Author Topic: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980  (Read 13531 times)

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John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« on: May 29, 2008, 01:58:07 PM »
I'd always heard about this interview but never thought to look it up on YouTube til today:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_BZ2UoBZzEI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQGCYlhlu7Y[/youtube]

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 02:32:38 PM »
I am a big fan of PIL (don't judge!), but maybe because I am older, I am completely on Tom Snyder's side while watching this.
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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 03:37:35 PM »
I am a big fan of PIL (don't judge!), but maybe because I am older, I am completely on Tom Snyder's side while watching this.

I judge you AWESOME for being a big fan of PIL.  Everything up to, but not including, the "Happy?" LP (but including the "Disappointed" single from the "Happy" LP), is top shelf!

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 03:53:50 PM »
The DVD set of punks on Tom Snyder from the 70s and 80s is priceless. He completely takes the piss out of everybody in the most unassuming way, by just taking everything at face value.
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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 04:18:52 PM »
I liked a lot of PIL, but some was just unlistenable. Maybe I need to go back to that since it;s been a while.

But I'm with you Jon... Mr Lydon is not making it easy for Mr Snyder.

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 08:48:48 PM »
I like when he says "We're not going to condescend". 

You sure about that?

I don't really know much PiL or anything about them really.  I think their concept is pretty interesting and I actually think they're kind of right about the playing-live paradigm, but man that was pretty funny watching Keith go "I only know what I don't like".  He had the biggest deer-in-the-headlights look. 

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 11:02:24 PM »
I love how every time John Lydon is in the news Idolator posts this picture:

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 01:54:39 AM »
John Lydon on Judge Judy.  Oh, how the mighty fall.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2CnwYPhcQk

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 02:14:06 AM »
John Lydon on Judge Judy.  Oh, how the mighty fall.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2CnwYPhcQk

Holy moley - I watched that whole thing.

My favorite quote: "I understand 'no.' Judge Judy understands 'no.' Mr. Williams doesn't."
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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 02:14:30 AM »
I've tried very hard to get into PIL but just can't. One of my good friends loves them and I just can't do it.

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 02:18:36 AM »
I've tried very hard to get into PIL but just can't. One of my good friends loves them and I just can't do it.

Watch this and then tell me you don't like PIL!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FnBq98uUJE4

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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 02:38:20 AM »
I'm weirdly finding Lydon on Judge Judy more endearing than Lydon sniding out Tom Snyder. 

This is pretty awesome.  I actually watched this in a class called "Eighties Video Art".
[youtube]151IfhZD2rA&hl=en[/youtube]


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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 06:20:00 AM »
First 2 PiL albums = teh awesome

Don't really know anything after that. The debut actually kinda reminds me of Led Zeppelin.
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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2008, 09:09:19 AM »
John Lydon on Judge Judy.  Oh, how the mighty fall.


I love this clip.  Call me naive, but perhaps this is just another example of what a mensch Lydon is - maybe, as he suggests in the Tom Snyder clip, he never really DID consider himself one of "the mighty."  Maybe doing the Megabugs show, agreeing to handle a claim on Judge Judy, doing upmteen embarrassing Sex Pistols reunions just shows that he IS a "fallen" soul like the rest of us - needs some money, has a sense of humor, isn't afraid to be a goof ball or embarrass himself, etc., AND possibly still scoffs at the idea of rock stardom.  I mean, you hear him speak in The Filth and the Fury and you have a hard time reconciling that guy - the same guy who wrote the scribbled "F.U." to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - and the guy in the baggy plaid suits playing Sex Pistols songs in Las Vegas casino theaters, but maybe the joke's still on us and everyone who wants to make of him something more than he feels he is or needs to be.

O.k. - I wish this was, erm... Chinatown... so I wouldn't have to embarrass myself, but there you go - that's my embarrassingly positive thought for the day, and it's over now - go about your business.


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Re: John Lydon brings the pain to Tom Snyder, 1980
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2008, 09:20:42 AM »
First 2 PiL albums = teh awesome

Don't really know anything after that. The debut actually kinda reminds me of Led Zeppelin.

First 5 "real" LPs are great:
1.  First Issue
2.  Metal Box/Second Edition
3.  Flowers of Romance - this is almost all just drums and vocals - it's insane - if someone did this at a show at Death by Audio in Brooklyn today, they'd be hailed as a genius (and rightly so).
4.  This is What You Want... This is What You Get
5.  Album - as, strangely, both my father and a large skinhead friend of mine from South London would say, "Tough tunes!!"

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