Podcasts wouldn't have been able to take off like they did if Tom didn't lay the groundwork before the tools were laid down.
We've all heard it before, when Tom started the Best Show, no one wanted it. But he kept on truckin' like the guy who left the Temptations and recorded "Keep on Truckin'."
These podcasts based around long form conversations owe a big debt to Tom and Jon. Plain and simple.