Kid Rock or ICP - who's the stupidest?

[Kid Pain]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Chdw_kAdI[/youtube]

ICP trying be a touch more middle of the road stupid.

[erechoveraker]

Who're the 2 dudes towards the end of the video with the black eyes?

[Fido]

Somehow Detroit remains legandary for its music scene. These two acts, plus Ted Nugent, Eminem, and Jack White cancel out all former greatness tenfold. I say we should leave this dying city and its rusty cars in 2008.

That lineup could cancel out any city's claim to a heritage of musical greatness. I already forgot what Motown was, aside from Diana Ross Marvin Gaye and Smokey Robinson. Maybe you're right, Forrest.

In spite of all the stupidity it has generated, somehow I really feel sympathy for Detroit these days.

[KickTheBobo]

Both Kid Rock and ICP might be stupid, but I can pretty much guarantee that they have worked their asses off, which is something that I respect.

Given the choice, if I was offered a free ride and ticket to either an ICP show or say, an IMA Robot gig, I'd take the former and have a blast getting sprayed with Faygo and experiencing a crowd that is absolutely rabid for the music rather than just another bullshit aloof scene fashion show that is much more about the digicam pics of yourself posted the next day.

Before I go and bash either of these acts (which I have done, many times) shouldn't I really be asking myself: What the fuck have YOU accomplished today?


truth be told: the final song on Shangri-La/ The Wraith (Thy Unveiling), in which ICP reveals that the Dark Carnival is all about God, and the accompanying video put a real smile on my face. Maybe I'm just a big dummy.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nweCfXsb_0[/youtube]

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If you want to see a goofy band that sprays shit on the crowd, go see GWAR instead.  Funnier, better loved, corn-syrup-free band.

[Pride of Staten Island]

I couldn't make it the whole way through the baby video. I could see where it was going and I couldn't deal with it.

I would say Kid Rock is dumber because I think his stupidity seems more sincere. ICP are definitely idiots but I don't know how much of their schtick is a cynical put on. At least some of it is, I'm sure. I'd bet they're fully aware that their music doesn't have to be at all "good," even by their low standards. It's fully an image/lifestyle thing, which is despicable and nauseating but takes some degree of savvy.

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident Kid Rock thinks he's the greatest. And that makes him really stupid.

[dave from knoxville]

Somehow Detroit remains legandary for its music scene. These two acts, plus Ted Nugent, Eminem, and Jack White cancel out all former greatness tenfold. I say we should leave this dying city and its rusty cars in 2008.

Not until my box of wine gets delivered!

[dave from knoxville]

fanta?


BLASPHEMY!!!

Isn't that Fahnta?

[Bryan]

Both Kid Rock and ICP might be stupid, but I can pretty much guarantee that they have worked their asses off, which is something that I respect.
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Before I go and bash either of these acts (which I have done, many times) shouldn't I really be asking myself: What the fuck have YOU accomplished today?

I think it's more important to consider what they've been working for than the simple fact of their hard work. Lots of people work hard towards repugnant goals - I don't respect that one little bit.

It's true that maybe these guys have "accomplished" more than I have, but I think that what little I do accomplish is making the world marginally better rather than substantially worse.

[erechoveraker]

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident Kid Rock thinks he's the greatest. And that makes him really stupid.

I think my whole argument was just destroyed by this, damn.

[Clint]

This would be the perfect time to post a link to the born-again christian juggalo forum that I saw a few years back. Looks like its vanished from the face of the internet though.

[Steve of Bloomington]

This would be the perfect time to post a link to the born-again christian juggalo forum that I saw a few years back. Looks like its vanished from the face of the internet though.

Everybody backslid into the crack-addiction phase of the cycle...just wait a while.

[CurtBlair]

I'm somewhat persuaded by the argument that Kid Rock may be stupider because he thinks he is destined to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with "the greats" (or, at least, his idea of who "the greats" are*), whereas ICP seem a bit more aware of what they're doing.

However: in any contest of stupidity, shouldn't the person or persons who enjoy "backyard wrestling" ALWAYS win?

I think the two very different but incredibly potent forms of stupidity here cannot be quantitatively compared. It's dumb apples and dumb oranges.



*Bob Seger, Bob Seger, and Bob Seger

[Beth]

This would be the perfect time to post a link to the born-again christian juggalo forum that I saw a few years back. Looks like its vanished from the face of the internet though.

well, there's this

[jamesp]

Thanks to this thread, I've spent half the evening researching ICP stuff online, like this hilarious FAQ -

http://www.insaneclownposse.com/page.php?page_id=icp_pr_interview

I'd go with ICP because 2 months ago I spent like 2 hours reading their Wikipedia. It's sad that historical figures have less detailed entries than ICP.

How much would you have to be paid to attend "The Gathering of the Juggalos?"

As for Kid Rock's country shtick, since when does living in Michigan for your entire life make you a Southern Good Old Boy?