Author Topic: Dave From Knoxville's 100 Most Important Recording Artists of the 21st Century  (Read 9598 times)

Vambo

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Edit: point clarified, I had only read the re-dux link.


Here's two guys making fantastic music in this new century:

Spencer P. Jones--he's released solid solo material after a long, storied career in Australia (The Johnnys, Hell To Pay, Beasts Of Bourbon, playing guitar for Paul Kelly).  Look for "Fugitive Songs" ('07 release), "Immolation & Ameliorations", "Rumour Of Death", and "Fait Accompli".

Ike Reilly--another guy who's been around forever, albeit in Chicago.  He's done quiet, introspective stuff where it seems he's communicating one-on-one with the listener.  He's done raucous kick-ass rock-and-roll, where at times his voice is a dead ringer for Dylan, where he deftly phrases the songs to a hip-hop beat, or where the band is just full-throttle guitars, bass, and drum.  His debut "Salesmen and Racists" from 2000, may be my favorite album of the decade.  The followup, "Sparkle in the Finish" is just as good.  "Junkie Faithful" is one of the more introspective efforts, with a lot of blues thrown into the mix--it's devastating at times, especially the opener "22 Hours Of Darkness" and "Heroin".  "We Belong To The Staggering Evening" came out this year, and would hold the top spot were I to compile a list.
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dave from knoxville

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The first link listed explains specifically why those old fogies are on the list.

Josh

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Did my eyes deceive me, or did I see The Clash, Led Zeppelin, and Talking Heads on the list?

Serious?

Quote from: DFK's Blog
Straight re-releases are not included in this calculation, but expanded re-releases are, which explains the presence of Talking Heads and The Clash, even though those artists are not likely to produce any more new music later in the 21st century. Likewise, discs made up exclusively of previously unreleased material do get treated like “new” discs, which is how Led Zeppelin snuck in.
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Vambo

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Ahh, my bad, I only read the re-dux link.  I'm kind of an obnoxious house-guest when it comes to lists...I generally eschew all pleasantries/introductions and go straight to the titles.  That said, in hindsight, "Most Important" is a bit of a misnomer..."Critically Regarded" or "Highly Rated" may be more appropriate.
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dave from knoxville

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So, what Josh said.

I have no illusions that these are the greatest artists; they are simply the most favorably reviewed artists (but that's quite a mouthful, so I settled on significant, I think.)

I always believed that the greatest artists, and for sure the greatest performances ever were probably performed in tiny basements in front of an uncaring audience too blasted to even understand what they were a part of.

Sort of like Will Hunting's math. Though I realize that's fiction. Because Robin Williams can not exist in any consistent real world, can he?

paul

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I had no idea the guy who lost a VJ contest to Jesse Camp was so championed by the critics.

wrong David Holmes.

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David Holmes? really? what did he even do this decade besides the Ocean's 11-13 soundtracks, and maybe 1 or 2 albums that nobody talks about? the only album i have by him is Let's Get Killed, which is from 10 years ago. it's really good but.... wha?

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http://wc03.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A2vjeea144xs7

http://uk.launch.yahoo.com/l_reviews_a/23928.html

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/soundtracks/soundtrack-oceanseleven.shtml

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/reviews/story/0,11712,1384474,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/yqtj4u

So yah, sounds pretty good. Of course, I don't listen to the stuff. I don't know David Holmes from John Holmes. I don't know David Holmes from Larry Holmes. I don't know David Holmes from Better Holmes and Gardens. I don't know David Holmes from Stock Holmes.

i'm not saying his music is bad or anything... i'm just surprised to see him so high on the list. i'm guessing he's up there mostly for his soundtracks then, combined with his albums/mixes. i mean, he's certainly not all that popular. i guess he's just more prolific than i thought he was, and i guess somehow his albums/soundtracks get reviewed a lot, and that most of the reviews end up being really positive. i mean, tom waits is obviously a "critic's darling" so to speak, so you'd expect him to be in this type of list, right?

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Bow Down to the Exit Sign is my fave David Holmes record. He's great, but I too was surprised to see him that high up the rankings.
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dave from knoxville

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Here's the 2008 update, with possibly even more Holmesian controversy. Following the release of this year's amazing "The Holy Pictures", he's moved into first place.

Every year around this time I update my list of the most important musical artists of the new millenium. This is based strictly on the aggregate quality of recordings released for the first time during or since 2000, according to an arcane combination of my opinion and input from over a dozen regular music writers whose tastes I respect even if I don’t necessarily agree. This means that my voice is in here, but this is by no means a list I would come up with on my own (you don’t see Kate Bush at the top, do you?)

Occasionally that means an expanded re-release, or previously unreleased recording gets included, spitting artists who have not recorded in years onto the list. I don’t care; it’s limited, and for the most part those recordings are better than most of the crap being sprayed out into the ether. Here goes the updated list, as of December 14, 2008. The number following the artist’s name represents the chart position at this time last year.

1) David Holmes - 5 (Not many people know this guy, my most significant artist of the new century, but he’s released over 60 tracks with very few duds, and this year’s album, The Holy Pictures, was of the consistent high quality he displayed in the first half of the decade. He’s basically a laptop/dance/what we used to call techno sort of guy.)

2) Tom Waits - 1

3) Spoon - 3

4) Super Furry Animals - 6

5) Bob Dylan - 21

6) The White Stripes - 4

7) Lambchop - 9

8) Drive By Truckers - 28

9) Low - 7

10) The Hold Steady - 38

11) Sigur Ros - 27

12) Sufjan Stevens - 13

13) Radiohead - 8

14) Nick Cave - 56

15) Sleater Kenney - 10

16) Bonnie Prince Billy - 39

17) LCD Soundsystem - 11

18) Outkast - 14

19) Dizzee Rascal - 17

20) Basement Jaxx - 15

21) The New Pornographers - 16

22) Of Montreal - 18

23) Iron and Wine - 2

24) TV on the Radio - 79

25) Elbow - 51

26) Four Tet - 32

27) Ghostface Killah - 12

28) Kanye West - 30

29) Wilco - 19

30) Elliott Smith - 20

31) The Clash - 61

32) Animal Collective - 45

33) PJ Harvey - 23

34) Arab Strap - 26

35) Missy Elliott - 31

36) My Morning Jacket - 29

37) Nas - 50

38) The Roots - 66

39) Bruce Springsteen - 33

40) Blur - 34

41) Bjork - 36

42) Ron Sexsmith - 25

43) The Arcade Fire - 40

44) The Decemberists - 37

45) Mogwai - 24

46) Talking Heads - 41

47) Okkervil River - 91

48) Devandra Banhart - 43

49) Oneida - 60

50) MIA - 44

51) Neko Case - 46

52) Dungen - 95

53) The Magnetic Fields - 98

54) Sam Phillips - new (although I have been enjoying her stuff from all the way back when she still called herself Leslie; the new album’s fantastic, like if Marlene Dietrich grew up in the Appalachians.)

55) Destroyer - new (back in after sitting out one year)

56) The Flaming Lips - 52

57) J Dilla - 48

58) The National - 49

59) Yo La Tengo - new

60) Stephen Malkmus - 82

61) Matmos - new

62) The Streets - 22

63) The Go Betweens - 53

64) The Pernice Brothers - 64

65) Broadcast - 55

66) Cat Power - 58

67) Xiu Xiu - 84

68) Bill Frisell - 57

69) Blood Brothers - 42

70) Jay Z - 62

71) Beck - new

72) British Sea Power - new

73) Queens of the Stone Age - 65

74) The Fall - new

75) Damien Jurado - 93

76) The Mendoza Line - 67

77) Smog - 68

78) System of a Down - 69

79) Books - 70

80) Franz Ferdinand - 71

81) Hayden - 73

82) M Ward - 74

83) Les Savy Fav - 47

84) Aimee Mann - new

85) Lucinda Williams - 85

86) David Kilgour - 75

87) Lightning Bolt - 76

88) Los Lobos - 77

89) Candi Staton - 78

90) Built to Spill - 72

91) The Clientele - 80

92) The Constantines - new

93) Ted FOT Leo - 81

94) Murs - new

95) Richard Thompson - 83

96) Belle and Sebastian - new

97) Led Zeppelin - 86

98) Loretta Lynn - 87

99) Fennesz - new

100) Junior Boys - 89

Artists who fell out of favor with the collected wisdom of hipster music critics (by falling out of the top 100) include the following.

Boards of Canada, was formerly 35th!

Wire, was 54

NERD, 59

OOIOO, 63

Vince Gill, 88

Nick Lowe, 90

Solomon Burke, 92

Steve Earle, 94

Richard Hawley, 96

Hood, 97

The Shins, 99

Broken Social Scene, 100

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http://gaughin.edublogs.org/2008/12/19/the-new-music-millenium-2008-update/

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How does your own opinion weigh in?  Your description from last year doesn't say anything about that.

I wonder if an objective-ish weighting system would be possible.  For example, by starting from Metacritic's ratings, but giving more weight to sources that, over all the ratings, tend to give a review a score that is close to the median.

A good computer program would be to allow the user to give different weights to different sources in the proportion that he tends to agree with them.  Additionally, I bet that if you were able to see the exact date different reviews are published, you'd be able to see that certain publications have a disproportionate effect on later ones, and that outlier scores tend to decrease.

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1) David Holmes - 5 (Not many people know this guy, my most significant artist of the new century, but he’s released over 60 tracks with very few duds, and this year’s album, The Holy Pictures, was of the consistent high quality he displayed in the first half of the decade. He’s basically a laptop/dance/what we used to call techno sort of guy.)

2) Tom Waits - 1

3) Spoony - 3


Jesus. FINALLY some recognition. How many pedals did I have to buy this year to get a nod on anyone's list?

Look out waits, you second-rate carnival barker! Your ass is mine!

#3!

dave from knoxville

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1) David Holmes - 5 (Not many people know this guy, my most significant artist of the new century, but he’s released over 60 tracks with very few duds, and this year’s album, The Holy Pictures, was of the consistent high quality he displayed in the first half of the decade. He’s basically a laptop/dance/what we used to call techno sort of guy.)

2) Tom Waits - 1

3) Spoony - 3


Jesus. FINALLY some recognition. How many pedals did I have to buy this year to get a nod on anyone's list?

Look out waits, you second-rate carnival barker! Your ass is mine!

#3!

I dig your stuff, Spoony.

I hear your music's great too.


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I am outraged that George Harrison isn't on the list!


dave from knoxville

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Not really related to the topic, but anybody heard about this?

Massive Peel Sessions CD Set Unveiled

V2 Online, the independent British record company primarily known for producing classic rock music compilation discs, as well distributing recent critically acclaimed albums by Paul Weller and Elbow, has agreed to a deal in principle with The John Peel Trust (inc). The agreement entitles V2 to release an ambitious CD set, described as a “maxi-boxset”, tentatively entitled “The Complete John Peel Sessions.”
"The market is saturated with single-artist collections of John Peel Sessions," according to Dominique le Roux, V2 Online's Media Manager, “but there is a wealth of unreleased material.” A group of rock historians from 5 continents was challenged to think beyond normal considerations of time and space limitations to come up with an appropriate tribute to the legacy of Mr. Peel. Their conclusion? Make it all available. The result is a comprehensive collection of historic recordings never before available in a single package to the general public.

According to le Roux, highlights include some of the earliest live recordings from the likes of Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Momentum Flux, and T Rex. One disc is entirely devoted to highlights of Peel’s comments on the performances as they were in progress.

The package, containing approximately 37000 songs by nearly 6000 artists will be available in 3 formats, as either a set of 2409 standard CDs, 247 MP3 discs, or 64 double-layer music DVDs. The projected retail price of the package is approximately 15200 Euros, or 14200 pounds, with a 5% discount for the MP3 versions.

The collection is projected to be released on what would have been John Peel’s 70th birthday, August 30, 2009.

For more information, see http://www.v2music.com/

Bryan

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Not really related to the topic, but anybody heard about this?

Massive Peel Sessions CD Set Unveiled

V2 Online, the independent British record company primarily known for producing classic rock music compilation discs, as well distributing recent critically acclaimed albums by Paul Weller and Elbow, has agreed to a deal in principle with The John Peel Trust (inc). The agreement entitles V2 to release an ambitious CD set, described as a “maxi-boxset”, tentatively entitled “The Complete John Peel Sessions.”
"The market is saturated with single-artist collections of John Peel Sessions," according to Dominique le Roux, V2 Online's Media Manager, “but there is a wealth of unreleased material.” A group of rock historians from 5 continents was challenged to think beyond normal considerations of time and space limitations to come up with an appropriate tribute to the legacy of Mr. Peel. Their conclusion? Make it all available. The result is a comprehensive collection of historic recordings never before available in a single package to the general public.

According to le Roux, highlights include some of the earliest live recordings from the likes of Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Momentum Flux, and T Rex. One disc is entirely devoted to highlights of Peel’s comments on the performances as they were in progress.

The package, containing approximately 37000 songs by nearly 6000 artists will be available in 3 formats, as either a set of 2409 standard CDs, 247 MP3 discs, or 64 double-layer music DVDs. The projected retail price of the package is approximately 15200 Euros, or 14200 pounds, with a 5% discount for the MP3 versions.

The collection is projected to be released on what would have been John Peel’s 70th birthday, August 30, 2009.

For more information, see http://www.v2music.com/


That was really exciting, until I saw the price.