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Oogie

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 06:26:55 PM »
Exactly.
I don't have a problem with what she's doing apart from it being a transparently contrived stab at causing controversy and ultimately extremely boring.
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I dunno. If she were taking pills to make parts of her liver, pop out, or brain, would that raise your red flags?

I went to one of my wife's crits a while back, and this lady art student had baked all these cakes (shaped like soccer balls, etc). She had apparently been ripped on for baking the cakes in an earlier crit, and so in this one she kind of was made up like a zombie housewife, and then she proceeded to demolish the cakes (kicking them, etc.) This one critic on the panel, who was this kind of tall, hideous frankenstein looking dude, said that she should have destroyed the cakes by rubbing them on their vagina so that they would "mingle with her juices."

This is a 50 year old, relatively powerful, and horribly unattractive man talking to a 20-something, quite attractive grad student.

Can you imagine that discourse happening in a public space anywhere but in an "art" context?

This poor woman's actions, inducing multiple abortions, is really a statement on what is expected of female artists. Outside of the feminist discourse (which treats women as empowered meat rather than just plain old SPAM) the art world is the creepiest group of misogynistic old bastards this side of Bohemian Grove.

I don't think she's actually making that statement with her work (which I will say I find absolutely repulsive. It is not only dangerous to her body, but makes a mockery of any reasonable opinion of abortion and abortion rights, IMHO) but the fact that she felt that she should/could use her body, and exploit the most natural and definitively "female" function that there is, to garner attention/praise/etc., seems not to come from any level of empowerment, but the supreme degradation that is inherent to the patriarchal art world.

Fuck it.


Well done, art fag, well done.
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Chris L

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 06:39:11 PM »
I went to one of my wife's crits a while back, and this lady art student had baked all these cakes (shaped like soccer balls, etc). She had apparently been ripped on for baking the cakes in an earlier crit, and so in this one she kind of was made up like a zombie housewife, and then she proceeded to demolish the cakes (kicking them, etc.) This one critic on the panel, who was this kind of tall, hideous frankenstein looking dude, said that she should have destroyed the cakes by rubbing them on their vagina so that they would "mingle with her juices."

This is a 50 year old, relatively powerful, and horribly unattractive man talking to a 20-something, quite attractive grad student.

Can you imagine that discourse happening in a public space anywhere but in an "art" context?

You mean besides FOTChan?

Oogie

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 06:41:40 PM »
"You mean besides FOTChan?"

Shut up wise guy or I'll cunt punch you!
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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 06:47:23 PM »
...Er, if it's not all a hoax.

When i read that on WorldNetDaily I'll believe it.
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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 06:49:55 PM »
If it is a hoax then my opinion of her is reversed, that's pretty cool to get the am radio crew all riled up.
However, she seems really annoying in that clip.

John Junk 2.0

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2008, 07:18:52 PM »
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

There were rumours of  a student planning on doing something like this at the school where I work last year.  This was a pretty delusional student who had lots of half-baked political ideas but no real sense of civic (or general) responsibility.  Word got out to the faculty and they either talked her out of it, or she just didn't bother going ahead with it (honestly that's like months of homework).  I'm in charge of generally keeping the galleries in shape and I heard about this.  I was truly upset by it, but by the end of the week I was like "as long as she puts down a tarp". The kicker was that it was supposed to be a work about feminism.

But because I've heard rumors about this happening somewhere else, I'd say it's very likely a hoax anyway.  Or at least I'd like to think that. If nothing else, it's not original.  I hope this girl is ready to receive multiple death threats a day.

Calling the sperm donors "fabricators" is truly pathetic, but it also might be a tip-off that it's bullshit, and actually meant as a critique of sensationalism in the (campus) media.

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2008, 07:25:20 PM »
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.
I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

KickTheBobo

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 07:59:39 PM »
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OY0FvhypaY[/youtube]

Chris L

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 09:03:39 PM »
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

I was only associating myself with someone detestable to accomplish a nebulous goal.  It's what Hilary would have done. 

John Junk 2.0

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 09:05:27 PM »
I'm as suspicious of the authenticity of her claims as that right-wing blowhard Chris L linked to.

I was only associating myself with someone detestable to accomplish a nebulous goal.  It's what Hilary would have done. 

Understood.

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2008, 10:26:03 AM »
"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

Bobo,

Is that a "Greystoke: Legend of Tarzan" reference?  Cause if not, it should be, cause it would be, if it is.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1IA8AS-as[/youtube]

I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

Pat K

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Re: abortion-art?
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 11:51:27 AM »
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"Mirror. Father. Mirror."

I love that other people out there are still throwing around "Mirror Father Mirror". That's long been adopted as an easy shorthand term for that kind of bullshit art amongst me and my friends, and it's terrifically useful.

As in, "Should I go to so-and-so's exhibition?" "Ugh, don't bother. Very 'mirror father mirror'."
I'm warning you with peace and love.