Comedy recommendations for Producer Mike

[jane]

I think they're pretty great, Laurie.  I'd start with Doom Generation which has a young, sexy Rose McGowan and two pretty boys.  Her lips really do look like a red bow.

No hyperbole: Doom Generation is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.  No human should ever view it. 

It's a terrible film.  Of his early stuff, I was only able to tolerate Nowhere, but I can't recall why.  According to the poster on its wiki page, it was "Beverly Hills 90210 on acid!"  Ew buoy.

Yes, Doom Generation is awful x 100. Very much liked Mysterious Skin though. Had no idea he directed Smiley Face - saw the trailer and dismissed it offhand.

Aw, youse guys are crackin' me up.  Geez, have a beer before you sit down to watch a film, why doncha'.
Next you're gonna tell me you don't like Cronenberg's Crash (hahaha).

[Fido]

I think they're pretty great, Laurie.  I'd start with Doom Generation which has a young, sexy Rose McGowan and two pretty boys.  Her lips really do look like a red bow.

No hyperbole: Doom Generation is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.  No human should ever view it. 

It's a terrible film.  Of his early stuff, I was only able to tolerate Nowhere, but I can't recall why.  According to the poster on its wiki page, it was "Beverly Hills 90210 on acid!"  Ew buoy.

Yes, Doom Generation is awful x 100. Very much liked Mysterious Skin though. Had no idea he directed Smiley Face - saw the trailer and dismissed it offhand.

Aw, youse guys are crackin' me up.  Geez, have a beer before you sit down to watch a film, why doncha'.
Next you're gonna tell me you don't like Cronenberg's Crash (hahaha).

Welp, that Crash was pretty hard to watch.  It made me uncomfortable.  I really wanted to get inside the heads of the characters and give them a real talking to.  A beer or a stiff drink would not have helped.

[jane]

yeah, ok, fine, fido.  But at least it wasn't boring. 

I dunno, saying you don't like Doom Generation is like saying you don't like Liquid Sky, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Andy Warhol's Bad, Performance, The Magic Christian, Easy Rider, Alphaville, Pink Flamingos, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Dazed and Confused, A Clockwork Orange, Billy Jack, Beneath the Valley of the Dolls etc.  Were those movies necessarily great?  Probably not but they were fun to watch and not to be missed films.  Laurie's like 22 or something.  Let's not deny Laurie her Doom Generation.

[Martin]

I dunno, saying you don't like Doom Generation is like saying you don't like Liquid Sky, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Andy Warhol's Bad, Performance, The Magic Christian, Easy Rider, Alphaville, Pink Flamingos, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Dazed and Confused, A Clockwork Orange, Billy Jack, Beneath the Valley of the Dolls etc.

How dare you.

[jane]

How dare you.

Bwhahahaha

c'mon, crimestick.  Work with me, here.  Doom Generation is a little like cilantro. 
If you don't like it the first time, give it another try.

[Sarah]

So you consider A Clockwork Orange to be culty, campy fare?  I never thought of it that way (it used to be one of my favorite movies--I saw it when I was thirteen and fell in love with it--and may still be, for all I know; I haven't seen it in years).  Certainly, I think it's in a different class from the rest of the films on your list (many of which I've enjoyed, by the way--including, I think, Doom Generation, though I can't remember it very well). 

[jane]

So you consider A Clockwork Orange to be culty, campy fare? 

It's not me, Sarah, it's today's viewing audience.  Someone on another thread mentioned that people were laughing through Eraserhead.  What a bunch of chimps, I thought.  How dare people laugh through a movie that so genuinely affected me on a visceral level the first time I saw it.  That movie gave me nightmares. 

I went to see The Darjeeling thing the other night and noooo-one laughed through the Natalie Portman sequence.  But they all nodded and heh-heh-hehed knowingly when they saw that it was a movie within a movie / prologue, or whatever it was.  And, can we turn down the sarcastic, knowing laughter at movie theatres a notch.  Tom mentioned the forced laughter throughout No Country For Old Men.  Those moments were not that funny.   

I recently saw a showing of Carnival of Souls and people were howling sarcastically throughout.  It was really fucking annoying.  Yes, the dialogue is corny and yes, the acting is bad and yes, the whole thing is over the top but just acknowledge that quietly and keep it to yourself.
/end rant

[Martin]

Tom mentioned the forced laughter throughout No Country For Old Men.  Those moments were not that funny.

Rant on! There was a lot of that nonsense when I saw No Country. I wanted to Chigurh (it's a verb now) those jokers.

[Sarah]

I recently saw a showing of Carnival of Souls

The original?  Despite all its many, many flaws, it still has some of the creepiest moments going, don't you think?

[Denim Gremlin]

yeah, ok, fine, fido.  But at least it wasn't boring. 

I dunno, saying you don't like Doom Generation is like saying you don't like Liquid Sky, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Andy Warhol's Bad, Performance, The Magic Christian, Easy Rider, Alphaville, Pink Flamingos, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Dazed and Confused, A Clockwork Orange, Billy Jack, Beneath the Valley of the Dolls etc.  Were those movies necessarily great?  Probably not but they were fun to watch and not to be missed films.  Laurie's like 22 or something.  Let's not deny Laurie her Doom Generation.

you either mean Beyond the Valley of the Dolls or Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Vixens. FUN FACT: both written by Roger Ebert.

also Alphaville is terrible. I love Godard but it's easily his worst film from that period. probably ever.

and yes most of the movies are really great. I think easy rider, performance, the man who fell to earth, a clockwork orange all go way beyond campy entertainment.

[Denim Gremlin]

So you consider A Clockwork Orange to be culty, campy fare? 

It's not me, Sarah, it's today's viewing audience.  Someone on another thread mentioned that people were laughing through Eraserhead.  What a bunch of chimps, I thought.  How dare people laugh through a movie that so genuinely affected me on a visceral level the first time I saw it.  That movie gave me nightmares. 

I went to see The Darjeeling thing the other night and noooo-one laughed through the Natalie Portman sequence.  But they all nodded and heh-heh-hehed knowingly when they saw that it was a movie within a movie / prologue, or whatever it was.  And, can we turn down the sarcastic, knowing laughter at movie theatres a notch.  Tom mentioned the forced laughter throughout No Country For Old Men.  Those moments were not that funny.   

I recently saw a showing of Carnival of Souls and people were howling sarcastically throughout.  It was really fucking annoying.  Yes, the dialogue is corny and yes, the acting is bad and yes, the whole thing is over the top but just acknowledge that quietly and keep it to yourself.
/end rant

This kind of thing really depends on the setting you're in and the movie you're seeing

I live in LA, there's a few theaters here, most notably the New Beverly Cinema, who often have whole nights that thrive on this kind of thing. the fun is not going to study some old horror movie with bad acting in silence but to go see it with the experience of being in a theater full of people having fun.

on the other hand, I agree. A year ago maybe IFC in new york was showing the Holy Mountain. now there's a lot of intentionally hilarious stuff in that movie but its not meant to be a laugh riot throughout. I had to sit next to a bunch of drunk goons guffawing in my ear at every scene. It hardly ruined the experience for me but its was certainly annoying and i didn't understand what was so funny.

[Sarah]

But A Clockwork Orange is really seen as being on the same level as the others on jane's list?  I mean, Billy Jack?  Pink Flamingoes?  If so, I simply had no idea.

[Martin]

But A Clockwork Orange is really seen as being on the same level as the others on jane's list?  I mean, Billy Jack?  Pink Flamingoes?  If so, I simply had no idea.

Of course it's not, from a canonical/critical perspective.

[Sarah]

Phew.  Thank you, crimestick.  I thought the world had gone even madder than I'd supposed.

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

My parents took me to see The Man Who Fell To Earth when I was five.  I'm not kidding.