Topic for the show: What Have I Become, Rock Edition

[namethebats]

Can we require that they have to experience their horrible solo project with the rest of the group there? I'm torn between Soundgarden listening to Chris Cornell's Timbaland collaboration and Public Enemy watching a "Flavor Of Love" marathon.

[Pat]

Jerry Only, Dez Cadena and Robo

[Bryan]

Dylan. Obviously.

Yeah.  If the young Bob Dylan could look forward 50 years and see himself a revered cultural institution, continuing to put out commercially and critically successful albums and touring to ecstatic, sold-out crowds around the world at age 69, he obviously woulda checked out a long time ago.

Yeah, I think Dylan's doing OK. He's turned into the guy he was pretending to be when he was starting out.

[dave from knoxville]

Think Townshend's pissed off that he's not dead?

Think Gram Parsons is pissed off because he is?

Also, how about Brett Michaels?

[Big Plastic Head]

Dylan. Obviously.

Yeah.  If the young Bob Dylan could look forward 50 years and see himself a revered cultural institution, continuing to put out commercially and critically successful albums and touring to ecstatic, sold-out crowds around the world at age 69, he obviously woulda checked out a long time ago.

Also, Sting?  How is Sting not exactly where he wanted to end up back when he pretended to like New Wave music?

Yes, Sting. This Sting...



would hate this Sting...



...whether he was pretending to like New Wave or not. Even though I think he's pleased as punch as to where he ended up, I don't think that was the plan. Same with your offering of Elvis Costello.

[mackro]

I always thought the first Police album got a bum rap (mainly because of the snooze-worthy "Roxanne", so understood.) While I'd take any Minutemen over any Police, there are some songs on Outlandos that sound prototypical of the more anthemic straight-forward Minutemen classics, especially the bass playing. So Sting gets a +1 there.

The other +1, which may count as a -1000 for a reason I will soon explain, is "Voices Inside My Head" from the Zenyatta Mondata album.  Why was this song not released as a hit single?  What an amazing Eno-esque dirty sparse funk groove!

Remember how Michael Jackson apparently told Freddie Mercury to put out "Another One Bites The Dust" as a single?  Where was Michael to advise Sting to put out "Voices Inside My Head" as a single? (Well, probably hangin' with Freddie Mercury.)

[fonpr]

Dear Hug and Nudie,

Check out the May 24th show here.  http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/TI

You have my word, you'll find it thought-provoking.

Sting and Dylan are advanced artists we don't get. Yet.

[Hugman 3.0]

Dylan. Obviously.

Yeah.  If the young Bob Dylan could look forward 50 years and see himself a revered cultural institution, continuing to put out commercially and critically successful albums and touring to ecstatic, sold-out crowds around the world at age 69, he obviously woulda checked out a long time ago.

Also, Sting?  How is Sting not exactly where he wanted to end up back when he pretended to like New Wave music?

Yea, that young crusading folk singer wouldn't have a problem at all with singing in an underwear ad and driving a hummer, you dunce.

[cavorting with nudists]

Actually, DUNCE, everything one can discern about the young Bob Dylan's motives would indicate that even when he was writing incendiary songs about what his conscience told him was wrong, he also wanted to make a lot of money and fuck a lot of hot chicks.  As for the Hummer I have no idea, but I don't recall him ever having written a single song about energy conservation.

He may have made some compromises along the way, but I am not convinced that, of all the competition, he's the one who's "obviously" sold out on his early vision of himself.  Dick.

[cavorting with nudists]

As for Elvis Costello:  Who the hell knows what's in these people's hearts?  I just have a hard time believing that the young "I won't stick around for my artistic decline" EC (with whom I identified, or thought I did, pretty much more than with any rock guy ever) believed he would end up a talk show host slobbering over the likes of James Fucking Taylor and married to the most boring, bogus faux-jazz chantoozey ever.  (and he threw over Cait O'Riordan for that bimbo???)

[dave from knoxville]

Could we tamp down the intentional unpleasantness? It's really possible to disagree with someone without calling them a "dick". It's OK just to think it to yourself, then make your point.

Of course, it's just a request; my opinion doesn't count anymore than anyone else's, but one of the great pluses of this forum is intelligent people engaged in passionate debate without giving into monosyllabic hate-baiting.

Thanks

[senorcorazon]

Could we tamp down the intentional unpleasantness? It's really possible to disagree with someone without calling them a "dick". It's OK just to think it to yourself, then make your point.

Actually Dave, I think as a PowerCaller your posts count as two. Thems the rules. And yes, it's a place to bring a box of wine and engage in classy discussions about intelligent topics like Jazzfarting.

Recentering topic -- I think Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth would both be pleased with their outcomes.   

[JonFromMaplewood]

I think Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth would both be pleased with their outcomes.   

With the exception of the failed DLR radio show, I think you are right. 

Gene Simmons too.

[cavorting with nudists]

Sorry.  It was late, and I'd had a few drinks, and being called a "dunce" set me off a bit.

but I Went Too Far, and Now It's Me Who's In the Wrong!

[gravy boat]

which rock musician would be most disappointed by what he/she has become?

Which one wouldn't be disappointed?  Youth is kinda programmed to defy elders, especially rock youth.

That is a good question. I think David Byrne would be really okay with the where and how of it.