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Forrest

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2008, 11:31:35 AM »


And Forrest, I wouldn't be so hard on the people putting the economy first - a lot of people have been living off of their home equity because it's so hard to get a living wage anymore and now they're losing their homes.  It's not just the assjerks with Hummers.

 

You're right, Jasongrote, and I realize there are countless people who are barely getting by or not at all. My point was that the economy could probably be a bit more robust if we would eschew insane and deadly foreign excursions like the one we're involved in now. Also, the Mitt Romneys of the world (and I do know he's only one for three so far) have a base because of the appeal to the lavishly wealthy, many of whom I have known to be more concerned with tax margins than massive military blunders. I get very fired up about this, I realize, and I see that I lean too heavily on an anecdotal argument. And I DO NOT mean to offend any right-leaning folks on here; I do know how to separate a true ideological conservative from someone like our current president.

Shaggy 2 Grote

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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2008, 11:40:42 AM »
Well, yeah, you're right that it's all connected.  It's more like these polls tend to lump people together in a really sloppy way, like the "values voters" of 2004. 
Oh, good heavens. I didn’t realize. I send my condolences out to the rest of the O’Connor family.

Laurie

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2008, 11:56:20 AM »
Jason, I conceded in chat that I was wrong about Argo City.  :-* I am much more knowledgeable about Gotham City.

Just for clarification, this Sunny D fellow I mentioned is Cuban. He hates Jews and "the Chinese." Racism: It's not just for white folks.

Shaggy 2 Grote

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2008, 12:23:36 PM »
I know, Laurie, I was just razzin' ya.  I put in a wink emoticon but I just couldn't bear it so I took it back out again.  Someday we'll have to have a nerd-off.

As a Jewish guy who has lived much of his life in Hispanic neighborhoods, there seems to be a weird Latin American tradition of casual antisemitism that nobody takes very seriously.  The few times it's popped up it's usually disavowed and apologized for right away.  I chalk it up to a culture where a lot of people grow up learning that Jews are Christ-killers but rarely encounter any.  There is a fairly significant history of Cuban Chinese, though - they even have a cuisine.
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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2008, 03:02:53 PM »
I am an idiot if the only thing in the whole thread that I understood or cared about was the comic book references?
I was the first guy in hardcore to whip people with his belt.

Shaggy 2 Grote

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2008, 05:23:34 PM »
Argo City, Colin!  Am I right?  Now where's Wes, I want to talk about which way the Immortal City of K'un L'un is going in the primaries, which are decided by superhero martial arts tournaments.  My money's on Fred Thompson.
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« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2008, 05:38:24 PM »
Argo City, Colin!  Am I right?  Now where's Wes, I want to talk about which way the Immortal City of K'un L'un is going in the primaries, which are decided by superhero martial arts tournaments.  My money's on Fred Thompson.


I just hope they get a cameo in the new Iron Fist movie starring Andy Milonakis
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Shaggy 2 Grote

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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2008, 05:50:26 PM »
I heard about that.  Isn't the guy from Good Burger playing Luke Cage?
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Laurie

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2008, 06:03:14 PM »
Argo City, Colin!  Am I right?  Now where's Wes, I want to talk about which way the Immortal City of K'un L'un is going in the primaries, which are decided by superhero martial arts tournaments.  My money's on Fred Thompson.

I'm more concerned about Nanda Parbat. You know what they say about Nanda Parbat. "As Nanda Parbat goes, so goes the multiverse."

Gilly

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2008, 07:43:56 PM »


And Forrest, I wouldn't be so hard on the people putting the economy first - a lot of people have been living off of their home equity because it's so hard to get a living wage anymore and now they're losing their homes.  It's not just the assjerks with Hummers.

 

You're right, Jasongrote, and I realize there are countless people who are barely getting by or not at all. My point was that the economy could probably be a bit more robust if we would eschew insane and deadly foreign excursions like the one we're involved in now. Also, the Mitt Romneys of the world (and I do know he's only one for three so far) have a base because of the appeal to the lavishly wealthy, many of whom I have known to be more concerned with tax margins than massive military blunders. I get very fired up about this, I realize, and I see that I lean too heavily on an anecdotal argument. And I DO NOT mean to offend any right-leaning folks on here; I do know how to separate a true ideological conservative from someone like our current president.

Most people who are concerned with the economy aren't wealthy. The issue should really be divided into two categories rather than one all-encompassing category. It should be "People who are concerned about protecting their riches" and "People who are concerned about paying their bills". They are two separate issues but they both get lumped into the same debate.

Is anyone else surprised (with how polarized our nation has become) that we haven't seen a legitimate candidate with a fiscally liberal, socially conservative platform? Impossible?

Laurie

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2008, 10:18:42 PM »
I just wanted to say that I'm very proud of my brother. He's going to work on the Obama campaign now. YAY! Here's hoping he has a job until November! At the very least!

Andy

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2008, 10:31:59 PM »
I find it comical that anyone thinks that any politician is any more or less a bag of shit than any other politician in Washington, regardless of which side of the aisle they sit.
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Chris L

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2008, 10:48:02 PM »
I find it comical that anyone thinks that any politician is any more or less a bag of shit than any other politician in Washington, regardless of which side of the aisle they sit.

As perfectly illustrated in the 2000 election! 

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2008, 10:51:05 PM »
Is anyone else surprised (with how polarized our nation has become) that we haven't seen a legitimate candidate with a fiscally liberal, socially conservative platform? Impossible?

It depends - do you consider Huckabee, Romney, McCain, and Giuliani "legitimate candidates?"

Now write me a receipt so I can tip on outta here...

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2008, 11:34:52 PM »
Alright, fiscally progressive. A candidate who will appeal to evangelical voters without screwing them over financially.