Author Topic: Best Show heard in public place in Fargo, ND  (Read 5209 times)

Phil

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Re: Best Show heard in public place in Fargo, ND
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 01:36:08 AM »
Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's. 

Did we read the same book? Klosterman was more or less a middle-of-the-road nerd in Fargo Rock City. I don't think he'd tell anyone it's an archetype for the ND 80s adolescence. Still, he manages a fair picture of what I saw just across the border in Minnesota. I just didn't really participate in it.

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Re: Best Show heard in public place in Fargo, ND
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 06:11:26 AM »
Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's. 

Did we read the same book? Klosterman was more or less a middle-of-the-road nerd in Fargo Rock City. I don't think he'd tell anyone it's an archetype for the ND 80s adolescence. Still, he manages a fair picture of what I saw just across the border in Minnesota. I just didn't really participate in it.


A little bit of hyperbole on my part to point out how lunk-headed I thought it was.  I was excited to read a book about small town, NoDak life/rock music, and I found it only tangentially dealt with anything I had an interest in, at all.  It was about a hundred miles away from any notion of punk rock that I knew.  Whether he'd tell anyone the he's created an archetype or not, I think that's sorta out of his hands. When the book is out, it's out, and those things take care of themselves. I this case, all 9 of us who care will have our own specific reactions, and in my case, I reacted to stupidity of it.
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colonel panic

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Re: Best Show heard in public place in Fargo, ND
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 11:03:47 AM »
North Dakota is great that way; everybody is one degree away from anybody else.

Lyle just emailed me because he is setting up a "Minot Punk Rock Reunion" for next summer.

It should be a blast.

Lyle is one stand-up dude.

I remember your band really well.  My brother-in-law is Lyle Snyder, of THUNDERCHICKEN fame. 

That's right, Thunderchicken. 

I've always hated Klosterman's work, going way, way back to his reviews of such "important" records as Alanis Morrisette's "Jagged Little Pill" and Stone Temple Pilots in the Dakota Student. He had, hands down, the WORST taste in music.  Ever. 

I also object to the tone of Fargo Rock City.  I've read it, and at times it was entertaining, but that was not an experience I could relate to at all.  Small town dudes, interested in cruising and blasting G'n'F'nR (or getting loaded and bird-doggin' chicks) was not my experience at all, and I got a little offended that this could be seen as a blanket statement on the entire experience of small town life in the 80's.  Mostly, I object to his writing. I think he's a bad writer. 

BUT BUT BUT there's a small "all for one, one for all" gene where I pull for anyone from my home state.  Conway Twitty.  Shadoe Stevens.  I'll add Klosterman to that list. 


Chuck called my old band (Seven O'clock Sucker) "the prototypical garage band" which could go either way coming from him. This was originally printed in 1995.

http://books.google.com/books?id=WPoz7KyfhUQC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=seven+o'clock+sucker+klosterman&source=bl&ots=FUFFCLg8fy&sig=AWSRVTERt5wixNapUiI6vMidCoM&hl=en&ei=2gzmSvarGNXYlAeV_NToCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20o'clock%20sucker%20klosterman&f=false

I'm just grateful that he got the band's name in print!

I think a lot of people were a little wary of Chuck because we rarely saw him at shows yet he would write about the scene as an insider. In hindsight, I appreciate that he documented what was going on. It was a really great time to be enjoying punk rock in Fargo. Hard to believe, I'm sure. Don't get me started about Minot, ND.

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Re: Best Show heard in public place in Fargo, ND
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 10:45:08 AM »
Anyone considering heading to the Red Raven for a future episode?

I am always free Tuesday evenings. You guys decide when and I'm there.
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