Author Topic: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07  (Read 20525 times)

erika

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2007, 12:33:30 PM »
I'm from MD and I'm neutral.

Henceforth, I'm going to fill Patton's thread with happy pictures of peace and love:







And this uber adorable picture of Grumpus as a puppy.



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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2007, 01:48:34 PM »
I just want everyone to know that I certainly didn't call in to brag.  Tom is the wisest man in radio, in my book, and I wanted some guidance, since I'm at a real crossroads.

His advice was tough to swallow, but I'm thinking about it very seriously.  Jordan's coming in later today, and I haven't decided whether I've got the guts to follow through, but I'm trying to find the strength in my heart.

Jesse

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2007, 02:26:56 PM »
I'm trying to find the strength in my heart.

If that's the case, try not to look at that adorable picture of Grumpus as a puppy.

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2007, 02:59:10 PM »
I just want everyone to know that I certainly didn't call in to brag.  Tom is the wisest man in radio, in my book, and I wanted some guidance, since I'm at a real crossroads.

His advice was tough to swallow, but I'm thinking about it very seriously.  Jordan's coming in later today, and I haven't decided whether I've got the guts to follow through, but I'm trying to find the strength in my heart.

Jesse

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dave from knoxville

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2007, 03:52:48 PM »
I listened to the archive, and Mr Oswald was very funny. So I pursued some of his further material on Youtube, and I have the same questioned I posed on the chat.....why all the toilet talk? I'm no prude, it just seems so gratuitous and.....unnecessary. I like Tom and Jon's theory that the FCC checks on language on WFMU create a tension that is part of what makes the show even funnier than it would be if it were run like a Howard Stern crapfest. "Devices" anyone?

PS, I am a big Zappa fan (I apologize, but you have to be what you are), but the same argument goes there. The "PG" records like Apostrophe and The Grand Wazoo are among the best stuff, as far as I am concerned.

Sadly, I can't figure out how to embed Youtube videos; nor even find the right thread to make that sorry claim.


TL

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2007, 05:00:11 PM »
Well...  I do find the "s-hit list" and "Can I say...(blank)?" stuff that Tom and Jon do hilarious, but I, personally, have a pretty terlitty terlett mouth, especially when I get wound up, and I find the sort of vernacular Patton uses to be just "amped-up conversational."  It's exactly how I would talk with my friends and (some of my) family when babbling animatedly about some subject or other.

I wonder, though, if there's not another more serious aspect of the particular tone that Patton and others (David Cross?) use in a lot of their bits - so much of the underlying premise of so much of their material is incredulity at the state of modern life, and it seems to me that it naturally leads to expressions of gob-smacked amazement laced with anger, in a "WTF??!?!?!?" kind of way.  Is the nature of the material, i.e. "the state of the world" (if you're taking the general tack that there's a lot of crappy stuff worth getting worked into a lather over), part of the equation here?  Context, too, seems important in determining the level of letting loose.  Obviously, he knows how to rein it in for radio and Comedy Central specials; and while engaging in policy discussions in a classroom, think tank, or at a dinner table might require and DESERVE a certain level of restraint, getting drunk and riffing about these things to an also possibly drunk audience in a club seems like one of the places you ought to be able to let it all hang out a bit more.

I've certainly heard my share of (and been guilty of) gratuitous and downright lazy and bothersome profanity, but I haven't felt that what I've heard from Patton Oswalt (and in fairness, I haven't explored too deeply beyond the "officially released" records themselves, and to my chagrin, I've never yet seen him live, so I could be missing something) is anything but natural animated expression.

Can you tell that I'm having a seriously boring Sunday afternoon?   :-\
Now write me a receipt so I can tip on outta here...

LostInReno

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2007, 05:57:14 PM »
Wow where is the love?
Wait... whuuuuuuuuuut?

TL

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2007, 07:21:29 PM »
Wow where is the love?

What're you talking about?  I got NOTHIN' but love!

Now write me a receipt so I can tip on outta here...

dave from knoxville

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2007, 07:34:21 PM »
Well...  I do find the "s-hit list" and "Can I say...(blank)?" stuff that Tom and Jon do hilarious, but I, personally, have a pretty terlitty terlett mouth, especially when I get wound up, and I find the sort of vernacular Patton uses to be just "amped-up conversational."  It's exactly how I would talk with my friends and (some of my) family when babbling animatedly about some subject or other.

I wonder, though, if there's not another more serious aspect of the particular tone that Patton and others (David Cross?) use in a lot of their bits - so much of the underlying premise of so much of their material is incredulity at the state of modern life, and it seems to me that it naturally leads to expressions of gob-smacked amazement laced with anger, in a "WTF??!?!?!?" kind of way.  Is the nature of the material, i.e. "the state of the world" (if you're taking the general tack that there's a lot of crappy stuff worth getting worked into a lather over), part of the equation here?  Context, too, seems important in determining the level of letting loose.  Obviously, he knows how to rein it in for radio and Comedy Central specials; and while engaging in policy discussions in a classroom, think tank, or at a dinner table might require and DESERVE a certain level of restraint, getting drunk and riffing about these things to an also possibly drunk audience in a club seems like one of the places you ought to be able to let it all hang out a bit more.

I've certainly heard my share of (and been guilty of) gratuitous and downright lazy and bothersome profanity, but I haven't felt that what I've heard from Patton Oswalt (and in fairness, I haven't explored too deeply beyond the "officially released" records themselves, and to my chagrin, I've never yet seen him live, so I could be missing something) is anything but natural animated expression.

Can you tell that I'm having a seriously boring Sunday afternoon?   :-\


That's a great take on it. Probably some of it is my Southern thing, too; I am trying to repress that (I'm really not entirely a yokel, but I am a bit of a boy scout.) Ya'll bear with me til I get my sealegs under me.

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2007, 07:48:38 PM »
That's a great take on it. Probably some of it is my Southern thing, too; I am trying to repress that (I'm really not entirely a yokel, but I am a bit of a boy scout.) Ya'll bear with me til I get my sealegs under me.

Dave!  For god's sake - no shame in that game!  You're a class act, and regardless, you have every right to your opinion - I was just conversatin' (and I had too much time on my hands to think about comedy bits and profanity today - not proud of what I DIDN'T acomplish while I was musing in front of my computer...).

Now write me a receipt so I can tip on outta here...

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2007, 12:45:53 AM »
If you can swear and it helps the point, then it's great. If you cannot swear and you can make a creative workaround (the bleeping in Arrested Development also comes to mind), then it's great. If the whole premise is swearing, then it's not gonna be great.

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Patton was amazingly hilarious on Conan last week. Right off the bat, he got into having a chapped penis in Salt Lake City then how he and Janeane Garofilo look like an ideal butch/fem lesbian couple then tried to segue into a clip from the children's movie he starred in by saying, "Go see my rat movie, kids."
"Alright, well, for the sake of this conversation, let's say the book does not exist."

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2007, 02:52:02 AM »
Wow where is the love?

What're you talking about?  I got NOTHIN' but love!



Sorry I didn't mean you TL it sounds like its the FOT vs AST crowd.
Wait... whuuuuuuuuuut?

erika

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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2007, 08:03:00 AM »
I do believe I showed my love for both AST and FOT by displaying photos of love and peace, and by using the term "Group Hug" quite a few times.

Bottom line: FOT and AST overlap, so there's really no issue.

And, again, please feel some love for Grumpus, as this is Patton's thread after all:



(LostinReno are you on AST too?)
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Re: Patton Oswalt on Tonight's Best Show 7/10/07
« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2007, 08:13:37 AM »
Grumpus is a French bulldog, yes?  Very charming indeed.