Author Topic: Isn't being alive weird?  (Read 9372 times)

fonpr

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2009, 11:22:01 PM »
If Josef doesn't get any guff for the five page dissertation of doom.  I'm going back to posting my edited chat collections.
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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2009, 06:26:50 AM »
I'm actually really surprised I got no guff myself! I think its because I gave the option up front to skip reading it. To set your minds at ease, I really am a happy person. In fact I am happy right now, and was when I wrote that. I enjoy being alive, and do not go through my day thinking these large doom and gloom thoughts, well, at least nowadays. I've battled depression obviously, but I won that a while ago. I just was thinking hard on that subject of "what is the point", and wanted to write it out.

One point I'd like to clarify is that I don't believe that there is some immediate doom coming, outside of the accepted possibilities of meteors, nuclear war and the like. Worse than that, I believe we very possibly will just keep on going in this weird disjointed way until over a span of time we become insane, or weakened, or mushy enough to just not be fit to survive. I do hope I'm wrong, if that is any consolation!

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2009, 10:31:52 AM »
1.  I'm actually really surprised I got no guff myself! I think its because I gave the option up front to skip reading it.

2. I just was thinking hard on that subject of "what is the point", and wanted to write it out.


1.  its because I gave the option up front to skip reading it All I need is a disclaimer?  Gotcha!

2.  I actually printed it out and read it in its entirety. .   "what is the point"

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2009, 08:40:39 PM »
You must be the change you wish to see in the world, Joe. I try to be increasingly vocal about these things as a writer/journalist/thinker.

I think that it is important to keep in mind that within one’s own more framework one may be acting toward some conception of the good while appearing to be “bad” in the eyes of others. You can only do what you know, and if some people are so out of touch where they don’t know what it’s like to pay rent or commute to work, then they cannot really faulted for not knowing what they don’t know. I am unsure of how many people are sociopaths, but I do not think it is as exuberant a number as you think.

By calling them “The Wealthy”, you could be unconsciously perpetuating the very dehumanization that allows “The Wealthy” to continue the mechanisms of exploitation from which they profit it, whether it be knowingly or unknowingly. This is one of the things that needs to be address. Care, compassion, and respect for all people. The problem isn’t the people who are “the wealthy” but the exploitation from which they profit.

I think disclosure and communication is important.

I also think one-person can, has, and will continue to change the world. The question is: in what way?

Qualia is weird! But I don’t think it’d be any less weird with an explanation. And what would an explanation enail? If someone believes in the Christian concept of God, that doesn’t explain why there is a God, why God acts as God does, or how to live one’s live.

People value whatever they value for whatever reasons they provide whether they provide a reason at all. So how's about we all choose to value the same thing and go from there. I say we value people. The question then is: what's best for people? There is no one answer because the world is in a constant state of flux. So what we need to do, me thinks, is emphasize critical thinking. This is what I see as one of the fundamental shortcomings of political action today: too much concern over being he or she who he right and not enough concern for simply helping others. Helping others might just entail asking others how they want to be helped.

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2009, 08:50:28 PM »
I've got leaves clogging up the gutters.  Come to think of it, this stove could use a lick and a promise.

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2009, 09:55:10 PM »
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/brain-universe.html

We're simply living in the brain of some huge giant.

fonpr

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2009, 10:10:09 PM »
"Like it or not, Florida seems dedicated to a 'live fast, die' way of doing things."

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2009, 03:32:38 AM »

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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2009, 11:22:00 AM »
So, I'm almost done with the book "Vital Lies, Simple Truths" and I think it has really helped me gain some knowledge about why humans accept certain things and deny others, according to the psychological theories presented in the book. It is a very interesting read about why we allow things into our consciousness, how we begin to think about things in certain ways and how sometimes we begin to block things out mentally.

For this discussion, though, I think the most interesting point that relates is Erving Goffman's concept of "frames." The idea is that we all understand what the acceptable behavior is when you're watching a movie, or in line at a grocery store, or waiting for the subway. It's like we all play a certain role and understand what the rules of the social situation are.  There are even "scripts" which are sequences of acts and responses that unfold within the frame, which is basically how things are supposed to happen when you buy an airline ticket, or are taking a class, or ordering food. "There are scripts for every frame and a frame for any and all events in which people interact with some degree of shared understanding." When a particular person's reality or world is shared, a frame is created. This idea is so surreal and existential to me but I love it.


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Re: Isn't being alive weird?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2009, 12:09:48 PM »
I have a feeling being dead will be weirder.
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