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The Best Show on WFMU => Show Discussion => Topic started by: cokefantastic on November 29, 2006, 07:47:08 AM
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I think Tom was way too harsh.
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I voted in my favor.
Let's be friends, Tom. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
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I'm voting yes, partly out of solidarity with Tom and partly due to my disgust that she didn't defend Aero in the chocolate thread.
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what the hell happened?
I was in the middle of one of those "Ex-Roomate/ friend is getting divorced and needs you to give him therapy over IM" sessions when the shit went down.
Can anyone give a short summary? Was it a Tom Waits thing? Fight Club?
Man, I miss EVERYTHING.
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What time in the show was this call?
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she declared the show an "L" pretty early on and now Tom is shutting down the chat.
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Let me explain: I said it was shaping up to be an L due to the Tom Waits gasoline jockeys calling in every ten minutes. I say there should be a moratorium on all things Tom Waits on Tuesday nights.
In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a big Tom Waits fan. I absolutely love The Black Rider. I do believe, however, that everyone is entitled to their opinions, even opinions that don't align with my own. I'm not the type to badger someone if they express distaste for some of my favorite bands. My favorites don't appeal to everyone. I know this, and I accept this.
As a sign of solidarity with Tom Scharpling, I pledge to listen to nothing but The Volcano Suns, Superchunk, Portastatic, Guided by Voices, Robert Pollard, DC Snipers, and Dinosaur Jr on Tuesdays.
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Laurie should most definitely NOT be banned from the show. I loved the drama that Laurie incited. We were all due for an extended rant and temper tantrum from Tom and he brought it. Laurie, you are a wave maker extraordinaire. I wonder now if Tom really will shut the chat down. Also, did Tom really email Jason in the middle of the night asking him to shut it down? I'm on the edge of my seat. Can't wait for next week's show. Best show = best entertainment evah
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wow. I can see how that would be considered a treasonous statement. you should NEVER "call" a show before that clock hits 11pm (depending upon your time zone). I say this because:
1) It's bad mojo
2)There have been shows that were lackluster at the start and wound up coming back with a vengance later on
As a FOT who has irritated Tom on a few occassions via chat-postings, I would say, the best way to redeem yourself is not with WORDS but with ACTIONS. Maybe burn an FOT insignia in the end zone of the University of Florida football stadium, record an "I'm Sorry for Crossing You" apology song, or something that shows that you are still a true FOT, despite a slight misdemeanor.
good luck.
KTB
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This is too much for my fragile ego. I think I need a chat with Dr. Sbaitso.
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I just get caught up to speed on the 'geep' incident and there's already another conflict??
I have to withhold my vote till I hear the podcast.
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I still wish someone would explain Geep to me.
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I haven't caught up with the Geep thing either.
Maybe Tom should just personally boycott the chat. It's like half the reason nobody calls is because they want to "break through" and force Tom into acknowledging their cleverness on the Chat. The chat is an attractive way to curry validation from The Kid, because he either ignores you, laughs and announces your comment on-air, or becomes enraged at you and makes a big stink. All attention is positive attention. No GOMPs and no (possibly worse?) "Mike is telling me it's time to move on"'s. Maybe if Tom didn't look at it, then the FOTs could talk to each other, then plot good calls and chime in to the show for real.
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I haven't caught up with the Geep thing either.
Here are some Geeeeeeeeep particulars from the 11/14/06 show recap (http://www.recidivism.org/2006/11/recap_cultural_learnings_of_th.html):
After the music break, Tom mentions that Geeeep from the FOT Chat wants 7 laughs in the last 18 minutes. Tom demands that he call so he can hear the actual laughter while he's on hold. Sadly, Geeeeep failed to pick up the phone.
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Tom had the show in the crosshairs until Geeeep started shooting his mouth off like a hot shot. Tom decides that Sell Me On It is 3/6th topic, not a 5 or 6/6th topic. Therefore, Tom switches to the classic Overrated/Underrated for the final stretch. The phone go so quiet that Tom feels like he's at a sparsely attended Kevin Federline concert at Webster Hall. Tom thinks people should lay off K-Fed -- despite being terrible, he had a great run and "Popo Zau" is a good record.
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- Tristan thinks Kurt Russell is Underrated, while Geeep's laughter is Overrated. Tom will not do a show next week because he’s too emotionally scarred by Geep’s antics. Tom also hopes people are savoring the last days of the doomed chat, which will soon go the way of the ice truck and flip-top sodeys. Tom says that Geeep has ushered in a new era for The Best Show -- Before Geeeep (BG) and After Geeeep (AG). Tristan realizes that we're no longer living in a pre-Geeeep world.
Tom held true to his word. No show on 11/21.
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Did Laurie bow out or get banned? I see she's not on the userlist anymore.
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I voted No. As I said in another post, Tom and Laurie's rapport (which, if I used the actual term, was likely misspelled as the common phonetic "repoir") typically rules.
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FOTs -
This whole thing makes me sad. I'm very torn about the chat - on one hand it can be a place where FOTs can provide links and comments and assist the show. But on the other hand, there seems to be a very aggressive snarky quality to it of late that makes it impossible for me to read it while doing the show - whether it's people saying 'this bit is boring' ONE MINUTE IN (would someone please tell me when the S&W calls were ever about killing you in the first minute?!) or saying 'Pudge isn't funny tonight'.
The chat has become something that is more than a supplement to the show - it is now something closer to a live blog, where people are reviewing the show instantaneously. That's too much for me to handle while I'm doing the show. For those who complained about the Tom Waits calls last night, Where Were You? The best way to improve the show when bad callers are running wild is to CALL!!! Just typing how annoying the callers are tonight doesn't fix anything.
I love it when people write nice things and when people chip in jokes and comments that help elevate the program. But it is impossible for me to filter the good stuff out from the bad stuff. So, that said, I will no longer be visiting the chat any longer. This upsets me, but I have to let people do what they want. The show might pay a price for it - there will be a disconnect between me and you guys that I honestly appreciated. But the other options - closing down the chat, having someone moderate - are too lame and police-like and make things less fun. So the chat stays, but I go.
Tom.
PS - And of course Laurie isn't banned for life. If SPIKE can come back from HIS lifetime ban, I would think that Laurie might be able to swing a reprieve also. Come back!
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Honestly and quite seriously, I am 200% in favor in getting rid of the chat...for a year, at the very least.
I know that the FoT chat has been around in several incarnations for many years now, but Tom's post (as well as having to sift through my "classic" Best Show podcast archives to find a good rerun show for the feed) got me thinking about how different the calibre of callers used to be back when the chat was an "underground" thing (as dumb as that sounds) that not many people knew about. If you listen to the old archives, the quality of the callers is noticeably better.
I have to believe that by not having a live chatroom to serve as a distracting "second stage" to the real show, it will force many people who have something to contribute to the show to actually call in and talk about it, instead of just doing it only for the entertainment of people in the chatroom. There are so many insanely quick and witty people in the chat, it's really a shame that all that talent gets lost in the digital ether that is the FoT Chat.
(I just wish that I had a decent enough personality and less stagefright, otherwise I'd call in myself :( )
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Free Laurie!!!
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What happened to Laurie's account I was going to send her a message and receive some wisdom on Miami. Is the new thing that those banned from the show are banned from the board too?
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The FOT need to hold onto their women.
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The FOT need to hold onto their women.
word.
this is turning into a sausagefest. btw, anyone want to sword fight?
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PS - And of course Laurie isn't banned for life. If SPIKE can come back from HIS lifetime ban, I would think that Laurie might be able to swing a reprieve also. Come back!
Awesome.
I don't have an opinion on the chat, as, due to timing and other stuff, I never participated in it. I'll keep tuning in (or catching up via the podcast) regardless.
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I think moderators would be a good idea. Give them certain rules, so they can't just boot people, and give the chatters certain rules. Or maybe a kick system.
Or just take it away. You know, make the peons feel your wrath.
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I'm a podcast listener because I work Tuesday nights so I am not much better. But, I don't know any of the FOT's personally but I can tell when you call in, and it really bugs me when Tom says that somebody said something on the chat... You're having this dialouge with each other and forgetting that the show is a call-in show. It's really annoying when Tom sets up games and nobody calls in. Again, I don't call in either but at least I'm not listening to the program live. The chat is taking away from listeners who aren't "connected" with WFMU and The Best Show. It's a radio show not a club people.
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In a week of severely limited internet access, one can miss a lot, eh?
A chat is what the chatters make it. In a lot of cases, I think the chat gave Tom's core audience a chance to sit back and giggle as the show itself sank. That always pissed me off, although I'm terrified of phones in general and was rarely part of the solution.
I hate that it came to this. Laurie always charmed me silly.
~EmD
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The thing is, were it not for the chat, I would not listen to show live, which means calling wouldn't even be an option. Of course, I don't call as it is (well, I did once), but I may some day. Sans chat, there wouldn't be a chance of it.