Author Topic: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity  (Read 5093 times)

JpHasson

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Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« on: September 06, 2012, 02:35:16 AM »
The show is a unique, once in a life time tour de force of brilliance, even though i personally think that certain aspects have been diminished over the last 2 years, see my thread in the dear Tom forum for why i think that is, i still think it's excellent. Now i don't know the ins and outs of how WFMU is set up, i'm guessing they're getting tax breaks or money from the government because they're a non profit organization or something like that, but surely it can't be impossible to set something up so listeners can give a clump sum of money to Tom each year for doing the show? A kickstarter? It's just really jarring that the show raises such a huge amount of money each year and none of it goes to making Toms life a little easier, he should have the space to focus on the show, be creative and not have to do some god damn day job.

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 06:52:25 AM »
Pretty sure that WFMU wouldn't allow that. Nice idea, though.

Edit: "Nice" as in the thought behind it is nice. It's actually a horrible idea. A lot of people would just donate to the Kickstarter instead of the station.

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 07:57:16 AM »
a clump sum of money to Tom each year for doing the show?


Clump sum: a lump of chump change.
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JpHasson

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 08:21:02 AM »
Tom is allowed to make money, he could start selling a line of ridiculously expensive t-shirts that we all know the real purpose of *wink* *wink*.

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 10:43:20 AM »
Well, if he did that I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to use any of the station's resources, including air time, to promote them. DJs aren't allowed to discuss their own profit-making enterprises on the air. Plus it just seems like a low class move--Tom puts a lot of time into designing goodies for his fans, then uses them to entice donations to the station once a year.

I assume Tom is pretty conscious of his income needs and puts a lot of thought into ways he might monetize his talent. Maybe we should just leave that part of his affairs to him.
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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 12:06:09 PM »
Pretty sure that WFMU wouldn't allow that. Nice idea, though.

Edit: "Nice" as in the thought behind it is nice. It's actually a horrible idea. A lot of people would just donate to the Kickstarter instead of the station.

there should be explicit goals set so people know how much money WFMU needs to handle day to day bussiness, no WFMU, no best show. When those basic criteria have been met however, Scharpling can start his kickstarter and the rest of the money can go to him. the man has over 60000 twitter followers and loads of fans with loads of twitter followers, i doubt there would be a problem with spreading the word about the kickstarter. Also alot of his twitter followers are probably the most devoted fans anyway and the people most likely to donate large clumps of money.

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 12:19:16 PM »
Pretty sure that WFMU wouldn't allow that. Nice idea, though.

Edit: "Nice" as in the thought behind it is nice. It's actually a horrible idea. A lot of people would just donate to the Kickstarter instead of the station.

there should be explicit goals set so people know how much money WFMU needs to handle day to day bussiness, no WFMU, no best show. When those basic criteria have been met however, Scharpling can start his kickstarter and the rest of the money can go to him. the man has over 60000 twitter followers and loads of fans with loads of twitter followers, i doubt there would be a problem with spreading the word about the kickstarter. Also alot of his twitter followers are probably the most devoted fans anyway and the people most likely to donate large clumps of money.

Oh, okay. Never mind. This sounds like a great idea. I wonder why Tom hasn't tried this already.

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 09:03:39 PM »
Would this guy say he's "a helper" by nature?  Or by compulsion?

I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 01:04:43 AM »
The beauty of free-form radio is that you can do whatever the hell you want. And it's LIVE. Hence the beauty of the Best Show. There's a reason Tom has been doing this for free.

Having said that, go to iTunes and pay for the "Marc and Tom Show". It's well worth it.
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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 08:03:05 PM »
to the OP, im only offering this as a chance for you to maybe fuller understand what WFMU is.  WFMU is a non profit radio station, that is not affiliated with any larger institution (like NPR, PRI or a college or university) therefor WFMU is dependent 100% on listener donations.  once a year they hold a marathon to raise 80 to 90% of their operating budget.  the other 10 to 20% comes from admission to their record fair, small fundraisers and a rental property in the building that they own in Jersey City (at least that is how i understand it, from listening to Ken's State of the Station address over the years.)  as far as i know they do not receive any money from government sources, and the one time a few years ago when they did receive a small about of money from a payola settlement they used that money to put on a series of free shows in the NYC area.  WFMU has a handful of full-time employes and is relies on volunteers for a lot of their leg work.  i get the sense that no one on WFMU is there to make money or get famous.  WFMU may very well be the last 100% free form radio station in the country and is also completely in control of their own destiny.  to put it simply, WFMU should not exist, but it does, and may very well be the last great radio station in the US.   

having been a Best Show fan for many years, and a WFMU listener for even longer i get the sense that all the DJ's on the station are there because WFMU is something that they believe in and support 100%.  sure Tom may make small remarks here and there about the station, but i dont believe that he means them.  Tom religiously refuses to talk about his off mic jobs, and when praise is lavished on him about some of those things he seems sheepish to accept the praise.  at least thats how i hear it.

bottom line, if you really want to help Tom out, maybe you can buy one of the t-shirts on this web sight, or pick up one of the Tom and Jon greatest hits cd's. 

maybe im wrong on this but if you really want to support the Best Show make a donation to the station. 
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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 10:43:31 AM »
I just checked JpHasson's IP address, and it's the same one that Tom posts from!  Very clever, Mr. Scharpling.
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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 08:46:20 PM »
I just checked JpHasson's IP address, and it's the same one that Tom posts from!  Very clever, Mr. Scharpling.
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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 12:09:52 AM »
IP checks don't mean much. Millions of people show up under the same IP.


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Re: Tom not getting paid for the show = insanity
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 11:57:13 AM »
It's not me. I don't believe that the show has diminished over the last two years. Regarding money, I will figure things out and you'll be he first to know!

Thanks everyone for caring though. Seriously, it means a lot.

Tom.

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