Glen Jones interviewed him over the phone on his interview show around the same time. Gene was eating like a candy bar or something the whole time and was talking about something completely unrelated, then all the sudden busted out with "And I'm eating a Hershey bar, and that's just life." Glen Jones was just like "Yeah, of course!" Something like that. (Completists, please dont' call me out for getting the food wrong, I got bigger fish to fry.)