you have to listen for a while to get it. I would suggest the recent archives at ronfez.net to get up to speed. they do some stuff that seems like it would be hacky at times, but they always pull it off. When they first came on I was a huge O&A fan and didn't think much of Ron and Fez. Now, I will listen to O&A casually, but I absolutely have to listen to all 3 hours of Ron and Fez (usually via mp3 using bittorrent downloads)