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John Junk

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2007, 03:25:19 PM »
Jay Z is the only rapper who uses big words.

That's not true. 

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2007, 10:00:56 AM »
Jay Z is the only rapper who uses big words.
Big for your audience. And for you.
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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 03:35:39 AM »
Jay Z is the only rapper who uses big words.
Big for your audience. And for you.

I know everyone he isnt the only rapper to do so. I was just kidding
Wait... whuuuuuuuuuut?

johnfgillson

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2007, 03:03:44 AM »
I am way way late to this, but I have to confess that I don't get much of hip hop, although maybe that's because my exposure comes mainly from what I hear on commercial radio. I spent a lot of time a couple of summers ago with Mos Def's Black on Both Sides, which I thought was pretty great, and I like a lot of the Aesop Rock I have heard; I even have a couple of Public Enemy records, but beyond that, it's a musical style I never developed any real fondness for, mainly because I get tired of repetition too quickly, I think. At 49, all that anger just seems kind of sad and tired to me.

So what's WRONG with me?



Hmm... I think you can sense the repetition more if you don't listen to it much. Rock music is just as repetitive as hip-hop, but if you've listened to it all your life you become accustomed to hearing the same thing. More of a habit I think. I agree with the anger issue though... today all anger seems tired in music. It's hard to make a statement in music without being cliche or at least without sounding whiny.

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2007, 01:17:06 AM »
Jay-Z and Phish!
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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2007, 01:23:44 AM »
First Linkin Park now Phish. Jay-z sure knows how to pick rock guys to collaborate with.
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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2007, 10:30:27 AM »
Dave from Knoxville, this is why you have supercaller status. At 49, I assume that I will be a fullblown crank, uninterested in listening to anything but old-timey music. I heard a scientist recently talking about how our brains are hard-wired to prefer music we heard in our late teens, which might explain a lot.

Hip-hop is a huge, messy class of music that's hard to untangle; it's a bit like using the phrase "rock" to describe everything from Poison to Bruce Springsteen to Pearl Jam to Led Zeppelin and everywhere above and beyond. Jay-Z can go from being a deft lyricist in one song to then rhyming the phrase "trick ho" with...the phrase "gold-diggin' skanky ho" in the next song.

I'd suggest De La Soul's earlier stuff to cut your teeth on, definitely the Black Star album (back when Mos Def was good), and more Stones Throw stuff to throw a curveball.  More and more, though, I find hip hop getting me more interested in finding out about the songs they're sampling. 

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2007, 11:02:33 AM »
Try an Eric B & Rakim greatest hits cd (even my mom likes the "Paid in Full" remix), Digable Planets' Blowout Comb and Pete Rock & CL Smooth's Mecca and the Soul Brother.  Also, you may want to hunt for a cassingle of Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd's classic joint from the Dragnet soundtrack. 
 

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2007, 07:00:37 PM »
Three words:

Boogie
Down
Productions
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johnfgillson

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2007, 04:25:00 PM »
I agree with Black Star and throw in Talib Kweli's new album Eardrum and 2002? album Quality. Also, Wu-Tang Clan. I think they are the easiest to listen to because they all have very unique styles so it rarely gets monotonous. Plus RZA is the king of finding the coolest samples and soundclips. 36 Chambers is top 10 of all time in my book and Forever isn't far behind. If only they made Forever a single disc.

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2007, 05:03:54 PM »
Three words:

Boogie
Down
Productions


Two words:

Word
Up
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Sarah

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2007, 09:40:32 AM »
Seconded.

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2007, 02:01:44 PM »
I second and third and fourth pretty much all of these (esp. Mos Def), and raise you (sorry for any repeats):

The Coup
Madvillain/MF Doom/Danger Doom
Outkast
Cee-Lo/Gnarls Barkley
Blackalicious
A Tribe Called Quest/Q-Tip
De La Soul
Aesop Rock
Jay Dee aka Jay Dilla (I discovered this through TBSOWFMU, so someone must have mentioned it already)

I'm also fond of FMU's underground rap show, Coffee Break for Heroes and Villains, which spotlights a lot of NJ acts...

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Laurie

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2007, 04:24:56 PM »
YESSSSSSSS to MF Doom. I recommend Mm...Food? and Vaudeville Villain. I remember watching the Carson Daly show because MF doom was on, and there were the saddest, whitest people waving their hands like they just don't care in the audience. It was like a Dave Matthews Band audience. Oooooh-weeeee! I still want an animated gif of the audience :(

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Re: Jay-Z
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2007, 11:09:17 PM »
the only current hip-hop (if any of this stuff even counts as hip-hop) i listen to isn't from america

cadence weapon (from edmonton, alberta)
any baile funk/funk carioca from brazil
lots of british stuff (m.i.a., lady sov, anything grime/garage/dubstep related)

altho if baltimore club or diplo/hollertronix or other mashuppy stuff like that figure into hip-hop, then that's american

but lots of other stuff just doesn't interest me at all anymore.
i still like missy elliott a lot tho.


edit: as for older stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet,