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Jack from Arkansas

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2009, 06:26:15 PM »
Now that Malcolm Gladwell has taken over my brain, when I see something like Google Wave I wonder if I'm too old and dumb to get that this is a paradigm shift and that it's more important than I could possibly understand.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2009, 07:12:22 PM »
Now that Malcolm Gladwell has taken over my brain, when I see something like Google Wave I wonder if I'm too old and dumb to get that this is a paradigm shift and that it's more important than I could possibly understand.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2009, 08:05:45 PM »
Fredericks, I can't tell if that's funny or extremely funny. Did you intentionally copy that text?

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2009, 10:01:39 PM »
It was like that when I got there.
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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2009, 04:35:50 PM »
I don't think any of my invites have processed. What good is a networking tool with no network?

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2009, 05:01:15 PM »
So, do you think this is going to take off? I don't think anybody can overtake Facebook as king of the social networks. People who aren't tech savvy took a long time to warm up to Facebook and they aren't going to switch just because, and those are the people who put something like this over the edge. The same goes for mp3 players, there are a lot of players out there that are better or equal to the ipod but casual users aren't going to switch. Or browsers- Firefox and Chrome are awesome but people use IE because they are used to it. I don't see Wave making a big impact.... or splash if you will.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2009, 05:40:54 PM »
Wave isn't a social network.  It's basically persistent IM/chatrooms, with history, that you can attach stuff to, including little programs.  It's actually a real-time communications protocol; Google would have done better if they gave Wave and their implementation of it a different name.

I can see it being useful for people that have to collaborate on projects online.  I don't see it as being a compelling replacement for anything other than mailing documents back and forth, or ad-hoc wikis and things like Google Docs.  I've yet to see how they deal with simultaneous changes to items in a Wave or conflicts as you'll get over high-latency connections, such as satellite.  It seems like they think that making something "real time" (which is impossible in all circumstances) will magic away sync problems and conflicts.

Email is kind of antiquated.  There needs to be a way to keep email's openness without drowning the world in spam.   One way is to get rid of email's relative anonymity and easy forgeability, of course.  My favorite proposal is a requirement that a penny be put in escrow for one week for each message sent (perhaps to only apply to certain domains), payable to the recipient on demand, if the recipient finds the message annoying.  Thus making spam and other "marketing" no longer free of cost.  There should also be a unique message ID preserved in replies to make threading possible without relying on subject headers.

The problem is that Wave tries to fix too much.  90% of collaboration-by-email fuckups I've seen would go away if people could be bothered to use any number of online tools and would stop using fucking Office programs for everything.  There's plenty of room for technological improvement, but most computer problems are caused by people hanging on to old, bad ways of doing things.

I haven't read a single good review of Wave so far from people who've used it, and review technology for a living.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2009, 08:55:19 PM »
I'm pretty excited about wave. It's gotta couple of interesting things going for it. It's mostly open source, so who knows what direction it could go in. It's built on an existing IM protocol. They're trying to make it so you can embed just about anything in it, an idea as old as OpenDoc and OLE/COM, but actually working and useful this time. I think wave-based message boards could be cool.

I can't wait for email to die.

But yeah, I agree with you. I'm just more optimistic about its potential.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2009, 09:16:50 PM »
OK; one person finally 'waved' me and already there is a feature that i like.

I mistyped something and i could just edit it. that was awesome. the email isn't "gone"; it's just sitting there.

but i think yesno nailed it = it is a collaboration tool; wave is going to help me out, i think.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2009, 09:45:53 PM »
Oh, ok. I was told wrong about what Wave was. I probably won't use it right away or at all... don't really need to collabarate with people, but I can see the use for it.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2009, 11:44:17 AM »
It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2009, 09:31:07 PM »
It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.

Exactly, it'd be easy enough to edit the chat into a recap. It wouldn't have the style of Omar's recaps, but it'd be faster crowdsourced.

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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2009, 09:43:17 PM »
It could operate as a real-time F.O.T. wiki.

Exactly, it'd be easy enough to edit the chat into a recap. It wouldn't have the style of Omar's recaps, but it'd be faster crowdsourced.
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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2009, 10:10:29 PM »
Hey, didn't there used to be oh nevermind.
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Re: Google Wave
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2009, 10:46:10 PM »
Hey, didn't there used to be oh nevermind.


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