Author Topic: Battlestar Galactica Finale  (Read 3512 times)

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2009, 05:15:18 PM »
When he said "I don't have much time" I do think he was referencing Laura's impending death. However, I think he stayed away because he was just through being with people. And they'd probably look to him to lead and he was just over with that. Near the end, he was practically jumping at the chance to lob the Admiral-ship off on anybody, it seemed to me. So it makes sense to me that he'd just want to be alone.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2009, 05:46:20 PM »
Recently a man in Bellevue, Washington, finding that his car would not go through some six inches of snow, became enraged and attacked the automobile. He broke out the car’s windows with a tire iron and emptied a revolver into its side. “He killed it,” said police. “It’s a case of autocide.”

Such wanton acts of violence are not limited to Coke machines, photocopiers, public telephones, and other gizmos that steal our dimes and quarters. In 1979, a sheriff in California shot a large mainframe computer for uncontrollably spewing out arrest records. As if to even the score, that same year a one-ton Litton Industries mobile robot stalked and killed a human warehouse worker who trespassed on the machine’s turf during business hours. The worker’s family sued Litton and was awarded a $10-million judgment, but the surly robot got off with a slap on the sensor.

Under present law, robots are just inanimate property without rights or duties. Computers aren’t legal persons and have no standing in the judicial system. As such, computers and robots may not be the perpetrators of a felony; a man who dies at the hands of a robot has not been murdered. (An entertaining episode of the old Outer Limits TV series, entitled “I, Robot,” involved a court trial of a humanoid robot accused of murdering its creator.) But blacks, children, women, foreigners, corporations, prisoners, and Jews have all been regarded as legal nonpersons at some time in history. Certainly any self-aware robot that speaks English and is able to recognize moral alternatives, and thus make moral choices, should be considered a worthy “robot person” in our society. If that is so, shouldn’t they also possess the rights and duties of all citizens?
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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 06:22:17 PM »
Certainly any self-aware robot that speaks English and is able to recognize moral alternatives, and thus make moral choices, should be considered a worthy “robot person” in our society. If that is so, shouldn’t they also possess the rights and duties of all citizens?

This is one of the reasons I'm against AI, because there will invariably be abuse of life. Yes, artificial life but still life.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2009, 11:13:07 PM »
The Left Behind Series + The Unabomber Manifesto = BSG Finale

I have to say this was a pretty huge disappointment for me.   A few of the more poignant moments were done nicely (Baltar tearing up for example) but the whole "angel" thing was an indication that Moore and company had no idea what they were doing.  It seemed like for the past season or two that the plot was dictating the characters' actions as opposed to the other way around.  Baltar's transformation into reluctant prophet was the first indication to me that something was VERY off.  They took one of the most interesting characters of recent memory and turned him into someone of Highway to Heaven. 

But lots of other people seemed to like it so I just not have gotten it.  Regardless, BSG provided me a shit load of entertainment these last few years and I'll be forever grateful.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2009, 06:39:25 AM »
It seemed like for the past season or two that the plot was dictating the characters' actions as opposed to the other way around.

I watched "The Last Frakkin' Special" the other day, and Moore (I guess) confirmed that this was certainly the case in the finale.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2009, 10:09:19 AM »
I thought it was pretty good - or at least, a little better than I expected. Some good action stuff. That was really what I liked most about it. Did anyone ever give a shit about the mythology stuff? I'm just glad I don't have to watch Katee Sackhoff act ever again.


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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2009, 10:37:34 AM »
And a big thumbs down to: Ron Moore's cameo. He might as well have winked at the camera!
Thumbs up: Bill Adama vomiting on himself.
Undecided: Baltar saving the day by spouting his usual horseshit.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2009, 07:15:06 PM »
Speaking of being too on the nose, this was only a small moment, but the one thing that really irritated me was when Starbuck is scrambling to choose a jump destination and "All Along the Watchtower" starts playing in the background and she says, "There must be some way out of here." UGH. In all caps!
I'll probably go into the wee hours.

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Re: Battlestar Galactica Finale
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2009, 06:32:34 AM »
The entire "All Along the Watchtower" gimmick was embarrassing.