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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1260 on: October 15, 2010, 12:42:00 AM »
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1261 on: October 15, 2010, 07:52:48 AM »
Is it just me or did The Social Network kind of stink? On the one hand I can appreciate David Fincher's ability to give just about any subject enough style and sheen to make it lots of fun to watch, and the acting was very good across the board. But I thought the script was hamfisted, with Zuckerberg in particular turned into a cipher and a monster, some kind of straw man stand in for everything Sorkin apparently loathes and doesn't understand about the internet.

Also, having seen very little of his TV work I can only conclude his reputation as a great writer of dialogue is overstated. His main trick -- having characters suddenly switch back and forth between topics mid-conversation, confusing each other and the audience -- got old fast for me. That opening scene patter was truly painful.

Maybe I'm just overreacting to all the hype. I did enjoy most of the film in the moment.

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« Reply #1262 on: October 15, 2010, 08:11:29 AM »
So, a less dick way of saying what I said in my last post:

There is no way that someone could come up with all of that by simply watching the film.  If that's what it takes to enjoy/appreciate film, then film is doomed.  But it's not because of the people who don't understand it. It's because of the snobbery and self-importance of the people who do.   
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« Reply #1263 on: October 15, 2010, 08:56:42 AM »
Well, that's still pretty dick.  I'll grant a couple of instances of critical jargon in my first sentence and then posit that anyone of passing filmgoing intelligence could see for themselves the other things I mentioned.

But hey, you're right!  Hitchcock is very highbrow, far beyond the comprehension of most people.  That's why his films have always been a cultivated taste, unpopular with mass audiences.  Cinema can only thrive by producing films that are easier to understand and enjoy than those of Alfred Hitchcock.
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1264 on: October 15, 2010, 09:42:16 AM »
So, a less dick way of saying what I said in my last post:

There is no way that someone could come up with all of that by simply watching the film.  If that's what it takes to enjoy/appreciate film, then film is doomed.  But it's not because of the people who don't understand it. It's because of the snobbery and self-importance of the people who do.

I thought everyone already knew that Speilberg and George Lucas killed Film.

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« Reply #1265 on: October 15, 2010, 10:33:29 AM »
Well, that's still pretty dick.  I'll grant a couple of instances of critical jargon in my first sentence and then posit that anyone of passing filmgoing intelligence could see for themselves the other things I mentioned.

But hey, you're right!  Hitchcock is very highbrow, far beyond the comprehension of most people.  That's why his films have always been a cultivated taste, unpopular with mass audiences.  Cinema can only thrive by producing films that are easier to understand and enjoy than those of Alfred Hitchcock.

Dude, you kicked off this dickfest by saying that movies are doomed in response to Andy saying he wasn't into Rear Window.

And it's not just your first sentence that reeks of critical jargon-that whole post was loaded to the eyeballs with fancy pants crit-speak and a lot of hyperbolic poppycock thrown around, as well as a didactic, down-from-on-high tone to boot. You are deliberately interpreting your own way not only what Andy said, but also what I said.

Do you really think any of us who've seen RW must've been so woefully unprepared & poorly educated to take in all the shit you so helpfully pointed out? Or that, despite all of that, someone still may not care for the movie?
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1266 on: October 15, 2010, 10:43:26 AM »
I still say Grace Kelly is pretty.

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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1267 on: October 15, 2010, 11:35:42 AM »
I agree with Sarah.

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« Reply #1268 on: October 15, 2010, 11:38:03 AM »
"Grace Kelly's wardrobe."

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Do you really think any of us who've seen RW must've been so woefully unprepared & poorly educated to take in all the shit you so helpfully pointed out?

Um, no.  I said very specifically that I would expect most people who would see that movie to see most of what I pointed out.  It was Andy I was talking to, not you.

Actually, I think the dickishness began with "What did I miss?," which is always a tendentious question.  Andy said the movie bored him, and you know what they say about being bored, and I shouldn't even have offered an answer, except that he trumpeted it as a victory that nobody was bothering to.

"What did I miss" is always a hostile question, because the person asking it knows that he isn't going to get an answer that will satisfy him.  He already knows what he thinks.  He just wants to embarrass all the nameless others who have told him it was a great movie by putting their representatives on the spot and letting them waste their energy defending something that really doesn't need any defense.

I shouldn't have fallen into the trap.  Having come this far, let me offer another answer, but I don't expect it to impress him any more than the first:

Andy, you missed that it is a very good movie, cleverly written and stylishly directed, with interesting characters and an engaging plot.
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1269 on: October 15, 2010, 11:43:33 AM »
I agree with Sarah.

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« Reply #1270 on: October 15, 2010, 11:48:13 AM »

Actually, I think the dickishness began with "What did I miss?,"

Incorrect. Go back a few more posts where you typed "Movies really are doomed."

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« Reply #1271 on: October 15, 2010, 11:52:48 AM »

Is this thing on?

Ha!  I didn't see it yet. Sorry.

The only reason no one responded to your post was because you posted it in the middle of a "heated" discussion.  You are loved! : )
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1272 on: October 15, 2010, 11:56:50 AM »
I agree with Sarah and Martin.
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Re: General Movie Thread
« Reply #1273 on: October 15, 2010, 11:57:33 AM »
You couldn't make a cup of tea with the heat generated by spats on this board.

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« Reply #1274 on: October 15, 2010, 12:08:26 PM »
Can't believe we haven't mentioned Woody Allen after three pages of discussing directors who want to fuck their actresses (or actors). 

Imagine if every autumn you posted a Facebook update mentioning who you most want to fuck. That is what Woody Allen's films are.*




*Fine, they're a lot more than that, but they are that.




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