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« Reply #1665 on: January 03, 2012, 12:04:40 PM »
I think they would acknowledge his position on it and tell you the good outweighs the bad.  Imagine seeing Paul and Obama debate foreign policy?
That's a debate I wouldn't want to have happen (no worries, it won't)

There very well could be a Romney-Obama-Paul debate if Paul runs as an independent. Hilariously, a Romney-Obama-Trump debate isn't out of the question either.

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« Reply #1666 on: January 03, 2012, 12:37:54 PM »

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« Reply #1667 on: January 03, 2012, 01:34:58 PM »


What the...?

I can see why many people are creeped out by the Paulbots/Paulistas/Paulistinians. I don't ever recall a political candidate inspiring this kind of fervent cult following. This is the end result.
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« Reply #1668 on: January 03, 2012, 02:10:30 PM »
Generally, I am glad that this thread isn't overrun with links to blog posts--people who want those have plenty of other places to go--but this, by Ta-Nehesi Coates, really deserves to be the last word on Ron Paul and race, and for that matter on Ron Paul, period: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/01/the-messenger/250685/
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« Reply #1669 on: January 03, 2012, 02:44:36 PM »

What the...?

I can see why many people are creeped out by the Paulbots/Paulistas/Paulistinians. I don't ever recall a political candidate inspiring this kind of fervent cult following. This is the end. result.

Fixed.
I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

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« Reply #1670 on: January 03, 2012, 02:50:57 PM »
Generally, I am glad that this thread isn't overrun with links to blog posts--people who want those have plenty of other places to go--but this, by Ta-Nehesi Coates, really deserves to be the last word on Ron Paul and race, and for that matter on Ron Paul, period: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/01/the-messenger/250685/

This is a great find.  The most salient point is the last one, in my opinion: Ron Paul wants to end all these things, presumably immediately, and certainly within 4 years.  Do his backers really think this is realistic?  What would happen if the Fed, or the TSA, or the War on Drugs disappeared tomorrow?

To one extent or another, I wouldn't miss any of those things.  But the ratchet effect is real, damn it, and pretending it's not is stupid.  Regardless of whether you supported (or support) the welfare reform of the 90s, that's the damn way you back government off things, and that's something the Paulistas have no interest in.  That and, um, reality.
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Re: Humorless Politics Thread
« Reply #1671 on: January 03, 2012, 03:46:50 PM »
Come on, evangelicals, fundamentals, fox news-ites, tea partiers, the blonde weirdo from
Snl voting for an anti-war candidate? It's too rich to pass up!

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« Reply #1672 on: January 04, 2012, 04:11:16 PM »
The Perry Train is pulling into South Carolina!

Question:

Why?


I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

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« Reply #1673 on: January 04, 2012, 04:35:24 PM »
The Perry Train is pulling into South Carolina!

Question:

Why?

One of two reasons (or both), I think:

1) Perry realizes that Santorum almost winning Iowa means that, in this race, shit just doesn't make sense and that there's still a possibility he could win a state or two (which would help people forget the embarrassing debate performances and commercials, thus restoring some dignity to the Perry brand). As someone said earlier in this thread, he has the money to continue campaigning, so why not?

2) Perry's being paid off by Romney and co. to split the Tea Party vote.

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« Reply #1674 on: January 04, 2012, 05:15:45 PM »
How long has Piers Morgan lived here?  On CNN he assumed the role of a veteran caucus junkie. 

I plan to watch more FNC next primary, the cosmetics model and ponderous goofball are oddly endearing.

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« Reply #1675 on: January 04, 2012, 05:48:47 PM »
How long has Piers Morgan lived here?


3 months max. Dude needs to be deported.

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« Reply #1676 on: January 04, 2012, 06:28:40 PM »
The Perry Train is pulling into South Carolina!

Question:

Why?

One of two reasons (or both), I think:

1) Perry realizes that Santorum almost winning Iowa means that, in this race, shit just doesn't make sense and that there's still a possibility he could win a state or two (which would help people forget the embarrassing debate performances and commercials, thus restoring some dignity to the Perry brand). As someone said earlier in this thread, he has the money to continue campaigning, so why not?

2) Perry's being paid off by Romney and co. to split the Tea Party vote.

If you've followed his campaign over the last few weeks, you'll notice that Perry has started to emphasize issues like school prayer, gay marriage, abortion, etc. I think this is a pretty deliberate effort on his part to appeal to voters in the Bible Belt. He believes that his schtick might be more effective in the deep South, so he's gonna take one last shot at it. It's pretty clear, however, that South Carolina is Perry's last stand. If he doesn't finish in the top 3 there, then he might as well pack it up and go back to Austin.

Ultimately, this was a wasted opportunity for Perry. I don't think people really understand how strong the anti-Romney sentiment is within many corners of the conservative movement. Perry could have been the anti-Mitt Romney. He fit the profile to a tee, in fact. But those lackluster (and that's being kind) debate performances really destroyed his campaign.
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« Reply #1677 on: January 04, 2012, 07:35:23 PM »
How long has Piers Morgan lived here?


3 months max. Dude needs to be deported.

You guys read on Huffington about his Twitter war with Keith Olbermann?  Keith seems like he's imploding, to be honest.

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« Reply #1678 on: January 04, 2012, 08:25:19 PM »
I think the entrance polls from yesterday show that Santorum is going to be Huckabee 2.0 where all he can really do is bring in the evangelical voters and that's not going to be enough.... thankfully. Romney is going to run away with it unless Paul can gain a little more momentum outside of the 35 and under voters but I don't think that can happen. The best thing that could happen for Obama is for more close races like yesterday to create confusion, but don't you get that feeling that Romney is going to be the presumed candidate sooner rather than later? I'm desperately hoping for a couple independent candidates to gain some steam on both sides of the fence.

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« Reply #1679 on: January 04, 2012, 09:56:52 PM »
I think Romney's going to win, pretty easily when it's all over.  My own hope is that some combination of people stay in the race long enough that the story ends up being "Romney is the nominee, but 60% of Republicans don't like him."

Many people in the more evangelical-dominated regions of the country will have a brutal time walking in and voting for someone who they believe is going to hell.  They also believe Obama is going to hell, but they think he's going because he's secretly not what they call a Christian.  Romney is openly, proudly what they call not a Christian.  Some of them will be able to live with that hypocrisy, some won't.

The election will be close because Obama is genuinely unpopular with a lot of people and the people who won it for him are not enthusiastic.  I think he's been a disappointing president.  But I also think he can successfully make the argument that he's likely to be the only thing standing between our governing system and the complete and utter violence that the people who control the GOP want to unleash upon it.  And I say that as a very disaffected centrist Democrat. 

I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!