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Joe Rogaine

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2009, 08:58:56 PM »
I thought Factotum was a pretty good film adaptation, Matt Dillon did a pretty good job.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2009, 05:10:20 PM »
He's the Poet Laureate of Muffler Row, right?

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2009, 09:44:21 PM »
When I was younger I was all about the Bukowski.  Now that I'm not as young I just can't get into him anymore.  My main thought now is "This guy should probably stop drinking"

FACTOTUM was decent, mainly for Dillon's performance.  Not really the best move to set it in modern times, though. 

I'm REALLY curious about Aimee's Buk story...
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 12:32:56 AM »
I used to be into Bukowski, too. But now I don't really dig the romanticization of vice. That said, there are some gems buried in his poetry and prose. He's worth an anthology.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 01:24:58 AM »
I used to be into Bukowski, too. But now I don't really dig the romanticization of vice. That said, there are some gems buried in his poetry and prose. He's worth an anthology.

they're not buried that deep in his poetry.  a great deal of his poems start out with a seemingly mundane observance of hard luck life and then punch you in the gut in the end with a tiny burst of humanity.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 01:43:12 AM »
I used to be into Bukowski, too. But now I don't really dig the romanticization of vice. That said, there are some gems buried in his poetry and prose. He's worth an anthology.

they're not buried that deep in his poetry.  a great deal of his poems start out with a seemingly mundane observance of hard luck life and then punch you in the gut in the end with a tiny burst of humanity.

The last stanza of "If we take" is seriously good:

But they've left us a bit of music
and a spiked show in the corner,
a jigger of scotch, a blue necktie,
a small volume of poems by rimbuaud,
a horse running as if the devil
were twisting his tail
over bluegrass and screaming,
and then,
love again
like a streetcar turning the corner
on time,
the city waiting,
the wine and the flowers,
the water walking across the lake
and summer and winter
and summer and summer
and winter again

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 09:25:27 AM »
I love Knut Hamsun's novels.  Whether a young, starving man chewing on wood chips for sustenance is a hoot, I am unsure.  Though his novel Pan is a little hoot-like, despite its inclusion of self-inflected gunshot wounds.  I have seen some translations of his novels, and, in particular, Hunger (not to be confused with Hungrr, the hunger-fighting cyclops), so bad as to ruin the book; though I can't comment on his fidelity to the Norwegian, I definitely recommend the readability of Sverre Lyngstad's translations.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 11:31:36 PM »
I thought Factotum was a pretty good film adaptation, Matt Dillon did a pretty good job.
I couldn't believe they cut the scene where bukowski drives the cab for his tryout for being a cab driver

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2009, 02:32:05 AM »
hey, Bukowski dudes:

Does it matter which order I watch Barfly and Factotum? Like, which takes place first in the main character's life?

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2009, 02:38:36 AM »
hey, Bukowski dudes:

Does it matter which order I watch Barfly and Factotum? Like, which takes place first in the main character's life?

thanks

personally, i don't think it matters, and I think they cover the same rough period.  Barfly is a better movie, I think.  I think it captures the sense of humor that's so important in his work much more effectively.  I remember being disappointed by the bandage scene in Factotum because it didn't play nearly as funny as it read. 

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2009, 03:35:50 AM »
If this pome ain't good then I'll eat my hat.



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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2009, 03:50:45 AM »
PFT hates him, too.

I don't like him either. I LOVE HIM!



     I second that.  I really like both Bukowski and Fante.  James Elroy and Jerry Stahl are also very good.   I'd really like to know exactly where Mike draws the line.  What book or poem set Mike against Bukowski so strongly.  Also,  Tom's characterization of AP Mike on twitter as "Bukowski caught in The Matrix" has me in tears every time I hear it.  I hope I'm not misquoting Tom, there.

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2009, 09:04:18 AM »
I love Bukowski!  Of course, I haven't read him in 15 years or so, but all my books are still on my shelf.  I should pick one up again and see if he holds up for me.  I have several recorded readings that I love love love, as well.
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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2009, 09:25:54 AM »
Hold on, the guy from the wet t-shirt scene in SUPERVAN was a writer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODHEvNKpAQ

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Re: Mike doesn't like Bukowski?
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2009, 10:36:47 AM »
  I'd really like to know exactly where Mike draws the line.  What book or poem set Mike against Bukowski so strongly.  Also,  Tom's characterization of AP Mike on twitter as "Bukowski caught in The Matrix" has me in tears every time I hear it.  I hope I'm not misquoting Tom, there.

I've read Post Office, Ham on Rye, and Women. Of the three, I'd give the nod to Ham on Rye for at least dealing directly with his horrible childhood. Post Office was just boring and monotonous, which may have been the point, but that didn't make it a good book. Women was the most disgusting of the bunch because it makes it clear that he's going to use his limited fame to sleep with as many women as possible and take his revenge for all the women who had previously rejected him (his descriptions of these encounters read like rape scenes). That's when I knew I had had enough of Bukowski.
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