Really Iowa?

[folksnake]

I bet it was the redheaded one. It always is.

[Chris L]

I'm going to guess a few of the presidential race permutations would play out:

Huckabee d. Obama
Clinton, Edwards d. Huckabee
Obama, Clinton, Edwards d. Romney (Supreme Court voids Dem victory, installs Romney)
Giuliani, McCain d. all Dems
Waterston d. Thompson
portrait of Reagan in cowboy hat d. Kucinich
Chuck Norris d. Huckabee in shocking betrayal
Terrorists d. America

[TL]

I'm going to guess a few of the presidential race permutations would play out:

Chuck Norris d. Huckabee in shocking betrayal
Terrorists d. America

I dunno...  I think that if Huckabee was to defeat Chuck Norris, THEN the terrorists would truly have won.

[Chris L]

Chuck Norris d. Huckabee YouTube d. Ron Paul in shocking betrayal

Fixed.

[Jason]

Giuliani positive despite weak campaign.

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/03/2008-01-03_giuliani_positive_despite_weak_campaign.html

[TL]

Giuliani positive despite weak campaign.

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/03/2008-01-03_giuliani_positive_despite_weak_campaign.html

Surely even the guy I just saw with the giant "Rudy" sticker on his Escalade is starting to wonder...
No?

[buffcoat]

Chuck Norris' teeth outshine the sun.

That's not one of those played "Chuck Norris..." memes - it's a factual statement.  And it's extraordinarily disturbing.

[Martin]

Giuliani positive despite weak campaign.

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/03/2008-01-03_giuliani_positive_despite_weak_campaign.html

Wow. I guess The Onion's story, Giuliani To Run For President Of 9/11, is not that far off. Try harder, Onion guys.

[Fido]

Rudy OWNS 9/11.  He's already won the presidency of 9/11.  (Even though it's only because he was the lame duck mayor when the evil went down.)  He's President-for-Life of 9/11.  The Onion made the right call in this case, even if it was an exceedingly obvious concept. 

[TRL]

I am late to this thread but I am one of the other non-Chicago midwestern folks on here and I think Huckabee winning makes things worse for the GOP because it shows how fractured their party is.  He won't finish very high in NH and there is no way he would even compete for pres.  The GOP doesn't have a candidate that they can really get behind.  McCain is Bob Dole 2, Rudy will never get the christian right, Romney has an even harder time as a mormon, Ron Paul is still in the race and making the rest of them look stupid even though he is a nutjob himself, and I am sure I am forgetting someone but they are not very memorable. I think the Dems are voting for Obama partially because the GOP has only one weapon and that is Hillary. If she gets the nomination, there will be a ton of people who will go out to vote against her.

[Laurie]

I don't think I would cry if McCain magically won the presidency. I can't say the same for the other Republican candidates.

I met a Ron Paul supporter yesterday. He's really into drag racing, small Japanese cars with big rear spoilers, and guns. Yeah, I think I'll do my best to avoid that fellow.

[senorcorazon]

I met a Ron Paul supporter yesterday. He's really into drag racing, small Japanese cars with big rear spoilers, and guns fiscal responsibility.

FIXED!

It was a joy to see him on the Republican debate. Watching everyone else have to deal with a person with an actual policy standpoint (albeit a nutty one) rather than "I hate gays and Mexicans and abortion rights" was refreshing.

[Gilly]

I met a Ron Paul supporter yesterday. He's really into drag racing, small Japanese cars with big rear spoilers, and guns. Yeah, I think I'll do my best to avoid that fellow.

I think you're kind of joking, but this Ron Paul supporter isn't into anything remotely close to those things. But, I think people have constitutional rights as well and our country is in a big mess right now because of rights being taken away.

[Laurie]

I'm actually not joking. This guy is a bank teller at the branch adjacent to my* building. He loves guns, and he hates Jews. I said, "Dude, why wouldn't you vote for a Jew? What's your problem with them?" He asked me if I had forty minutes. I said, "No thanks!" I did mention that I'm half Jewish, and he said, "So am I?" I asked him if he's Jewban, because that is a fun word to say. Apparently, his paternal grandfather is Jewish, so he can hate on Jews freely. This person exists!

"President Paul" does not strike as much fear into my heart as "President Romney" or "President Huckabee," but his anti-choice beliefs unnerve me. I'll give him this much, though: He was one of the eleven (out of 216] Republicans who voted against the [url=http://www.aclu.org/reproductiverights/youth/12588prs20050413.html]Child Interstate Notification Act. Good for him.

I also don't like that Ron Paul voted for amendments prohibiting funding for same-sex and common law marriage adoption. I volunteered as a Guardian ad Litem for abused an neglected children and worked with teens who were on the verge of "aging out" of foster care, so I've seen how incredibly fucked up the foster care system on kids.

And another thing he supported the Marriage Protection Act. Fuck you, Ron Paul.

I changed my mind. I think I would be just as upset if -- and this is a huge fucking if in blinking red lights, so IF -- we were stuck with four years of Prez Paul. Barf.






*I don't own it, I just work on one of its 55 floors, okay?

[TL]

I'm with Laurie on this one.
Many great Libertarian ideas, but did anybody see this: http://www.tnr.com/talkback.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129 today?  Some selections below...

Since at least 1978, Ron Paul has attached his name to a series of newsletters--Ron Paul's Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron Paul Investment Letter--that frequently made outrageous statements:

An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," and "Lazyopolis" would be better alternatives--and says, "Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house."

The June 1990 issue of the Political Report says: "I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."

In an undated solicitation letter for The Ron Paul Investment Letter and the Ron Paul Political Report, Paul writes: "I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bohemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica."

Or this last week: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14021.html
Another selection...

The Politico’s Jim VandeHei opened it up to the stage: “I’m curious, is there anybody on the stage that does not agree, believe in evolution?” The camera didn’t show the 10 candidates for very long, but three would-be presidents raised their hand: Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, and Tom Tancredo.

At the time, I was torn. Was it good news that seven in 10 Republican presidential candidates accept scientific reality, or was it bad news that three in 10 presidential hopefuls reject the foundation of modern biology?

As it turns out, though, there was one more evolution-denier on the stage who, for whatever reason, didn’t raise his hand at the time. Ron Chusid directed me to this Ron Paul video, posted to YouTube last week. Here’s the key exchange:

Audience member: I saw you in one of the earlier debates, all of the candidates were asked if they believe the theory of evolution to be true and they had a show of hands, but I didn’t see which way you voted, and I was wondering if you believe it to be true, and should it be taught in our schools.

Paul: First, I thought it was a very inappropriate question, you know, for the presidency to be decided on a scientific matter. And I, um, I think it’s a theory, theory of evolution, and I don’t accept it, you know, as a theory…. I just don’t think we’re at a point where anybody has absolute proof, on either side.

Yes, in 2007, 10 Republicans were running for president, and four of them reject modern biology.

Thanks, but no thanks.
You scare me, Ron Paul.