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Beth

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #435 on: September 30, 2008, 12:33:32 PM »
Bottom line: Sweden! Sweden! Sweden!

Right?

Are you nuts? They'd never let us in.


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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #436 on: September 30, 2008, 12:49:59 PM »

 

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #437 on: September 30, 2008, 03:53:12 PM »
you're gonna love hell, its a lot like Ohio.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #438 on: September 30, 2008, 03:55:36 PM »
Bottom line: Sweden! Sweden! Sweden!

Right?

Eh, no thanks. I already have an IKEA by my house.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #439 on: September 30, 2008, 04:17:07 PM »
It might bring a painful recession, but it will be quick. What the bailout will bring is a long, mid-level recession with the dollar in the gutter when we get out and if Obama gets elected, that will be his legacy...

On what basis do you claim that the recession will be "quick?"

And one what basis do you claim that the bailout will bring a "long, mid-level recession?"

That's just what I've been reading man. I have no basis but it makes sense to me. Letting them fall will bring upon quick change to bring us out of a painful recession. Bailing them out is business as usual, a patch if you will, to keep operating like we are right now (which already can be called a recession) but with 700 billion dollars to account for. Option #1 will hurt everybody for a short period of time until the economy gets fixed, option #2 hurts middle class Americans for a long period of time even though the economy has been patched. I guess where you stand on the bailout all depends on how much you believe in the current system and I think both Democrats and Neo-Cons have a strong belief that the current system works.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #440 on: September 30, 2008, 05:55:34 PM »
You can afford to say that Emma, sittin' up there in Toronto, all smug and having a good laugh at the Americans and their foolishness. Oh, I bet you and your compadres are having a few good belly laughs right about now. And I can't blame you. I would too, if I were you.

Well, times are hard this side of the border and they're about to get a whole lot harder.

I'd say most Canadians are just about as worried about the U.S. elections as U.S. citizens are. We depend on you, and we like you, so we take it all pretty personally.

Plus, we're embroiled in our own nasty little election, and up here, the good guys have about ZERO chance of winning. Our Prime Minister is a G.W.B. Jr., and he's in the process of solidifying his power here. So that pretty much sucks.


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We've heard about the Canadian election, but in typical American self-absorbed fashion, there isn't much mention of it in the US media, is there? Or am I failing to read things I should? I learned more about the election in a two-day visit to Canada than I possibly could have by staying at home.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #441 on: September 30, 2008, 06:00:02 PM »
Bottom line: Sweden! Sweden! Sweden!

Right?

Eh, no thanks. I already have an IKEA by my house.

When I was in New York in April, some people I met were thrilled that I was from Sweden. "We love IKEA!" they said. And then they asked, "Do you have IKEA in Sweden?"

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #442 on: September 30, 2008, 06:01:07 PM »
Hey bailout fans, check out Paul Krugman's comment on the NY Times site today. You might have to read it a couple of times to get it to stick like I did, but it goes a long way to understanding what the government is really proposing to do. It's not so much a matter of making a big gift to Wall Street firms and commercial banks (although that might happen in effect, it's not the objective). He argues that it's not even a matter of getting foreigners to buy US treasuries -- I get what he means, but I'm not sure it's quite that easy.

If everyone in America read this, I'm sure they'd be confused as hell, but at least we'd stop with the nonsense about this bailout being socialism.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/where-will-the-money-come-from/

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #443 on: September 30, 2008, 08:40:37 PM »
Bottom line: Sweden! Sweden! Sweden!

Right?

Eh, no thanks. I already have an IKEA by my house.

When I was in New York in April, some people I met were thrilled that I was from Sweden. "We love IKEA!" they said. And then they asked, "Do you have IKEA in Sweden?"

TRUE STORY

I need closure on that anecdote.
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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #444 on: September 30, 2008, 08:58:41 PM »
I kind of wish he would ask why the Democrat's are backing this plan but Michael Moore despises the bailout as well.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=235

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #445 on: September 30, 2008, 09:47:03 PM »
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I kind of wish he would ask why the Democrat's are backing this plan but Michael Moore despises the bailout as well.

I couldn't make it through the overheated hyperbole of just his first paragraph... I'm sorry, I'm sure there are good points hiding in there.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #446 on: September 30, 2008, 09:55:29 PM »
so in the NYT example, what happens if the insitutions that are issued the bonds in exchange for equity continue to go about business as usual?  Nothing changes, right?  Except that now the US govt owns a piece of the shitty companies and the bonds eventually get sold to make their balance sheets look better at some future date?  And if the companies do well, what is the likelihood that the taxpayers actually share in the good fortune of the company/govt (and I'm talking about the people who pay their taxes and their mortgages, not the people who cannot pay their ridiculous ARM's)  

In that scenario, what's the end game for the govt?  When do they disconnect themselves from the scenario?  Why should we think that interjecting our inefficient govt into these companies will make them run any better/more efficiently? Or are we just turning the money over and letting the industry that got us into this mess keep running wild?
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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #447 on: September 30, 2008, 09:59:07 PM »
Quote from: Michael Moore
Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage "crisis" may never have happened.

Way to go out on a limb, there.
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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #448 on: September 30, 2008, 10:08:55 PM »
I was just putting it out there, I'm not a huge fan of the guy. It's just weird that he's the first liberal I've heard (that isn't an average citizen) who thinks this bailout is a load of crap. I think he's right that once again the Dems are getting played by fear and confusion.

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Re: Why The Dems Might Lose
« Reply #449 on: September 30, 2008, 10:13:00 PM »
I agree. I think what he's saying is right, but I also think he's piggy backing his other causes (which is obviously his right, it's his blog)

I heard the bailout wouldn't have been needed if GM had stayed in Flint Michigan.
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