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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #375 on: July 02, 2009, 01:32:10 PM »
Very excited about the Cubs big move to counter the DeRosa deal.  Jeff Baker joins the stable of exciting utlity guys that can't hit currently populating the roster.

I would take major league utility guys over the quadruple-A schlubs currently occupying the Mets' roster. but yeah, that jeff baker move makes little sense to me

i foresee this trading deadline being extremely boring.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #376 on: July 02, 2009, 02:11:31 PM »
i foresee this trading deadline being extremely boring.

Considering the fact that there are only a few teams that can really afford to add anyone, you're probably right.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #377 on: July 02, 2009, 02:40:25 PM »
i foresee this trading deadline being extremely boring.

Considering the fact that there are only a few teams that can really afford to add anyone, you're probably right.

Well that and many gm's believe that their teams are still in the hunt for the playoffs. Plus no team is going to give up good, young cost-controlled players for a rental, particularly in this economic environment.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #378 on: July 02, 2009, 07:25:54 PM »
I hope this doesn't get me kicked out for being a spammy bastard, but I thought some of you might be interested in the sorts of player evaluation things I do as I pursue the pennant (I have won my 12 team league twice in the last 8 years.) So here's an email I sent today to guys in my league.

The players are split according to teams in my league. For example, the first two sets are the batters and then pitchers for the first of the 12 teams. My team includes Hanley Ramirez and Dan Haren. I actually develop formulas nearly daily to run player evaluations, usually either for the entire year, or for the last month (if I need to pick up a player to replace an injured guy for the short term, I tend to take free agents who have been hot over the previous month.

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This time the listing gives rank, player, and $ value based on their performance to date for the year; players are attached to teams according to who currently holds the rights to that player. Look carefully and you'll see that while I picked up some good players for this year, Steve also made out like a bandit; in Heath Bell alone, he got a player whose performance to date is worth over 14 ROTN bucks, and he keeps him next year for a quarter. If Steve doesn't waste all of his money on contemptible players like Brandon Webb and Alfonso Soriano, he should be in good shape.

The dollar figures don't add up exactly to $780 as they should, as I am listing the players with a negative value according not to the minimum of a .25 that draws money out of the available cash pool, but according to their "real" ROTN value. In other words, Bill Hall's in the top 168 offensive players, so he's required to be paid the minimum .25; I don't list that salary, I list his value in REAL ROTN $s; bastard's costing me almost a buck and a quarter.


49) Ross, Cody CF FLA 5.46
75) Bruce, Jay RF CIN 4
118) Feliz, Pedro 3B PHI 2.26
183) Nix, Laynce CF CIN 0.67
186) Ross, David C ATL 0.6
190) Rollins, Jimmy SS PHI 0.55
205) Counsell, Craig 3B MIL 0.19
222) Kotchman, Casey 1B ATL -0.18
224) Hernandez, Anderson 2B WAS -0.2
246) Fox, Jake 1B CHC -0.76
251) Mayberry, John OF PHI -0.87
256) Tracy, Chad A. 1B ARI -1
258) Blum, Geoff 3B HOU -1.04
263) Hundley, Nick C SD -1.2
284) Gonzalez, Alex SS CIN -1.85
294) Blanks, Kyle 1B SD -2.34
296) Baker, Jeff 2B COL -2.42



3) Bell, Heath RP SD 14.05
106) Ohlendorf, Ross SP PIT 2.81
124) Oswalt, Roy SP HOU 2.11
150) Dempster, Ryan SP CHC 1.37
241) Owings, Micah SP CIN -0.59
259) Blanton, Joe SP PHI -1.08
277) Nolasco, Ricky SP FLA -1.6
307) Silva, Walter RP SD -2.69
308) Snell, Ian SP PIT -3.04
309) Sanchez, Jonathan O. SP SF -3.17



56) Pierre, Juan LF LA 4.82
121) Weeks, Rickie 2B MIL 2.21
125) Kouzmanoff, Kevin 3B SD 2.11
162) Anderson, Garret LF ATL 1.01
164) Dukes, Elijah RF WAS 0.96
176) Drew, Stephen SS ARI 0.76
177) Hardy, J.J. SS MIL 0.75
189) Delgado, Carlos 1B NYM 0.55
212) Fontenot, Mike 2B CHC 0.06
238) Bradley, Milton OF CHC -0.53
255) Schneider, Brian C NYM -0.99
272) Jackson, Conor 1B ARI -1.44
278) Torrealba, Yorvit C COL -1.65
280) Kearns, Austin RF WAS -1.73



10) Hoffman, Trevor RP MIL 10.65
78) Madson, Ryan RP PHI 3.86
95) Lidge, Brad RP PHI 3.43
110) Kuroda, Hiroki SP LA 2.58
161) Marshall, Sean SP CHC 1.07
198) Looper, Braden SP MIL 0.33
204) Zito, Barry SP SF 0.2
254) Burton, Jared RP CIN -0.99
282) Arroyo, Bronson SP CIN -1.78



16) Braun, Ryan J. LF MIL 9.23
17) Utley, Chase 2B PHI 8.24
66) Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL 4.5
85) Stewart, Ian 3B COL 3.62
102) Cameron, Mike CF MIL 3.02
105) Ludwick, Ryan RF STL 2.88
151) Reyes, Jose B. SS NYM 1.35
181) Hernandez, Ramon C CIN 0.68
211) McCutchen, Andrew OF PIT 0.08
232) Ruiz, Carlos C PHI -0.38
252) Moss, Brandon LF PIT -0.88
264) Diaz, Robinzon C PIT -1.21
265) Gamel, Mat 3B MIL -1.21
274) Roberts, Ryan 3B ARI -1.5
292) Martinez, Fernando OF NYM -2.24
300) Giles, Brian RF SD -2.47



4) Rodriguez, Francisco J. RP NYM 12.97
43) Lilly, Ted SP CHC 6
59) Wells, Randy RP CHC 4.76
86) Rodriguez, Wandy SP HOU 3.59
90) Valverde, Jose RP HOU 3.52
98) Nunez, Leo RP FLA 3.31
103) Jimenez, Ubaldo SP COL 2.99
122) Scherzer, Max SP ARI 2.14
171) Myers, Brett SP PHI 0.84
191) Motte, Jason RP STL 0.54
262) Bush, Dave SP MIL -1.16



12) Ibanez, Raul LF PHI 9.9
54) Helton, Todd 1B COL 4.99
57) Tejada, Miguel SS HOU 4.81
72) Lee, Derrek 1B CHC 4.11
82) Hudson, Orlando 2B LA 3.72
96) Jones, Chipper 3B ATL 3.39
116) Lopez, Felipe 2B ARI 2.3
128) Rasmus, Colby CF STL 2.03
136) Molina, Yadier C STL 1.65
137) Hairston, Jerry LF CIN 1.64
139) Fowler, Dexter CF COL 1.61
140) Winn, Randy RF SF 1.6
170) Rodriguez, Ivan C HOU 0.84
188) Gomes, Jonny LF CIN 0.56
215) Murphy, Daniel LF NYM 0.02



28) Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL 7.3
55) Pineiro, Joel SP STL 4.88
63) Wainwright, Adam SP STL 4.72
111) McClellan, Kyle RP STL 2.43
117) Lohse, Kyle SP STL 2.28
127) Villanueva, Carlos SP MIL 2.08
158) West, Sean SP FLA 1.15
182) Maholm, Paul SP PIT 0.68
267) Hanrahan, Joel RP PIT -1.33
311) Wellemeyer, Todd SP STL -3.41



13) Reynolds, Mark 3B ARI 9.71
48) Lee, Carlos N. LF HOU 5.53
64) Victorino, Shane CF PHI 4.59
76) Cantu, Jorge 3B FLA 3.98
93) Uggla, Dan 2B FLA 3.48
99) Sheffield, Gary DH NYM 3.26
107) Hart, Corey C. RF MIL 2.66
129) Hermida, Jeremy RF FLA 2.03
134) Headley, Chase LF SD 1.71
144) Bonifacio, Emilio 2B FLA 1.53
199) Duncan, Chris 1B STL 0.29
220) Jaramillo, Jason C PIT -0.05
230) Montero, Miguel C ARI -0.35
253) Barden, Brian 3B STL -0.95
268) Doumit, Ryan C PIT -1.37



5) Franklin, Ryan RP STL 12.45
39) Duke, Zach SP PIT 6.39
133) Harang, Aaron SP CIN 1.72
142) Pena, Tony A. RP ARI 1.55
148) Volquez, Edinson SP CIN 1.4
152) Kawakami, Kenshin SP ATL 1.34
157) Maine, John SP NYM 1.17
159) MacDougal, Mike RP WAS 1.09
160) Pelfrey, Mike SP NYM 1.07
163) Zimmermann, Jordan SP WAS 0.99



41) Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN 6.04
52) Zimmerman, Ryan 3B WAS 5.3
97) Loney, James 1B LA 3.34
101) Molina, Bengie C SF 3.05
141) Ramirez, Manny LF LA 1.58
166) Church, Ryan RF NYM 0.94
173) Wilson, Jack SS PIT 0.82
195) Prado, Martin 3B ATL 0.43
206) Schierholtz, Nate RF SF 0.18
210) Lewis, Fred LF SF 0.1
221) Matsui, Kazuo 2B HOU -0.07
223) Paulino, Ronny C FLA -0.19
227) Ankiel, Rick CF STL -0.27
239) Johnson, Kelly 2B ATL -0.55
305) Encarnacion, Edwin 3B CIN -2.68



7) Wilson, Brian RP SF 11.22
15) Lincecum, Tim SP SF 9.32
25) Gregg, Kevin RP CHC 7.55
26) Carpenter, Chris SP STL 7.49
68) DiFelice, Mark RP MIL 4.24
83) Wolf, Randy SP LA 3.69
153) Lowe, Derek SP ATL 1.25
192) Howry, Bob RP SF 0.54
273) Geer, Josh SP SD -1.44
279) Sanchez, Anibal SP FLA -1.7
312) Perez, Oliver SP NYM -3.55



22) Kemp, Matt CF LA 7.85
30) Hawpe, Brad RF COL 6.99
67) DeRosa, Mark 2B STL 4.43
74) Barmes, Clint 2B COL 4.02
84) McCann, Brian C ATL 3.64
92) LaRoche, Adam A. 1B PIT 3.5
167) Harris, Willie LF WAS 0.94
193) Byrnes, Eric LF ARI 0.54
194) Ishikawa, Travis 1B SF 0.5
203) Ryan, Brendan SS STL 0.22
208) Dickerson, Chris LF CIN 0.14
233) Snyder, Chris C ARI -0.39
257) Keppinger, Jeff SS HOU -1
281) Gonzalez, Carlos OF COL -1.74
295) Maybin, Cameron CF FLA -2.4
297) Marson, Lou C PHI -2.43
302) Freese, David 3B STL -2.52



18) Capps, Matt RP PIT 8.15
32) Soriano, Rafael RP ATL 6.86
33) Vazquez, Javier SP ATL 6.76
100) Kershaw, Clayton SP LA 3.11
201) Perez, Chris RP CLE 0.23
217) Stults, Eric SP LA 0
225) Samardzija, Jeff RP CHC -0.2
250) Hamels, Cole SP PHI -0.85
270) Garland, Jon SP ARI -1.39
287) Park, Chan Ho SP PHI -1.97



34) Dunn, Adam LF WAS 6.68
61) Bourn, Michael CF HOU 4.74
120) Johnson, Nick 1B WAS 2.25
138) Guzman, Cristian SS WAS 1.63
172) Diaz, Matt LF ATL 0.82
185) Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC 0.61
187) Soto, Geovany C CHC 0.58
196) Taveras, Willy CF CIN 0.36
202) Eckstein, David SS SD 0.22
237) Greene, Khalil SS STL -0.52
248) Tatis, Fernando LF NYM -0.77
283) Hill, Koyie C CHC -1.82
288) Aurilia, Rich 1B SF -2.01
290) Rosales, Adam 3B CIN -2.17
306) Michaels, Jason LF HOU -2.69



2) Broxton, Jonathan RP LA 14.18
31) Qualls, Chad RP ARI 6.86
36) Hawkins, LaTroy RP HOU 6.55
109) Correia, Kevin SP SD 2.58
114) Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC 2.33
115) Weathers, David RP CIN 2.31
126) Hammel, Jason SP COL 2.09
179) Hampton, Mike SP HOU 0.72
213) Miller, Andrew SP FLA 0.05
214) Corpas, Manny RP COL 0.03
285) Suppan, Jeff SP MIL -1.89



35) Beltran, Carlos CF NYM 6.55
40) Berkman, Lance 1B HOU 6.2
60) Blake, Casey 3B LA 4.75
71) Sanchez, Freddy 2B PIT 4.17
112) Spilborghs, Ryan RF COL 2.42
132) Fukudome, Kosuke RF CHC 1.74
147) Smith, Seth RF COL 1.43
165) Schumaker, Skip CF STL 0.95
218) Baker, John C FLA -0.02
229) Atkins, Garrett 3B COL -0.34
269) Blanco, Henry C SD -1.39
271) Cabrera, Everth SS SD -1.43
293) Schafer, Jordan OF ATL -2.3
301) Rodriguez, Luis O. SS SD -2.49



27) Cain, Matt SP SF 7.46
42) Billingsley, Chad SP LA 6.01
70) Marquis, Jason SP COL 4.18
81) Belisario, Ronald RP LA 3.74
108) Davis, Doug SP ARI 2.62
113) Condrey, Clay RP PHI 2.33
131) Johnson, Randy SP SF 1.96
175) Reyes, Dennys RP STL 0.79
313) Parra, Manny SP MIL -6.31



11) Ramirez, Hanley SS FLA 10.19
19) Upton, Justin RF ARI 8.02
20) Wright, David 3B NYM 7.98
21) Gonzalez, Adrian 1B SD 7.9
89) Soriano, Alfonso LF CHC 3.52
145) Iannetta, Chris C COL 1.46
155) Renteria, Edgar SS SF 1.19
180) Hoffpauir, Micah OF CHC 0.68
209) Santos, Omir C NYM 0.1
219) Johnson, Reed CF CHC -0.03
234) Uribe, Juan 2B SF -0.41
249) Dobbs, Greg 3B PHI -0.79
261) Hall, Bill 3B MIL -1.13
266) Carroll, Brett CF FLA -1.25
276) Hinske, Eric RF NYY -1.59
299) Milledge, Lastings CF PIT -2.43



6) Haren, Dan SP ARI 12.22
9) Cordero, Francisco RP CIN 11.03
50) Troncoso, Ramon RP LA 5.44
53) Santana, Johan SP NYM 5.28
58) Sampson, Chris SP HOU 4.77
143) Ortiz, Russ SP HOU 1.54
169) Rauch, Jon RP ARI 0.87
174) Grabow, John RP PIT 0.8
240) Webb, Brandon SP ARI -0.59
243) Martis, Shairon SP WAS -0.64
291) Moyer, Jamie SP PHI -2.2



1) Pujols, Albert 1B STL 15.42
38) Werth, Jayson RF PHI 6.43
46) Pence, Hunter RF HOU 5.56
62) Votto, Joey 1B CIN 4.72
79) Rowand, Aaron CF SF 3.81
80) Theriot, Ryan SS CHC 3.79
91) Escobar, Yunel SS ATL 3.51
130) Willingham, Josh LF WAS 2.01
149) Francoeur, Jeff RF ATL 1.38
184) Castillo, Luis 2B NYM 0.62
226) Martin, Russell C LA -0.24
245) Furcal, Rafael SS LA -0.69
286) Kendall, Jason C MIL -1.97
304) DeWitt, Blake 2B LA -2.63



8) Street, Huston RP COL 11.06
23) Cueto, Johnny SP CIN 7.64
45) Jurrjens, Jair SP ATL 5.74
77) Happ, J.A. SP PHI 3.92
88) Cook, Aaron SP COL 3.52
104) Lannan, John SP WAS 2.95
119) Hanson, Tommy SP ATL 2.26
207) Putz, J.J. RP NYM 0.15
228) Medlen, Kris P ATL -0.29
236) Bastardo, Antonio SP PHI -0.49
289) Geary, Geoff RP HOU -2.05
310) Olsen, Scott SP WAS -3.37



14) Fielder, Prince 1B MIL 9.36
29) Howard, Ryan 1B PHI 7.27
44) Sandoval, Pablo 1B SF 5.93
47) Ethier, Andre RF LA 5.55
51) McLouth, Nate CF ATL 5.42
69) Hairston, Scott CF SD 4.21
94) Morgan, Nyjer LF WAS 3.46
154) LaRoche, Andy 3B PIT 1.21
156) McGehee, Casey 3B MIL 1.19
197) Young, Chris B. CF ARI 0.33
200) Flores, Jesus C WAS 0.24
231) Burriss, Emmanuel SS SF -0.37
235) Coghlan, Chris 3B FLA -0.44
242) Gonzalez, Alberto SS WAS -0.63
244) Hanigan, Ryan C CIN -0.67
260) Pagan, Angel LF NYM -1.09
275) Coste, Chris C PHI -1.51
298) Canizares, Barbaro OF ATL -2.43
303) Velez, Eugenio 2B SF -2.52



24) Johnson, Josh SP FLA 7.59
37) Gonzalez, Mike RP ATL 6.47
65) Lindstrom, Matt RP FLA 4.54
73) Meyer, Dan L. SP FLA 4.04
87) Peavy, Jake SP SD 3.53
123) Nieve, Fernando RP NYM 2.12
135) Marmol, Carlos RP CHC 1.67
146) Volstad, Chris SP FLA 1.45
168) Harden, Rich SP CHC 0.9
178) Thompson, Brad SP STL 0.74
216) Romero, J.C. RP PHI 0.02
247) Young, Chris R. SP SD -0.76

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #379 on: July 02, 2009, 09:09:33 PM »
Why don't you consider past performance in your equation? Less than half a season is quite a small sample size in a keeper league.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #380 on: July 02, 2009, 09:21:22 PM »
It's easy to hate on Boston Red Sox fans, but now that Manny and Schilling are gone, Boston has one of the classier lineups in baseball. 
Pedroia, Youkilis, Lowell, Ellsbury, Varitek, etc... GOOD GUYS lead the AL East.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #381 on: July 02, 2009, 09:25:51 PM »
I don't know, I like him, but Ellsbury kinda seems like a douche.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #382 on: July 02, 2009, 11:12:28 PM »
So does Youkilis.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #383 on: July 03, 2009, 06:47:29 AM »
It's easy to hate on Boston Red Sox fans, but now that Manny and Schilling are gone, Boston has one of the classier lineups in baseball. 
Pedroia, Youkilis, Lowell, Ellsbury, Varitek, etc... GOOD GUYS lead the AL East.

You're totally right.  I'm a Red Sox fan and I think I hate my fellow fans more than anybody does.  The team on the other hand is a real pleasure to watch and support.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #384 on: July 03, 2009, 10:12:13 AM »
Why don't you consider past performance in your equation? Less than half a season is quite a small sample size in a keeper league.

Well, no, it's actually more than adequate for most purposes. Sign up for my class!

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #385 on: July 03, 2009, 11:31:12 AM »
Why don't you consider past performance in your equation? Less than half a season is quite a small sample size in a keeper league.

Well, no, it's actually more than adequate for most purposes. Sign up for my class!

More like Trapper Keeper league. Take that, nerds.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #386 on: July 04, 2009, 03:09:53 PM »
And now a word from Manuel "Manny" Aristides Ramirez Onelcida:

"There was only one man that was perfect, and they killed him.  So that's how I look at life."

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #387 on: July 04, 2009, 04:23:34 PM »
And now a word from Manuel "Manny" Aristides Ramirez Onelcida:

"There was only one man that was perfect, and they killed him.  So that's how I look at life."

deep.  nothing like draggin jesus into your fuckups.

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #388 on: July 04, 2009, 04:30:08 PM »

"There was only one man that was perfect, and they killed him.  So that's how I look at life."

deep.  nothing like draggin jesus into your fuckups.

I thought he was talking about JFK...

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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #389 on: July 04, 2009, 06:56:41 PM »
Perhaps the Phillies have finally put the Buffalo Bis...er the New York Mets out of their misery. One can only hope.  :( >:(
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