So apparently the MSNBC boys feel burned (again) by Stewart

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It wasn't a big shark but Jon Stewart jumped one just now with the "everybody on Thr cable is the same" naiveté

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@ @littleleaf2 when did I say I loved Jon?

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Last comment then I'll drop this:Whatever the losses are Tuesday,will they be because Liberals were too LOUD or because they were too timid?

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@ @editorkvan don't you find it a little disingenuous to have a chorus singing "Go F Yourself" to Fox &then accuse others of going over-top?


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@ @anticjet and he preceded what he said at the end by saying it was serious and sincere. You can't have it both ways.


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@ @chuckb1999 but he doesn't distribute it equally. It's nonsensical to say so, or that each side deserves it equally -his claim today


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@ @doughtywench he did not hurt my feelings. I thought his message, on the eve of an election full of Tea Psychos, was terribly timed


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Matthews too:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/chris-matthews-snaps-at-arianna-huffington-for-suggesting-huffpo-is-better-than-everybody-else/

[Shaggy 2 Grote]

I'll take Stewart over Olbermann any day, but I have to agree with Glen Greenwald on this one:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/19/stewart

I have a fairly high wall separating my sense of humor from my politics, however.

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I actually agree with Olbermann's tweet #2 (counting from the bottom up)--JS bent over way backward to say "both sides do it"--and sort of agree with #1--This weekend of all weekends, people's efforts probably could have been better spent getting out the vote.  My answer to his #4 is "no," to #5, "too timid," and to #7, "Who cares, you're a big boy, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it."

Chris Matthews, on the other hand, is just plain nuts.

I hope my input has been helpful in resolving this matter.

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I'll take Stewart over Olbermann any day, but I have to agree with Glen Greenwald on this one:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/19/stewart

I have a fairly high wall separating my sense of humor from my politics, however.

I see the article the Salon one links to says, "On the right, Stewart rejected those who question Obama's citizenship and patriotism and, on the left, he knocked those who called President George W. Bush a war criminal."

When did Stewart directly address "George Bush: war criminal"?  Don't remember that at all.

[yesno]

I wouldn't say that both sides are equivalent, but I would say that all of the cable news channels are equivalent wastes of time.  Rather than watching Olbermann, you could be posting on a messageboard, for instance.

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I actually agree with Olbermann's tweet #2 (counting from the bottom up)--JS bent over way backward to say "both sides do it"--and sort of agree with #1--This weekend of all weekends, people's efforts probably could have been better spent getting out the vote.  My answer to his #4 is "no," to #5, "too timid," and to #7, "Who cares, you're a big boy, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it."

I didn't include Keith's vast retweets on the subject.   He definitely retweeted more virulent stuff about Sanity/Fear. 

I'm still having difficulty with Twitter terminology.

Stephen Colbert has Twatted on the Today Show

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I wouldn't say that both sides are equivalent, but I would say that all of the cable news channels are equivalent wastes of time.  Rather than watching Olbermann, you could be posting on a messageboard, for instance.

I rarely watch Olbermann, but I think there's a reason to Monday.   

[fonpr]

Ah, here's where we differ, Grote.
I have a fairly low wall separating my sense of humor from my politics, however

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I'll take Stewart over Olbermann any day, but I have to agree with Glen Greenwald on this one:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/19/stewart

I have a fairly high wall separating my sense of humor from my politics, however.

I see the article the Salon one links to says, "On the right, Stewart rejected those who question Obama's citizenship and patriotism and, on the left, he knocked those who called President George W. Bush a war criminal."

When did Stewart directly address "George Bush: war criminal"?  Don't remember that at all.

Wouldn't be the first time Greenwald made shit up. That guy seems like the kind of guy who will flip out over a slight and start playing for the other team someday. But I agree with him on this one. Stewart should have been organizing people to defeat the Republicans  instead of  scolding everybody for not playing nice.

[not that clay]

I think Olbermann is being a little vain here. Does he expect Stewart to say "cable news is horrible, except Maddow and Olbermann"? Kind of dilutes the message. Olbermann ought to be sure enough of himself to know if he's better than the other idiots or not.

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I wouldn't say that both sides are equivalent, but I would say that all of the cable news channels are equivalent wastes of time. 

THERE ya go.

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I think Olbermann is being a little vain here. Does he expect Stewart to say "cable news is horrible, except Maddow and Olbermann"? Kind of dilutes the message. Olbermann ought to be sure enough of himself to know if he's better than the other idiots or not.

Good point.  When Stewart took down Crossfire, he didn't just blast Tucker Carlson; Paul Begala was called a partisan hack as well.  Keith should have seen this coming on Saturday.  (Not to speak of the swipes months ago.)

[Chris L]

I don't know if Stewart really thinks his fan base consists of a vast swarth of centrists and moderates rather than lefties, but if that were the case he might have made it as a network talk show host.  He and Obama are similar in that they both seem to be willing to throw the groups that got them where they are under the bus to reach some toothless "consensus."

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I think Olbermann is being a little vain here

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I don't know if Stewart really thinks his fan base consists of a vast swarth of centrists and moderates rather than lefties, but if that were the case he might have made it as a network talk show host.  He and Obama are similar in that they both seem to be willing to throw the groups that got them where they are under the bus to reach some toothless "consensus."

That's about what Olbermann said!

In any case, Maddow surely separated herself from Keith.  She said, I have two things to say, a. I loved it and b. I loved it.