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Title: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on October 28, 2009, 03:11:39 PM
Who's voting in this? NOT ME.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on October 28, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
Me.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: gravy boat on October 28, 2009, 03:57:55 PM
[climbs soapbox]

Mr. Whitener,
With all due respect, I think you should vote even if you can't, understandably, bring yourself to vote for Corzine or Christie.  There are plenty of third-party governor candidates -- voting for one of them counts as more of a protest against the major parties than simply not voting.  Furthermore, I assume there are other slots being decided in your county. Plus there's a state-wide yes-no vote on a bond issuance to preserve wetlands/open-space.

Vote! Always vote.    

[descends soapbox]
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: David on October 28, 2009, 04:20:35 PM
I, as always, will be voting for the lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: fonpr on October 28, 2009, 05:11:18 PM
I, as always, will be voting for the lesser of two evils.

I think Keith should vote for the evil of two lessers.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on October 29, 2009, 01:01:50 AM
[climbs soapbox]

Mr. Whitener,
With all due respect, I think you should vote even if you can't, understandably, bring yourself to vote for Corzine or Christie.  There are plenty of third-party governor candidates

[descends soapbox]


The big third party candidate is Daggett. He doesn't look good either! I will look at some of the other ones.

I, as always, will be voting for the lesser of two evils.

This doesn't seem right to me because what's implicit in your vote is an affirmation of Corzine in spite of him not doing a good job.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on October 29, 2009, 01:41:54 AM
I have looked at the independents. They do not look good to me. Perhaps a write in vote for Corey Booker?

I am unaware of the other hibbity on the ballot, so I will report back tomorrow.

As an aside, I find the idea of education reform with no discussion of pedagogy fascinating in a, "WHAT?!" sort of way.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Christina on October 29, 2009, 08:30:08 AM
I have looked at the independents. They do not look good to me. Perhaps a write in vote for Corey Booker?

I am unaware of the other hibbity on the ballot, so I will report back tomorrow.

As an aside, I find the idea of education reform with no discussion of pedagogy fascinating in a, "WHAT?!" sort of way.

There were times when I used to not vote, but now I always do, basically for the 3rd party candidate that seems the least looney tunes. I take the long view - I've had it with the two party system and figure that eventually something good will emerge that will crack it...
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: yesno on October 29, 2009, 10:49:25 AM
Impeach Florio
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on November 01, 2009, 01:29:17 PM
Wanted to share this comment from a news article:
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight. Jonnie will play Robin Hood if reelected. The middle and upper income families will pay more taxes that he'll waste on giveaway programs accomplishing nothing. The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2009/11/analysis_of_gov_jon_corzine_re.html
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on November 01, 2009, 01:39:37 PM
Blargh, I just found out that the next governor is going to be appointing supreme court judges for the state. Voting for Corzine would feel like such a compromise of my values.

This is his endorsement from the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/opinion/18sun3.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&ref=opinion&adxnnlx=1255874413-IVhr/TemTMLL1j/dS/1zAQ

That is such a luke warm endorsement.

THANKS A LOT NEW JERSEY
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Pat K on November 02, 2009, 04:02:40 PM
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight.

Yeah, stick to your own kind, Corzine!


The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

Yeah, make those impoverished 9-year-olds pay for their own lunches already! It's like, either work for the food you're gonna eat, or go back to Soviet Russia, amirite?


Wait, whuuuuuuuuuut?
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on November 02, 2009, 08:40:01 PM
Who's voting in this? NOT ME.
Hi Keith Whitener, I hope you stayed home and didn't vote.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 02, 2009, 08:52:21 PM
I would vote for Chris Christie. It's just not right to make fun of fat people.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on November 02, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
Who's voting in this? NOT ME.
Hi Keith Whitener, I hope you stayed home and didn't vote.

Why do you say that? Tomorrow is the day of the vote.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 03, 2009, 05:57:08 AM
Wanted to share this comment from a news article:
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight. Jonnie will play Robin Hood if reelected. The middle and upper income families will pay more taxes that he'll waste on giveaway programs accomplishing nothing. The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2009/11/analysis_of_gov_jon_corzine_re.html

Welcome to the FOT forums, Ms. Rand!!!
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Pat K on November 03, 2009, 12:48:48 PM
I would vote for Chris Christie. It's just not right to make fun of fat people.

He's the guy who's seen Bruce Springsteen like 500 times, right? He sounds like he'd be a pretty dedicated public servant.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: yesno on November 03, 2009, 01:08:20 PM
I heard he threw his weight around to get floor seats.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: David on November 03, 2009, 01:52:28 PM
Wanted to share this comment from a news article:
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight. Jonnie will play Robin Hood if reelected. The middle and upper income families will pay more taxes that he'll waste on giveaway programs accomplishing nothing. The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2009/11/analysis_of_gov_jon_corzine_re.html

Welcome to the FOT forums, Ms. Rand!!!

The similarities between Mr. Whitener (if that is your real name (I'm kidding, I know it isn't)) and Ayn Rand are startling when i start to think about it.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 03, 2009, 02:27:58 PM
Wanted to share this comment from a news article:
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight. Jonnie will play Robin Hood if reelected. The middle and upper income families will pay more taxes that he'll waste on giveaway programs accomplishing nothing. The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2009/11/analysis_of_gov_jon_corzine_re.html

Welcome to the FOT forums, Ms. Rand!!!

The similarities between Mr. Whitener (if that is your real name (I'm kidding, I know it isn't)) and Ayn Rand are startling when i start to think about it.

They're both from Russia anyway. As to the comment, it was from an article, but in this case the article wasn't written by Mr. Whitener (prolific writer that he is). Also the comment wasn't from the author but from worange46, who is in all likelihood a 46 year old white man from West Orange.

The most remarkable thing about the comments accompanying the article, though, are that they haven't yet been overrun by birther c***flooding.

So, get out and vote today, New Jersey.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 03, 2009, 02:29:10 PM
I heard he threw his weight around to get floor seats.

http://instantrimshot.com/ (http://instantrimshot.com/)
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 03, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
I wasn't going to weigh on on this because I agree that Corzine is pretty lame, but it would pretty much be a nightmare if Christie became governor, at least for me.  And for anyone going to a public university in NJ which means you, Keith Whitener!!!  So vote!!!!!1!!!!1
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: scratchbomb on November 03, 2009, 03:43:28 PM
Chris Christie as governor would be disastrous for NJ's natural resources. I'm sure he would decimate the state's large stockpile of Funyuns.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on November 03, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
Chris Christie would be an awful governor! I hope he loses. Anyway, I did a write in for Cory Booker.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Jack from Arkansas on November 03, 2009, 05:35:02 PM
Hi Keith Whitener,  Based on the blog you quoted, I assume you are a nutty neo-conservative libertarian dude.  I was making a bad joke.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: cutout on November 03, 2009, 10:57:57 PM
Sounds like Christie won -

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/chris_christie_is_elected_nj_g.html


(I heard his legal counsel during the election was by the offices of Häagen and Dazs)
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Keith Whitener on November 03, 2009, 11:57:39 PM
Hi Keith Whitener,  Based on the blog you quoted, I assume you are a nutty neo-conservative libertarian dude.  I was making a bad joke.

Ha. I realized in retrospect that it came off that way.

Rutgers had Michael Sandel speak. I was disappointed because I expected him to do something exciting, but he ostensibly  did the first day of his intro the ethics course. He was asking us Utilitarian themed questioning, standard stuff that's on wikipedia. The last question was, "Would you torture someone if you knew 100% you'd get the information out of them to stop a bomb from exploding and destroying a city." With a big grin on my face, I had my hand raised, eager to say, "No, you let the bomb go off and use it as a justification to start a war. A false flag operation can be used if necessary." I guess they didn't call on me because I looked too excited to speak. Even though I don't know much about neo-conservatism, I imagine I could do a convincing John Bolton impersonation.

Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Stan on November 04, 2009, 12:11:02 AM
Hi Keith Whitener,  Based on the blog you quoted, I assume you are a nutty neo-conservative libertarian dude.  I was making a bad joke.

Ha. I realized in retrospect that it came off that way.

Rutgers had Michael Sandel speak. I was disappointed because I expected him to do something exciting, but he ostensibly  did the first day of his intro the ethics course. He was asking us Utilitarian themed questioning, standard stuff that's on wikipedia. The last question was, "Would you torture someone if you knew 100% you'd get the information out of them to stop a bomb from exploding and destroying a city." With a big grin on my face, I had my hand raised, eager to say, "No, you let the bomb go off and use it as a justification to start a war. A false flag operation can be used if necessary." I guess they didn't call on me because I looked too excited to speak. Even though I don't know much about neo-conservatism, I imagine I could do a convincing John Bolton impersonation.



 Good job on your vote, Ben. You helped Governor Chris Creosote win. Fuck you.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: buffcoat on November 04, 2009, 12:30:02 AM
Let the Funyunning of New Jersey begin!
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 04, 2009, 06:03:48 AM
Let the Funyunning of New Jersey begin!

Thank God, those 9-year old moochers start to go hungry today!
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: wwwes on November 04, 2009, 07:11:06 AM
Would it be too much to ask Corzine to continue running ads calling Chris Christie fat? He's got money.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Pat K on November 04, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
I heard Christie's planning on installing Outlaw Pete as NJ Attorney General.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 04, 2009, 10:53:36 AM
Welp, it was nice having a job and health care for the past few years.  At least I'll have more time for writing.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 04, 2009, 10:54:33 AM
Oh, and by the way, Stan, that's Governor-Elect Chris Creosote.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Stan on November 04, 2009, 11:06:07 AM
Oh, and by the way, Stan, that's Governor-Elect Chris Creosote.

 Thanks Lamont, for providing my first laugh of the day. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: gravy boat on November 04, 2009, 11:24:27 AM
Welp, it was nice having a job and health care for the past few years.  At least I'll have more time for writing.

Mr. Grote, you are forgetting that GE Creosote lobbied to get the University of Phoenix accredited in New Jersey.  So he is obviously a big supporter of higher education.  I mean, that's where Shaq graduated from!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Phoenix


 

Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Shaggy 2 Grote on November 04, 2009, 01:17:02 PM
Ew brother.  Next thing you know I'll be directing the annual fall musical at the DeVry Institute.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: JonFromMaplewood on November 04, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
I heard Christie's planning on installing Outlaw Pete as NJ Attorney General.

I heard the Burger King.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: dave from knoxville on November 05, 2009, 05:17:03 PM
Ew brother.  Next thing you know I'll be directing the annual fall musical at the DeVry Institute.

Provided you can spell, there are openings at South College.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Fido on November 05, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Wanted to share this comment from a news article:
The picture in this story says it all. Corzine with a group of students with not a white student in sight. Jonnie will play Robin Hood if reelected. The middle and upper income families will pay more taxes that he'll waste on giveaway programs accomplishing nothing. The story also comments that 60% of kids in a school qualify for "free" lunches. Maybe it's free to them, but us taxpayers are paying for the lunches. And these "free" lunches create a mindset in these kids that as they get older, the Government will provide more "freebies" such as food stamps, free housing, free health care, 2 years of unemployment so you don't nee to work, etc. Not the correct mindset for a productive USA or NJ.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2009/11/analysis_of_gov_jon_corzine_re.html

By this logic, we should never do anything for anyone who needs anything, ever. Because if we do, they might get used to it and become lazy parisitic leeches. We already have enough of those people, and you and I both know who they are. We really shouldn't ever give anything to anyone needy, because they are needy, they're by definition undeserving and probably lazy. Let's just let them die.

This is the attitude I sense pulsing through this country right now, more than I've ever sensed it before. Eight years of Bush couldn't budge me, but this attitude could get me to move to Canada or Norway. I think this attitude leads toward the mentality of any number of Latin American countries.
Title: Re: NJ Election
Post by: Steve of Bloomington on November 05, 2009, 08:22:27 PM
Things were so much better when it was all kill or be killed, rip out your enemies' hearts and eat them, all that sort of thing.