Dollhouse

[mcphee from the forum]

It's hard to imagine him ever having a hit, unfortunately.

wha

[Sarah]

Watched the most recent ep.  Still not madly impressed.  Something just isn't clicking for me.  Next week's looks promisingly chaotic, though, what with all those actives impersonating federal agents.

[A.M. Thomas]

Yeah, this show needs to be funnier.

[akaJudge]

how was Patton?

[oilcantim]

It's hard to imagine him ever having a hit, unfortunately.

wha

Well, I mean, think about it.  Buffy and Angel were in-joke, self-reference fests.  They only did well compared to the other stuff on UPN/WB.  Firefly was a western in space (enough said.)  Dr. Horrible's demographic is basically fans of his three other series, minus those who can't stand musicals.

I think executives are expecting this stuff to appeal to a mass audience, but I don't know why.

[Sarah]

Two things really bothered me about this episode that was supposed to be so wonderful, the turning point of the series, etc., etc., etc.

First, how was it possible to imprint Echo with a reasonable facsimile of Rebecca (I think that was the P.O. character's wife's name)?  

Second, I was massively annoyed that the neighbor turned about to be an active, especially after the folderol with Victor.  

Make that three things:  what a pointlessly complicated way of getting rid of the naughty handler.  

I could probably list more if the episode weren't already drifting out of my brain.

P.S.  Patton did fine, akaJudge.

[Denim Gremlin]

Two things really bothered me about this episode that was supposed to be so wonderful, the turning point of the series, etc., etc., etc.

First, how was it possible to imprint Echo with a reasonable facsimile of Rebecca (I think that was the P.O. character's wife's name)?  

Second, I was massively annoyed that the neighbor turned about to be an active, especially after the folderol with Victor.  

Make that three things:  what a pointlessly complicated way of getting rid of the naughty handler.  

I could probably list more if the episode weren't already drifting out of my brain.

P.S.  Patton did fine, akaJudge.

maybe you should just watch kings

[Sarah]

I will watch both.  And I will continue to irritate you with negative comments about Dollhouse as long as it amuses me and happily celebrate positives when I perceive them.

[Beth]

I did like how the most recent episode provoked actual emotional reactions from me. The story of the rich dude who wants his wife back was a bit far fetched, but the ending definitely made me a bit misty.  I'm also bummed that Mellie is a doll. I actually thought it would be better if she had been killed...for the story's sake. Not that I don't like her character. But it might have been interesting...a little more out of left field than "ooooo...another character we didn't think is a doll is a doll!"
Also I dug the fight scene. I never had hate for Eliza. Faith was a favorite character on Buffy, and  I like when she's "badass".
The television interview thing was kind of weak, though. Can't they make something look like it's actually a news report in this day and age, instead of using some cheesy interlacing effect? As for the humor,I did notice more Whedon-esque jokes in this episode. It's an improvement, anyway.
The exploitative undertones of the show, however, continue to make me uncomfortable. There was lots of eye candy to ogle on Buffy, but it feels a little out of control on Dollhouse.

[snogrog]

Dolls are teh new Cylons, then?

[Denim Gremlin]

I did like how the most recent episode provoked actual emotional reactions from me. The story of the rich dude who wants his wife back was a bit far fetched, but the ending definitely made me a bit misty.  I'm also bummed that Mellie is a doll. I actually thought it would be better if she had been killed...for the story's sake. Not that I don't like her character. But it might have been interesting...a little more out of left field than "ooooo...another character we didn't think is a doll is a doll!"
Also I dug the fight scene. I never had hate for Eliza. Faith was a favorite character on Buffy, and  I like when she's "badass".
The television interview thing was kind of weak, though. Can't they make something look like it's actually a news report in this day and age, instead of using some cheesy interlacing effect? As for the humor,I did notice more Whedon-esque jokes in this episode. It's an improvement, anyway.
The exploitative undertones of the show, however, continue to make me uncomfortable. There was lots of eye candy to ogle on Buffy, but it feels a little out of control on Dollhouse.

i think you're supposed to be uncomfortable.

It's pretty clear we're not supposed to think that the dollhouse is a good thing and i think over the course of the series the main theme is going to be that no matter how much they try to make these people objects they will always be people. that's why they still retain things after being wiped.

i'm positive this show wasn't designed to be an empty hot people showcase

[Kim Kelly]

I have a stupid question. Is Mellie supposed to be TV fat?

[Beth]

She's as fat as Kelly Clarkson, so yes.

[~L]

So sad, remember "Lorn" the good demon, who was played by Andy Hallet on Angel? Andy Hallet died last weekend of congestive heart failure at age 33.

[Regular Joe]

So sad, remember "Lorn" the good demon, who was played by Andy Hallet on Angel? Andy Hallet died last weekend of congestive heart failure at age 33.

That's really sad to hear. No matter if I can get behind Dollhouse or not, Angel (particularly the very last season) was amazing, in no small part due to this man. Too young to go!