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« Reply #390 on: July 06, 2009, 11:39:24 AM »
I just read an interesting stat that I'm sure Mets fans are painfully aware of
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In his 51-start Mets career, Santana's team has been shut out in two of his starts, scored one run eight times, two runs seven times and three runs six times. That means that in 45.1 percent of Santana's Mets starts, his team has been held to three runs or fewer.
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« Reply #391 on: July 06, 2009, 11:54:10 AM »
Quote from: jbissell on July 06, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
I just read an interesting stat that I'm sure Mets fans are painfully aware of
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In his 51-start Mets career, Santana's team has been shut out in two of his starts, scored one run eight times, two runs seven times and three runs six times. That means that in 45.1 percent of Santana's Mets starts, his team has been held to three runs or fewer.

Oh, I'm definitely aware of that. It sucks when he pitches against another ace, but infuriating when he faces off the Joe Blantons of the world.
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« Reply #392 on: July 06, 2009, 12:23:13 PM »
If I had to scrap the Mets roster and rebuild, Santana, Wright, and K-Rod would be the only two three players I would definitely keep. Everyone else would be expendable.
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« Reply #393 on: July 06, 2009, 11:40:25 PM »
I think it's funny that a big reason Santana didn't want to resign with the Twins at a hometown discount is because he didn't get run support here.
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« Reply #394 on: July 07, 2009, 08:53:16 AM »
Quote from: Gilly on July 06, 2009, 11:40:25 PM
I think it's funny that a big reason Santana didn't want to resign with the Twins at a hometown discount is because he didn't get run support here.

Or he wanted an assload of money on the FA market.
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Re: 2009 MLB Thread
« Reply #395 on: July 07, 2009, 11:15:34 AM »
Quote from: scratchbomb on July 07, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: Gilly on July 06, 2009, 11:40:25 PM
I think it's funny that a big reason Santana didn't want to resign with the Twins at a hometown discount is because he didn't get run support here.

Or he wanted an assload of money on the FA market.

Even funnier is the fact that the Yankees would rather have Phil Hughes and/or Ian Kennedy.
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« Reply #396 on: July 07, 2009, 12:52:58 PM »
But CC Sabathia is a nice, albeit expensive consolation prize.
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« Reply #397 on: July 07, 2009, 04:22:02 PM »
Quote from: TRG on July 07, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
But CC Sabathia is a nice, albeit expensive consolation prize.

I'd rather have Santana than the CC/Burnett combo.
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« Reply #398 on: July 07, 2009, 04:59:06 PM »
Quote from: jbissell on July 07, 2009, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: TRG on July 07, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
But CC Sabathia is a nice, albeit expensive consolation prize.

I'd rather have Santana than the CC/Burnett combo.

I agree. Given CC Sabathia's frame, I think he should be good for another 3 or 4 years. However, the Yankees will regret that contract by year 5. A.J. Burnett was just a waste of $80 million.
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« Reply #399 on: July 09, 2009, 09:34:46 PM »
The Mets are an absolute horror show. That is all.
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« Reply #400 on: July 09, 2009, 10:09:11 PM »
Quote from: TRG on July 09, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
The Mets are an absolute horror show. That is all.

they're at art-howe-era levels of unwatchability. good christ
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« Reply #401 on: July 10, 2009, 01:29:36 PM »
Look at it this way, it could be worse. You never had to witness the Lloyd McClendon-era Pirates in person. One season, the Pirates celebrated avoiding a 90-loss season with champagne in the clubhouse.

The Mets, though, are very hard to watch. A lack of fundamentals and a dearth of talent make for bad baseball.
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« Reply #402 on: July 10, 2009, 07:21:14 PM »
Heh. The Mets trade Ryan Church to the Braves for Jeff Francoeur. I don't know. This is a nothing move, IMO. Church is the better player right now and Francoeur is one of the worst everyday starting players in the game. But Francoeur has greater upside than Church, although I don't believe he'll pan out (He has a .282 OBP, which is utterly pathetic). His numbers have fallen off precipitously since his first two years in the Majors.

Maybe I'm wrong and he'll be a useful addition to the Mets. I doubt it, though.
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« Reply #403 on: July 10, 2009, 08:09:53 PM »
Quote from: TRG on July 10, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
Heh. The Mets trade Ryan Church to the Braves for Jeff Francoeur. I don't know. This is a nothing move, IMO. Church is the better player right now and Francoeur is one of the worst everyday starting players in the game. But Francoeur has greater upside than Church, although I don't believe he'll pan out (He has a .282 OBP, which is utterly pathetic). His numbers have fallen off precipitously since his first two years in the Majors.

Maybe I'm wrong and he'll be a useful addition to the Mets. I doubt it, though.

I absolutely hate this trade. Makes no sense to me at all. I liked Church, and Francoeur is awful. And the Braves are too smart to trade someone in-divison, unless they're positive he won't come back to haunt them.

I foresee Church destroying the Mets every time they play the Braves for the rest of the season.
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« Reply #404 on: July 10, 2009, 08:30:27 PM »
This is essentially a useless trade. Although, Church was going to depart after this season, he's still miles better than Francoeur. Francoeur, by any statistical measure, is the worst everyday outfielder in the game. He doesn't walk, he strikes out a ridiculous rate, and he has a terrible attitude. He has some upside, but it's outweighed by his 10 cent head. That the Braves, one of the shrewdest organizations in the game vis a vis talent evaluation, didn't want him any longer should tell you something. I laughed hysterically when I heard Omar call him one of the "best rightfielders in the game."

And of course, Church will burn the Mets at every opportunity. That's just their luck.

Ultimately, this organization is poorly run from top to bottom and is in dire need of a house cleaning.

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