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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2010, 06:58:23 PM »
The I'm Alan Partridge Show scene where he explains how Wings were the band "the Beatles could have been" may be the single funniest moment of TV writing ever.

There are innumerable genius lines in that show; one of my favorites is in the first episode: 'Sophie? I'm old enough to be her father! Well, brother. Either way it's incest.'

I could go on for days listing these... and then there's all the amazing physical comedy bits. Coogan does it all.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2010, 07:02:41 PM »

And if its standup you're after, the top dog for a while has been Stewart Lee.

Naaa. Imma getting tired of Stu Lee, but Danny Kitson is still bringing it as hard as ever.

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And Chris Morris has a film coming out soon:
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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2010, 11:12:56 AM »

IM ALAN PARTRIDGE


It's like I get it he's playing the bumbling idiot guy, not to say you can't do that well play around with it etc.

I think the key thing that lifts Coogan's performance above the bumbling idiot category is how fully inhabited it is. The character is really fully conceived, and the texture of his life feels painfully accurate. Elsewhere on the board, harris (I think) compared Coogan to Will Ferrell, and I was surprised by that comparison, although I can see why he would make it. They're both prepared to be goofy, and really committed to their performances, but ultimately Alan Partridge is much more a living, breathing creation than any of Will Ferrell's characters.

Something that I think alienates people from I'm Alan Partridge is the use of a laugh track. In this day and age, it really conveys an unhip atmosphere to a sitcom to have an audience laughing away at it. But remember that the first series of this was done in 1997!

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2010, 07:05:52 PM »
Thank you for all the great suggestions! More media to ingest is always handy. I want to clarify that when I said "new", I should have said "new to me". If there is a great classic along these lines that you don't see mentioned here, mention it! Even if there is some overlap with ones everyone has seen it would still probably produce fruit, so don't be shy.

I think the key thing that lifts Coogan's performance above the bumbling idiot category is how fully inhabited it is. The character is really fully conceived, and the texture of his life feels painfully accurate. Elsewhere on the board, harris (I think) compared Coogan to Will Ferrell, and I was surprised by that comparison, although I can see why he would make it. They're both prepared to be goofy, and really committed to their performances, but ultimately Alan Partridge is much more a living, breathing creation than any of Will Ferrell's characters.

I agree with you Bryan and was thinking along similar lines. It seems it is even easier to miss what Coogan is doing with Alan Partridge because it is such a subtle, multi-faceted character, acted skillfully. The best laughs are found down underneath all those faces, so someone who didn't know what they were watching could conceivably just dismiss the whole thing based on that misunderstanding of its complexity. Even KMKYWAP, perhaps the more superficial of the shows, when revisited after IAP, has this depth. I totally love that kind of convoluted context, but I could understand someone not picking it up. Also, obviously, it's British, which I think cements a certain prejudice in most peoples heads to begin with. Unfair, but PBS made it true.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2010, 09:30:36 PM »
But then I watched
The Day Today

my god, why didn't anybody tell me about this before?

Who is playing the main presenter?

top 5 funniest things ever






That would be
Chris
Morris

See "Brasseye" next
.
thank you.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2010, 11:36:06 PM »
Which show is 'meh' to you? KNOWING ME KNOWING YOU or IM ALAN PARTRIDGE?

Tom.

IM ALAN PARTRIDGE


It's like I get it he's playing the bumbling idiot guy, not to say you can't do that well play around with it etc.

but that The Day Today they take that basic thing pump it up and turn it on its head
when the main presenter demands to know what big words feel like coming out of his face
thats what I like

but what do I know

I know that taste is subjective, but IM ALAN PARTRIDGE is so much better than you are aware of. THE DAY TODAY is also great, but for me, those six episodes of IM ALAN PARTRIDGE are the best three hours of television I have ever seen. My admiration of them runs deep and they hold up like nobody's business.

Maybe you need to not be lifting weights while watching them? 

Tom.


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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2010, 01:40:24 AM »
Did "This Morning with Richard not Judy" (that title makes sense and is hillarious in England) make it to the states? I haven't seen it since I was 12 but I remember it as one of the funniest things ever. It was basically the Stewart Lee and Richard Herring show. Also had Kevin Eldon and someone famous (possibly Matt Lucas) playing "The Curious Orange" which is a Fall reference.

The Armando Ianucci Shows is my favourite thing in the Ianucci/coogan/morris-verse. "My fly has no nose" 'Then how does it smell?' "It has many eyes which somehow compensate"
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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2010, 06:46:45 PM »
Which show is 'meh' to you? KNOWING ME KNOWING YOU or IM ALAN PARTRIDGE?

Tom.

IM ALAN PARTRIDGE


It's like I get it he's playing the bumbling idiot guy, not to say you can't do that well play around with it etc.

but that The Day Today they take that basic thing pump it up and turn it on its head
when the main presenter demands to know what big words feel like coming out of his face
thats what I like

but what do I know

I know that taste is subjective, but IM ALAN PARTRIDGE is so much better than you are aware of. THE DAY TODAY is also great, but for me, those six episodes of IM ALAN PARTRIDGE are the best three hours of television I have ever seen. My admiration of them runs deep and they hold up like nobody's business.

Maybe you need to not be lifting weights while watching them? 

Tom.



I bow down, how can I argue comedy with the master?


but if you ever want to take a break from that god awful rap u like (lil wayne, jayz)
I have some suggestions


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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2010, 07:20:33 PM »
Matt Berry = awesome!

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2010, 08:24:39 PM »
I like the collar.



Linda from Bowie-Gervais makes a reappearance.
I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2010, 09:52:52 PM »
This is kinda off the subject a little, but I really really loved the bumps adultswim ran with Ricky Gervais for the English office.
There is no good Art in here.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2010, 10:04:34 PM »
Which show is 'meh' to you? KNOWING ME KNOWING YOU or IM ALAN PARTRIDGE?

Tom.

IM ALAN PARTRIDGE


It's like I get it he's playing the bumbling idiot guy, not to say you can't do that well play around with it etc.

but that The Day Today they take that basic thing pump it up and turn it on its head
when the main presenter demands to know what big words feel like coming out of his face
thats what I like

but what do I know

I know that taste is subjective, but IM ALAN PARTRIDGE is so much better than you are aware of. THE DAY TODAY is also great, but for me, those six episodes of IM ALAN PARTRIDGE are the best three hours of television I have ever seen. My admiration of them runs deep and they hold up like nobody's business.

Maybe you need to not be lifting weights while watching them? 

Tom.



I bow down, how can I argue comedy with the master?


but if you ever want to take a break from that god awful rap u like (lil wayne, jayz)
I have some suggestions



Please turn me onto some good hip hop, TE. I'm always game to check stuff out, although your last recommendations were duds. But I'm always game to see what you guys listen to at Crunch.

Tom.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2010, 09:47:19 PM »
Did "This Morning with Richard not Judy" (that title makes sense and is hillarious in England) make it to the states? I haven't seen it since I was 12 but I remember it as one of the funniest things ever. It was basically the Stewart Lee and Richard Herring show. Also had Kevin Eldon and someone famous (possibly Matt Lucas) playing "The Curious Orange" which is a Fall reference.

The Armando Ianucci Shows is my favourite thing in the Ianucci/coogan/morris-verse. "My fly has no nose" 'Then how does it smell?' "It has many eyes which somehow compensate"

The entirety of This Morning With Richard not Judy (Tuhmuhnwrjuh) is here: http://www.stewartlee.co.uk/oldshows.htm
Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle from last year is well worth seeing as a great example of stand-up on TV.

And a great big second for The Armando Iannucci Shows. Sublime.

Interesting to see the Boosh love here. There is a significant strain of opinion among Morris/Iannucci fans in the U of K that intensely dislike the Boosh as the worst type of lazy, smug, self-consciously fashionable nonsense.

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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2010, 10:04:16 PM »
I was in that camp until a few months ago when I watched the Nannageddon episode. I think British nerddom tends to be horribly cynical so you can't really trust our opinions about these things. We hate anything popular (alot of British comedy nerds hate the office now)
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Re: Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, British comedy of the moment...
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2010, 10:55:04 PM »
Yep, the hype/backlash cycle is really vicious and fast-moving in the U.K... That whole process is so predictable that it's difficult to take it very seriously. And if http://chilled.cream.org/ is anything to go by, well, those people just seem to hate everything. Thankfully U.K. media is under-the-radar enough here that we aren't really subjected to the pump'n'dump media cycle.