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« Reply #1800 on: February 13, 2012, 11:47:07 AM »
In case you needed any more convincing that the functional definition of "conservative" is now "someone who opposes anything--anything-- they suspect liberals might like:"

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« Reply #1801 on: February 13, 2012, 12:34:40 PM »
It continues!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/santorum-moves-ahead-in-michigan.html

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Rick Santorum's taken a large lead in Michigan's upcoming Republican primary. He's at 39% to 24% for Mitt Romney, 12% for Ron Paul, and 11% for Newt Gingrich.

Santorum's rise is attributable to two major factors: his own personal popularity (a stellar 67/23 favorability) and GOP voters increasingly souring on Gingrich.  Santorum's becoming something closer and closer to a consensus conservative candidate as Gingrich bleeds support.

Santorum's winning an outright majority of the Tea Party vote with 53% to 22% for Romney and 10% for Gingrich. He comes close to one with Evangelicals as well at 48% to 20% for Romney and 12% for Gingrich. And he cracks the 50% line with voters identifying as 'very conservative' at 51% to 20% for Romney and 10% for Gingrich.

Santorum's benefiting from the open nature of Michigan's primary as well. He's only up by 12 points with actual Republican voters, but he has a 40-21 advantage with the Democrats and independents planning to vote that pushes his overall lead up to 15 points. Santorum is winning by a healthy margin in every region of the state except for Oakland County, where Romney has a 40-26 advantage, and the area around Lansing where Paul actually has an advantage at 30% to 27% for both Romney and Santorum.

Republican voters aren't just declining to vote for Gingrich at this point- they don't even like him anymore. Just 38% have a favorable opinion of him to 47% with a negative one. His numbers are inching back closer to what they were before his surge in the polls began in November. His continued presence in the race is a boost to Romney though. 54% of his supporters would go to Santorum if he dropped out, compared to only 21% for Romney and 14% for Paul. Santorum's lead in a Newt-less field would expand to 21 points with him at 48% to 27% for Romney and 13% for Paul. So every day Gingrich stays in is a saving grace for Romney's hopes.

Michigan is perceived as a state where Romney really has a home field advantage, but only 26% of primary voters actually consider him to be a Michigander while 62% do not. Only 39% have a favorable opinion of George Romney with a 46% plurality having no opinion about him.  Romney really doesn't have some great reservoir of goodwill in Michigan to fall back on. Only 49% of voters have a favorable opinion of him to 39% with a negative one. That's down a net 28 points from our last poll of Michigan in July when he was at +38 (61/23).

For all that, Santorum probably shouldn't get too comfortable. There is a lot of potential for fluidity in the Michigan race, with only 47% of voters saying they're strongly committed to their candidate while 53% are open to changing their minds in the next two weeks.

Romney's support is a little more firm with 52% of his voters saying they'll definitely end up supporting him compared to 46% who say that for Santorum. This situation is reminiscent of what happened in Florida right after Newt Gingrich's big win in South Carolina- he took the lead then quickly lost it in a big way after coming under attack by Romney. Given how open voters are to changing their minds a repeat of that in Michigan would not be a huge surprise.

It's pretty likely, though, that Romney will carpet bomb the state with negative ads ("RICK SANTORUM VOTED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!!! HE'S FOR BIG GUBMINT!!!") and pull out a win. One of the reasons Gingrich was able to win South Carolina is that he spent a lot of money on advertising there, and the reason Santorum was able to win those three states last week is that Romney didn't put out many, if any, ads in any of them. Santorum, as far as I know, doesn't have much money at all, and even if he had a couple million dollars to blow on ads, Romney could still easily outspend him 5:1.

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« Reply #1802 on: February 13, 2012, 02:26:57 PM »
As a young Michigander lad, I shook George Romney's hand once.  He was a decent Republican who really deserved a better son.
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« Reply #1803 on: February 14, 2012, 04:28:31 PM »
http://www.liberalsloveromney.com/

I love "(MOUSE OVER THE LIBERALS TO VIEW)."

I had no idea that Mitt Romney endorsed Rocky Anderson and vice versa. Anderson's more or less in the same area of the political spectrum as Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader. Santorum or Gingrich could make a pretty effective negative ad out of this, if anybody knew who the hell Rocky Anderson was.

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« Reply #1804 on: February 14, 2012, 05:57:53 PM »
Santorum or Gingrich could make a pretty effective negative ad out of this, if anybody knew who the hell Rocky Anderson was.

Nobody knows who Saul Alinsky is but that doesn't stop Gingrich from desperately trying to connect him to Obama at every possible moment.
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« Reply #1805 on: February 14, 2012, 06:20:21 PM »
Santorum or Gingrich could make a pretty effective negative ad out of this, if anybody knew who the hell Rocky Anderson was.

Nobody knows who Saul Alinsky is but that doesn't stop Gingrich from desperately trying to connect him to Obama at every possible moment.

That's different though. Unlike "Rocky Anderson," "Saul Alinsky" sounds Jewish, which is enough.
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« Reply #1806 on: February 14, 2012, 06:53:22 PM »
Newt's Dream Team (from his official website -- this isn't something someone made as a goof):


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« Reply #1807 on: February 14, 2012, 07:33:22 PM »
Newt's Dream Team (from his official website -- this isn't something someone made as a goof):


Chuck Norris' head looks superimposed as all hell.  And I wouldn't be surprised if that Fred Thompson shot is a still from the Law & Order opening credits.

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« Reply #1808 on: February 14, 2012, 07:55:20 PM »
Is that Judith Light?

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« Reply #1809 on: February 14, 2012, 09:19:18 PM »
Whoa, is JC Watts still on planet Earth?
I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

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« Reply #1810 on: February 14, 2012, 09:27:33 PM »
Whoa, is JC Watts still on planet Earth?

No, he's already set up headquarters in Permanent Moonbase.

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« Reply #1811 on: February 15, 2012, 08:20:23 PM »
http://www.liberalsloveromney.com/

I love "(MOUSE OVER THE LIBERALS TO VIEW)."

I had no idea that Mitt Romney endorsed Rocky Anderson and vice versa. Anderson's more or less in the same area of the political spectrum as Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader. Santorum or Gingrich could make a pretty effective negative ad out of this, if anybody knew who the hell Rocky Anderson was.

He's the guy from the 13th Floor Elevators, duh.
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« Reply #1812 on: February 16, 2012, 06:33:53 PM »
I have no problem with nuanced political satire, but I find this caricature to be a little bit over the top ... oh wait, this is a REAL PERSON???

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« Reply #1813 on: February 16, 2012, 06:48:38 PM »
I'm calling bullshit.  What real person has a name like "Foster Friess"? (Californians will recognize this transparently bogus monicker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosters_Freeze)

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« Reply #1814 on: February 16, 2012, 07:16:39 PM »
I have no problem with nuanced political satire, but I find this caricature to be a little bit over the top ... oh wait, this is a REAL PERSON???

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Truly humorless.
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