The wire, season 2

[Martin]

BUT also: no Homicide, no [insert other cop show of the 90-00's].

Is that a slam?  Either way, I don't think Homicide was popular enough, or influential enough, to take the blame for (m)any of the other endless cop shows of the last 17 years.

Clearly, if we're talking seasons, The Wire wins, but I'll take "Subway" or "Three Men and Adena" or "Crosetti" over any single episode of The Wire.

Not a slam.

For what it's worth, there's a consensus among critics and academics that two early 90's shows basically changed the rest of the decade when it comes to both cop shows and regular TV drama: Homicide and Twin Peaks.

[Sarah]

I always thought Hill Street Blues had a big influence on subsequent cop shows.  It was the first to feature story arcs, I believe, and there was other innovative stuff as well (more quirkiness for sure, more about the characters' personal lives, and so on).  Homicide started other things, of course, but I see the stamp of Hill Street Blues on a lot of shows that followed it.

[Martin]

Absolutely.

[Sarah]

Good.  I'm not crazy then.  At least not in this instance.

[buffcoat]

"Three Men and Adena" is probably one of the best hours of television that American broadcast networks have ever produced.






He became the main character in the worst seasons of the show, but I think Kyle Secor's performance is generally underrated in Homcide.  The just got weird with the character because I think they'd run out of places to take the show.

[Andy]

without Dragnet there would be no Hill Street Blues.

[eastgrandforks]

Have people gotten into Generation Kill?  I'm a huge Wire fan and thinking of watching it.

Generation Kill is great.

Double agreed. It takes The Wire's view of management (clueless, behind the curve, never accepting responsibility) and holds it up to the people in charge of a war.

[Sarah]

without Dragnet there would be no Hill Street Blues.

Without "Murder in the Rue Morgue," there would be no Dragnet.

[Andy]

Murder is the Rue Morgue is garbage. 

I've never heard of it, so it must be.

[Martin]

Murder = Rue Morgue = garbage

[Dan in Chicago]

Have people gotten into Generation Kill?  I'm a huge Wire fan and thinking of watching it.

Generation Kill is great.

Double agreed. It takes The Wire's view of management (clueless, behind the curve, never accepting responsibility) and holds it up to the people in charge of a war.

Generation Kill is amazing because it not only takes the management angle as mentioned to new heights, but the characters are really well developed and fleshed out over a mere 10 episode run. I was actually interested in all of their takes on the situation and their backgrounds even though you are thrown right into the show and it is over just as fast.

[Andy]

Fuck.

[dave from knoxville]

There are, I hear tell, Southern accents that are less pleasing to the ear.

Don't I know it!

[Bryan]

Without "Murder in the Rue Morgue," there would be no Dragnet.

Without "Murder in the Rue Morgue" there would be no Every Which Way But Loose.

[Sarah]

Ho ho.