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Title: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: crumbum on June 25, 2009, 06:58:38 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/pop-star-michael-jackson-was-rushed-to-a-hospital-this-afternoon-by-los-angeles-fire-department-paramedics--capt-steve-ruda.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/pop-star-michael-jackson-was-rushed-to-a-hospital-this-afternoon-by-los-angeles-fire-department-paramedics--capt-steve-ruda.html)

just yesterday i watched this performance for the first time:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3mypd_michael-jackson-billie-jean-motown_music (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3mypd_michael-jackson-billie-jean-motown_music)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 25, 2009, 07:41:24 PM
"Never Say Goodbye" is one of the best songs ever. Seriously.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: steve davidson on June 25, 2009, 07:44:33 PM
i heard this guy touched kids.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: chrisfoll577 on June 25, 2009, 07:54:59 PM
Not a fan, but my condolences to his menagerie of zoo animals.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: steve davidson on June 25, 2009, 07:59:23 PM
their names are Prince and Paris, you racist.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: J. Garbage on June 25, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
God was like "You are creepy and I'm hanging up on you.  Boing!"
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Chad from Oregon on June 25, 2009, 08:25:20 PM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Kim Kelly on June 25, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dvrbyx.png)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: hugman on June 25, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
et tu, friends of tom forum?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fletcher munson on June 25, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
hoax
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: crumbum on June 25, 2009, 09:27:07 PM
OK, let's just forget I brought it up, shall we?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 25, 2009, 09:34:16 PM
hoax

The notion of him faking his own death is plausible. Him and Ken Lay.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: orator on June 25, 2009, 09:52:29 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dvrbyx.png)

 You're a horrible person.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Kim Kelly on June 25, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Too soon?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on June 25, 2009, 10:00:17 PM
Too soon?

Not too soon for CNN to flash an image of his still-warm corpse on the air.  With this dialogue over it:

Larry King to reporter: "Where did you get that image"
Reporter: "You'd have to ask my producer, Larry"
Larry King: "Nice investigative work."

Huh?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 25, 2009, 10:05:27 PM
I'm a little bummed about it.  I think he was really talented and had a totally sad, fucked-up life.  Of course, that doesn't mean he should have gotten away with child molestation, but still.  Hopefully Jack Chick comics are not a reflection of reality and a loving Jesus is hugging him right now.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: yesno on June 25, 2009, 10:13:48 PM
Michael Jackson may have done bad things out of craziness, but I don't think he was a bad person.  And I don't mean he wasn't "Bad," because that he was.

Off the Wall is one of the best pop albums ever.  

Farrah Fawcett got John Rittered.  
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on June 25, 2009, 10:20:41 PM
On another forum I'm on there's a thread about famous people dying on the same day as super-famous people (Sky Saxon from The Seeds -- that's "Pushin' Too Hard" on the Nuggets comp, for the less x-treme rock nerds among us -- died today too, getting eclipsed twice).  So far mentioned:

Darby Crash/John Lennon: December 7, 1980
Prokofiev/Stalin: March 5, 1953
Aldous Huxley/JFK: November 22, 1963
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: todd on June 25, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
Not a fan, but

heh
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: scratchbomb on June 25, 2009, 10:55:12 PM
The Wife just pointed me to the NY Times obit, which mentioned "vigils around the world", including a "on-glove bike ride" in Portland--without any seeming awareness of the douchey hipster irony behind this event.

I then denounced these bikers self-righteously, before remembering that I just spent the last four hours tweeting snotty/snarky/insensitive MJ-death-related posts. I'm a horrible human being.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: scotttsss on June 25, 2009, 11:32:16 PM
Not a fan, but

heh

a very appropriate caveat.. (yuck)

Hey I don't know what happened behind closed doors on the ranch..  was he an easy target or did he settle because he had to..  who knows..  ..but his music was amazing, his dancing out of this world, he entertains the hell out of me and most humans, so, yeah I'm really sad. 
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Kim Kelly on June 25, 2009, 11:33:49 PM
The Wife just pointed me to the NY Times obit, which mentioned "vigils around the world", including a "on-glove bike ride" in Portland--without any seeming awareness of the douchey hipster irony behind this event.

I then denounced these bikers self-righteously, before remembering that I just spent the last four hours tweeting snotty/snarky/insensitive MJ-death-related posts. I'm a horrible human being.

We're worse than that. We're ghouls.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Pastor Josh on June 26, 2009, 12:08:31 AM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.

Man, I did some serious defriending.  I'm not really a huge fan of his, but celebrating the death of anyone not suffering from a debilitating illness is wrong.  There's some real dicks on the internet.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Pastor Josh on June 26, 2009, 12:09:10 AM
I'm a little bummed about it.  I think he was really talented and had a totally sad, fucked-up life.  Of course, that doesn't mean he should have gotten away with child molestation, but still.  Hopefully Jack Chick comics are not a reflection of reality and a loving Jesus is hugging him right now.

If there is any such thing as grace, that poor man is at peace now.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Chris L on June 26, 2009, 12:22:46 AM
This song always gets me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atINVA6my08
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Chad from Oregon on June 26, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.

Man, I did some serious defriending.  I'm not really a huge fan of his, but celebrating the death of anyone not suffering from a debilitating illness is wrong.  There's some real dicks on the internet.

wait... so Pastor Josh is all for celebrating the death of folks with a debilitating disease??!

I'm sure that must have been a typo. I really, really hope that the sentence which followed was not a typo.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: jbissell on June 26, 2009, 12:49:07 AM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.

Man, I did some serious defriending.  I'm not really a huge fan of his, but celebrating the death of anyone not suffering from a debilitating illness is wrong.  There's some real dicks on the internet.

wait... so Pastor Josh is all for celebrating the death of folks with a debilitating disease??!

I'm sure that must have been a typo. I really, really hope that the sentence which followed was not a typo.

I'm guessing he meant it in the "good that they're no longer suffering" sense?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Pastor Josh on June 26, 2009, 01:00:31 AM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.

Man, I did some serious defriending.  I'm not really a huge fan of his, but celebrating the death of anyone not suffering from a debilitating illness is wrong.  There's some real dicks on the internet.

wait... so Pastor Josh is all for celebrating the death of folks with a debilitating disease??!

I'm sure that must have been a typo. I really, really hope that the sentence which followed was not a typo.

JBissell was right.  I'm currently spending several hours a day with a family whose patriarch has been struggling with Alzheimer's for years.  There's some bad shit eing said on Facebook and what not, rejoicing in the death of a man whose whole life has bene a struggle.  I don't think that's all right.  Being sad but relieved at my parishioner's death is perfectly normal, and I didn't want to suggest that being glad when someone who has been suffering has died is wrong.  But, no, the last sentence was no typo.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Regular Joe on June 26, 2009, 03:34:54 AM
Dear Pastor Josh,

How much like this guy are you? I am going to say right now I think the answer is "pretty close", but I am willing to accept if I'm wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTikg0z9jw

Sincerely,
Regular Joe
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: orangewhip on June 26, 2009, 05:05:32 AM
Two things that will be at Michael Jackson's funeral.

1.  A grave blanket.

2. A grave Blanket.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fletcher munson on June 26, 2009, 07:30:20 AM
I heard he demanded to be taken to the children's hospital, but went to KMart instead because he heard  little boys pants were half off.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: todd on June 26, 2009, 08:46:24 AM
I heard he demanded to be taken to the children's hospital, but went to KMart instead because he heard  little boys pants were half off.

yo man you heard the one about the chicken and the road??????????????????
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Julie on June 26, 2009, 10:36:51 AM
Is Julie from Cincinnati bored yet?

I hadn't realized just how many unfunny ghouls I had on my Facebook feed until this afternoon.

I am bored with hearing people say flattering things about him. He was a monster.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Chris L on June 26, 2009, 10:51:31 AM
Are we taking bets on how many times FMU will play that "Show Respect to Michael Jackson" song this week?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Mark in Helsinki on June 26, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
I guess someone is shopping for a coffin.






Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: J. Garbage on June 26, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/06/michael-jackson-is-gone-but-the-sad-facts-remain.html
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Andy on June 26, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
I love this thread.

Also, I haven't been around much lately. Pastor Josh is the troll of a regular FOT, right?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: buffcoat on June 26, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
I love this thread.

Also, I haven't been around much lately. Pastor Josh is the troll of a regular FOT, right?


You wish!




Confession: I have one alter ego/trolling ID.  I go by "Groteface Killah."
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 26, 2009, 06:37:37 PM
Me and CFK saw the Victory Tour, here in Knoxville. There's a video news story about it here.

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=54529&catid=2 (http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=54529&catid=2)

And since everything in life is a closed loop, and it's all about me, it's critical that I explain that I was only two degrees away from the King of Pop; at the end of the video piece, they interview Bo Roberts, the promoter of the shows. I lived in the home of Mr. Roberts (and his gracious wife S___, and sons Sam, A___, and M___,) for four months during the summer of 1981. Bo's son Sam was a close friend of mine in college. He had his skull split in the spring of 1981 by an incoming throw from right field. Sam was trying to stretch a routine single into a double in intramural softball, a sport we took very very seriously. (In fact, we participated in an intramural organization called Sons of Sam. We used to enter the Sons of Sam in offbeat sports tournaments we knew absolutely nothing about, like water polo and tug of war, in an attempt to score points in the intramural all-sports trophy. It actually worked, because oftentimes no one else would sign up in our division.)

The seeing-eye throw hit Sam squarely in the ear on a fly, shredding his ear drum, and creating a large S-shaped crack in his skull that started just above the ear and snaked its way up to the top center of his head. He had emergency brain surgery to relieve pressure on his brain. At that time he wore a full Fleet Foxes-style beard. After they shaved his head to drill the holes, he looked like the famous professional wrestler Ivan Koloff, the "Russian Bear"http://www.johnsmainevent.com/images/ivan_8zxn.jpg (http://www.johnsmainevent.com/images/ivan_8zxn.jpg). Sam was very proud of this resemblance, and would occasionally stop and flex, Hans and Frans style.

Bo Roberts was the President of the 1982 World's Fair Corporation. http://web.knoxnews.com/special/fair25/ (http://web.knoxnews.com/special/fair25/) That's the one where they built the Sunsphere, which Bart Simpson and his buddies visited years after it had ended, and discovered that it had been converted into a wig warehouse. http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/silence/archives/sunsphere.jpg (http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/silence/archives/sunsphere.jpg) (Not really. It's still here; you can book it for business meetings if you're in town.)

In the late spring and summer of 1981 Bo and S___ were due to be traveling, negotiating last minute details for the fair. Since they were scheduled to be out of town so frequently, they asked me to move into the house, mainly to help Sam up and down the steep steps to the boys' loft, but also generally to help out with simple tasks and keep an eye on him. So I did that, and at the end of the summer, with Sam back on his feet, in addition to the 4 months free rent and free food, S___ gave each of us guitars, mine as a sort of reward, Sam so we could play together, at which point we joined the previously discussed Vessel of Knoxville. http://www.myspace.com/vesselknoxville1980s (http://www.myspace.com/vesselknoxville1980s) In fact, if you look at the picture at that site, Sam is the handsome guy leaning against the post on the far left. I am the ugly troll with the Blego haircut hunkered down as much as possible behind the structure.

In the summer of 1982, we played a few times at a small open pavilion at the World's Fair, including a very brief stint (less than two minutes) for Imelda Marcos. I will save that story for later (or never, as, after mentioning her name, there's not much more to tell.) Two years later Mr. Roberts was booking the Victory Tour concerts.

So that's my Michael Jackson story; I knew Bo Roberts very well, and he met the Jacksons before the Victory Tour concerts in Knoxville, so we were clearly close as thieves.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 26, 2009, 08:48:51 PM
I heard he demanded to be taken to the children's hospital, but went to KMart instead because he heard  little boys pants were half off.

yo man you heard the one about the chicken and the road??????????????????

Hey, I saw Michael Jackson and your girlfriend at the Home Depot! 99 cents!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Sploops on June 26, 2009, 09:17:26 PM
I heard he demanded to be taken to the children's hospital, but went to KMart instead because he heard  little boys pants were half off.

yo man you heard the one about the chicken and the road??????????????????

Hey, I saw Michael Jackson and your girlfriend at the Home Depot! 99 cents!!
I heard he died from food poisoning.  Yeah, apparently he ate a nine year old weiner.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nec13 on June 26, 2009, 10:49:38 PM
While Michael Jackson may have been an eccentric fellow, he was still a damn good and extremely talented entertainer. It is true that many of his problems were self-inflicted. But I can look past his imperfections and still acknowledge and enjoy his talents, much in the same way I can for James Brown or Marvin Gaye.

BTW, whoever said Off The Wall is one of the greatest pop albums ever made was spot on. IMO, it's one of the greatest albums ever made in any genre.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: scotttsss on June 26, 2009, 11:55:01 PM
Again, come on.  What a talent.  He wasn't like us, he went batshit.  You want to forget all he did that was good?  Every time a first grade kid comes home from school talking about Jefferson, do we mock them and talk about him boning his slaves?  Louis Ferdinand Celine was also a shit bird, but are we going to toss his books in the fire? 

Is it silly and boring to hear people moaning about Jackson as if they were huge fans...  yeah but come on..  was it any sillier when the flags were lowered for Regan for a fucking month, or when the last pope died and the entire media acted like we were a catholic nation?  (pedophilia anyone?) 

just saying. 


 
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nec13 on June 27, 2009, 01:09:35 AM
Like I said, he brought many problems upon himself. However, by most accounts, he was surrounded by a lot of people who didn't have his best interests at heart. And he had to deal with an abusive father and the incessant hounding of the media. For all of the fame and fortune he achieved, he led a pretty sad existence. He was never comfortable being himself.

Ultimately, the guy was an enormous talent, the likes of which we may never see again.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: daveB from Oakland on June 27, 2009, 01:12:45 AM


http://listeningroom.lohudblogs.com/2009/06/26/brian-may-michael-jackson-and-freddie-mercury-recorded-forgotten-tracks/
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fletcher munson on June 27, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
I heard he demanded to be taken to the children's hospital, but went to KMart instead because he heard  little boys pants were half off.

yo man you heard the one about the chicken and the road??????????????????

Michael Jackson's body will not be cremated or buried. It will be recycled into grocery bags.
That way he can continue to be white, plastic and dangerous for kids to play with.

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: dave from knoxville on June 27, 2009, 12:31:36 PM
Wait til you hear the jokes I have planned when you're dead. Oh wait, I guess you won't hear them. Only your family.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nec13 on June 27, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
Wait til you hear the jokes I have planned when you're dead. Oh wait, I guess you won't hear them. Only your family.

Lighten up, Dave. All of these jokes are HI-LARIOUS! Can't. Stop. Laughing.

I mean it's not like this guy was a human being anyway. Right?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fletcher munson on June 28, 2009, 10:21:23 AM
Wait til you hear the jokes I have planned when you're dead. Oh wait, I guess you won't hear them. Only your family.

Aw, c'mon, Dave.  Don't say bad shit about me when I'm dead.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fletcher munson on June 28, 2009, 10:30:59 AM
Wait til you hear the jokes I have planned when you're dead. Oh wait, I guess you won't hear them. Only your family.

Lighten up, Dave. All of these jokes are HI-LARIOUS! Can't. Stop. Laughing.

I mean it's not like this guy was a human being anyway. Right?

Oh, man.  I just had a chance to review those jokes, and you're right.  They're not funny. 
Just the hateful internet's banal outpouring of the ugly underbelly of celebrity glorification, I guess.

The End.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: mostlymeat on July 02, 2009, 11:34:57 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/06/michael-jackson-is-gone-but-the-sad-facts-remain.html

For some reason I have a hard time finishing articles that start with :

"I was on the beach in Nantucket when I was told that Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter was trying to reach me"
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: iAmBaronVonTito on July 02, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
i believe dave has a point.  i speak up merely because he's one of the good guys and has a legitimate point. 
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nec13 on July 02, 2009, 03:07:24 PM
Dave is 100% OTM. The Michael Jackson jokes are in poor taste and most aren't all that funny. If it was one of your family members that was the butt of these jokes, think of how you'd feel.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: jbissell on July 02, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Dave is 100% OTM. The Michael Jackson jokes are in poor taste and most aren't all that funny. If it was one of your family members that was the butt of these jokes, think of how you'd feel.

I guess for me it's more that he's been such a punchline for so many years now that most of the jokes stopped being funny years ago.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Stupornaut on July 03, 2009, 12:15:24 AM
I think the biggest eyeroll I got out of all of the internet reaction was one page's comments section where a guy piped in with something to the effect of "eh, he meant nothing to me. I'll really be crushed when Jello Biafra goes."
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: dave from knoxville on July 03, 2009, 10:23:08 AM
I think the biggest eyeroll I got out of all of the internet reaction was one page's comments section where a guy piped in with something to the effect of "eh, he meant nothing to me. I'll really be crushed when Jello Biafra goes."

Now, this does ring with me to some extent. For years I was afraid that I would cry if told that Neil Young had died. Now, after Greendale and Fork in the Road, they might be tears of relief.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: yesno on July 03, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
If Jello Biafra dies I'm afraid it might be because I killed him for sucking.