character. And she's good at being those.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Pregnant Pause on October 03, 2011, 03:39:50 PM
BEST BY A WIDE MARGIN

The Best of Youth

Yes!  The Best of Youth is one of my favorite movies/mini-series ever, and I know very few people who have seen it. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 03, 2011, 04:31:56 PM
As a HUGE fan of You Can Count On Me, I'm very disappointed that Kenneth Lonnergan's followup Margaret sat on the shelf for five + years, stars Anna Paquin, and doesn't sound like it's very good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 03, 2011, 04:56:00 PM
Just watched Source Code. It was a lot better than the name would suggest.

I don't know if you listen to the Doug Loves Movies podcast, but Paul F. Tompkins did a thing about Jeffrey Wright's performance in the movie that ruined both the movie and Jeffrey Wright for me forever (both are things I like, BTW).

Uh oh.  I need to listen to that! I don't think Jeffrey Wright deserves an Oscar or anything. I thought his performance was over-the-top in a comic book villain kind of way and I liked that they did it that way.  But lord knows that PFT is one convincing guy, so I suspect he's going to ruin the movie for me too!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: moonshake on October 03, 2011, 05:32:12 PM
As a HUGE fan of You Can Count On Me, I'm very disappointed that Kenneth Lonnergan's followup Margaret sat on the shelf for five + years, stars Anna Paquin, and doesn't sound like it's very good.
That's sad to hear. I really love You Can Count On Me too. I'll still try to watch it if it plays anywhere near.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on October 03, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
As a HUGE fan of You Can Count On Me, I'm very disappointed that Kenneth Lonnergan's followup Margaret sat on the shelf for five + years, stars Anna Paquin, and doesn't sound like it's very good.
That's sad to hear. I really love You Can Count On Me too. I'll still try to watch it if it plays anywhere near.

I was disappointed to read some of the negative reviews, but critic Mike D'Angelo (http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/)'s recent capsule has me excited for Margaret (I'm also a huge fan of YCCOM):

Margaret (2011, Kenneth Lonergan): 80
So sad that this became such a post-production nightmare -- not just because we probably lost the three-hour masterpiece Lonergan intended, but because now people are having trouble distinguishing (or are just not bothering to distinguish) the ways in which the film is kind of a mess from the ways in which it deliberately employs messiness as a worldview. Practically every scene has half a dozen things happening at once, some of them irrelevant; entire conversations exist solely to demonstrate the difficulty of navigating competing agendas. At the center of it all is one of the least romantic or sentimental portraits of adolescence ever filmed, embodied by Paquin in a courageously off-putting performance that never once flinches from Lisa's misdirected self-absorption. Some folks have complained about the various shouting matches (between Lisa and her mom, during classroom discussions), but one of the things Lonergan so expertly depicts here is people not listening, too focused on their own narrow perspective to pay attention to anything else (which is of course what causes the accident in the first place). He's made great strides as a filmmaker, too -- nothing theatrical about the dazzling cut from Joan having her entire life summarily dismissed by a pissy Lisa to Joan having to hold her opening line until the audience stops applauding her entrance (and then a brisk cut elsewhere before she speaks). I could go on forever citing things I adored: Janney snapping at the bystanders struggling to apply a tourniquet to her severed leg ("Are they doctors? Then get them the fuck away from me!"); an awkward ritual deflowering straight out of Breillat ("You sound insane"); then-unknown Rosemarie DeWitt's epic struggle between suspicion and solicitousness; Lisa firing off a blunt exit line and then having the moment killed when not one but two deadbolts prevent her from swiftly exiting; etc. etc. etc. Only in the last 20 minutes or so does the movie really kind of lose its way -- partly because of the scenes involving Matt Damon, whose character never really works as intended (he seems weirdly lost); partly because Lonergan does what I was praying he wouldn't do and actually has Lisa state aloud her true reason for persecuting the bus driver, which was already abundantly clear to any viewer with an ounce of perception and is the kind of Grand Underlying Behavioral Dysfunction that needs to remain unspoken, lest it seem too tidy. Also, the final scene, though apropos, didn't quite wallop me -- I wanted to be crying with them, and wasn't. But maybe next time. What worries me about Margaret's troubled path is whether or not there'll be a next time for Lonergan. He's too brilliant to lose.


Also, a friend of mine e-mailed me today to say that while he's a bit less enthused about the film than D'Angelo, he still considers it to be one of the best films of "2011."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 03, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
As a HUGE fan of You Can Count On Me, I'm very disappointed that Kenneth Lonnergan's followup Margaret sat on the shelf for five + years, stars Anna Paquin, and doesn't sound like it's very good.
That's sad to hear. I really love You Can Count On Me too. I'll still try to watch it if it plays anywhere near.

I was disappointed to read some of the negative reviews, but critic Mike D'Angelo (http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/)'s recent capsule has me excited for Margaret (I'm also a huge fan of YCCOM):

Margaret (2011, Kenneth Lonergan): 80
So sad that this became such a post-production nightmare -- not just because we probably lost the three-hour masterpiece Lonergan intended, but because now people are having trouble distinguishing (or are just not bothering to distinguish) the ways in which the film is kind of a mess from the ways in which it deliberately employs messiness as a worldview. Practically every scene has half a dozen things happening at once, some of them irrelevant; entire conversations exist solely to demonstrate the difficulty of navigating competing agendas. At the center of it all is one of the least romantic or sentimental portraits of adolescence ever filmed, embodied by Paquin in a courageously off-putting performance that never once flinches from Lisa's misdirected self-absorption. Some folks have complained about the various shouting matches (between Lisa and her mom, during classroom discussions), but one of the things Lonergan so expertly depicts here is people not listening, too focused on their own narrow perspective to pay attention to anything else (which is of course what causes the accident in the first place). He's made great strides as a filmmaker, too -- nothing theatrical about the dazzling cut from Joan having her entire life summarily dismissed by a pissy Lisa to Joan having to hold her opening line until the audience stops applauding her entrance (and then a brisk cut elsewhere before she speaks). I could go on forever citing things I adored: Janney snapping at the bystanders struggling to apply a tourniquet to her severed leg ("Are they doctors? Then get them the fuck away from me!"); an awkward ritual deflowering straight out of Breillat ("You sound insane"); then-unknown Rosemarie DeWitt's epic struggle between suspicion and solicitousness; Lisa firing off a blunt exit line and then having the moment killed when not one but two deadbolts prevent her from swiftly exiting; etc. etc. etc. Only in the last 20 minutes or so does the movie really kind of lose its way -- partly because of the scenes involving Matt Damon, whose character never really works as intended (he seems weirdly lost); partly because Lonergan does what I was praying he wouldn't do and actually has Lisa state aloud her true reason for persecuting the bus driver, which was already abundantly clear to any viewer with an ounce of perception and is the kind of Grand Underlying Behavioral Dysfunction that needs to remain unspoken, lest it seem too tidy. Also, the final scene, though apropos, didn't quite wallop me -- I wanted to be crying with them, and wasn't. But maybe next time. What worries me about Margaret's troubled path is whether or not there'll be a next time for Lonergan. He's too brilliant to lose.


Also, a friend of mine e-mailed me today to say that while he's a bit less enthused about the film than D'Angelo, he still considers it to be one of the best films of "2011."

This makes me happy. I am also a big fan of You Can Count On Me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on October 03, 2011, 07:10:04 PM
Just watched Source Code. It was a lot better than the name would suggest.

I don't know if you listen to the Doug Loves Movies podcast, but Paul F. Tompkins did a thing about Jeffrey Wright's performance in the movie that ruined both the movie and Jeffrey Wright for me forever (both are things I like, BTW).

Uh oh.  I need to listen to that! I don't think Jeffrey Wright deserves an Oscar or anything. I thought his performance was over-the-top in a comic book villain kind of way and I liked that they did it that way.  But lord knows that PFT is one convincing guy, so I suspect he's going to ruin the movie for me too!

It's worth hearing. I can't remember which episode it's on, but I remember it was one of the 3 or 4 episodes recorded at Bumbershoot. It's PFT, Eugene Mirman, and someone else.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on October 06, 2011, 12:40:58 AM
Creepy puppets anyone? 

(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7108/deadofnight.jpg)

Here's a classic segment (http://tinyurl.com/3u7apa2) from the British horror film Dead of Night (1945)

It's split into 10 min. chunks, but the finale makes it worth the effort  :)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 06, 2011, 01:12:03 PM


Margaret (2011, Kenneth Lonergan): 80
What worries me about Margaret's troubled path is whether or not there'll be a next time for Lonergan. He's too brilliant to lose.




True indeed.  I'll see it for sure, keeping those things in mind and hoping Anna Paquin's potentially horrendous presence on the screen is serving the story.

Speaking of movies where we never got to see the full cut of, (and I know this might get me excommunicated but) I always wished I could see the four-hour cut of All The Pretty Horses.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 08, 2011, 02:45:41 AM
I saw Moneyball today and loved it.  I kept thinking throughout it, "I think I owe Dave From Knoxville an apology."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on October 08, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
I saw Moneyball today and loved it.  I kept thinking throughout it, "I think I owe Dave From Knoxville an apology."

Ouch! Did I sell it so hard you backed off of it? Apologies. I will even take back all the "damn yous" I have been dropping on you on Facebook. GO CARDS
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on October 08, 2011, 04:43:02 PM
I saw Moneyball today and loved it.  I kept thinking throughout it, "I think I owe Dave From Knoxville an apology."

Ouch! Did I sell it so hard you backed off of it? Apologies. I will even take back all the "damn yous" I have been dropping on you on Facebook. GO CARDS

No, I mean for denigrating your system of evaluating players, even though it was the mildest of denigrating.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 02, 2011, 08:10:07 AM
Saw 30 Minutes or Less which was pretty unfunny. I think Jesse Eisenberg has worn out his welcome. I see him as a young Woody Allen if Woody Allen was charmingless and a complete asshole.

The only actor playing a role that they haven't played over and over was Swarsdon(sp) which was good at times. But MAN Danny McBride is a whole lotta suck.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Greggulator on November 02, 2011, 09:22:28 AM
THINGS I SAW RECENTLY:

1) The Trip: This movie RULES. Coogan's expectedly awesome but that other dude -- I haven't seen him anything before and he's pretty incredible. A buddy of mine from work is a Brit and swears by him. The Rob dude also apparently went to the same high school (or whatever they call it across the pond -- I should really know these things) as Catherine Zeta Jones who now magically lists her age as three years younger than him despite growing up right near each other. I can't stop saying, "It tastes like a childhood garden." I doubly like this since I'm subjected to non-stop food-related shows and blogs courtesy of Mr. Ulator.

2) Moneyball: As a movie, it's pretty great. It's well-acted, Jonah Hill really delivered in his first serious role. But as a baseball nerd, I can't stress enough how full of shit the film and book both are. Scott Hatteberg was a great story (and indeed did hit the home run in the legendary 20th win game -- that was accurate to what happened in the game itself, and Billy Beane did never watch games in person but did watch that one. But for him to be cast as the savior of the A's that season is a tad ridiculous -- he had a good year and did get on base a lot, but he was a contributing factor. The movie and book both conveniently forget that Tim Hudson, Barry Zito and Mark Mulder were three of the top 10 pitchers in the AL that year. Barry Zito won the CY Young and Miguel Tejada was the team's MVP -- nary a mention of that in either version, which is complete bullshit and misleads the multitudes of non-baseball fans who read/saw both (and helped both Michael Lewis and Billy Beane end up with fat wallets.) I also loved short, squat Jeremy Giambi -- in real life, he's a musclebound, steroid-using creep.

The movie also trashes Art Howe. By all accounts, Howe's a really great guy. And by a lot of accounts, he was totally and unfairly treated like dirt by Billy Beane who completely marginalized him.

So I am completely torn on that film. It is pretty amazing they took what's essentially a book about statistical analysis and made it into a film which might grab a few Oscar nominations. But it's accuracy is so misleading that it's somewhat revolting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on November 02, 2011, 09:56:48 AM
I enjoyed Unguarded (2011, Jonathan Hock) on ESPN last night.  I was familiar with Herren (mainly from his presence in that highly touted Big East class with Iverson and Felipe Lopez), but I didn't know that much about his story.  It's powerful stuff.

Quite a change of pace from last week's Leave Home-style Jeff Feuerzeig effort.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on November 02, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
I saw Martha Marcy May Marlene this past weekend. 

The Olsen sister is very good and will be a fine actress.  John Hawkes is great in it as well. (You may remember him from Winter's Bone, which you FOT went gaga for.)

I thought the movie overall was just OK, though it was shot well. It sort of seem undecided about whether it was a run-of-the-mill thriller or a deeper movie contrasting a cult and a modern American family.

My verdict: save your dough and wait for it on the small screen.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Greggulator on November 02, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
I enjoyed Unguarded (2011, Jonathan Hock) on ESPN last night.  I was familiar with Herren (mainly from his presence in that highly touted Big East class with Iverson and Felipe Lopez), but I didn't know that much about his story.  It's powerful stuff.

Quite a change of pace from last week's Leave Home-style Jeff Feuerzeig effort.

Unguarded was spectacular. Herren just also wrote an autbiography which came out a few months ago. It's really great -- a lot of the book was covered in the documentary but with more space there are more details he can get into. The book written about him called Fall River Dreams is one of my 10 favorite books I've ever read.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 02, 2011, 10:39:18 AM
I saw Martha Marcy May Marlene this past weekend. 

The Olsen sister is very good and will be a fine actress.  John Hawkes is great in it as well. (You may remember him from Winter's Bone, which you FOT went gaga for.)

I thought the movie overall was just OK, though it was shot well. It sort of seem undecided about whether it was a run-of-the-mill thriller or a deeper movie contrasting a cult and a modern American family.

My verdict: save your dough and wait for it on the small screen.

Thanks for the review. Yeah I'll wait for it. I was going to see it this weekend but I hated Winter's Bone and I feel like this may leave me with the same blah feeling. Lately I just haven't had the patience for going out to movies. Not to be a jerk but audiences now are just too much. I've ruled out Sundays to avoid the older crowd and Saturdays are packed. Anyway, those Landmark theaters are like NPR come to life.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 02, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
I watched the trailer for Tyrannosaur the other day and cried. AT THE TRAILER.  This is a first.  I'm off to the Denver Starz film fest today where I intend to see Like Crazy, Martha Marcy May Marlene, the aforementioned Tyrannosaur, Sandman (I have a short film paired with this one), Green, and Outrage (a Japanese gangster movie that looks pretty intense), and The Descendants.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 02, 2011, 12:51:39 PM
I watched the trailer for Tyrannosaur the other day and cried. AT THE TRAILER.  This is a first.  I'm off to the Denver Starz film fest today where I intend to see Like Crazy, Martha Marcy May Marlene, the aforementioned Tyrannosaur, Sandman (I have a short film paired with this one), Green, and Outrage (a Japanese gangster movie that looks pretty intense), and The Descendants.

Paddy Considine is in EVERYTHING. I'm interested to see something he directs. I bet somewhere in the film we'll see his head peep up on frame just so he can get an acting credit.

p.s.- I looked at his imdb and he was only in two movies in 2011 and one in 2010 so I gues he isn't in a lot . I don't know why but it seems like he is in a majority of the British movies I see.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on November 02, 2011, 08:19:20 PM
I finally got around to seeing Bridesmaids. Overall I think I liked it but man, I felt like the movie moved at a glacial pace.

Also, I wanted an explanation of how an obviously Irish man became a state trooper in America.

Edited: Also, more Tim Heidecker would have been great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 03, 2011, 06:32:20 AM
Anybody seen Le Havre yet, it looks fantastic?


http://youtu.be/BpAFPgNyxmc (http://youtu.be/BpAFPgNyxmc)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 03, 2011, 08:50:51 AM
I finally got around to seeing Bridesmaids. Overall I think I liked it but man, I felt like the movie moved at a glacial pace.

That's the best comedy to come out recently. I think you can trust Paul Feig for a good to great output.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: James W on November 04, 2011, 08:02:54 AM
I finally got around to seeing Bridesmaids. Overall I think I liked it but man, I felt like the movie moved at a glacial pace.
...
Edited: Also, more Tim Heidecker would have been great.
Certainly: very funny, but (like most of the feature-length ApatowCo product) in dire need of editing. Although, going by some of the promos, there were whole plotlines excised. Imagine!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 04, 2011, 09:57:32 AM
I finally got around to seeing Bridesmaids. Overall I think I liked it but man, I felt like the movie moved at a glacial pace.
...
Edited: Also, more Tim Heidecker would have been great.
Certainly: very funny, but (like most of the feature-length ApatowCo product) in dire need of editing. Although, going by some of the promos, there were whole plotlines excised. Imagine!

I read Tim Heidecker's whole The Hangover-style bachelor party, cold feet and suicide attempt plotlines were actually cut out only a week before the premier.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on November 06, 2011, 09:12:04 AM
Was 2 for 2 with new movies yesterday.

Le Havre, the new Aki Kaurismaki fillm - This is an entertaining, warm and funny film made by a cynic (if interviews are to be believed), which is not to say it's dishonest. Rather, both Kaurismaki and the audience know full well that's it's not a "realistic" depiction of immigration, as (mostly) everyone in this film tries to do the right thing, but that knowledge is freeing rather than distracting. Might be the best comedy of the year.

Melancholia - At different times I've admired, laughed at, laughed with, been disgusted by, bored by, transfixed by parts of every Lars Von Trier movie I've ever seen... but THIS. It's never come together like this before.  Von Trier takes the premise of a clinically depressed person finding peace with the destruction of Earth to its hilt, turning it into a grand cosmic reckoning. I rented this in HD from Amazon but I think I need to see it in the theater, even an average one, for the final 2 minutes alone.

To be sure, most people will probably complain about and mock this film same as they do every Von Trier film, ESPECIALLY the wedding sequence, which you'll no doubt hear is boring and unrealistic. Another faction will be quick to remind you how personally superior they are to the walking public relations disaster that is Von Trier himself.  But in my opinion, this is one of the greatest cinematic achievements in some time.  It reminds me of Synecdoche, New York in that tries to vividly depict a mental state that many are aggressively unwilling to understand (the Kiefer Sutherland character might as well be a surrogate for them). I think Kirsten Dunst pretty much nailed the role but I suspect won't win too many awards to reflect it. It was also surprisingly jarring seeing Keifer in a non-Jack Bauer context again, particularly since his voice sounds like he's been swallowing whiskey-coated swords.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on November 06, 2011, 10:48:17 AM
La Havre is one of few new releases I've been looking forward to. Chris L just cinched it.

Watched American Juggalo last night. I was disappointed that it wasn't a fell length as I has assumed and just a "parking lot" deal.

Watched New Jack City this weekend for the first time in a looooooong time. Ouch. It's comically bad and that is not how I remembered it. Worth rewatching for the mafia drive-by where the one dude just stands there outside the cafe and the red and white checked tablecloth and during the hail of bullets he wiggles his arms, edit to another pov, back to the arm wiggle. The best.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on November 06, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
But MAN Danny McBride is a whole lotta suck.

Rarely has such truth been typed...

I saw Martha Marcy May Marlene this past weekend. 

The Olsen sister is very good and will be a fine actress.  John Hawkes is great in it as well. (You may remember him from Winter's Bone, which you FOT went gaga for.)

Or as Sol, the co-owner of the hardware store in "Deadwood"...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Martin on November 06, 2011, 11:15:09 AM
I watched the trailer for Tyrannosaur the other day and cried. AT THE TRAILER.  This is a first.

Tyrannosaur is very good. It's incredibly dark and miserable, just unrelenting -- but very good if you can deal with that. Reminded me a lot of Nil by Mouth. The performances are top, top, top notch. (I will say this: if you're a person that can't stand watching animals getting harmed, you might not go for this. That's not really a spoiler, just a warning.)

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 06, 2011, 03:58:12 PM
But MAN Danny McBride is a whole lotta suck.

Rarely has such truth been typed...


I could not disagree more, but then I haven't seen 30 Minutes or Less. Eastbound and Down makes me laugh more than almost anything else.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 06, 2011, 04:26:01 PM
Was 2 for 2 with new movies yesterday.

Le Havre, the new Aki Kaurismaki fillm - This is an entertaining, warm and funny film made by a cynic (if interviews are to be believed), which is not to say it's dishonest. Rather, both Kaurismaki and the audience know full well that's it's not a "realistic" depiction of immigration, as (mostly) everyone in this film tries to do the right thing, but that knowledge is freeing rather than distracting. Might be the best comedy of the year.

Melancholia - At different times I've admired, laughed at, laughed with, been disgusted by, bored by, transfixed by parts of every Lars Von Trier movie I've ever seen... but THIS. It's never come together like this before.  Von Trier takes the premise of a clinically depressed person finding peace with the destruction of Earth to its hilt, turning it into a grand cosmic reckoning. I rented this in HD from Amazon but I think I need to see it in the theater, even an average one, for the final 2 minutes alone.

To be sure, most people will probably complain about and mock this film same as they do every Von Trier film, ESPECIALLY the wedding sequence, which you'll no doubt hear is boring and unrealistic. Another faction will be quick to remind you how personally superior they are to the walking public relations disaster that is Von Trier himself.  But in my opinion, this is one of the greatest cinematic achievements in some time.  It reminds me of Synecdoche, New York in that tries to vividly depict a mental state that many are aggressively unwilling to understand (the Kiefer Sutherland character might as well be a surrogate for them). I think Kirsten Dunst pretty much nailed the role but I suspect won't win too many awards to reflect it. It was also surprisingly jarring seeing Keifer in a non-Jack Bauer context again, particularly since his voice sounds like he's been swallowing whiskey-coated swords.

Agreed on most everything.  The final shot is so perfect.  I had some problems with what I interpreted his message as, but liked the movie a lot.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on November 06, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
But MAN Danny McBride is a whole lotta suck.

Rarely has such truth been typed...


I could not disagree more, but then I haven't seen 30 Minutes or Less. Eastbound and Down makes me laugh more than almost anything else.
I thought Foot Fist Way was a great film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Boogdish on November 07, 2011, 09:52:43 AM
McBride does really well in smaller sidekick type roles like in Hot Rod and Pineapple Express.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 07, 2011, 11:06:15 AM
McBride does really well in smaller sidekick type roles like in Hot Rod and Pineapple Express.

I can agree with that. But when I think of one-role actors, he comes to mind. His characters have that dumb pompousness that I can't stand. A lot like dumb Will Ferrell characters. I liked him in the early David Gordon Green stuff and that's about it. Is that too film feek douchey?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 07, 2011, 07:09:39 PM
I watched the trailer for Tyrannosaur the other day and cried. AT THE TRAILER.  This is a first.

Tyrannosaur is very good. It's incredibly dark and miserable, just unrelenting -- but very good if you can deal with that. Reminded me a lot of Nil by Mouth. The performances are top, top, top notch. (I will say this: if you're a person that can't stand watching animals getting harmed, you might not go for this. That's not really a spoiler, just a warning.)

Yup, this was brutal. But very good.  That's a very valid warning above, but what an image, huh Martin?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 09, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
I really don't get the appeal of Danny McBride at all.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 13, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
I finally saw The Killing this afternoon.  Damn that was good.

Two stand-out moments for me:

-The shot of the two G-men approaching through the airport doors.
-The shot of the gun goon from below with "bad guy" shooting targets flanking him.

But the whole thing was so tight.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 13, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
The Killing is great. Sterling Hayden and Elisha Cook Jr. in the same movie = automatic win for me.

I wish they'd either left out the narration or gotten someone less Dragnet-sounding to do it, though.

Have you seen Paths of Glory? It's Kubrick's next movie, and the one where you really see him start to turn into Stanley Kubrick.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 13, 2011, 11:19:17 PM
The Killing is great. Sterling Hayden and Elisha Cook Jr. in the same movie = automatic win for me.

I wish they'd either left out the narration or gotten someone less Dragnet-sounding to do it, though.

Have you seen Paths of Glory? It's Kubrick's next movie, and the one where you really see him start to turn into Stanley Kubrick.

Yeah, the narration was minus. It might have been better if it was used more consistently or not at all. But it just seemed to pop up occasionally and then seemed to disappear half way through the movie.

Have not seen Paths of Glory yet, but it's on my short list.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on November 15, 2011, 04:04:00 PM
This might be blasphemy considering its place in American movie history but I just watched Harvey and didn't like it at all. Jimmy Stewart has a great performance, of course but found the movie to be pretty hollow. I feel I must be missing something but I found almost no sub-text to the damn thing. It was literally just people dealing with Jimmy Stewart having an imaginary friend. Wacky hijinks ensue.

Anyone have a similar reaction? Or opposite reaction?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on November 15, 2011, 04:22:31 PM
I don't think it has a particularly important place in movie history.  People seem to have fond memories of it, but it was directed by a nobody, based on a dumb play, and there are about a hundred Stewart performances as good or better.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on November 17, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
I liked Martha Marcy May Marlene pretty well having walked into the theater with no idea what the movie was about. I've read a lot of people complaining that...

SPOILERS

...it's become fashionable for writers to just employ the abrupt blackout screen when they don't know how to end a movie (same criticism as Sopranos), but I don't know where else that movie would have gone. A showdown with the cult members? I was happy just feeling that tension at the end and imagining the rest. I was confused, though, when she heard rocks on the roof whether the cult had located her after the phonecall she'd made. Also wasn't sure whose SUV she smashed.

/SPOILERS
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on November 18, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Asphalt Jungle makes for a great double bill with The Killers ... although I don't know anyone who watches 2 movies in a row ;)

Classic Jimmy Stewart related, I don't really like Anatomy of a Murder.  Too dated for me.  The courtroom drama isn't worthy of Law and Order, and I don't buy Jimmy as a bad seed.  Also, "panties" + uproarious laughter = SMH. 

I did enjoy Preminger's lesser seen Where the Sidewalk Ends.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 19, 2011, 12:02:12 AM
I saw The Descendants tonight. It was great and heartbreaking. I haven't seen such an emotionally draining movie since Diving Bell and the Butterfly. Much recommended though, Payne is a master.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 19, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
I saw The Descendants tonight. It was great and heartbreaking. I haven't seen such an emotionally draining movie since Diving Bell and the Butterfly. Much recommended though, Payne is a master.

I was at the Denver Film Fest a week and a half ago and chose The Dish And The Spoon over seeing The Descendants.  I chose very poorly.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on November 19, 2011, 06:21:22 PM
Anyone know how I can see "The Real Rocky"? I sort of got the impression from the Jeff Fuerzig interview that it would be on Netflix or iTunes already, but it seems not to be.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: snacoman on November 19, 2011, 07:06:43 PM
I thought I heard him mention that it would be on iTunes soon after the ESPN airing. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 25, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
Just watched Martha Marcy I think the thing I walked away with was never listen to jam bands.                                Creepiest moment: John Hawes writes love song for girl he just raped.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 26, 2011, 12:06:42 AM
Just watched Martha Marcy I think the thing I walked away with was never listen to jam bands.                                Creepiest moment: John Hawes writes love song for girl he just raped.

Hey dumdum, it's Hawkes, and we generally do a SPOILERS warning before talking about shit that transpires in movies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormod on November 26, 2011, 12:37:38 AM
To be fair, Ebert and Berardinelli mentioned the spoiler in their reviews of Martha Marcy May Marlene. And Patrick's motives are pretty evident from the get-go -- the spoiler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape) was inevitable.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 26, 2011, 01:32:12 AM
Just watched Martha Marcy I think the thing I walked away with was never listen to jam bands.                                Creepiest moment: John Hawes writes love song for girl he just raped.

Hey dumdum, it's Hawkes, and we generally do a SPOILERS warning before talking about shit that transpires in movies.

I usually just do spoilers for endings, I just saved you 10 bucks.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 26, 2011, 01:47:37 AM
Fair enough.  My apologies.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on November 26, 2011, 05:14:09 AM
Fair enough.  My apologies.


Sorry if i spoiled anything for you,  but its really not a bad movie.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Greggulator on November 26, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
The Muppets was great and everything I hoped it would be. It was really true to the original style of the movie and they did a great job of adjusting their tone to our current cynical pop culture. I will admit to bawling during Rainbow Connection. The only thing it was missing was a Steve Martin cameo. I hope it catches on with youngsters of today bcause the Muppets were such a great thing to have as your introduction into pop culture.

Question: Was Animal more based on Keith Moon or Dino from the Murder Junkies?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on November 26, 2011, 12:02:43 PM
Question: Was Animal more based on Keith Moon or Dino from the Murder Junkies?

It depends on the amount of clothing he wears while performing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on November 26, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
The Muppets was great and everything I hoped it would be. It was really true to the original style of the movie and they did a great job of adjusting their tone to our current cynical pop culture. I will admit to bawling during Rainbow Connection. The only thing it was missing was a Steve Martin cameo. I hope it catches on with youngsters of today bcause the Muppets were such a great thing to have as your introduction into pop culture.

I'm somewhat curious about "The Muppets". I quite liked the original "The Muppet Movie" when I was a kid, but haven't seen it since then. I'm guessing the cornball humor they specialize in wouldn't age well with me. Plus I just don't have the nostalgia for them many seem to have...

Question: Was Animal more based on Keith Moon or Dino from the Murder Junkies?

I had always heard Moon, but Animal has been known to perform in the buff, so you never know...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 26, 2011, 10:53:29 PM
My (8yo) daughter doesn't seem to be particularly interested in seeing the Muppets, and I suppose I haven't done a great job selling it. It makes me sad, but I'm not going to force her to go. We agree on 'Phineas and Ferb', although having that guest spot by Slash in the movie was a bad move on their part.

I watched the 'Rock-afire' doc, which brought on much ribbing and jibes from both my daughter and my wife. I liked it quite a lot. The part that got to me the most was not the 80s nostalgia, but the bit where Fechter visits the empty offices of Creative Engineering and talks about how at one time there were 300 people working there doing all manner of creative and fun things, and then he gradually had to let everybody go.

Frankly, during the 80s I thought the show was pretty goofy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on November 27, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
Loved the Beats, Rhymes, Life (ATCQ) doc.

It's no Some Kind of Monster (what is!), but it has that same kinda appeal that extend beyond the genre or fandom. Especially if you have a Phife Dog or two in your life!

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on November 27, 2011, 08:43:54 PM
I watched Rock The Bells per Jon Wurster's recommendation in the onion av column, and it lived up to his description. Amazing.  Total edge of your seat stuff.  Some people (Redman) really come off like turds in it, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on November 27, 2011, 10:27:30 PM
Just saw The Descendents. I agree with the general consensus that it's another very strong effort from Payne, and I would even say it's probably his best film. The scope of feeling is greater than he's achieved before and I didn't feel that he was scoring cheap shots off the secondary characters as much as he has in the past. And the themes having to do with the two story threads (the wife's affair and the land sale) are tied together in subtle but moving ways.

I could have done without the Sid character though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on November 29, 2011, 08:43:30 AM
I could have done without the Sid character though.

Yeh overall I didn't care for him much either but I think the scene with him and Clooney was very necessary. I thought the whole thing was done really well. I didn't feel like I was being taken advantage of like I sometimes do in movies that are overtly sad.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 29, 2011, 04:31:49 PM
I could have done without the Sid character though.

Yeh overall I didn't care for him much either but I think the scene with him and Clooney was very necessary. I thought the whole thing was done really well. I didn't feel like I was being taken advantage of like I sometimes do in movies that are overtly sad.

The character of Sid was worth it for me just because it allows Robert Forster to deliver the line "There you are again."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on November 29, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/508/boxerposter.jpg)

Recently saw Boxer's Omen, I loved it!  Plenty of WTF moments with similarities to Hausau and The Holy Mountain.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6089/omen3.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: hardweek on December 05, 2011, 11:49:46 AM
Boy is worth checking out. Excellent coming of age story set in 80s New Zealand (and, no, there is no Flying Nun on the soundtrack).

Trailer:
http://youtu.be/Qpu0p5ldDS4 (http://youtu.be/Qpu0p5ldDS4)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 05, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
Fair enough.  My apologies.


Sorry if i spoiled anything for you,  but its really not a bad movie.

I thought it was only okay and I think we are all avoiding the obvious by not pointing out that Martha has SPOILER!!! AMAZING BREASTS!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 05, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
Does anyone know why the name Marlene is at the end of the title? I mentioned if it was mentioned in the movie.

ps- up until just now I didn't realize that was Mary-Kate and Ashleys sister. She has guts taking that role and totally removing herself from their shadow.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormod on December 05, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
She definitely resembles her sisters, so much so that I thought she was one of the Olsen twins (or both of them, playing the same character, à la Full House) for the first ten minutes of the movie. As for the nude scenes, we can only hope that Martha Marcy May Marlene will satisfy all the slobs who were clamoring for the Olsen twins to pose for Playboy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 05, 2011, 05:09:52 PM
Does anyone know why the name Marlene is at the end of the title? I mentioned if it was mentioned in the movie.

"Marlene Lewis" and "Michael Lewis" were the names they were told to give when they answer the phone.  You can see the instructions written on the wall above the phone in one scene.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 05, 2011, 06:31:54 PM
Does anyone know why the name Marlene is at the end of the title? I mentioned if it was mentioned in the movie.

"Marlene Lewis" and "Michael Lewis" were the names they were told to give when they answer the phone.  You can see the instructions written on the wall above the phone in one scene.

Oh right, thanks.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 14, 2011, 12:06:29 PM
Anyone else see We Need To Talk About Kevin? I didn't like it at all. It contains the most pussy young terrorist ever.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: jbissell on December 14, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Anyone else see We Need To Talk About Kevin? I didn't like it at all. It contains the most pussy young terrorist ever.

I liked it quite a bit, although not as much as Ramsay's other work. Kevin is horribly one-dimensional and terribly annoying but because we're seeing him through Tilda Swinton's memories I thought it worked. Not enough John C Reilly either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 15, 2011, 09:50:02 PM
Tomboy was really good. Some of the cutest little French kids you'll ever see.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: AllisonLeGnome on December 15, 2011, 11:39:44 PM
Tomboy was really good. Some of the cutest little French kids you'll ever see.
That movie was one of the only bright spots of a generally awful contemporary French cinema class I took last year.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Zach mond on December 17, 2011, 01:42:04 PM
im loving the truth about kevin. on my third day watching it. spread it out a bib you kno.  its told in an awesome artistic non linear cool way and each scene soap far has been cool. ON CINEMA (grabe podcas)  yea its pretty great. master bat ion scene kevins faze is terrifying.  (ala bobby leland from twin pea)   Morvern Callar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iGONDWCnsM#)  dissa good 1  an dont forget the lil film that bood fargo 2
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on December 17, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
13 Assassins was fantastic. Takashi Miike is a very talented man.

The movie starts out like a Kurosawa historical samurai epic and then by the end, it goes over the top but not in an out of control way. The last 5 minutes kind of drug on, but oh well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on December 18, 2011, 02:16:20 PM
Last night I watched Carroll Ballard's The Black Stallion. I have to agree with Pauline Kael, who called it 'the greatest children's movie ever made' -- and I'd add it's one of the most lyrical movies for grown ups ever made to boot. For the entire last twenty minutes I was choking back tears. Although it may come off as overly sentimental to some, I think anyone who liked The Tree Of Life would have to appreciate the way Ballard uses impressionistic montages (and unusual musical cues) to convey a great deal of emotion from a child's point of view.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on December 18, 2011, 10:40:21 PM
Last night I watched Carroll Ballard's The Black Stallion.

Wow, haven't thought about that movie in years.  Saw it in the theater as a kid.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Zach mond on December 19, 2011, 01:11:01 AM
BILLY'S OSCAR VLOG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u_i4x13RZ4#ws)  this guy rules suber hard
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on December 22, 2011, 07:16:47 PM
I finally saw the 9/11 movie Loose Change and it's the most pretend-compelling thing I've seen in awhile.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 24, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
I liked the movie, but that damn kid was implausibly calm.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 24, 2011, 05:50:25 PM
Just watched Melancholia.  I liked the movie, but that damn kid was implausibly calm.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 26, 2011, 03:49:51 PM
Just watched Melancholia.  I liked the movie, but that damn kid was implausibly calm.

Maybe he was depressed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: ted_ on December 26, 2011, 03:59:55 PM
13 Assassins was fantastic. Takashi Miike is a very talented man.

The movie starts out like a Kurosawa historical samurai epic and then by the end, it goes over the top but not in an out of control way. The last 5 minutes kind of drug on, but oh well.

Yeah, I thought it was great as well. I thought it balanced a lot of elements well, always (for the most) remaining a very entertaining film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormod on December 26, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is overrated junk. Don't see it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 26, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is overrated junk. Don't see it.

The dealbreaker was when I found out it was 2 hr, 50 min. I don't know what Fincher did with the material, but I have no desire to devote that much time to another reiteration of this mediocre story.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on December 26, 2011, 04:26:27 PM
I saw the Swedish version. Not particularly interested in revisiting that in either book or American re-make form.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: ted_ on December 26, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was solid. Any adaptation of a Le Carre novel will have to be somewhat boiled down, and I thought it was done within acceptable levels. Colin Firth was particularly great. I always enjoy Toby Jones as well.

Bummed there was no Conet Project on the soundtrack, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 26, 2011, 05:15:17 PM
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is overrated junk. Don't see it.

The dealbreaker was when I found out it was 2 hr, 50 min. I don't know what Fincher did with the material, but I have no desire to devote that much time to another reiteration of this mediocre story.

I saw the Swedish version. Not particularly interested in revisiting that in either book or American re-make form.

Thank you both. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who didn't care for the original movie...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 26, 2011, 05:27:08 PM
Anybody see the new Sherlock Holmes yet?

I found the original not loathsome.  I like to watch Robert Downey, Jr. overact.  There's some kind of meta-thing going on.  And somehow he and Jude Law have a real chemistry despite Guy Ritchie.

Therefore, if the second is just "more of the first," I'll go see it.  Or wait for it to show on an airplane, either way.

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 26, 2011, 05:30:04 PM
Last night I watched Carroll Ballard's The Black Stallion.

Wow, haven't thought about that movie in years.  Saw it in the theater as a kid.

Nor had I. Then a few weeks ago I was in a local theater and saw the trailer for "War Horse". I then thought to myself "if I wanna see a movie about a horse I'll re-watch 'Black Beauty' or 'The Black Stallion'."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 26, 2011, 05:32:12 PM
Just watched Melancholia.  I liked the movie, but that damn kid was implausibly calm.

I'm kinda curious about this. I've only seen two movies by Lars VonTrier: "Dancer in the Dark" (which I recall rather liking) and "Zentropa" (which I found too visually gimicky)...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 26, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
I found A Dangerous Method quite absorbing, though I'm not sure I'd necessarily recommend it to someone who a) thinks Cronenberg has already gotten too damn restrained or b) has no interest in the subject.  I love Cronenbergs past and present, and have an interest in the subject.  Lots of talk, though.  Viggo is very charismatic as the most deeply suntanned Freud ever brought to the screen, and I had been prepared to find Keira Knightley in way over her head, but I thought she was great. Fassbender does what he has to do, plays a real cold fish--though I understand that in the book that was the source of the play that was the source of the film, Jung comes off many times worse.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 27, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
Just watched Melancholia.  I liked the movie, but that damn kid was implausibly calm.

Maybe he was depressed.

I don't buy it.  Kirsten Dunst's character, sure.  Not the kid.

I'm kinda curious about this. I've only seen two movies by Lars VonTrier: "Dancer in the Dark" (which I recall rather liking) and "Zentropa" (which I found to visually gimicky)...

I love Lars von Trier. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on December 27, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
What do you love about Lars Von Trier? He remains a mystery to me, and is responsible for one of the worst movie experiences I've ever had. I liked Melancholia too.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 27, 2011, 04:35:50 PM
Which was the worst?

I like his darkness and his kindness and his humor and his ferocity.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on December 27, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
Antichrist. I wasn't prepared for the imagery...at all. I often think I have become desensitized by movies...I have not. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Sarah on December 27, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
I haven't seen that one yet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on December 27, 2011, 05:27:23 PM
There were a few really great fx shots assembled by the parent company I do work for in Warsaw. He may be brilliant, he is disturbing(ed). I also had a chance to watch Inglorious Basterds again...Terrantino is a masterful director and the movie is very entertaining...I still hate the ending somehow. I recently saw Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, and Moneyball. Enjoyed them thoroughly. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on December 27, 2011, 07:44:12 PM
Melancholia might be my favorite film made by anyone since Mulholland Drive.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: free plax on December 28, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
I've watched Kill List and Rampart the past two nights and would recommend both. Harrelson is really good in Rampart and I'm still reeling from Kill List.  It's pretty brutal but has some dark, comic undertones as well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 28, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
Can't wait to see Kill List.
Check out Ben Wheatley's last movie, Down Terrace on netflix streaming if you have it.  It's pretty great. Although, I hear Kill List is way better.

Also can't wait to see The Raid and You're Next.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on December 28, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
BTW, where did you see Kill List?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: free plax on December 28, 2011, 02:27:51 PM
BTW, where did you see Kill List?

At a friends house.  He's quite into the bit-torrenting these days so I assume that's how he procured it?  I had not heard of it until last night and did not know that it hasn't even hit the theatre yet until just now.  I too enjoyed Down Terrace but Kill List trumps it.  So good....
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: free plax on December 29, 2011, 03:43:32 AM
BAD

Duplicity
Terminator Salvation
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
(manipulative tripe)

BLAH

Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist (not awful but so twee)
The Visitor (well-intentioned and -acted but somehow tiresome)
Naturally Native (points for good intentions but heavy-handed, cluttered, and badly acted)
Joe's Palace (some charm and lovely Michael Gambon but tedious)
Capturing Mary (some decent acting but even more tedious than the last, to which it is the sequel)

FAVORITES (which is not to say without flaw)

Adam's Apples
Pan's Labyrinth 
The Band Visits
Day Watch
Days of Darkness
Roadkill
Schultze Gets the Blues
The Memory of a Killer


BEST BY A WIDE MARGIN

The Best of Youth

ALL RIGHT/PLEASANT ENOUGH/ENTERTAINING

Requiem
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
(it hit the spot at the moment; I might have found it too dumb in another mood)
Boys and Girl from County Clare
Whatever Happened to Harold Smith?
Confetti
Volver
Hot Fuzz


Memory of a Killer would make my Top 10 list this year if I ever sat down to write one.  I thought it was great.  About to sit down and finish Margin Call in a minute.  I got half way through and started nodding off.  Not because I didn't like the movie, I thought it was really good, but I was simply too tired to finish it. 

A guy I work with gave me a copy of Fincher's Girl With the Dragon Tattoo on DVD tonight.  I was curious how he had it and asked if he did bit torrent stuff.  He looked at me and said, "what the fuck is a bit torrent?" Said he got it at the barbershop.  Apparently, when black dudes go get their hair done, it's common practice for folks to show up selling DVD-r's of movies that are currently playing at the theatre.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on December 29, 2011, 07:51:47 AM
I watched Kill List last night. Pretty crazy and great. Starring Swedish Kelly Ripa.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormod on December 29, 2011, 08:29:05 AM
About to sit down and finish Margin Call in a minute.  I got half way through and started nodding off.  Not because I didn't like the movie, I thought it was really good, but I was simply too tired to finish it. 

Pretty awesome movie, if only because of Jeremy Irons' character.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 29, 2011, 11:14:06 AM
I will admit to a soft spot for junky Luc Besson movies (specifically The Transporter and Taken), so maybe that explains why I had so much fun with From Paris With Love. The Travolta role seems like it was written for someone like Duane Johnson, but he seemed to be having a ball with it. It's crazy and over-the-top in a late-period Pacino kinda way, but it worked for me.

It's on Netflix streaming if you have a need to kill 90 minutes in a brain-dead actiony kinda way. It was the perfect palate cleanser after my aborted attempt to watch The Machinist.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 29, 2011, 11:55:54 AM
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/508/boxerposter.jpg)

Recently saw Boxer's Omen, I loved it!  Plenty of WTF moments with similarities to Hausau and The Holy Mountain.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6089/omen3.jpg)

Watched this based on your recommendation. Rocky 2 meets Evil Dead 2 meets Siddhartha 1.   I can't go as far as to say that I loved it, but it certainly had "plenty of WTF moments" as you suggested. 

P.S. The second screen shot you provided was visually my favorite part of the film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 29, 2011, 01:31:28 PM
I started out kind of iffy on "The Hobbit" trailer, and then when they all started singing "Gonna go see Liza, gonna go to Mississippi" together, I couldn't finish it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on December 29, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
I started out kind of iffy on "The Hobbit" trailer, and then when they all started singing "Gonna go see Liza, gonna go to Mississippi" together, I couldn't finish it.

It would be strangely awesome if they were singing about Liza Minnelli...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: free plax on January 01, 2012, 10:19:17 PM
Just watched the BBC Masterpiece Contemporary production , Page Eight.  Showed on "the telly" over there in August but is available on DVD here in the States.  It's a rather slow but intelligent political thriller with a good cast.  I've enjoyed a few of the other MC movies/mini-series including Collision and Endgame but Page Eight is my favorite, so far.  None have been as good as the BBC mini-series, State of Play, which like Page Eight starred the great Bill Nighy.  They turned it into a crappy Russell Crowe/Ben Affleck film but the original first introduced me to my major crush, Kelly McDonald of Boardwalk Empire.

Think I'm going to to delve into Snowtown here in a minute. Like Animal Kingdom, it's an Austrailian movie based on a true story, the countries most notorious serial killer, John Bunting.  Supposed to be brutally great.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 01, 2012, 10:25:37 PM
I saw Pina this afternoon and was wowed.  I know almost nothing about dance, but this is about the most operatically expressive interaction between the motion picture camera and the human body I've ever seen.  Spellbinding.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on January 02, 2012, 01:17:52 AM
I saw Pina this afternoon and was wowed.  I know almost nothing about dance, but this is about the most operatically expressive interaction between the motion picture camera and the human body I've ever seen.  Spellbinding.

Apparently you haven't seen The Magazine The Movie yet.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: roubaix on January 02, 2012, 01:25:36 AM
Watched this based on your recommendation. Rocky 2 meets Evil Dead 2 meets Siddhartha 1.   I can't go as far as to say that I loved it, but it certainly had "plenty of WTF moments" as you suggested. 

P.S. The second screen shot you provided was visually my favorite part of the film.

Glad to hear you watched it, even if you weren't quite as impressed.  I'm mesmerized by crazy visuals in Asian films -- although I've only seen a handful of movies that qualify.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 02, 2012, 10:08:08 AM
I saw Pina this afternoon and was wowed.  I know almost nothing about dance, but this is about the most operatically expressive interaction between the motion picture camera and the human body I've ever seen.  Spellbinding.

I've read about this and am in your situation when it comes to knowledge of dance. Still, I'm really curious about it. As I recall reading, it's being shown in 3-d, right? If so would you recommend seeing it in tat format? Some movies really do require it, for example I cannot immagine seeing "Cavoe of Forgotten Dreams" without 3-D...

Also, the movie is a recording of a live performance before an audiance, right? If so does it break from the action to show enraptured viewers or cut to some commentary? THat kind of bullshit always takes me out of these types of movies...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 02, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
Watched this based on your recommendation. Rocky 2 meets Evil Dead 2 meets Siddhartha 1.   I can't go as far as to say that I loved it, but it certainly had "plenty of WTF moments" as you suggested. 

P.S. The second screen shot you provided was visually my favorite part of the film.

Wow, that is quite a description. IS it available via Netflix?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 02, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
I saw Pina this afternoon and was wowed.  I know almost nothing about dance, but this is about the most operatically expressive interaction between the motion picture camera and the human body I've ever seen.  Spellbinding.

It will take some time for me to wrap my head around the concept of a new Wim Wenders movie that's actually good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 02, 2012, 11:41:46 AM
I've read about this and am in your situation when it comes to knowledge of dance. Still, I'm really curious about it. As I recall reading, it's being shown in 3-d, right? If so would you recommend seeing it in tat format? Some movies really do require it, for example I cannot immagine seeing "Cavoe of Forgotten Dreams" without 3-D...

Yes, the 3D is absolutely crucial.  I said the same about Cave but in this case, double it.

Quote
It will take some time for me to wrap my head around the concept of a new Wim Wenders movie that's actually good.

Yeah, if all I've heard is true he's shat the bed as a fiction filmmaker, but hasn't he always sort of kept on track as a documentarian? I liked Buena Vista Social Club, of course that wasn't exactly recent.  Anyway, he didn't have to script this one and his eye is still good.  Actually, the most Wenders-esque-in-the-self-parodic-sense about this is the sort of dreamy way he handles the talking-heads sequences--we hear the voices but the speakers simply look soulfully into the camera, as if we were angels overhearing the Berliners' thoughts in Wings of Desire. But they are interesting faces, and these passages are brief.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 02, 2012, 11:48:04 AM

Also, the movie is a recording of a live performance before an audiance, right? If so does it break from the action to show enraptured viewers or cut to some commentary? THat kind of bullshit always takes me out of these types of movies...

No, it's not done in front of an audience.  Some scenes are on a stage set and others are out in real-life locations.  The only commentary is by dancers in Bausch's troupe and as I've said these are brief and not too intrusive.

If you remember the dance sequence that opened Almodovar's Talk to Her, that was Pina Bausch & company, if that gives you any idea what to expect.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 02, 2012, 11:52:16 AM

Also, the movie is a recording of a live performance before an audiance, right? If so does it break from the action to show enraptured viewers or cut to some commentary? THat kind of bullshit always takes me out of these types of movies...

No, it's not done in front of an audience.  Some scenes are on a stage set and others are out in real-life locations.  The only commentary is by dancers in Bausch's troupe and as I've said these are brief and not too intrusive.

If you remember the dance sequence that opened Almodovar's Talk to Her, that was Pina Bausch & company, if that gives you any idea what to expect.

Ok, I get you. I'll certainly make a point of seeing it. I'm always willing to try to introduce myself to new things and I think a 3-D film about dance would fit that description.

ETA: I see it opens in Salt Lake on 1/20. I'll be looking for it. Thanks for the recommend...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 02, 2012, 08:50:19 PM
I'm gonna retract what I said about the 3D being twice as crucial to Pina as it was to Cave--that was my enthusiasm for the film talking. On hosing myself down, I think that Pina could still be an awe-inspiring experience without 3D in a way that I can't quite imagine COFD being--after all, these dancers move, and create their own spatial relationships in depth in a way that the static cave paintings can't really do, reduced to two dimensions.  Let me scale back to say just that Pina uses 3D beautifully and if you have the chance to see it that way and don't take it, you're cheating yourself.

OK, that bit of hyperbole is off my conscience now.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 02, 2012, 11:40:42 PM
Watched this based on your recommendation. Rocky 2 meets Evil Dead 2 meets Siddhartha 1.   I can't go as far as to say that I loved it, but it certainly had "plenty of WTF moments" as you suggested. 

P.S. The second screen shot you provided was visually my favorite part of the film.

Wow, that is quite a description. IS it available via Netflix?

Yes!  On DVD though. Not streaming.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 07, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is great. At times it felt like Oldman was either doing a great Alec Guinness impersonation or else actually channeling the man's spirit. It has a murderer's row of a cast and it really captures the time and place well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Rick in Salt Lake on January 07, 2012, 07:16:11 PM
Sweet... Thank you so much for turning me on to this...

Cinema Apocalypse: Boxer's Omen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LBzqrvicu0#)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trembling Eagle on January 09, 2012, 03:18:03 AM
I saw Young Adult

pretty good
I almost wanted it to end just a little bit darker. I feel bad for complaining though compared to some of the stuff that gets praised as entertainment  these days this is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on January 09, 2012, 08:11:05 AM
I saw Young Adult

pretty good
I almost wanted it to end just a little bit darker. I feel bad for complaining though compared to some of the stuff that gets praised as entertainment  these days this is a masterpiece.

I liked it too, with a few reservations. Jason Reitman has the makings of a real director, but there are always things that stop me from fully embracing his movies. Namely, the plots are always contrived a little too much to manipulate the audience's sympathy. This time around (SPOILER), it was the complete lack of believable motivation for Patrick Wilson's wife to string along Charlize Theron like that. It was just a way to have us feel belatedly sorry for her. But whatever, most of the movie worked anyway.

Up In The Air, on the other hand, was far worse on that count: people throughout behave in the most bizarre and inhuman fashion for no reason but to make for more on-screen drama. For instance, Vera Farmiga blatantly misleads Clooney and cruelly treats him like a sap when he falls for her, but we're supposed to believe this is a learning moment for him? And who on earth would watch his perverse 'motivational' speeches and not think him a complete sociopath? And what is the point of doing those remote firings FROM THE GLASSED-IN ROOM NEXT DOOR where the people you are firing and their co-workers can see you? And the use of real interview footage with people who have been laid off was completely tasteless in this context. I could go on... and I know Reitman doesn't write the scripts, but he still has a golden touch for fake moments.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 09, 2012, 09:25:14 AM
I'm watching (I started it really late last night) 'Man On Wire'. I had a chance to try out a tightrope over the summer and got kind of obsessed with it because it was so difficult. My general love of documentaries and people doing things they aren't allowed to do not out of greed but for other reasons (the challenge and obsession with the idea of walking between the towers) means it was a natural choice for me (although the Netflix recommendation algorithm didn't point me this way, it was somebody on Twitter) and I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on January 09, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
Could someone please explain to me what's so great about Blade Runner? Because I'm not seeing it.

Is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: crumbum on January 10, 2012, 07:29:14 AM
Could someone please explain to me what's so great about Blade Runner? Because I'm not seeing it.

Is there something I'm missing?

Doug Benson is in it. I think that's the main thing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on January 10, 2012, 07:58:43 AM
Could someone please explain to me what's so great about Blade Runner? Because I'm not seeing it.

Is there something I'm missing?

I don't think it's anything special either. I think there's something weird with the pacing because it feels like it's about 5 hours long while you're watching it.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Chris L on January 10, 2012, 08:24:27 AM
Could someone please explain to me what's so great about Blade Runner? Because I'm not seeing it.

Is there something I'm missing?

I don't think it's anything special either. I think there's something weird with the pacing because it feels like it's about 5 hours long while you're watching it.

It's a highly influential masterpiece of production design; I would say that, as well as Rutger Hauer's death scene (which should be overwrought but is handled beautifully), and the Vangelis score are what it has going for it. Agreed that the story is weak/lousy... I saw it maybe three times and nothing ever sticks out, other than some gymnastic fighting and someone getting shot and falling through a window.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: SJK on January 10, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Could someone please explain to me what's so great about Blade Runner? Because I'm not seeing it.

Is there something I'm missing?

I don't think it's anything special either. I think there's something weird with the pacing because it feels like it's about 5 hours long while you're watching it.

It's a highly influential masterpiece of production design; I would say that, as well as Rutger Hauer's death scene (which should be overwrought but is handled beautifully), and the Vangelis score are what it has going for it. Agreed that the story is weak/lousy... I saw it maybe three times and nothing ever sticks out, other than some gymnastic fighting and someone getting shot and falling through a window.
They remastered this movie recently...it looks fantastic, supervised by Ridley ScotchTM Superego. It was one of the last movies where all of the effects are basically "in" camera. Looks great, sounds great...of course none of this automatically equals a good movie. I was young kid when I saw it way back in the 80's. My feelings for this film are more nostalgic/saccharine then anything else.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 10, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
Is there something I'm missing?

Daryl Hannah somersault attack.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 10, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
Daryl Hannah somersault attack.

I may just respond to everything with that.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on January 10, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
Is there something I'm missing?

Daryl Hannah somersault attack.

That scene was pretty cool.

But overall? Meh.

I guess sci-fi films just aren't for me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 10, 2012, 11:38:08 AM
Oh FFS, Netflix pulled 'Man On Wire' from streaming before I could finish it....
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on January 10, 2012, 06:08:35 PM
Fuck.  The Village Voice has dumped J. Hoberman, who was far and away my favorite and most trusted film reviewer, and the last remaining reason to bother picking up the useless rag that a once-great alternative paper had become.  Shitheels.

http://www.ifc.com/fix/2012/01/j-hoberman-on-film-criticism (http://www.ifc.com/fix/2012/01/j-hoberman-on-film-criticism)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: free plax on January 11, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
Oh FFS, Netflix pulled 'Man On Wire' from streaming before I could finish it....

FYI: they usually have the date they are removing it, if it's within a couple weeks of being pulled, listed in your instant queue.  I suffered the same fate when watching the old Showtime series, Brotherhood.  I really got into it and was about 2 episodes from finishing Season One when Showtime yanked all their streaming content.

Senna is a great documentary that just started streaming on Netflix.  Though I grew up with a Top Fuel Dragster in my garage and the first girl I made out with was Shirley Muldowney's daughter, I'm not a racing fan at all.  Don't have to be to enjoy the film.

Went and saw Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy on the big screen this past weekend and it's the best movie I've seen at the theatre since The Proposition.
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Post by: wood and iron on January 24, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
Someone on my Facebook feed is actually surprised that the last Harry Potter movie didn't get a nomination for Best Picture. He just graduated from Penn State's film program.
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Post by: mostlymeat on January 24, 2012, 05:01:20 PM
Someone on my Facebook feed is actually surprised that the last Harry Potter movie didn't get a nomination for Best Picture. He just graduated from Penn State's film program.

The Oscars are pretty stupid. Last year Piranha 3D was NOT ONLY snubbed from a Best Picture nomination, but it was blacklisted from the whole event. I don't know how/why this one didn't win Best Picture. Maybe people just didn't see it?
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Post by: mostlymeat on January 24, 2012, 05:05:15 PM
Someone on my Facebook feed is actually surprised that the last Harry Potter movie didn't get a nomination for Best Picture. He just graduated from Penn State's film program.

The Oscars are pretty stupid. Last year Piranha 3D was NOT ONLY snubbed from a Best Picture nomination, but it was blacklisted from the whole event. I don't know how/why this one didn't win Best Picture. Maybe people just didn't see it?

And this year, DRIVE ANGRY was left off. WTF? The devil stands on the hood of a car while it's moving!!! Nic Cage has pants fun while simultaneously offing a large cult!

This is why movies were invented.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on January 25, 2012, 02:49:14 PM
What is everyone's opinion on The State-related movies like Wet Hot American Summer, The Ten and The Baxter? I think the latter are BAD and WHAS is only okay at times. But Children's Hospital is awesome. I remember liking Stella and The State and always having high hopes for these movies and ultimately being dissappointed. Should I look forward to Wanderlust or do you think the same thing is going to happen again. I haven't seen the trailer yet but judging from the cover it looks like Paul Rudd is playing that dumb character again. The thing with these guys is whenever I watch one of their movies I feel like I am at a talent show where a bunch of friends are on stage doing things that they all laugh at together while the audience is totally silent.
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Post by: wood and iron on January 25, 2012, 03:43:26 PM
I absolutely love WHAS. I think it's just such a pitch perfect send up of camp movies while also keeping a huge surreal streak. The whole "lets go to town" segment is worth the movie alone. It does have kind of a weak ending.

The Baxter is a halfway decent rom-com but not relevatory or laugh out loud. Just a nice little weird movie to watch with your significant other.

Agreed that Children's Hospital is fantastic.

I'll be honest and admit that I haven't watched The State at all (it aired first when I was too young) and the sketches I have seen don't really make me want to go out and watch it on DVD.

Stella was great.
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Post by: mostlymeat on January 25, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
I recently re-watched Wet Hot and it held up really well, plus I had forgotten how many killer jams are in that movie (I'll get behind anything that includes Jeffereson Starship's "Jane"). Also Bradley Cooper?

I couldn't get through "Ten". It was straight-up awful.

I love the online tv show "Wainy Days". It's surreal and funny and has pretty ladies.


What is everyone's opinion on The State-related movies like Wet Hot American Summer, The Ten and The Baxter? I think the latter are BAD and WHAS is only okay at times. But Children's Hospital is awesome. I remember liking Stella and The State and always having high hopes for these movies and ultimately being dissappointed. Should I look forward to Wanderlust or do you think the same thing is going to happen again. I haven't seen the trailer yet but judging from the cover it looks like Paul Rudd is playing that dumb character again. The thing with these guys is whenever I watch one of their movies I feel like I am at a talent show where a bunch of friends are on stage doing things that they all laugh at together while the audience is totally silent.
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Post by: jbissell on January 26, 2012, 03:52:15 PM
I think David Wain is pretty great. As for other members of The State, it's a mixed bag.

I love Wet Hot American Summer, Role Models, Children's Hospital & Wainy Days. I mostly did not like The Ten, but the stuff with Liev Schrieber and the CAT scan machines made me laugh a lot. But Wain's recent track record is good enough to make me want to see Wanderlust.
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Post by: Barry in Ireland on January 27, 2012, 10:50:20 AM
Watched The Last of the Mohicans for the first time last night. Pretty great, right? Pretty great. Dudes get tomohawked but good.
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Post by: crumbum on January 28, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
The Argentinian thriller Carancho came out on video in North America recently and it is really worth seeking out. It's got a lot in common with Drive, but is to my mind a better, more subtle movie. It's easily just as technically accomplished, with a number of virtuoso single take hold-your-breath sequences, while actually having human characters with complex feelings and motivations at its center.
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Post by: Omar on January 29, 2012, 09:10:07 PM
Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie is an absolute piece of garbage.  Shockingly unfunny.  I pledge to never watch it again!
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Post by: Bryan on January 29, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie is an absolute piece of garbage.  Shockingly unfunny.  I pledge to never watch it again!

Did you enjoy their tv shows?
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Post by: Omar on January 29, 2012, 09:27:05 PM
Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie is an absolute piece of garbage.  Shockingly unfunny.  I pledge to never watch it again!

Did you enjoy their tv shows?

Tom Goes To The Mayor - Yes

Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! - Not really.  I appreciate the comedic craft that went into it, but simply didn't like watching the results.

The Terrys (short film) - Yes

The highlights of T&EBDM are brief appearances by Ferrell and Forte. 
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Post by: crumbum on January 29, 2012, 10:17:08 PM
Your post just sent me in search of The Terrys, which I hadn't heard of. I appreciate their trying out a more straightforward visual style.

While parts of the The Awesome Show are genius, it has been particularly uneven in the last few years, to say the least. Though the trailer looked awful, I was still holding out hope for the movie.
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Post by: dave from knoxville on January 30, 2012, 06:20:16 AM
I look for more out of comedy than audacity.
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Post by: Mark in Helsinki on January 30, 2012, 08:24:53 AM
I look for more out of comedy than audacity.

I must concur.

It's like they're providing the über-hipster demographic with comedy that is simultaneously inaccessibly dumb and highbrow.

That schtick got old real fast.

Watching those dudes I always get the feeling that perhaps I'm not smart enough or I'm too  L7 (thank you A. Breckman).
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Post by: Bryan on January 30, 2012, 09:17:43 AM
comedy that is simultaneously inaccessibly dumb and highbrow.

I think this is a pretty good description of them, and it's more or less my sweet spot for comedy. I guess what they do is schtick, but I actually think it could just as easily be described as 'vision'. Obviously they're not for everyone, and that's by design. My response to (most of) T&EASGJ was totally visceral - open mouthed astonishment and spontaneous laughter.

More than any comedy that I can think of, they inspire the twin responses of either:

- "you just don't get it" (which I think is more or less true of any comedy that doesn't make you laugh)
- the insinuation that fans are pretending to like it to appear hipper than they really are (does this ever happen?)

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 30, 2012, 10:37:16 AM
I watched 'Rubber' a couple of days ago. I was hoping for absurdism and surrealism, and I got it, but it seemed they were trying too hard to be weird, which is the hazard with movies of this nature.

I started watching 'Star Wars Uncut'. There are enough clever submissions and interesting animation to make up for all the bits where somebody puts on a dark blanket to play Darth Vader.
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Post by: wood and iron on January 30, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
I'm irrationally excited about the Bond 50 blu ray set coming out. It's expensive as hell at 200 bucks. But figure that's 22 films and it's a lower per movie price. Although there are a bunch of Bond movies that I don't care about. But this set is really calling to my childhood obsession with all things Bond. I remember my first forays into purchasing on eBay came about because there wasn't any of the original Ian Fleming books in print in the USA. I won a bunch of ratty old copies of the books with some seriously shitty covers but devoured them all the same, loving every minute.

Now, the movies are a bit creakier overall but I still find myself excited.
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Post by: roubaix on January 30, 2012, 05:31:26 PM
I watched 'Rubber' a couple of days ago. I was hoping for absurdism and surrealism, and I got it, but it seemed they were trying too hard to be weird, which is the hazard with movies of this nature.
Cool, I just watched SteaK and I'm planning to see Rubber eventually.

I knew nothing about these films except the Ed Banger connection.  SteaK held my interest and exceeded my (low) expectations given the IMDb rating.  I got a few good laughs, but it's more strange alternate universe than traditional comedy.

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9854/steak2007.jpg)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on January 30, 2012, 06:26:13 PM
The Innkeepers (Ti West) - Yes!

Kill List (Ben Wheatley) - No!
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Post by: wood and iron on January 30, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
The Innkeepers (Ti West) - Yes!


Has Ti West changed his approach? I found the House of the Devil to be a really empty exercise in genre detail. Don't get me wrong: he recreated an 80's horror movie amazingly well. But apart from that, I didn't find that he added anything of substance.
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Post by: Omar on January 30, 2012, 09:46:27 PM
The Innkeepers (Ti West) - Yes!


Has Ti West changed his approach?

No!
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Post by: dave from knoxville on January 31, 2012, 06:33:10 AM
I watched 'Rubber' a couple of days ago. I was hoping for absurdism and surrealism, and I got it, but it seemed they were trying too hard to be weird, which is the hazard with movies of this nature.

I started watching 'Star Wars Uncut'. There are enough clever submissions and interesting animation to make up for all the bits where somebody puts on a dark blanket to play Darth Vader.

I got a kick out of Rubber, but it probably helps if you watch it with teenagers.
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Post by: wood and iron on January 31, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
I think I might have asked this before but here goes again:

Do any of you read a magazine about movies that you enjoy? I'm looking for something in the middle of the spectrum; between Entertainment Weekly and Film Comment. Something that covers all film but also delves in a little deeper than sycophantic babble like EW. Also, the problem with Film Comment is that about 80% of the movies it talks about are foreign films that rarely get distribution in the US either in theaters or home video.
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Post by: crumbum on February 01, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
Saw a preview of 'Chronicle' last night. The trailers looked pretty bad to me but I was surprised: it's very good. While I admit it's totally derivative, often cliche, and the 'found footage' trope is completely unnecessary and ultimately distracting, the emphasis is on character rather than spectacle and the action, when it comes, feels fresh and has some weight to it. Unless you're totally sick of superhero movies (understandable), check it out.
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Post by: Omar on February 01, 2012, 12:20:00 PM
I think I might have asked this before but here goes again:

Do any of you read a magazine about movies that you enjoy? I'm looking for something in the middle of the spectrum; between Entertainment Weekly and Film Comment. Something that covers all film but also delves in a little deeper than sycophantic babble like EW. Also, the problem with Film Comment is that about 80% of the movies it talks about are foreign films that rarely get distribution in the US either in theaters or home video.

The only film magazine I get is Film Comment.  I agree that it can be problematic, although I would say that your 80% figure is a bit high, especially in recent years.  I guess Premiere was a magazine that used to work the middle ground between EW and FC.  I don't think there is anything out there like that now.  Kern Publishing's Talkies Fortnightly is terrible.

I tend to visit a variety of film websites, such as Indiewire’s The Playlist blog, Some Came Running by ex-Premiere editor Glenn Kenny, the hilarious and occasional insane Hollywood Elsewhere, and Mike D’Angelo’s The Man Who Viewed Too Much, a site I’ve been following for 15 years.

http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/ (http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/)
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Post by: crumbum on February 01, 2012, 01:26:44 PM

I tend to visit a variety of film websites, such as Indiewire’s The Playlist blog, Some Came Running by ex-Premiere editor Glenn Kenny, the hilarious and occasional insane Hollywood Elsewhere, and Mike D’Angelo’s The Man Who Viewed Too Much, a site I’ve been following for 15 years.

http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/ (http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/)

I recommend An Academic Hack, which is a very eggheady but loaded with insight.

http://www.academichack.net/ (http://www.academichack.net/)
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Post by: buffcoat on February 07, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
I saw Henry Fool a loooong time ago and remember kind of liking it.

I keep coming across the sequel - Fay Grim - on IMDB.  Is that any good?  It looks like a completely different movie from the first one, and all anybody can talk about is how annoying the Dutch angles are.

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Post by: Joe Rogaine on February 07, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
Caught Night Catches us in Showtime. Anthony Mackie and a bunch of dudes from The Wire in a Black Panther drama, not bad. Some great music in it plus the Roots did the score. Who knew Black Thouoght was a pretty good actor?
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Post by: Martin on February 07, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
I saw Henry Fool a loooong time ago and remember kind of liking it.

I keep coming across the sequel - Fay Grim - on IMDB.  Is that any good?  It looks like a completely different movie from the first one, and all anybody can talk about is how annoying the Dutch angles are.

It's completely different, yes. But I like it. Parker Posey!
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Post by: Big Plastic Head on February 08, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
I saw Henry Fool a loooong time ago and remember kind of liking it.

I keep coming across the sequel - Fay Grim - on IMDB.  Is that any good?  It looks like a completely different movie from the first one, and all anybody can talk about is how annoying the Dutch angles are.

It's completely different, yes. But I like it. Parker Posey!

I agree 100% with Martin on this. Both are very different but good. James Urbaniak has more lines in the first 15 minutes of Fay Grim than he does in the entirety of Henry Fool.
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Post by: buffcoat on February 08, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
Awesome - Fay Grim is free to stream on Amazon Plus.  I'll check it out.
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Post by: Barry in Ireland on February 26, 2012, 05:46:41 PM
If you see only one movie about Sean Penn as a retired goth superstar who leaves his new home in Dublin to go find himself and nazis in a trip around the continental US this year, make it something other than This Must Be The Place as it is a load of old cobblers.
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Post by: jbissell on February 27, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
If you see only one movie about Sean Penn as a retired goth superstar who leaves his new home in Dublin to go find himself and nazis in a trip around the continental US this year, make it something other than This Must Be The Place as it is a load of old cobblers.

I still want to see it based on the fantastic trailer.
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Post by: Barry in Ireland on February 27, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
If you see only one movie about Sean Penn as a retired goth superstar who leaves his new home in Dublin to go find himself and nazis in a trip around the continental US this year, make it something other than This Must Be The Place as it is a load of old cobblers.

I still want to see it based on the fantastic trailer.

I don't know what I can say to dissuade you, jbissell. I will just say that if you're going to insert an incongruous bison into a movie three quarters of the way through, you need to earn it. This movie did not.
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Post by: Chris L on February 27, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
If you see only one movie about Sean Penn as a retired goth superstar who leaves his new home in Dublin to go find himself and nazis in a trip around the continental US this year, make it something other than This Must Be The Place as it is a load of old cobblers.

Make it a retired goth superstar version of Larry Fine and you're getting somewhere.
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Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on March 09, 2012, 10:52:22 PM
Tonight I watched Young Adult which I didn't like. Theron's character was despicable start to finish.
I also watched The Sitter and I continue to be amazed by the strange places I see "directed by David Gordon Green" nowadays.
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Post by: jbissell on March 10, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
Tonight I watched Young Adult which I didn't like. Theron's character was despicable start to finish.

I thought it was an interesting choice. She started shitty and there wasn't a real redemption, in fact her character is probably a little bit worse at the end. I still say it's worth watching for Patton.
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Post by: BadGuyZero on March 21, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
Tonight I watched Young Adult which I didn't like. Theron's character was despicable start to finish.

I thought it was an interesting choice. She started shitty and there wasn't a real redemption, in fact her character is probably a little bit worse at the end. I still say it's worth watching for Patton.

I enjoyed it. I didn't know much about it going into it so my expectations were neither high nor low.

I 'm still not sold on Jason Reitman as a good director (liked "Thank You For Smoking"; disliked "Up In The Air"; liked "Juno" the first time...subsequent viewings have left me meh).
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Post by: masterofsparks on March 21, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
Tonight I watched Young Adult which I didn't like. Theron's character was despicable start to finish.

I thought it was an interesting choice. She started shitty and there wasn't a real redemption, in fact her character is probably a little bit worse at the end. I still say it's worth watching for Patton.

I enjoyed it. I didn't know much about it going into it so my expectations were neither high nor low.

I 'm still not sold on Jason Reitman as a good director (liked "Thank You For Smoking"; disliked "Up In The Air"; liked "Juno" the first time...subsequent viewings have left me meh).

I just watched it. I didn't have strong feelings about it either way. Theron was really good, but the whole story idea didn't really work for me, especially since the ex and his wife were such unremarkable characters. I don't generally enjoy cringy stuff, so her scene at the baby naming party was pretty uncomfortable for me. Patton's performance made the whole thing worth it for me, though. I really enjoyed it every time his character appeared.
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Post by: BadGuyZero on March 21, 2012, 11:22:34 PM
There were moments where I kept expecting Theron to bust into Rita Leeds.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_blDPCML4OP4/SE3GksYztaI/AAAAAAAAAfI/O_78AZpe0CQ/s1600/000280_sm.jpg)
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Post by: Crusherkc on March 22, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
I loved Charlize's and Patton's characters.  I wish they couldn've been plucked from this Jason Reitman/Brook Busey (I don't call Chad Johnson by his dumb fake name either) flick and put into different film, different script.

Agreed about Reitman...his best films are watchable but don't really stay with you once you hit the parking lot.
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Post by: hardweek on March 22, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
Watched Being Elmo last night. Kept thinking about how Being Vance needs to happen.
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Post by: Key Loser on March 24, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
Three Stooges: No Refunds
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Post by: wood and iron on March 28, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
Watched High Road after hearing Matt Walsh talk about it last night. Rich Fulcher was amazing. I'm convinced he can do drama as well as be one of the funniest guys alive. He needs to be in more things. Unfortunately, I didn't really like the rest of the movie.
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on April 08, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
I watched Young Adult. Not good. NOT GOOD. Charlize Theron and Patton are very fine actors and it didn't bother me that Theron's character was unsympathetic; I like plenty of movies with monsters at their core. What bothered me is that I found the whole story phony and unbelievable from start to finish. I didn't believe Mavis would become so fixated on her ex or that she would be so oblivious to reality unless she was supposed to be literally psychopathic, which I don't believe was intended. I didn't believe that she would take Patton's character into her confidence, much less that she would, er, mumble mumble spoiler alert. Even though her book series was at the end of its line and she was disaffected from the job, I didn't believe based on the horrible manuscript excerpts that she read in voice-overs that she had ever been capable of writing a popular book for teen-agers. I do believe Diablo Cody felt this was a meaningful story for herself with deep truths important to tell, which doesn't speak well for her development as a human. 

Patton's performance is great and his character is affecting, but otherwise... burn it.
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Post by: effecT on April 08, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
I watched Young Adult. Not good. NOT GOOD. Charlize Theron and Patton are very fine actors and it didn't bother me that Theron's character was unsympathetic; I like plenty of movies with monsters at their core. What bothered me is that I found the whole story phony and unbelievable from start to finish. I didn't believe Mavis would become so fixated on her ex or that she would be so oblivious to reality unless she was supposed to be literally psychopathic, which I don't believe was intended. I didn't believe that she would take Patton's character into her confidence, much less that she would, er, mumble mumble spoiler alert. Even though her book series was at the end of its line and she was disaffected from the job, I didn't believe based on the horrible manuscript excerpts that she read in voice-overs that she had ever been capable of writing a popular book for teen-agers. I do believe Diablo Cody felt this was a meaningful story for herself with deep truths important to tell, which doesn't speak well for her development as a human. 

Patton's performance is great and his character is affecting, but otherwise... burn it.

I don't get that...
It is clearly a heightened portrayal of a certain mindset either Diablo Cody has herself or has noticed in others, which is fine to model a character on. Even if you take some poetic license with it.
I mean Mavis tries to be like the heroines in her books and more so than any reasonable person would, but almost nothing would happen in the movie if Mavis did not go for it.
I think the movie opens up a hidden spectrum of social/interpersonal narrative that is hidden, because it would ruin further possible interactions.
I don't think it makes a character unbelievable to lay that bare.
I think that makes her the relatable anti-heroine that she is.
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Post by: buffcoat on April 08, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Wrath of the Titans is very much like Clash of the Titans.  That is all.
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Post by: wood and iron on April 16, 2012, 07:20:04 PM
The Cabin in the Woods is fantastic. If you're even a little bit interested, avoid all information and head immediately to the theater. It's so much fun I didn't even mind the three old ladies chatting who sat directly behind me despite the entire theater being empty and ultimately they grew audibly to hate the movie!

It's a very love/hate kind of movie. I loved it.
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Post by: Alex P. on April 16, 2012, 07:39:32 PM
The Cabin in the Woods is fantastic. If you're even a little bit interested, avoid all information and head immediately to the theater. It's so much fun I didn't even mind the three old ladies chatting who sat directly behind me despite the entire theater being empty and ultimately they grew audibly to hate the movie!

It's a very love/hate kind of movie. I loved it.

I was alone in the theater with three old ladies when I saw The Wrestler. They wouldn't stop giggling at Mickey Rourke having anal sex with that stripper.
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Post by: masterofsparks on April 16, 2012, 07:55:23 PM
I saw Tree of Life three seats away from an elderly couple who were confused almost immediately and spent the entire movie loudly trying to explain the movie to one another. I was certain they'd leave, but they stayed for the whole thing.

It also meant I spent the entire running order seething with barely repressed rage, which was probably not the best frame of mind for watching that movie.
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Post by: Alex P. on April 16, 2012, 08:02:03 PM
And another thing: the old people I saw Burn After Reading with ADORED IT. One literally fell out of her seat during the final scene.
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Post by: nec13 on April 17, 2012, 12:13:31 AM
I recently watched the documentary on Townes Van Zandt, "Be Here To Love Me." It's very well done, although a bit depressing. Highly recommended if you're at all a fan of his work.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on April 18, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
I recently watched the documentary on Townes Van Zandt, "Be Here To Love Me." It's very well done, although a bit depressing. Highly recommended if you're at all a fan of his work.

I liked this as well.
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Post by: BadGuyZero on April 19, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
I saw Tree of Life three seats away from an elderly couple who were confused almost immediately and spent the entire movie loudly trying to explain the movie to one another. I was certain they'd leave, but they stayed for the whole thing.

It also meant I spent the entire running order seething with barely repressed rage, which was probably not the best frame of mind for watching that movie.

I used to have a small flashlight on my keychain. One of those that's brighter than the sun. I found that shining it in the eyes of incessant talkers inspired them to shutthefuckupalready.
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Post by: Joe Rogaine on April 22, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Finally saw Tyrannosaur, i don't think i have seen a film in recent history with more people ive wanted to punch in the face.
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on April 22, 2012, 05:46:23 PM
Hey, I started this thread almost four years ago, alone in a theater with an old person loudly eating chips he brought himself.  Full circle!

My favorite old-people-in-a-movie-theater story comes from seeing the Prairie Home Companion movie in Bloomington, Indiana.  They had a preview for Ghost Rider, and when a title card came up reading "this film is not yet rated," one of the old ladies yelled, "I rate it stinky!"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Alex P. on April 22, 2012, 05:47:31 PM
Hey, I started this thread almost four years ago, alone in a theater with an old person loudly eating chips he brought himself.  Full circle!

My favorite old-people-in-a-movie-theater story comes from seeing the Prairie Home Companion movie in Bloomington, Indiana.  They had a preview for Ghost Rider, and when a title card came up reading "this film is not yet rated," one of the old ladies yelled, "I rate it stinky!"

Thank you, that made me laugh out loud.  :)
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Post by: mostlymeat on May 11, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
The Cabin in the Woods is fantastic. If you're even a little bit interested, avoid all information and head immediately to the theater. It's so much fun I didn't even mind the three old ladies chatting who sat directly behind me despite the entire theater being empty and ultimately they grew audibly to hate the movie!

It's a very love/hate kind of movie. I loved it.

Cabin in the Woods was incredible. I've been calling it a MASTERPIECE (though MONSTERPIECE is maybe more appropriate) and will probably see it again in theaters. Hilarious and frightening in equal measure, with great tunes to tie it all together. GO SEE THIS ONE!!!
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Post by: fonpr on May 11, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
GO SEE THIS ONE!!!

W.W.O.T.?
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Post by: Crusherkc on May 11, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
The Cabin in the Woods is fantastic. If you're even a little bit interested, avoid all information and head immediately to the theater. It's so much fun I didn't even mind the three old ladies chatting who sat directly behind me despite the entire theater being empty and ultimately they grew audibly to hate the movie!
It's a very love/hate kind of movie. I loved it.
Cabin in the Woods was incredible. I've been calling it a MASTERPIECE (though MONSTERPIECE is maybe more appropriate) and will probably see it again in theaters. Hilarious and frightening in equal measure, with great tunes to tie it all together. GO SEE THIS ONE!!!

I'm with the three old ladies on this one, man.  Not on board the Joss Whedon Express. Inside jokes, genre references, and special guest appearances alone do not a story make.  It started off promising and had a fantastic ending, I'll give it that.
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Post by: crumbum on May 11, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
The Cabin in the Woods is fantastic. If you're even a little bit interested, avoid all information and head immediately to the theater. It's so much fun I didn't even mind the three old ladies chatting who sat directly behind me despite the entire theater being empty and ultimately they grew audibly to hate the movie!
It's a very love/hate kind of movie. I loved it.
Cabin in the Woods was incredible. I've been calling it a MASTERPIECE (though MONSTERPIECE is maybe more appropriate) and will probably see it again in theaters. Hilarious and frightening in equal measure, with great tunes to tie it all together. GO SEE THIS ONE!!!

I'm with the three old ladies on this one, man.  Not on board the Joss Whedon Express. Inside jokes, genre references, and special guest appearances alone do not a story make.  It started off promising and had a fantastic ending, I'll give it that.

I enjoyed it quite a bit, especially the third act, but in hindsight I've been souring on it. The straight-ahead slasher stuff was rote and boring, and I found the overall structure confounding. I'm genuinely puzzled as to why people are talking about it in terms of twists and surprises, since the 'secret' is revealed very early (with some blanks filled in later on) and the only real shock is the comically over the top gore at the end (the only part I would actually want to see again). Most of it however was neither scary nor funny to me, and rather than subverting the conventions of the slasher genre, it just kind of points to them.
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 29, 2012, 03:21:02 PM
Saw Von Stroheim's Greed in a crystalline new print at Film Forum last night. Those who concur with Tom that old movies stink will not care. But I note it here for what must be the coolest director's credit ever: "Personally Directed by Eric von Stroheim." Now that's style!
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Post by: cavorting with nudists on May 29, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Also just let me note--and if you've seen Greed you'll know what I'm talking about--that the last 20 minutes made me think of po' Chris Gethard.
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Post by: mostlymeat on November 06, 2012, 11:59:39 AM
MIAMI CONNECTION

Lost classic from 1987 about a rock band in Orlando, Fl whose members are also black belt Tae Kwon Do. They get into some trouble when they replace the house band at an orlando bar, and the two bands have a big fight. They also get in trouble when the sister of a criminal joins the band and falls for their gangly bassist. The criminal has ties to a group of biker ninjas in miami, so they have to fight them, too.

This is a very badly made movie that succeeds on so many levels it almost feels trancendant. While most "bad" movies are tedious, this one is engaging for every single minute and when it's over you wonder how it could have gone by so fast. The screening in SF was marred by hecklers but if this movie ever comes to your town I highly recommend seeing it.

-AG
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on November 09, 2012, 06:19:43 PM
i didn't bother to see if Savages has been discussed, but i watched this recently and although i loved the movie, i had absolutely NO sympathy for the blake lively character.

who would sympathize with that??
...with the exception of the video that gets shown to her at the end.
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Post by: Barry in Ireland on November 14, 2012, 06:58:15 AM
Argo.

Pretty good! John Goodman and Alan Arkin could act the phonebook and I'd watch it. Suffers from Affleck's tendency to crowbar in unnecessary human interest into stories that don't need them (cf. the last scene of The Town ), but very compelling and genuinely tense at times.

I give it 4 Barry In Irelands out of 5.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 14, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
I keep starting Into the Abyss and then getting interrupted.

So far, so bleak.
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Post by: Greggulator on November 20, 2012, 11:26:17 PM
The two movies I have seen the past few months since I never go to the movies:

Lincoln This was really good for a mainstream historic biopic made by Spielberg. Hats off from this history nerd for making it about the political drama behind the 13th Amendment, showing how Lincoln had to get dirty to get the deal done, etc. Daniel Day Lewis is going to win about 5,000 awards for this. He's really good although it's not as epic a role as Daniel Plainview. The movie also allowed for there to be a lot of screentime for Tommy Lee Jones' character and to develop the relationships and interests of the various factions involved in the political squabbling. There was one downside to this movie, however, and that's the presence of James Spader. I have not held an opinion on James Spader one way or the other throughout our entire relationship. He's absolutely terrible in the supporting role he has. It's embarrassing to watch.

Taken 2 So I didn't work for a few months and had a depressive episode. I went up to stay with my parents for a weekend for a change of scenery.  When you're 34 and unemployed and your parents ask if you want to see Taken 2, you don't say no. This is ESPECIALLY true if you get to go to a movie like this with my father, whose favorite genre of film is "Rage-fuled revenge." My dad owns something like 300 DVDs and almost all of them (I think he owns Meet The Fockers) contain revenge as a major thematic component.

I was a little worried going into the movie that I wouldn't get the subtle nuances since I didn't see Taken. However, by the time a teenage girl was tossing grenades around Istanbul without any penalty, I was sold. Taken 2 was really great and dumb. It also had one of the strangest little scenes ever in any movie. SPOILERS! -- At the end of the movie, Liam Nesson and his family are getting ice cream. They are joined late by the daughter's new boyfriend. The family all ordered chocolate ice cream but got the boyfriend strawberry. WHAT IS THE FILMMAKER TRYING TO SAY WITH THIS CHOICE?
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Post by: masterofsparks on November 21, 2012, 10:47:33 AM
Taken 2 So I didn't work for a few months and had a depressive episode. I went up to stay with my parents for a weekend for a change of scenery.  When you're 34 and unemployed and your parents ask if you want to see Taken 2, you don't say no. This is ESPECIALLY true if you get to go to a movie like this with my father, whose favorite genre of film is "Rage-fuled revenge." My dad owns something like 300 DVDs and almost all of them (I think he owns Meet The Fockers) contain revenge as a major thematic component.

I was a little worried going into the movie that I wouldn't get the subtle nuances since I didn't see Taken. However, by the time a teenage girl was tossing grenades around Istanbul without any penalty, I was sold. Taken 2 was really great and dumb. It also had one of the strangest little scenes ever in any movie. SPOILERS! -- At the end of the movie, Liam Nesson and his family are getting ice cream. They are joined late by the daughter's new boyfriend. The family all ordered chocolate ice cream but got the boyfriend strawberry. WHAT IS THE FILMMAKER TRYING TO SAY WITH THIS CHOICE?

I haven't seen Taken 2 but I can recommend the first one, especially since it seemed like you enjoyed the second one. It definitely fits into the "dumb junky action thriller set in a European city" genre that seems to be Luc Besson's life's work. I went into Taken having heard Mark Kermode's review, which said something along the lines of "This movie is Liam Neeson kneeing foreigners in the face for 90 minutes." It delivered on that promise.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on November 21, 2012, 11:01:51 AM
Yeah, I would have really liked Taken, but I found it unsettling that the ticking time bomb element was that the virgin teenage daughter gets raped by sinister arabs if Liam Neeson takes too long to beat up Europe.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on November 23, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
Best film of 2012:

http://imposterfilm.com/ (http://imposterfilm.com/)
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Post by: dave from knoxville on November 24, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
Best film of 2012:

http://imposterfilm.com/ (http://imposterfilm.com/)

Is this a sincere recommendation, Omar?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Omar on November 24, 2012, 01:41:38 PM
Best film of 2012:

http://imposterfilm.com/ (http://imposterfilm.com/)

Is this a sincere recommendation, Omar?

All of my recommendations are sincere, Sir.  The Imposter is essential viewing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 25, 2012, 06:20:56 AM
Best film of 2012:

http://imposterfilm.com/ (http://imposterfilm.com/)

Is this a sincere recommendation, Omar?

All of my recommendations are sincere, Sir.  The Imposter is essential viewing.

Among "Things I Never Learn".....trust Best Show royalty implicitly.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on November 28, 2012, 04:56:06 PM
I watched Little Children the other day, was thoroughly disturbed by it, and decided one viewing was enough. And I hated the ending.

I also watched Lawless and was so unimpressed, I was out of the room for most of it and still managed to understand what was going on by the end...snore.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on November 28, 2012, 09:03:52 PM
I know I'm really late to the party on this, but I finally saw Hard Boiled for the first time last weekend. I was completely blown away by it. For my money, it's the most exciting film of the last 25 years.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: franknbeats on December 01, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
Definitely late to this one as well, but I watched The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford last night and was extremely impressed. Very excited to see Killing Them Softly now, though I've heard it's not as good.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on December 01, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
Killing Them Softly is a stylish crime movie with some clumsy, obvious "message" about the US economy. The performances are fantastic with some talky scenes to highlight them. I recommend a watch but temper your expectations.

However, as a follow up to The Assassination of Jesse James, one of my favorite movies of all time, it's very disappointing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on December 15, 2012, 02:22:14 PM
How great was The Color Wheel right?
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Post by: Purple Aki on December 16, 2012, 02:57:43 PM
I actually loved The Hobbit.
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Post by: JonFromMaplewood on December 16, 2012, 07:48:00 PM
If I wanted to watch Salem's Lot (1979) right now, how could I do it. Not breaking the law would be preferable. Thank you.
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Post by: cutout on December 24, 2012, 12:05:17 AM
I've noticed Tom and Julie K are both really good at factoring in the intended audience of something while critiquing it. Like talking about Bill Hicks' ranting  about the Backstreet Boys even though the music is clearly not made for someone like him.

I had that experience today seeing The Perks of Being a Wallflower. I knew nothing about it other than hearing it was a "smart" movie about difficult high school relationships. I guess I thought it would be like Freaks and Geeks, which I can still appreciate at age 37. But wow, this movie. It was a 2-hour after school special (there was the sensitive kid, the goth, the gay theater guy, the plucky girl, the inspiring English teacher), just hokey and cliche to the point of almost walking out. Like Juno, the 15-year olds spoke in overly clever, poetic dialogue and listened to The Shaggs and Nick Drake.  My date and I laughed openly throughout. I was sure the critics would hate it.

But I felt stupid when I got home and saw the rave reviews for it. Then I saw the IMDB forums where teenagers were saying it was the most meaningful movie they'd ever seen, much in the same way I might have after seeing The Breakfast Club way back when.

But even though it wasn't for me, I thought the dialogue and acting were conspicuously bad. Has anyone else seen it?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 24, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
I only watch the edited-for-tv version of The Breakfast Club now.

"I don't think I need to sit with you STINKIN' DUMMIES anymore."

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Post by: ndmvhc on December 26, 2012, 09:31:03 AM
Best film of 2012:

http://imposterfilm.com/ (http://imposterfilm.com/)

Is this a sincere recommendation, Omar?

All of my recommendations are sincere, Sir.  The Imposter is essential viewing.

Thanks for the recommendation. We watched this on Christmas eve and myself and everyone else were entertained. I was put off by the recreation scenes at the start but ended up not caring as the film went on. The private investigator is a star. "Adobe Photoshop."
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 26, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
The Hobbit is pretty good - sort of like a pointless detour where you get to see your old friends again.  Even after seeing it, I can't believe they decided to stretch it out to three movies.

Peter Jackson (and the original books) often flirted with spectacularly cringe-inducing hero-to-hero "you're so awesome" speeches during the first three films, but Thorin's speech to Bilbo at the end must set some kind of record for awfulness.

It's the classic - "classic"? - "I'm going to pretend to give a hard-edged speech about how you suck just so it will be all the more tear-jerking when I talk about how awesome you are" moment, but there is no possible way you could believe that he still believed Bilbo was a coward at that point. 

I saw it coming, and I had to watch it through my hands and I wanted to chuck popcorn at the screen.  No one else seemed to mind, though.  I thought big-city audiences in "now playing in selected theaters" theaters were sophisticated.*












* No, I didn't.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on December 27, 2012, 12:10:38 AM
The Hobbit is pretty good - sort of like a pointless detour where you get to see your old friends again.  Even after seeing it, I can't believe they decided to stretch it out to three movies.

True, but the next two might be better (paced).

I'm kind of surprised people who liked the Lord of the Rings trilogy don't like this one.  It's definitely in the same ballpark, if a little slower.

I really liked that little brook around the perimeter of the conference room type place in Rivendell.  Really cool looking.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormodd on December 27, 2012, 11:03:13 AM
My date and I laughed openly throughout. I was sure the critics would hate it.

But I felt stupid when I got home and saw the rave reviews for it. Then I saw the IMDB forums where teenagers were saying it was the most meaningful movie they'd ever seen, much in the same way I might have after seeing The Breakfast Club way back when.

But even though it wasn't for me, I thought the dialogue and acting were conspicuously bad. Has anyone else seen it?

Critics are ridiculous. See: overwhelmingly positive reviews of pieces of trash We Need To Talk About Kevin, Avatar, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. There has to be some payola involved in the making of these reviews, right?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 27, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
Or perhaps you just don't hold the keys to the universal opinion about what's good? (I really liked ...Kevin, disliked the other 2.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormodd on December 27, 2012, 01:55:38 PM
Perhaps. I didn't mean to sound all-knowing. It's just that some of these movies seem so objectively bad that the positive reviews seem almost bizarre. And I like far-fetched theories, so payola sounds like a good explanation.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Kormodd on December 27, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
And further proof of my stupidity is that I keep remembering the Kevin movie as "Let's Talk About Kevin," which makes it sound like a romantic comedy.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 28, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
"How About that Kevin, Sheesh"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on December 28, 2012, 09:32:42 AM
My pet theory is that mainstream movie critics tend to like the sorts of things that make their jobs seem important: middlebrow issue movies, historical dramas, literary adaptations. And likewise, they resent any movie that makes their jobs seem silly, like comedies, which almost never get good reviews. In the era of internet reviewers this has changed a little bit, but you still see it in reviews by the lamestream media.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 28, 2012, 09:59:04 AM
My pet theory is that mainstream movie critics tend to like the sorts of things that make their jobs seem important: middlebrow issue movies, historical dramas, literary adaptations. And likewise, they resent any movie that makes their jobs seem silly, like comedies, which almost never get good reviews. In the era of internet reviewers this has changed a little bit, but you still see it in reviews by the lamestream media.

And they can't resist movies that the majority of their audience can't make head or tail of, unless the audience member in question wishes to seem culturally enlightened. This year's example is The Master.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 28, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
My pet theory is that mainstream movie critics tend to like the sorts of things that make their jobs seem important: middlebrow issue movies, historical dramas, literary adaptations.

(cough, cough) Woody Allen (cough)
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Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on December 29, 2012, 05:54:47 AM
I think Bryan's right.  While I'm sure there's some payola (in the pre-blogspot days I was once approached by a now-defunct indie-movie company to become a "movie critic" with the sole purpose of upping their Rotten Tomatoes rating), no serious major reviewer would risk it.  Also likely is the fact that critics want to differentiate themselves from the pack; thus, you get the guy who'll go out on a limb and say "Luck" was a work of brilliance, just to get you to keep reading.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 29, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Also likely is the fact that critics want to differentiate themselves from the pack; thus, you get the guy who'll go out on a limb and say "Luck" was a work of brilliance, just to get you to keep reading.

Armond White has made a career of this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Smelodies on December 30, 2012, 12:49:18 AM
My pet theory is that mainstream movie critics tend to like the sorts of things that make their jobs seem important: middlebrow issue movies, historical dramas, literary adaptations. And likewise, they resent any movie that makes their jobs seem silly, like comedies, which almost never get good reviews. In the era of internet reviewers this has changed a little bit, but you still see it in reviews by the lamestream media.

And they can't resist movies that the majority of their audience can't make head or tail of, unless the audience member in question wishes to seem culturally enlightened. This year's example is The Master.

Yes, that was pointless.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: not that clay on December 30, 2012, 02:33:52 PM
Mainstream movie critics at this point are mostly unemployed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on December 30, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
My pet theory is that mainstream movie critics tend to like the sorts of things that make their jobs seem important: middlebrow issue movies, historical dramas, literary adaptations. And likewise, they resent any movie that makes their jobs seem silly, like comedies, which almost never get good reviews. In the era of internet reviewers this has changed a little bit, but you still see it in reviews by the lamestream media.

And they can't resist movies that the majority of their audience can't make head or tail of, unless the audience member in question wishes to seem culturally enlightened. This year's example is The Master.

Or the entirety of Jean-Luc Godard's output post-1967.

Although, truth be told, I don't care much for his pre-1967 output either.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on December 30, 2012, 07:05:38 PM

Or the entirety of Jean-Luc Godard's output post-1967.

Although, truth be told, I don't care much for his pre-1967 output either.


Well, he was a better captain than Kirk, and don't even get me started on Janeway.

What?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: B_Buster on January 04, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
My date and I laughed openly throughout. I was sure the critics would hate it.

But I felt stupid when I got home and saw the rave reviews for it. Then I saw the IMDB forums where teenagers were saying it was the most meaningful movie they'd ever seen, much in the same way I might have after seeing The Breakfast Club way back when.

But even though it wasn't for me, I thought the dialogue and acting were conspicuously bad. Has anyone else seen it?

Critics are ridiculous. See: overwhelmingly positive reviews of pieces of trash We Need To Talk About Kevin, Avatar, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. There has to be some payola involved in the making of these reviews, right?

Check out the raves for Django Unchained if you need more evidence of this.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on January 05, 2013, 03:42:27 PM
Has anyone here seen Looper? I'm a fan of Rian Johnson's work, but despite all the plaudits the film seemed to receive, I came away somewhat disappointed.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on January 05, 2013, 08:12:13 PM
I liked Looper well enough. I found I could see where things were going pretty early on, though. It delivered as an entertaining sci-fi film, I thought.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Gleepglop on January 06, 2013, 03:27:19 AM
Has anyone here seen Looper? I'm a fan of Rian Johnson's work, but despite all the plaudits the film seemed to receive, I came away somewhat disappointed.
I loved all of Brick and the first half of Brothers Bloom.

Looper was a fun, well-constructed summer movie, but lacked the spark that made those other two films interesting. It was cool to see JGL working with Johnson again, although I was freaked out by his makeup for pretty much the entire film. It was really distracting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 06, 2013, 12:05:57 PM
I watched Pina last night.  It was lovely.  I have never been much of a dance enthusiast, but Wim Wenders' camera work adds a dimension that makes the action so much more thrilling.

Also, the opening choreography to Stravinsky's "The Rite of Spring" floored me.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on January 06, 2013, 12:53:59 PM
In 3D?

It was the first 3D movie that I've seen that was really worth it. I thought that the interview scenes, strangely enough, were the most interesting use of 3D. I'd never seen anything like that before.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on January 06, 2013, 04:41:14 PM
Has anyone here seen Looper? I'm a fan of Rian Johnson's work, but despite all the plaudits the film seemed to receive, I came away somewhat disappointed.
I loved all of Brick and the first half of Brothers Bloom.

Looper was a fun, well-constructed summer movie, but lacked the spark that made those other two films interesting. It was cool to see JGL working with Johnson again, although I was freaked out by his makeup for pretty much the entire film. It was really distracting.

Yeah i  think they were to distracted with the script to figure out "wait a minute" Joseph and Bruce Willis look nothing alike how can we fix this. Just put ridiculous make up on him and shave his eyebrows.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on January 06, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
In 3D?

It was the first 3D movie that I've seen that was really worth it. I thought that the interview scenes, strangely enough, were the most interesting use of 3D. I'd never seen anything like that before.

Sadly not in 3D. Saw it on Netflix. Still amazing, though.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: BadGuyZero on January 06, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
Has anyone here seen Looper? I'm a fan of Rian Johnson's work, but despite all the plaudits the film seemed to receive, I came away somewhat disappointed.

I saw it four times during its theatrical run.

So yeah...I liked it.  ;D
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on January 06, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
"Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World"

I liked the writing.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Wes on January 08, 2013, 10:21:16 AM
I liked Looper well enough. I found I could see where things were going pretty early on, though. It delivered as an entertaining sci-fi film, I thought.
In terms of seeing things early on, I have to say that I appreciated a few of the things they managed to disguise. None of the trailers or pre-release discussion hinted at the other major sci-fi element in the movie, and it was mentioned kind of casually early enough and then moved to the background that just as I was starting to question if there was going to be a point to it, it came back full force and had me genuinely wondering if the time travel element was the feint and Johnson had secretly been doing a stealth Akira update all along or something crazy like that.

I really enjoyed the whole diner scene where the Willis version tries to blow off the time travel logic questions but then gets yanked back into trying to explain it, which I thought was a fun way of tackling the "either you accept this premise or you don't" issue. Plus the sequence at the end of that section where Young Joe helps the mob chase Old Joe, then the mob and Young Joe both realize that the mob should also be after Young Joe was a perfect, Daffy Duck-style time traveling hitman gag.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on February 09, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
I just saw 'This Is 40'. Please, don't make the same mistake. I even defended 'Funny People', but holy shit is TI40 a disaster. Unfunny, unstructured, relentlessly vulgar, with nothing at stake and annoying primary characters... A waste of a pretty great cast (and over 2 hours of my time). Sadly, the obnoxious commercials were a pretty accurate forecast of the film.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: YuriDedman on February 12, 2013, 05:14:47 PM
I saw This Is 40 when it seemed like everyone I knew was talking about it positively. Upon leaving the theater I wanted to make a Nixon-style enemies list (or at least a useless recommendation list.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Hugman 3.0 on February 26, 2013, 12:13:42 PM
Yuri, Bryan, how old are you? Just curious. Haven't seen This Is 40 yet, but I get the sense that it's wayyyyyy less palatable to people under 40.
 
In other news, I just saw End Of Watch.  Is there a genre called Copaganda?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on February 26, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
I'm 38 1/2.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: YuriDedman on February 26, 2013, 06:56:40 PM
You may be right, Hugman. I turned 28 last month.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Paul DeLouisiana on February 26, 2013, 11:54:49 PM
Red Flag, starring and directed by that dude from GIRLS, was pretty terrible. This movie contained some of the laziest writing. For instance they did that thing where a character decides to use a clean word instead of swearing and uses it throughout the movie like it's supposed to supply this ongoing supply of charming humor.
If you want to watch good mumble core-type stuff, watch Bad Fever or Open Five 2
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: nec13 on February 27, 2013, 11:05:03 PM
I finally got around to seeing "The Master." What an incredibly strange film. The acting was superb, I honestly can't say enough good things about Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman's performances. But on the whole, I felt like the film was a bit too ponderous and opaque for my tastes. That's the thing about Paul Thomas Anderson films, they don't offer easy answers or interpretations. "The Master" is no different.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on February 28, 2013, 04:37:28 PM
Comedy movies need to stop being 2 hours long. It's not podcasting.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 28, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
I saw This Is 40 when it seemed like everyone I knew was talking about it positively. Upon leaving the theater I wanted to make a Nixon-style enemies list (or at least a useless recommendation list.)

I'm waiting for "This Is Desperately Hanging On to 54".
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on February 28, 2013, 06:33:25 PM
I saw This Is 40 when it seemed like everyone I knew was talking about it positively. Upon leaving the theater I wanted to make a Nixon-style enemies list (or at least a useless recommendation list.)

I'm waiting for "This Is Desperately Hanging On to 54".
"This Was Fifty"
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on March 01, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
I finally got around to seeing "The Master." What an incredibly strange film. The acting was superb, I honestly can't say enough good things about Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman's performances. But on the whole, I felt like the film was a bit too ponderous and opaque for my tastes. That's the thing about Paul Thomas Anderson films, they don't offer easy answers or interpretations. "The Master" is no different.

Mark Kermode described it as "ambient filmmaking," which I really thought was a perfect description.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 01, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
Anybody ever seen any of the "__ Up" films?  They just released 56 Up and they sound somewhat interesting.  Those cats are (with luck) enough older than me that I'll get to see the last one - maybe I'll powerwatch them on the DVR of the Future.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Bryan on March 01, 2013, 11:52:30 AM
I've only seen the first one, which I thought was OK, but didn't excite me enough to see the rest. Though, I guess I can imagine that they might have a cumulative effect.

But also, England is depressing, and that doc captured that atmosphere all too well.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: YuriDedman on March 01, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
Comedy movies need to stop being 2 hours long. It's not podcasting.

I remember a friend of mine joking that movies are eventually going to be as long as seasons of TV shows, reasoning that movie makers will see shows like Breaking Bad or Mad Men get better reviews and in the logical fallacy of "affirming the consequent" make their dumb movies 13 X 45 minutes (or about 10 hours) long.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cutout on March 01, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
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For instance they did that thing where a character decides to use a clean word instead of swearing and uses it throughout the movie like it's supposed to supply this ongoing supply of charming humor.

I hope it wasn't "shut the front door!" instead of shut the fuck up. My uncle keeps trying to get that one started at every family event. Each time he looks around the room for applause which never comes.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on March 01, 2013, 05:02:53 PM
Anybody ever seen any of the "__ Up" films?  They just released 56 Up and they sound somewhat interesting.  Those cats are (with luck) enough older than me that I'll get to see the last one - maybe I'll powerwatch them on the DVR of the Future.

I just started watching these on Netflix. I just finished '28 Up'. I find them interesting, although at times the 'well look at me I'm just an average man/woman married with a house and kids' business in 28 Up got a bit dull after the rapid changes from 7-21. There's a lot about class in England and lack of social mobility in general that's interesting, and even the guy you at first think is going to be loathsome prep school villain actually displays some likable qualities (albeit ones that are vanishing, for example: 'England provided me with all these opportunities, so I feel a sense of loyalty and think it would be immoral to leave') and handles defending his image in the films about as well as anybody in a reality-type production can do.

The Neil character is also rather fascinating. I will stick with it and like you say maybe I'll get to see the last one someday.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: gravy boat on March 11, 2013, 05:23:23 PM
Watched "Compliance" over the weekend on netflix.  Definitely the most disturbing movie I've seen in a while, particularly since you know going in it's based on a true story. Heartbreaking. 
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on March 12, 2013, 01:18:36 AM
Watched "Compliance" over the weekend on netflix.  Definitely the most disturbing movie I've seen in a while, particularly since you know going in it's based on a true story. Heartbreaking.

I watched it over the weekend and I thought it was pretty good. I really hope they gave that girl free chicken sandwiches for life.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on March 12, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
I saw it this weekend, and don't quite know what to think of it. Hard to imagine no one would break out of this wacky little universe to try to get answers. One phone call to almost anybody would have brought the thing to a dead stop.

Watched "Compliance" over the weekend on netflix.  Definitely the most disturbing movie I've seen in a while, particularly since you know going in it's based on a true story. Heartbreaking.

I watched it over the weekend and I thought it was pretty good. I really hope they gave that girl free chicken sandwiches for life.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: buffcoat on March 12, 2013, 01:02:18 PM
I reread the real account after reading a summary of the movie and it turns out that the real-life incident was WORSE.

C'mon, people.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on July 06, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
I watched the Superman movie and it was alright, but there was one thing, that was totally off-putting:

The one Kryptonian lady, who came along with Zod, was beating up Superman at about the midpoint of the movie and had a little speech about how she had an evolutionary advantage over him as she had no moral hangups concerning murder.
Then she uttered the most stupid line ever:
"And if history tells us anything, it is that evolution always wins."

Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on July 06, 2013, 07:13:25 PM
She had evolutionary advantage over him as she had no moral hangups concerning murder.

"And if history tells us anything, it is that evolution always wins."


Who loses?

I have always disliked Superman.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: effecT on July 06, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Who loses?

I think the scientists and teachers around the globe trying to explain evolution to comic nerds lose.

But on th issue of the movie, I think that you can kind of guess the winner of the confrontation from the title of the movie


I have always disliked Superman.

Yup, same here...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on July 07, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
I have always disliked Superman.

Superdickery.com does a pretty good job of compiling evidence that Superman is, and has ever been, a dick.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: wood and iron on July 07, 2013, 01:25:44 PM
Even though it's become cliche and used against him, Superman works best to my mind as the "big blue Boy Scout." I think an upstanding and not necessarily complicated hero is a great thing to have in a world saturated with dark and brooding anti-heroes. I haven't read all of it but I appreciated Grant Morrison's recent try at remaking Superman into the liberal do-gooder that Siegel and Shuster originally envisioned him as. He was the immigrant with more strength than you who can knock the block off slumlords and Hitler.

Granted, being noble and a shining beacon of hope is not exactly a great generator of stories and that's why I think Superman tends to work better in contrast to other characters like Batman.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 16, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
Inside Llewyn Davis. Hoo boy. I am a rare instance of someone who doesn't expect much from the Coen brothers, so I wasn't exactly surprised by what an empty shell of a movie this is, but I at least expected it to be a fairly lively picture of a time and place. Pretty much a dud in that regard--the Greenwich Village scenes in I'm Not There were vastly more evocative. I have no idea what made the Coens think they had a movie here. They didn't have a story. They didn't have an interesting point-of-view character. It turns out that even if they did have feelings for the locale and period, they didn't have a way to put them on screen. And if they had a feeling for the best of the music that emerged from that scene, they did themselves a disservice by getting T-Bone "NPR-Ready" Burnett to orchestrate their simulacra, because the Dylan and Van Ronk songs that play over the end credits put to shame the pretty, anodyne tunelets that dominate the soundtrack. Can anyone explain to me why anyone would like this movie, or why it has a 95% score from critics on Rotten Tomatoes?--Oh, wait, I know the answer to that last one: it's because it's the Coen brothers. No other answer is possible.

(Fairness Update: The best thing about the movie is the Olds. This is one thing the Coens are pretty good at: Gnarled, hard-boiled old fucks with no time for bullshit, played by weatherbeaten old character actors. John Goodman, F. Murray Abraham, and the cranky old maritime union guys are just about the only signs of life onscreen--in fact, any of 'em would have made a more compelling central character than what we got.)
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Joe Rogaine on December 17, 2013, 01:32:41 AM
Inside Llewyn Davis. Hoo boy. I am a rare instance of someone who doesn't expect much from the Coen brothers, so I wasn't exactly surprised by what an empty shell of a movie this is, but I at least expected it to be a fairly lively picture of a time and place. Pretty much a dud in that regard--the Greenwich Village scenes in I'm Not There were vastly more evocative. I have no idea what made the Coens think they had a movie here. They didn't have a story. They didn't have an interesting point-of-view character. It turns out that even if they did have feelings for the locale and period, they didn't have a way to put them on screen. And if they had a feeling for the best of the music that emerged from that scene, they did themselves a disservice by getting T-Bone "NPR-Ready" Burnett to orchestrate their simulacra, because the Dylan and Van Ronk songs that play over the end credits put to shame the pretty, anodyne tunelets that dominate the soundtrack. Can anyone explain to me why anyone would like this movie, or why it has a 95% score from critics on Rotten Tomatoes?--Oh, wait, I know the answer to that last one: it's because it's the Coen brothers. No other answer is possible.

(Fairness Update: The best thing about the movie is the Olds. This is one thing the Coens are pretty good at: Gnarled, hard-boiled old fucks with no time for bullshit, played by weatherbeaten old character actors. John Goodman, F. Murray Abraham, and the cranky old maritime union guys are just about the only signs of life onscreen--in fact, any of 'em would have made a more compelling central character than what we got.)


Sounds pretty good!
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: masterofsparks on December 18, 2013, 09:00:56 AM
I'm interested in seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, but I won't do it until I can find out whether the cat dies. Seriously.
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: fonpr on December 18, 2013, 10:50:54 AM
I'm interested in seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, but I won't do it until I can find out whether the cat dies. Seriously.
What if the cat dies humorously?
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: dave from knoxville on December 18, 2013, 12:01:59 PM
I'm interested in seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, but I won't do it until I can find out whether the cat dies. Seriously.

Dear MoS,

We all die. So far.

Your pal,

dfk
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: Trotskie on December 18, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
I'm interested in seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, but I won't do it until I can find out whether the cat dies. Seriously.

J.T. 1969 (ghetto NYC) a black kid befriends a cat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS2flty4wA4#)

I saw this in 7th grade and from that point on could not wait to discover, explore and live in NYC. And it instilled in me a life-long love and appreciation of cats.

I highly recommend that you *not* watch this movie...
Title: Re: General Movie Thread
Post by: cavorting with nudists on December 18, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
I'm interested in seeing Inside Llewyn Davis, but I won't do it until I can find out whether the cat dies. Seriously.

I will spoil this for you, but I don't suggest you see the movie anyway, 'cause it stinks.

SPOILER ALERT: It's kind of ambiguous. But there are a couple of brief moments that will cause cat lovers (I'm one) some pain.