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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #420 on: November 22, 2011, 08:59:51 AM »
Hmm might need a generous sponsor (WaWa?) or selling nachos door to door.

I think I could at least raise the $10K via Kickstarter. I know a lot of people who have given money to projects less worthwhile than this. I would do things like "If you give $1000 you can play in a game" and "For $750 you can be an assistant coach for the whole season" and "for $500 we will put your face somewhere on the uniform, most likely the ass."

The roster would go after the biggest freak show imaginable. Like I want a 5-foot fat guy center or some Manute Bol 7'9" inch guy. The more absurd of a player you are, the more I want you on the roster. I'm going straight up Moneyball with player management. Most of the guys in US minor league basketball don't want to be there -- they're hanging on in hopes to end up in Europe or the NBA. I want guys who WANT to play minor league basketball who can be molded into a true team who also have a freak show appeal.

It would also have a tie-in to comedy. I'd do something like an improv show where you call out a suggestion and the coach has to draw up a play somehow tied into that suggestion. Players who have also dabbled in stand-up/alternative comedy will also get a look.

I'd make it more than just some dumb comedy stunt though. I'd really like it to be something for a community to attach itself too. I'd really like to have fans do the most bizarre behavior possible yet still really family friendly.

I have a few ideas on where to locate this team. I'd want it to be near Philly or in North Jersey so I could actually watch the games of the team I own. But if I do a team in Philly, I'd look to do it in the suburbs so I could go after fans who live in the suburbs who have kids who don't want to drive into the city to watch the dumb Sixers. If I do get a Philly-based franchise, then I would possibly name the team the Fighting Hoagies and look to get Wawa or someone to tie in.

If enough FOTs kick in money, I will somehow incorporate The Best Show into the team. Maybe Ziegler on the back of everyone's jersey? Tom can coach anyway he wants? Newbridge Night?

I'm also thinking of looking to put a team in North Jersey, the Adirondacks (where I spend a lot of time) or Plymouth, Mass (where I used to work).

This might be a little out of my league -- the $10K isn't THAT daunting to try and via Kickstarter (and I think "comedy podcast tries to buy a minor league team" will get some publicity) but the operating costs beyond that are probably close to six figures. And I don't want to put my family's financial future at risk for some crazy stunt. But on the other hand, you only live once and what's the point of life unless you do some insane shit?

I can't believe I am seriously putting thought into owning a minor league basketball team.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #421 on: November 22, 2011, 10:27:54 AM »
What pledge amount gurantees frisbee dog half time shows? 

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #422 on: November 22, 2011, 10:55:04 AM »
What pledge amount gurantees frisbee dog half time shows?

There's a good chance this was going to happen anyways.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #423 on: November 22, 2011, 03:23:52 PM »
Do it! 10 grand sounds do-able. And maybe get some merch made, everyone is going to want a 'Insert team's name' cap, t-shirt and bottle opener!
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #424 on: November 23, 2011, 10:41:09 AM »
I have started a Facebook page for the Flyin' Hoagies of Philadelphia potential minor league basketball team!

Please join!

http://www.facebook.com/groups/304079232944177/members/#!/groups/304079232944177/
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #425 on: November 26, 2011, 06:28:16 AM »
Let's play ball! (fingers crossed)

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #426 on: November 26, 2011, 11:31:49 AM »
PHEW!

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #427 on: November 30, 2011, 02:43:47 PM »
I can't wait to get this season underway. I'm kinda bummed about the shortened season, but the positives are that it feels like the season sprung up overnight and I won't have to endure a 2 month preseason, plus there's just going to be that many more games on every night.

It'll be interesting to see who teams amnesty (especially my Sixers), but more than anything I just want to watch some non-college ball.

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« Reply #428 on: November 30, 2011, 04:54:33 PM »
I can't wait to get this season underway. I'm kinda bummed about the shortened season, but the positives are that it feels like the season sprung up overnight and I won't have to endure a 2 month preseason, plus there's just going to be that many more games on every night.

It'll be interesting to see who teams amnesty (especially my Sixers), but more than anything I just want to watch some non-college ball.

You, me and Kate Fagan might be the only Sixers fans left.  As for the amnesty, they've already rid themselves of the millstone around their neck by axing Hip-Hop, getting rid of anyone else is just excessive (Elton Brand can still kind of play).  Although is either Jason Kapono or Nocioni still on the books?  76ers should definitely drop those dudes.   

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« Reply #429 on: November 30, 2011, 08:18:43 PM »
I'm excited about the shortened season. I would have preferred a 50 game season without trying to squeeze games in.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #430 on: December 01, 2011, 10:04:58 AM »
I can't wait to get this season underway. I'm kinda bummed about the shortened season, but the positives are that it feels like the season sprung up overnight and I won't have to endure a 2 month preseason, plus there's just going to be that many more games on every night.

It'll be interesting to see who teams amnesty (especially my Sixers), but more than anything I just want to watch some non-college ball.

You, me and Kate Fagan might be the only Sixers fans left.  As for the amnesty, they've already rid themselves of the millstone around their neck by axing Hip-Hop, getting rid of anyone else is just excessive (Elton Brand can still kind of play).  Although is either Jason Kapono or Nocioni still on the books?  76ers should definitely drop those dudes.   

Hey! I'm a Sixers fan. It's just that the team has been so incredibly hatable the past few years. It isn't the players' fault. I'm really high on Thad/J'Rue/Turner and Iggy's STILL somehow underrated by the masses, particularly in Philly.

It's just that the old ownership group could not have ruined the team more than they did.

The Sixers were briefly the most popular team in Philly. Their finals run was Phillies-level awesome in how beloved they were that spring. People who weren't around back then think I'm lying when I tell them things like "A few thousand people celebrated the Game 1 win over the Lakers at Broad and Walnut" and "Everyone in the city pretty much had a Sixers flag".

That team wasn't built for a big run. AI's probably my favorite player ever (I think I watched him stepping over Tyrone Lue 19 times this week alone) but he was too mercurial to be a guy to bring a team to a few finals. And trying to fit the pieces around him required a skilled hand which Billy Hunter didn't have. And Larry Brown was the perfect coach for that run but he's a total flake (although my friend Becky thinks he's a silver fox).

But even with the team up-and-down, they still shouldn't have ended up like they have. The ownership group just piddled away all of their goodwill by making those games as aggravating as possible.

I went to the Lakers game last year with my cousin. The cheapest ticket was $30, before surcharges. I saw the Phillies a bunch of times last year for about half that price. I know the economics are different -- 20,000 seats with 40 games vs. 45,000 seats with 81 games -- but the Phillies sell out every game while the Sixers played to half capacity most nights. On top of the horrifying expense for a ticket, the parking was also $15, unless you wanted to park by the ballpark and walk about four miles in an unexposed, poorly lit parking lot in mid-January.

Hip Hop was also the worst mascot in US sports history. I'd love to see the focus group when he was created. "Oh, yeah, let's get an extreme bodybuilding rape-y rabbit who will hit about 75% of his trampoline dunks." And they had this literal monster when right across the street is the Philly Phanatic, who is even more beloved than Wawa.

Then their attempts at generating atmosphere just drove me and my friends away. The dumb sad voice after the away team's bucket. The piped in defense chants. Hip Hop with those loud gloves. They refused to allow any amount of silence during the game -- just not stop Jock Jam after Jock Jam, with requisite Wang Chung style graphics everywhere.

HOWEVER -- I'm back on board. The new owners are really receptive. One of their owners is constantly on Twitter talking with fans and asking for ideas. They already dumped Hip Hop, which is the best move they could have made, and there will be a GUARANTEED SELL OUT for "Burn Hip Hop in effigy" night. They cut ticket prices by half.

They just have to work the cap. If they get one star -- and it doesn't have to be a superstar, but just a legit scoring All-Star ala Monta Ellis -- and the team gets up to a 4 seed, that place is going to be rocking again.

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #431 on: December 01, 2011, 01:26:28 PM »
Yeah, Hip Hop was one of the worst mascots I can remember (you only get one "what the hell is that?" mascot per city), although I don't have the fondest memories of Big Shot, either...
It would be nice to have a Zeigler-type mascot. or a recreation of Barkley-era Mike Gminski.

it blows my mind how much most of the Philly fans I know dislike Iguodala, I guess it's people who only focus on offensive stats. We definitely need an A1 scorer, but it was never gonna be Iggy. But he's still the leader of the team and an elite defender. Watching Jrue develop a defensive style with him has been one of my favorite parts of the last season. I also think Turner's improvement in the last month of last season was impressive, and I can only hope working on his jumper all season will help.

I think the dropped ticket prices are genius, and I'm hoping to come back for a series of games in the spring, which will probably cost me slightly less than some nosebleed Clippers seats. Sure, they're a young team that needs a scorer that isn't Lou Williams, but they're still a load of fun to watch. Unfortunately, we're in a newly-stacked division, but we can't worry about that until April...

also, why does everyone love Monta Ellis so much? That's like the one dude I DON'T want to ever see in a Sixers jersey. (Well, maybe him and Amare).

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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #432 on: December 01, 2011, 01:57:57 PM »
I still say the Sixers could have made the Finals against the Lakers a bit more interesting if George Lynch hadn't broken his foot earlier in the playoffs.

My favorite memory of that team was actually from the year before, in the final game of the regular season when they were about to make their first trip to the playoffs. Iverson grabbed the house mic, asked everyone in the crowd to hang around for a minute, then gave an impromptu speech thanking everybody and pumping himself/the crowd/the team up. It was a really genuine moment of a guy embracing where he was and the potential of what he could be and I've always rooted for him since, even through sad later stories of using trashcans as bathrooms in casinos or seeking out the only TGIFriday's in Istanbul.

I enjoyed watching last year's team a ton and can't wait for them to start up again, especially in this bold, new, post-Hip Hop era. I'd guess that Trembling Eagle would have approved of Hip Hop's design, unless he disapproves of all mascots on a fundemental level because they interfere with the purity of competition, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.
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Re: The NBA Thread
« Reply #433 on: December 01, 2011, 02:52:22 PM »
it blows my mind how much most of the Philly fans I know dislike Iguodala, I guess it's people who only focus on offensive stats.

It sounds similar to how a lot of Bulls fans felt about Deng, at least before last season. Isn't really a guy who can carry a team by himself and probably gets paid too much but always busts his ass and does all the little things that aren't always reflected in the stat line.

also, why does everyone love Monta Ellis so much? That's like the one dude I DON'T want to ever see in a Sixers jersey. (Well, maybe him and Amare).

Monta's game has a level of skilled chaos that I find really appealing.

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« Reply #434 on: December 01, 2011, 03:01:41 PM »
I see Ellis as a more talented Lou Williams with even more of the offense routed through him. He takes a lot of questionable shots and when they hit, he looks like a genius. But if they're missing he looks like a psycho ballhog who'd rather attempt a running mid-range floater than driving or hitting the open man.

re: Hip Hop, the problem with NBA mascots is that they by and large stupid. The most successful one of all time is what, the Phoenix Gorilla? That bug-eyed dude the Warriors have?

I kinda of like the idea of a really aggressive, MMA-infatuated Hip Hop goading fans into fighting him... he could spray people in the face with Frank's Black Cherry Wishniak to pump them up!