New Jersey Wins

[JonFromMaplewood]

Tom was mentioning the ways in which New Jersey has won out over New York recently. For example, NY's Spitzer was brought low by NJ's Dupree, and Manhattan was stomped in Cloverfield while New Jersey watched. 

There was one other example on the tip of Tom's tongue. I think he may have been thinking of American Gangster, which he has mentioned before. Jersey's ragtag cops bring down the drug kingpin before the crooked New York cops can.

I'm sure there are other ways, but that is one that comes to mind from previous shows.

-Jon

[JonFromMaplewood]

[tumbleweed blows by. crickets chirp. mic feedback. someone coughs.]

[Dan B]

New Jersey won the Sopranos.

[Sarah]

You get impatient for a response after only 41 minutes and 39 seconds?  You must find much of life hell.

As for NJ vs. NY, The Sopranos comes to mind.  Tom was certainly rooting for Tony & Co.

P.S.  Dan B. beat me, but only by a second or two so I'm posting this anyway.

[gravy boat]

It didn't get any media attention, but someone who knows told me the Jersey band Bouncing Souls kicked the crap out of the boys of Campfire Weekend after a recent show.  I don't think it was a fist fight. I think it was Outburst.

[Omar]

Tom was mentioning the ways in which New Jersey has won out over New York recently. For example, NY's Spitzer was brought low by NJ's Dupree, and Manhattan was stomped in Cloverfield while New Jersey watched. 

There was one other example on the tip of Tom's tongue. I think he may have been thinking of American Gangster, which he has mentioned before. Jersey's ragtag cops bring down the drug kingpin before the crooked New York cops can.

I'm sure there are other ways, but that is one that comes to mind from previous shows.

-Jon

You are correct!  From the 1/29/08 recap:

Charlie reminds Tom about Guiliani's comments during the 1998 dispute over Ellis Island ownership. Guiliani stated that his Italian immigrant father had no intention of coming to New Jersey, a quip that elicited guffaws from the New York press corps. Tom informs Guiliani that his relatives were coming to America. He revels in New Jersey's undefeated record in its battles with New York. The state earned an outright W on The Sopranos by squishing Phil Leotardo's head and more recently authorized aerial defense to thwart the Cloverfield monster's destruction of NYC. Newark, Jersey City, and Hoboken were unscathed. Tom also wonders how many Super Bowls the New York Giants, who have played their home games in the Meadowlands since 1976, appeared in while playing in New York with Y.A. Tittle at the helm. Zilch. (They did win four titles in the pre-Super Bowl era.) Back in December Tom noted New Jersey's triumph in American Gangster when Newark detective Richie Roberts brought down Harlem heroin dealer Frank Lucas. Charlie starts to talk about looking at a map, but Tom tells him to shut up for a second. He wants to make it clear that he does not have to justify his support of New Jersey. Tom admits that New York is an awesome place loaded with great stuff, but he will not tolerate its inhabitants throwing New Jersey under the bus and making lame what-exit-are-you-from queries. He recalls arguing with a guy who was mocking New Jersey only to discover that he was dealing with someone originally from Delaware. Charlie gets excited and says that Manhattan is full of transplants. Tom asked Charlie if he's also on a topic delay because he just made that point.

[JonFromMaplewood]

You get impatient for a response after only 41 minutes and 39 seconds?  You must find much of life hell.

You're right, Sarah. But not impatient....I would never be impatient with swell folks like yourselves. I was quickly discouraged.  It's just that my recent posts were apparently covered with hantavirus. No one got near them. So I was getting a little down.  I was feeling like perhaps there was no place for a Honky Lips like me.

But then you all came through. Thank you, FOT!

As a reward, no more fon fiction from me! Or at least, much, much shorter fon fiction.

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

New Jersey might win me.  I'm going in next week to interview for a job as a building caretaker in Palisades Park (I think), just over the GWB.  The upsides: free rent and utilities, bigger apartment, just as close to NY as I am now, I wouldn't take the NY/NJ reverse-commuter tax hit, probably quieter.  The downsides: we'd violate our lease, most of my friends live in Brooklyn, I'd miss all of the stuff I have right outside my door, not having the subway and cabs 24/7 actually does make a huge difference, I never thought I'd move back to NJ and so left all kinds of bureaucratic things in a huge mess.  And I'd probably eventually have to get a car, which would mean going back to the DMV (already the worst place on earth this side of Gitmo) with my tail between my legs and start to straighten everything out.

I dunno.  Part of me is like yeah, I can get out of debt and in a few years just move to Portland or LA or upstate or back to NYC.  But the other part of me is like, I don't wanna move.

We might not even get hired anyway, which would take a lot of the pressure off.

[Josh]

the DMV (already the worst place on earth this side of Gitmo)

well at least you're keeping things in perspective

[Tom Scharpling]

Jason -

Now that the NJ DMV has gone computerized, things go pretty fast there. Don't fear the Jersey DMV!

I cannot speak for the New York DMV, but I can only imagine that it is a nightmare.

Suck it one more time, NY!

Tom.

[TL]

Jason -

Now that the NJ DMV has gone computerized, things go pretty fast there. Don't fear the Jersey DMV!

I cannot speak for the New York DMV, but I can only imagine that it is a nightmare.

Suck it one more time, NY!

Tom.

I've had moments at the DMV in East Orange recently that were so smooth and easy and fast that I was like, "Oh!  Really??  That's it??  I'm done???  Thank you - I LOVE you!!" 
Now, the Rhode Island DMV in Pawtucket?  That's like the Vestibule of Hell.

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

Josh, have you ever been to Jersey DMV?  Or Guantanamo?  I have, except Guantanamo, and I don't think I'm exaggerating.

It's good to hear that they've smoothed everything over, though.  The NY DMV was bad but not as bad as the last time I went to the Jersey one, which admittedly was over ten years ago.  I did leave everything a mess, though, which is on me.

I also have the Best Show podcast this time around, which might actually make me wish the DMV wait was even longer.

No plans to move to Rhode Island any time soon, luckily.  A friend told me about a tenure-track position at Brown but the application process looked incredibly tedious and paralyzing (and honestly I probably wouldn't get the job anyway), so I blew it off.

[gravy boat]

In high school a friend of mine went to take the driving test at a Jersey DMV.  The instructor got in and told him to start driving, but he didn't put his seat belt on. My friend asked the instructor to put his seat belt on but the instructor told him not to worry about it. My friend thought it was like a test trick and said something along the lines of "I am not going to start driving until you put your seat belt on."  The instructor said "Well, then you fail" and got out.  Jersey attitude at its best.

[samir]

Try not being a U.S. citizen in a weird immigration limbo, and renewing a license. I have to go with my dad on his day off, because he's more patient than I am.

[jed]

PA DMV is the worst of the NY/NJ/PA DMV sytems in my experience. I was unable to register an old car I'd bought in PA despite numerous documents proving ownership because I had no title (not required in GA for cars over ten years old). So I 'sold' the car to my then-girlfriend in NJ and we got everything we needed there even though it was against NJ State policy. Any institution that is willing to work around policy in exceptional circumstances is awesome in my opinion.