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The Best Show on WFMU => Mike And His Ilk. => Topic started by: gravy boat on February 18, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
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HBO's True Detective?
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Mike Lisk @APMike Feb 10
I'm pretty certain that by the end of its first season #TrueDetective will have set a new standard for incoherent storytelling.
I wonder what Mike thinks of Charles Dickens.
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I haven't read a whole lot of Dickens. Bleak House and Great Expectations: top tier. Hard Times: 2nd tier. I want to read David Copperfield and Dombey & Son before I croak.
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I think True Detective is pretty ridiculous, but it has inspired me. Stay tuned!
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I haven't read a whole lot of Dickens. Bleak House and Great Expectations: top tier. Hard Times: 2nd tier. I want to read David Copperfield and Dombey & Son before I croak.
Copperfield is a must. Dombey and Son is all right. How I'd rank his oeuvre (or what I've read of it):
Great Expectations
David Copperfield
The Pickwick Papers
A Christmas Carol
Oliver Twist
Bleak House
A Tale of Two Cities
Hard Times
Martin Chuzzlewit
Dombey and Son
Nicholas Nickleby
The Old Curiosity Shop
I've never read A Mutual Friend, but I hear it's fantastic.
I'm looking forward to the wig video, Mike.
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"Friday Night Lights" (the TV series) and/or "Nashville" (the TV series)
I wonder what Mike thinks of Connie Britton. 'cuz she's alright by me.
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"Friday Night Lights" (the TV series) and/or "Nashville" (the TV series)
I wonder what Mike thinks of Connie Britton. 'cuz she's alright by me.
I liked the first couple of seasons of Friday Night Lights, but then one of the characters got involved in a murder and the show drifted toward TV Cliche Land and I stopped watching. But those first couple seasons proved that ordinary life can be very compelling.
I liked Connie Britton in Friday Night Lights. I haven't seen Nashville. Is it good?
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Middlemarch?
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William Vollmann
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The Expedition of Humphry Clinker
H.L. Mencken
The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling
Timon of Athens
The Draughtsman's Contract
W.C. Fields
Robert Bresson
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Middlemarch?
Haven't read it. I still have my copy from a college course I took, but the class fell behind and we never got to it. I tried to read it once but I didn't get too far. Joyce Carol Oates caught hell recently in The New York Times Book Review for suggesting that it's not all that. I did read The Mill on the Floss, though, and enjoyed it.
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William Vollmann
I've got a couple of his books, but haven't taken the plunge yet. Where should I start?
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The Expedition of Humphry Clinker
H.L. Mencken
The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling
Timon of Athens
The Draughtsman's Contract
W.C. Fields
Robert Bresson
Read Humphry Clinker and Tom Jones for the same class (even wrote a paper on Humphry Clinker). I can't remember much about Clinker, but Tom Jones was a fun read. Haven't read much Mencken, but I've recently received the The Library of America volumes. Timon of Athens isn't really a favorite. I'd rather read Hamlet or King Lear again. I don't think I've seen The Draughtsman's Contract although I saw a bunch of Greenaway's movies around the time it came out. Yes, I like W. C. Fields. Yes, I like Robert Bresson.
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I'm surprised that you didn't like Timon of Athens (or, rather, that it wasn't a favorite). I thought the long misanthropic speeches of Timon would be up your alley.
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And if you like Hamlet and King Lear, you should check out Kozintsev's adaptations of them. They're in Russian, but the subtitles are lines from the play (so they're not loose adaptations like Throne of Blood or Ran). King Lor, to my mind, has by far the best Lear and Fool I've seen in any Lear adaptation. There are clips available of both films on YouTube.
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I'll check them out. Timon is fine, it's just not on the same level as Hamlet, Lear, Othello, and Macbeth.
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Not many things are. Though I'd put Henry IV above Macbeth and Othello. And maybe Richard II, Henry V and Antony and Cleopatra above Othello.
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A Fan's Notes
Confederacy of Dunces
Vonnegut
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A Fan's Notes
Confederacy of Dunces
Vonnegut
Love A Fan's Notes. Love A Confederacy of Dunces. Loved Vonnegut when I was young man (not so sure if I'd love him as much today).
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A Fan's Notes
Confederacy of Dunces
Vonnegut
Love A Fan's Notes. Love A Confederacy of Dunces. Loved Vonnegut when I was young man (not so sure if I'd love him as much today).
It'a acceptable to enjoy Vonnegut when you're in high school. Afterwards, not as much.
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A Fan's Notes
Confederacy of Dunces
Vonnegut
Love A Fan's Notes. Love A Confederacy of Dunces. Loved Vonnegut when I was young man (not so sure if I'd love him as much today).
It'a acceptable to enjoy Vonnegut when you're in high school. Afterwards, not as much.
For me it literally was the summer between high school and college.
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1. Marijuana
2. Coke
3. Acid
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1. Marijuana
2. Coke
3. Acid
Ask him tonight at 9 P.M.. On SKYPE!
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1. Marijuana
2. Coke
3. Acid
Ask him tonight at 9 P.M.. On SKYPE!
I'll be there!
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Questions about these subjects were not asked! Very disappointed.
But from what I recall from previous Skype chats is that Mike doesn't like pot and did coke once and found it boring. I vaguely remember him saying that he's never tried LSD. So there you have it.
- Mike's Biographer
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I know, I froze up again! Don't know why I am so shy about it...I am going to write some questions I've always wanted to ask and take a shot or two for courage!
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Right-oh.
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Right-oh.
If you see "Epic Soundtracks" signed in, that's me lurking so call me out! Such a chicken...how many other people were in attendance and not talking, btw?
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I don't think you need alcohol to talk. Just talk. No one (except me and a bunch of other people) is going to judge you.
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1. Marijuana
2. Coke
3. Acid
Kormodd is eerily spot on. I don't like marijuana (too unpredictable), or coke (not a fan of "the drips"), or acid (never tried it--too afraid I'd go insane ala Syd Barrett).
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Haha, I came in here to ask what Mike thinks of A Fan's Notes, but someone beat me to it.
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The TV series Fargo?
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It's OK. Billy Bob is particularly good.
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Billy Bob Thornton in that show seems like he just stepped out of a Cormac McCarthy novel.
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He reminds me at times of Dylan being interviewed.
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The Leftovers?
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I'm not watching The Leftovers (heard too many bad things). My new Sunday night show is Ray Donovan. It's so hyper-masculine that it would make Sam Peckinpah blush. It just makes me laugh (like True Detective made me laugh).
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I'm not watching The Leftovers (heard too many bad things). My new Sunday night show is Ray Donovan. It's so hyper-masculine that it would make Sam Peckinpah blush. It just makes me laugh (like True Detective made me laugh).
The Leftovers is pretty terrible, its whats making me laugh at the moment.
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"The Singularity".
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I wonder what Mike thinks of Tim & Eric?
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I wonder what Mike thinks of Tim & Eric?
He has talked about this, I seem to recall.
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I enjoyed The Comedy.
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Run, Lola, Run
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I saw it when it came out. It was OK. Did you have to be on speed to really enjoy it? Never felt the need to revisit.
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Barbara Pym?
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Mike Francesa falling asleep on live TV again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiul8UWrY5w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiul8UWrY5w)
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Love it!
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Piehole Whiskey
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Tilda Swinton's character in Snowpiercer?
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Tilda Swinton's character in Snowpiercer?
Just watched this last week. I give em all the credit in the world for actually trying to do something with a movie plot, unlike most of the other movies I've seen in the past 3 years.
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I'm unfamiliar with Piehole and Snowpiercer. Will get back to you after I've done the research.
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The British tv show Black Mirror.
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Haven't seen Black Mirror. Fill me in. Tried to watch The Game on BBC America. A real snooze.
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Black Mirror just got added to netflix. Kind of a twilight zone anthology feel where the crazy twist at the end of each episode revolves around the horrors of modern technology.
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Black Mirror just got added to netflix. Kind of a twilight zone anthology feel where the crazy twist at the end of each episode revolves around the horrors of modern technology.
I just watched the first episode and the "Entire History of You" episode the other day, so far its good stuff. There is no way something like that first episode would get shown on air in the US, its depravity seems like something right up Mike's alley.
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The return of The Best Show?
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- Dario Argento's movies.
- Scott Walker (the singer, not the Wisconsin ghoul, obv).
- Television's Adventure.
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The possibility that Thomas Pynchon may look like Pauly Walnuts, per his cameo in Inherent Vice.
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The return of The Best Show?
I'm thrilled!
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- Dario Argento's movies.
- Scott Walker (the singer, not the Wisconsin ghoul, obv).
- Television's Adventure.
1. Yuck.
2. Not a fan.
3. Love it.
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The possibility that Thomas Pynchon may look like Pauly Walnuts, per his cameo in Inherent Vice.
That picture of Pynchon when he was young looks a little like my father when he was that age. And since my father and Pynchon are about the same age, I just figured Pynchon would look a little like my father. I've seen that photo of the guy who stalked him on the Upper West Side, though, and he looks a little more like Lou Reed (it looks like he dyes his hair).
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The possibility that Thomas Pynchon may look like Pauly Walnuts, per his cameo in Inherent Vice.
That picture of Pynchon when he was young looks a little like my father when he was that age. And since my father and Pynchon are about the same age, I just figured Pynchon would look a little like my father. I've seen that photo of the guy who stalked him on the Upper West Side, though, and he looks a little more like Lou Reed (it looks like he dyes his hair).
I haven't seen any of those, but did you see the guy that people think is Pynchon in Inherent Vice?
Here is a link, apparently that's him sitting at the table around the 40 second mark of the trailer, does he look similar to the ones you are referring to?
http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1 (http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1)
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The possibility that Thomas Pynchon may look like Pauly Walnuts, per his cameo in Inherent Vice.
That picture of Pynchon when he was young looks a little like my father when he was that age. And since my father and Pynchon are about the same age, I just figured Pynchon would look a little like my father. I've seen that photo of the guy who stalked him on the Upper West Side, though, and he looks a little more like Lou Reed (it looks like he dyes his hair).
I haven't seen any of those, but did you see the guy that people think is Pynchon in Inherent Vice?
Here is a link, apparently that's him sitting at the table around the 40 second mark of the trailer, does he look similar to the ones you are referring to?
http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1 (http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1)
Yeah. You can get a better look at the 57 second mark here:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/100000003298787/anatomy-of-a-scene-inherent-vice.html (http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/100000003298787/anatomy-of-a-scene-inherent-vice.html)
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Tom Wolfe?
(Just started working through The Bonfire of the Vanities)
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The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, The Right Stuff, and Bonfire of the Vanities were great, but he lost me with that novella that was published in Rolling Stone Magazine (I can't even remember the name of it). And the reviews for his last couple books were mixed, so I didn't bother.
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Sometimes A Great Notion?
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Sometimes a Great Notion is nuts in a good way. Not a great book (it's way too baggy) but I'm glad I read it.
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David Mitchell (author of The Bone Clocks, Cloud Atlas)?
I was thinking of reading one or both of these. (I've seen Cloud Atlas the film and am still trying to sort it out in my head)
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I have Cloud Atlas, but haven't read it yet. I hear that's the one to start with.
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I have Cloud Atlas, but haven't read it yet. I hear that's the one to start with.
Cloud Atlas is a really good read, but I think I prefer A Thousand Autumns of Jacob De Zoet. Start anywhere really. That dude can write.
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The possibility that Thomas Pynchon may look like Pauly Walnuts, per his cameo in Inherent Vice.
That picture of Pynchon when he was young looks a little like my father when he was that age. And since my father and Pynchon are about the same age, I just figured Pynchon would look a little like my father. I've seen that photo of the guy who stalked him on the Upper West Side, though, and he looks a little more like Lou Reed (it looks like he dyes his hair).
That dude seated at the table during the tour of the rehab place isn't him. His name is Charley Morgan and his IMDB entry says he was also in The Master.
The current thinking is that Pynchon is visible reflected in the window behind Sportello and the sax player as they sit at the kitchen table at the rock band's pad. Wearing shades and a wig, could very well be him.
I haven't seen any of those, but did you see the guy that people think is Pynchon in Inherent Vice?
Here is a link, apparently that's him sitting at the table around the 40 second mark of the trailer, does he look similar to the ones you are referring to?
http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1 (http://laist.com/2014/12/14/photos_thomas_pynchons_apartment_in.php#photo-1)
Yeah. You can get a better look at the 57 second mark here:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/100000003298787/anatomy-of-a-scene-inherent-vice.html (http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/100000003298787/anatomy-of-a-scene-inherent-vice.html)
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well that's fucking irritating, didn't post my reply when i did the "quote" thing. Long and short, that's not Pynchon at the rehab place, his name is Charley Morgan and he's in the Master. Current thinking is Pynchon can be seen reflected in the window behind Phoenix and Wilson as they are seated at the kitchen table at the rock band's place. Wearing sunglasses and a wig, could very well be him.
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well that's fucking irritating, didn't post my reply when i did the "quote" thing. Long and short, that's not Pynchon at the rehab place, his name is Charley Morgan and he's in the Master. Current thinking is Pynchon can be seen reflected in the window behind Phoenix and Wilson as they are seated at the kitchen table at the rock band's place. Wearing sunglasses and a wig, could very well be him.
Calm down Epic. Get on Skype.
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Are you talking about the guy at the first table or the second? The guy at the second table looks like the photo of Pynchon taken by a stalker/journalist (you can find the article online).
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Are you talking about the guy at the first table or the second? The guy at the second table looks like the photo of Pynchon taken by a stalker/journalist (you can find the article online).
I agree, as much as you can say someone looks like someone.
I will say, though, that being shown that clearly in that scene does not fit with how hard he's worked to keep himself anonymous.
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Are you talking about the guy at the first table or the second? The guy at the second table looks like the photo of Pynchon taken by a stalker/journalist (you can find the article online).
It is amazing how much the guy at the second table looks EXACTLY like you'd guess Pynchon to look based on that college photo. But if you google the actor Charley Morgan, you'll see it's him. I'm much more convinced by the dude reflected in the window--counts as a cameo but very well veiled
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Yeah, the guy in the reflection is probably him. I read somewhere that Pynchon has a mustache.
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well that's fucking irritating, didn't post my reply when i did the "quote" thing. Long and short, that's not Pynchon at the rehab place, his name is Charley Morgan and he's in the Master. Current thinking is Pynchon can be seen reflected in the window behind Phoenix and Wilson as they are seated at the kitchen table at the rock band's place. Wearing sunglasses and a wig, could very well be him.
Thats what Anderson said in the Maron interview I believe.
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This cartoon?
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/816802b68a320b7ad35cac4671732686/tumblr_n8wzh0whs41qzy30io1_r1_1280.gif)
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I draw the line at Grateful Dead cartoons, fonpr.
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I draw the line at Grateful Dead cartoons, fonpr.
Je Sus....
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I wonder what Mike thinks of the movie Sweet Smell of Success.
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I wonder what Mike thinks of The Grateful Dead/ Ken Kesey ballet.
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I wonder what Mike thinks of the return of Twin Peaks...
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1. I liked it.
2. Sounds dreadful.
3. I'm optimistic. Because I'm an optimist when it comes to Twin Peaks.
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Hey Mike, they're going to need to cast some more folks in the new Twin Peaks...do you have a fantasy cast by any chance? I'd love to see a you and Tom with a cameo. Or Bruno S. But that may be too on the nose.
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Yeah, that's going to happen, I'm sure. Also, sadly, Bruno S. has left this mortal coil.
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I wonder what Mike thinks of Michael Kupperman's work?
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Harry Crews
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Episcopalians.
I ask because we just got done watching Tree Of Life.
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I've been lax in familiarizing myself with Michale Kupperman's and Harry Crews work. Where do I start?
Is Tree of Life about Episcopalians?! Do I have to watch it again?
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I've been lax in familiarizing myself with Michale Kupperman's and Harry Crews work. Where do I start?
Is Tree of Life about Episcopalians?! Do I have to watch it again?
Shades may have more ideas, but I have read Crews' "A Feast of Snakes" and "Scar Lover." Both were crazy-insane and had some brilliant writing in them, but I wouldn't expect characters you necessarily would root for. Also, I wasn't quite satisfied where "A Feast of Snakes" ended up, though it might deserve a re-read. I would recommend reading Crews, though, and would say, of those two, A Feast of Snakes is a better start. But again, Shades may be more of a Crews scholar. :D
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.... and Harry Crews work. Where do I start?
I was hoping you could tell me.
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Kevin Smith confirms he's making Mallrats 2
http://uproxx.com/movies/2015/03/kevin-smith-is-definitely-making-a-sequel-to-mallrats/ (http://uproxx.com/movies/2015/03/kevin-smith-is-definitely-making-a-sequel-to-mallrats/)
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Performing live with Scharpling & Wurster?
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It was fun! Although I do regret calling for "another Altamont" at one point.
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I've been lax in familiarizing myself with Michale Kupperman's and Harry Crews work. Where do I start?
I've been a big fan of Kupperman's work for years. Assuming you enjoy Dadaist escapades into pulpy genre fiction, I would recommend Snake and Bacon's Cartoon Cavalcade. Kupperman's later work has more of a structure (ie Mark Twain's autobiography), but the Cavalcade is more like a chocolate box, single servings of a wide variety. I'd hope this might draw you in:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/funkypresident/sexblimp.jpg)
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All of the great guests on The Best Show recently?
(Do you have a favorite? And if so, why?)
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All of the great guests on The Best Show recently?
(Do you have a favorite? And if so, why?)
(http://breathlessmini.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/crw_8939-copy.jpg)
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Auer is a fucking national treasure.