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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: nec13 on June 03, 2009, 06:25:14 PM
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This is pretty self-explanatory. Who are some talented people from the world of entertainment, athletics, etc. that also happen to be absolute creeps? If you have ever had any personal encounters with such people, you can share them here.
I'll give a couple of names that immediately spring to mind:
Miles Davis
Phil Spector
Jay Reatard
Dave Kingman
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Mickey
Dolenz
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Kingman's a jerk?
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Kingman's a jerk?
He once sent a live rat to a female sportswriter. I suppose there are worse things that one could do, however.
But it does indicate certain "anti-social" tendencies.
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Jerry Lee Lewis has to be near the top of the list.
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Herb Tarlek
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Stanley Kubrick?
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Mike Tyson.
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Barry Bonds
Orson Welles
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Lou Reed
Ezra Pound
Stephen Dobyns
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Lou Reed is a jerk? I'm really sorry to hear that.
Ezra Pound really could just about top any list of talented jerks. Great poet, but an intellectual fascist. 'Nuff said.
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Lou Reed is a jerk? I'm really sorry to hear that.
Did you ever read that interview that he did with Lester Bangs c. 1975? I think it's in one of those Bangs anthologies that came out a few years ago. He comes across as a complete tool. Of course, the copious amount of drugs that he was ingesting probably affected his disposition. But if you read any recent interviews, he really hasn't changed all that much.
Come to think of it, Lester Bangs would probably belong on this list also.
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Jerry Lee Lewis has to be near the top of the list.
So is Jerry Lewis.
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David O. Russell
And btw, I think this one:
Phil Spector
may transcend the 'jerk' category.
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Jerry Lee Lewis has to be near the top of the list.
So is Jerry Lewis.
The thread is talented jerks.
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Jerry Lee Lewis has to be near the top of the list.
So is Jerry Lewis.
The thread is talented jerks.
Pardonnez-moi: Jerry Lewis aussi.
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Jay Reatard's a jerk?
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Johnny Ramone.
"Even John had to laugh... But he didn't. He just got madduh... and madduh... and madduh."
I have a feeling that Lou Reed was a crotchety old man even in the mid-60s. I don't hold it against him, though.
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90% of superstar athletes.
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Sacha Baron Cohen (probably)
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paul simon
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I have a feeling that Lou Reed was a crotchety old man even in the mid-60s. I don't hold it against him, though.
This is probably why I liked him from the very first time I heard him, when I was a crotchety fourteen-year-old.
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Mickey Mantle. The book Ball Four would confirm this.
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Here's a long excerpt from an interview Lou Reed did about a year back with a reporter from Knoxville's major independent newspaper, Metropulse. I can't decide if he's an ass or just really out-there funny.
The “Lou Reed is an asshole” theme is so well-worn, it’s practically a genre of rock journalism, with the classic and best forms of it being traced back to Lester Bangs in the ’70s. Bangs went to battle with Reed on several occasions—and his now-classic essays were as good as anything Reed recorded during that decade. Any similar articles today are really just imitations of the Bangs interviews, with Reed offering a parody of himself—or playing the role everyone expects him to.
I hate to write the same tired story that’s been written so many times before, but, unfortunately, the guy really doesn’t give me all that much to work with in the 10 minutes or so I talk to him on the phone.
It’s not that he’s a jerk, exactly—I’ve interviewed more uncooperative musicians—but it’s clear from the start that this is the last thing he wants to be doing. Like most things, rock journalism is a formula. When you get only 10 minutes to talk to someone on the phone, what else could it be? You want a few snappy quotes to weave through an article that hopefully will have a unifying theme to it.
Reed has absolutely no interest in helping you complete the formula, which makes him both admirable and a pain in the ass. Maybe he just can’t stomach having his quotes spun in all different directions, so he keeps giving interviewers the same story: I’m an asshole. Your questions are stupid. You’re an idiot. I’m Lou Reed. Why am I talking to you? Are we done?
Here’s the thing about this whole asshole schtick—I don’t really believe it. He’s certainly a grump, but Lou Reed is clearly not without sensitivity and humanity. Hudson River Wind Meditations was written as music for his own daily Tai Chi routine. In March, he joined David Byrne, Moby, and other musicians in New York to give a concert benefiting the Iraq Veterans Against the War. He’s written incredibly sensitive music, imagining himself in the shoes of not just drug addicts and transsexuals, but a poor Latino kid who dreams of being a drug dealer. His collaboration with his former bandmate John Cale, Songs for Drella, about their mentor Andy Warhol, is one of the most touching things ever recorded—the damn thing has brought me to tears several times. Plus, he dates Laurie Anderson, and it’s hard to imagine her putting up with his shit all the time, so the guy must have a softer side.
But he doesn’t really show much interest in talking about any of it.
When I ask him whether he thinks the anti-war benefit had any effect, he shoots back, “I have no idea. Why don’t you ask people?” I rephrase my question slightly, saying I was curious whether he thought it did any good. “Everybody’s curious. Does it do something? Who knows. But it’s better than doing nothing.”
Then he gives me a little more: “President Vaclav Havel [writer and former Czech Republic president] once told me that music can’t change anything. People change things. But music can change people and people change things.”
He says the show was aimed at communicating to their New York friends. But nothing else I ask seems to get him talking. Other questions get short, bland responses.
I tell him that the music he wrote years ago still has a great effect on people, but that material was written during a much different time in his life. I ask him whether his feelings about that music have changed much—whether it’s weird to be playing something live that he wrote when he was in his 20s. “Some of it’s 30 years old,” he says. “What do you think?”
Does he hear his influence in contemporary bands? “Every once in a while, I hear something and it sounds familiar. But my ideas have all been pretty simple.”
What does he think of his influence? “I don’t know. You were the one who asked the question.”
Well, do you feel ripped off or flattered? “I feel flattered.”
Has his approach to songwriting changed over the years? “The way I do things is pretty much the same. I don’t understand the process. I tried to figure it out and I can’t do it. The most I try to do is stay out of the way,” he says.
Why did he start doing Tai Chi? “I wanted a form of exercise that was aesthetically interesting and engaged the mind and taught self-defense,” he says.
Hudson River Wind Meditations was recorded using some new computer programs. “I made it for myself. I had people come over and meditate,” he says. Their responses prompted him to release it.
As my 10 minutes with Reed winds down, he gets impatient. “Are we done?” he asks. It’s not really a question, since he’s not asking my permission to go. It’s more like he’s just letting me know I’ve got nothing to remotely interest him and I’m wasting his time.
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I neglected to attribute; that interview was conducted by Joe Tarr
http://www.metropulse.com/staff/joe-tarr/
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Lou doesn't care anymore. Then again, he's 67 and he's venerated in music circles. Why should he?
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I believe Rainer posted some fine Lou Reed reminiscences on this board a while back.
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I always got the idea that Tim and Eric are jerks.
I guess they're talented. I think they're funny sometimes, but I know some people who are very gung-ho about them.
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Johnny Carson
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Johnny Carson
David Letterman has always had that rep as well.
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Johnny Carson
David Letterman has always had that rep as well.
Anybody mentioned Van Morrison yet?
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
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Suzan-Lori Parks.
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Steve Coogan
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John Lydon.
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John Lydon.
I agree that Lydon is a jerk. I don't agree that he is talented. I'm no fan of the Sex Pistols. And Jah Wobble and Keith Levene were the reason that PiL was as good as it was.
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
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W. R. "Bud" Thornton
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Apparently, and I didn't witness this in person, Mike Watt yells at his drummer while onstage.
This was heartbreaking to hear. :'(
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Apparently, and I didn't witness this in person, Mike Watt yells at his drummer while onstage.
This was heartbreaking to hear. :'(
i refuse to believe this and remain in denial. until i see it. then ill only like mike watt slightly less than now.
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
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i've got one for you: hugman.
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i've got one for you: hugman.
:'(
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
Wasn't there also a little matter of spousal abuse recently as well?
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i've got one for you: hugman.
:'(
hugman, you know i love you.
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when the dell ad comes on hulu i get really excited to see hugman. (it's dell, right? the usb ad).
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OJ / John Rocker / Michael Vick
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Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
I don't understand this one. How often does he show his untalented side? I know he did that shitty movie a few years ago, but for me CYE has certainly more than made up for that. Also, who says he's a jerk?
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How often does he show his untalented side?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVi3zs_S96M[/youtube]
Also, who says he's a jerk?
Oh, just everybody I've ever met that knows him personally. Plus, he personally fucked me out of a job once.
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jesus christ, why am i getting put under the microscope here ???
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
Wasn't there also a little matter of spousal abuse recently as well?
YEA, YOU SYCOPHANTIC MUTANTS!
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jesus christ, why am i getting put under the microscope here ???
I'm on your side, hugman.
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I'm pretty talented at being inadequate, and I'm a jerk.
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
Wasn't there also a little matter of spousal abuse recently as well?
YEA, YOU SYCOPHANTIC MUTANTS!
I'm not sure if you're being serious about this outrage. I was just wondering if you had a story behind calling Bill Murray a jerk. You do. Matter settled for me.
I either lose my ability to pick up on sarcasm when I get on this board or everyone here is ridiculously touchy.
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
Wasn't there also a little matter of spousal abuse recently as well?
YEA, YOU SYCOPHANTIC MUTANTS!
I'm not sure if you're being serious about this outrage. I was just wondering if you had a story behind calling Bill Murray a jerk. You do. Matter settled for me.
I either lose my ability to pick up on sarcasm when I get on this board or everyone here is ridiculously touchy.
How dare you!
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Yeah, I don't know.
I'm relatively new around here so I feel out of step with the rest of you.
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Bill Murray (uh-duh)
Larry David (just because he shows off his untalented side A LOT you cannot say the man is not talented)
Chipper Jones
Kanye West (although his talent is in a fog of crazy now)
You gotta justify classifying Bill Murray as a jerk. Every story I've ever heard about him has been that he's a super-cool and nice dude. The only time it sounds like he was acting jerky was that fight with Chevy Chase but it sounded like Chase started that one.
yea, i don't know, i've heard some stories. here's one: my friend used to tutor in upsate new york. he was driving out to the boonies to tutor this kid and got lost. as he's driving around looking for their house a car drives by in the other direction. bill murray is driving. my friend thinks, oh, that's cool and keeps looking for the place he's going. Next thing he knows Bill Murray aggressively pulls up beside him and starts screaming at him. He has apparently jumped to the conclusion that my friend was looking for his house.
There's also the caller who told the story about Mr. M calling his brother (?) an asshole. Twice. But maybe he was an asshole.
Personally, I've seen Sir Bill suffer an especially foolish crowd at a Q&A following Broken Flowers quite graciously. So this is how I repay him.
I knew I shouldn't'a posted in this negative thread.
Wasn't there also a little matter of spousal abuse recently as well?
YEA, YOU SYCOPHANTIC MUTANTS!
I'm not sure if you're being serious about this outrage. I was just wondering if you had a story behind calling Bill Murray a jerk. You do. Matter settled for me.
I either lose my ability to pick up on sarcasm when I get on this board or everyone here is ridiculously touchy.
How dare you!
How dare HE?! HOW DARE *YOU*, SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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I'm not going to become the all-time Larry David defender because to be honest I really don't care one way or the other. However, I'm not sure pointing out the trailer for a movie that hasn't been released yet is a fair way to say that he OFTEN shows his untalented side. As far as being a jerk, I'll just have to take your word on it. I'd like to imagine that he's a delightful jerk like on his show, though.
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Oh, I just thought of a good one. Alec Baldwin. He's pretty great in most things, but I'd bet dollars to donuts he's a pretty big asshole.
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This should win you a few donuts -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug
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Alec Baldwin is such a weird guy, you can't really consider him a jerk. Y'know what I mean?
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This should win you a few donuts
Yeah, I thought of that and it definitely supports the jerk theory. However, the bigger jerk in that situation was whoever leaked that tape to the press. Total dick move.
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David Lowery
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I'm not going to become the all-time Larry David defender because to be honest I really don't care one way or the other. However, I'm not sure pointing out the trailer for a movie that hasn't been released yet is a fair way to say that he OFTEN shows his untalented side. As far as being a jerk, I'll just have to take your word on it. I'd like to imagine that he's a delightful jerk like on his show, though.
YEA THAT'S WHY HIS WIFE LEFT HIM YOU DUNCE. YOU MUNCH. AND CYE IS PRETTY UNWATCHABLE ANYMORE YOU COMEDUMMY.
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when the dell ad comes on hulu i get really excited to see hugman. (it's dell, right? the usb ad).
IT'S INTEL, YOU TECHNOLODUNCE. YOU PIECE OF FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE.
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Craig T. Nelson. Not that he's desperately talented. I just wanted to mention him because of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NvuRGTS3H8
If you don't want to watch the old thing, go directly to 4:18.
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I'm not going to become the all-time Larry David defender because to be honest I really don't care one way or the other. However, I'm not sure pointing out the trailer for a movie that hasn't been released yet is a fair way to say that he OFTEN shows his untalented side. As far as being a jerk, I'll just have to take your word on it. I'd like to imagine that he's a delightful jerk like on his show, though.
YEA THAT'S WHY HIS WIFE LEFT HIM YOU DUNCE. YOU MUNCH. AND CYE IS PRETTY UNWATCHABLE ANYMORE YOU COMEDUMMY.
OK, I swear to god this is the last thing I'm going to post in this thread about Larry David, but this last season of CYE was one of my favorite seasons of the entire show. TO EACH HIS OWN!!!!
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David Lowery
I'm hesitant to ask (Telephone Free Landslide Victory is way up there on my list) but why?
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I'm not going to become the all-time Larry David defender because to be honest I really don't care one way or the other. However, I'm not sure pointing out the trailer for a movie that hasn't been released yet is a fair way to say that he OFTEN shows his untalented side. As far as being a jerk, I'll just have to take your word on it. I'd like to imagine that he's a delightful jerk like on his show, though.
YEA THAT'S WHY HIS WIFE LEFT HIM YOU DUNCE. YOU MUNCH. AND CYE IS PRETTY UNWATCHABLE ANYMORE YOU COMEDUMMY.
OK, I swear to god this is the last thing I'm going to post in this thread about Larry David, but this last season of CYE was one of my favorite seasons of the entire show. TO EACH HIS OWN!!!!
oh, so now women aren't entitled to their own opinions? very sexist, tacosmith, if that is your real name.
okay, i'm done too.
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Craig T. Nelson. Not that he's desperately talented.
I think it's quite obvious that he had a little too much to drink before that interview.
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Craig T. Nelson. Not that he's desperately talented. I just wanted to mention him because of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NvuRGTS3H8
If you don't want to watch the old thing, go directly to 4:18.
4:18 - "I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anyone help me out? No."
Huh? What about the welfare and food stamps you mentioned HALF A FUCKING SECOND AGO!
I'm beginning to see what kind of mind leads a man to say, "Sure, I'll do a Direct TV ad with the dead girl from Poltergeist. What's distasteful about that?"
Coach Ass.
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I'm not going to become the all-time Larry David defender because to be honest I really don't care one way or the other. However, I'm not sure pointing out the trailer for a movie that hasn't been released yet is a fair way to say that he OFTEN shows his untalented side. As far as being a jerk, I'll just have to take your word on it. I'd like to imagine that he's a delightful jerk like on his show, though.
YEA THAT'S WHY HIS WIFE LEFT HIM YOU DUNCE. YOU MUNCH. AND CYE IS PRETTY UNWATCHABLE ANYMORE YOU COMEDUMMY.
Hugman, I think your new avatar is affecting your mood.
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Coach Ass.
Very nice.
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For my 500th post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRiCW4YWBNA
(I don't really know that much about the guy, but it seems like he would qualify. And of course the song topic gives him extra points in the Jerk Olympics).
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Isearched Steve Marriott jerk and found this on the first page.
Steve
1991 Steve Marriott, English guitarist (Small Faces), dies in a fire at 44 ..... born in Waco, Texas, comedian, writer and actor, Parenthood, Jerk, Roxanne ...
www.brainyhistory.com/topics/s/steve.html - Cached - Similar pages
I didn't need to read any further.
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David Lowery
I'm hesitant to ask (Telephone Free Landslide Victory is way up there on my list) but why?
He was kind of a jerk to me at an autograph signing, but I have heard that he is a jerk elsewhere.
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I heard a 'he was really really mean to me' story about Bill Cosby recently...
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I heard a 'he was really really mean to me' story about Bill Cosby recently...
Just one?
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I heard a 'he was really really mean to me' story about Bill Cosby recently...
Wasn't there some sexual harassment stuff a while back, too?
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Wait, Craig T. Nelson is talented?
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Steve Albini.
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Steve Albini.
Really? When he was on the Jesse Thorpe broadcast, he seemed really funny.
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Steve Albini.
Really? When he was on the Jesse Thorpe broadcast, he seemed really funny.
I would imagine he has changed a lot since the Big Black days. If you read the Big Black section in "Our Band Could Be Your Life" Albini is painted as quite the loudmouth jerk and had a reputation for it. I haven't heard the TSYA show but I will have to give it a listen. I like the guy, myself, jerk or no jerk.
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Jay Reatard's a jerk?
No answer still?
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Jay Reatard's a jerk?
No answer still?
Well, there's this story:
http://paradeofflesh.blogspot.com/2008/08/little-too-reatarded.html (http://paradeofflesh.blogspot.com/2008/08/little-too-reatarded.html)
And this video:
[youtube]3zOA8i9UnEQ[/youtube]
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im at work so i cant see the video, but as for the blog post, there seem to be so many missing points that i refuse to take it seriously. not to mention, (im not bragging) i know (read: we're friends) my share of nationally recognized bands and have been forwarded articles about them to know whats true and whats not.
im not saying none of that stuff is true, im just saying circumstance (amongst a million other things) can paint a completely different picture.
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im at work so i cant see the video, but as for the blog post, there seem to be so many missing points that i refuse to take it seriously. not to mention, (im not bragging) i know (read: we're friends) my share of nationally recognized bands and have been forwarded articles about them to know whats true and whats not.
im not saying none of that stuff is true, im just saying circumstance (amongst a million other things) can paint a completely different picture.
Fair enough. I'm sorry for calling him a jerk. I was basing my claim on that video. But I don't know him personally, so I'll take your word for it.
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That's beyond a jerk move, that's a dick move. Punching a drunk kid who paid to see you and wants to dance around on stage is pretty low. Security (or his own friends) would have pulled him down within seconds if Jay hadn't cold-cocked the kid first. Ridiculous.
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im at work so i cant see the video, but as for the blog post, there seem to be so many missing points that i refuse to take it seriously. not to mention, (im not bragging) i know (read: we're friends) my share of nationally recognized bands and have been forwarded articles about them to know whats true and whats not.
im not saying none of that stuff is true, im just saying circumstance (amongst a million other things) can paint a completely different picture.
it's okay to be friends with jerks. I have plenty of friends that i LOVE that I would definitely say are JERKS. Every jerk on this list has legions of fans and friends.
Also, I have no opinion on whether not not Jay Reatard is a jerk.
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Wait, Craig T. Nelson is talented?
Craig T. Nelson. Not that he's desperately talented. . . .
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Wait, Craig T. Nelson is talented?
Craig T. Nelson. Not that he's desperately talented. . . .
So what does the "T." stand for then?
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He was in The Incredibles, and that was awesome.
His show, not so much.
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He is talentedly desperate, though! Wokka wokka wokka.
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I heard a 'he was really really mean to me' story about Bill Cosby recently...
Wasn't there some sexual harassment stuff a while back, too?
That beats the story I heard...