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FOT Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Trembling Eagle on January 15, 2010, 02:30:05 PM
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I just found out Comedy and Everything Else guys had a member leave
(stopped listening awhile back)
but not only them al ot of the 2 and 3 ppl team podcasts I've listened to end up falling apart overtime
I think its because one person ends up doing all the editing and uploading
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I just started listening. I downloaded a bunch of random episodes with guests I liked, and one of the first ones I listened to had Stephanie saying something that didn't seem like a joke about how Jimmy and Todd really worked on being friends and were committed to their relationship. It made me sad that they seemed to have a falling out or something.
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I just started listening. I downloaded a bunch of random episodes with guests I liked, and one of the first ones I listened to had Stephanie saying something that didn't seem like a joke about how Jimmy and Todd really worked on being friends and were committed to their relationship. It made me sad that they seemed to have a falling out or something.
good luck getting through the rest of those episodes
It became un-listenable to me after awhile
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I just listened to the most recent episode with Doug Benson. You'd think someone who claims to be able to talk politics, such as Mr. Dore, would know a damn thing about politics. It was like listening to some poorly-informed stoners talk about things they half-heard on Olbermann. Oh, wait--that's exactly what it was.
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I just listened to the most recent episode with Doug Benson. You'd think someone who claims to be able to talk politics, such as Mr. Dore, would know a damn thing about politics. It was like listening to some poorly-informed stoners talk about things they half-heard on Olbermann. Oh, wait--that's exactly what it was.
I'm on his side on issues and I couldn't stand listening to them
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Their political talk was way better during the election. Since Todd left I think it's been spotty. Any episode with Patton or PFT is good and the recent one with Marc Maron was pretty good too.
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TE, yeah, they haven't said anything politically I disagree with. I'm a little miffed about something he said in this one about flu vaccines causing some condition. It's true there was a link in 1976 between the swine flu vaccine and Guilliame-Berret (?) syndrome, but not knowing that's not the case anymore means you aren't qualified to talk about the issue.
Not to mention that they talked about the Gallgher thing again, as they did last time Doug Benson was one, and they repeated some of their conversation pretty much word for word.
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TE, yeah, they haven't said anything politically I disagree with. I'm a little miffed about something he said in this one about flu vaccines causing some condition. It's true there was a link in 1976 between the swine flu vaccine and Guilliame-Berret (?) syndrome, but not knowing that's not the case anymore means you aren't qualified to talk about the issue.
Not to mention that they talked about the Gallgher thing again, as they did last time Doug Benson was one, and they repeated some of their conversation pretty much word for word.
not even a direct link
it's that same kind of empty headiness they are on the conservatives about.
Bill Mahr's real anti medicine, pro quackery the same way.
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I have to admit, it bugged me when Dore said in a recent episode that there's no room for debate about the existence of God. It reminded me of some of my close-minded colleagues who say things like there are no such things as atheists because no one can really not believe in God. I'm probably not going to be a regular listener for much loner.
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I have to admit, it bugged me when Dore said in a recent episode that there's no room for debate about the existence of God. It reminded me of some of my close-minded colleagues who say things like there are no such things as atheists because no one can really not believe in God. I'm probably not going to be a regular listener for much loner.
exactly
I had to stop before I started to hate them.
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I stopped listening maybe half a year ago, in favor of the Adam Carolla podcast. I never thought that their semi-political format worked all that well. I mean sure some comedians are well informed and can handle these discussions, like a Patton Oswalt, but you just can't expect it to work every time with all the guests. I ended up thinking that more than half of the episodes fell into that weird uninformed and kind of boring area. When they talked about comedy it was great, they just strayed from it way too much, which I guess was what they were trying to do.
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Dangero, I cannot condone the Corolla thin (I'll keep you in prayer), but you're spot-on with the rest of it. People like Patton can have in-depth and very insightful conversations on any topic. His commentary on the Leno thing was especially interesting. But the regulars sound like the liberal version of my church folks who only get news from having Fox on in the background.
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Don't get me wrong, Pastor Josh, I don't agree with Carolla often at all. I just found in the end that listening to his opinions, though they were not mine at all, was more interesting and enlightening than just listening to some of Comedy and Everything Else's guests repeat whatever the current liberal thing is. I think though Carolla has some opinions that are just completely unacceptable, over all he can back most of them up with some interesting points, and I just felt like I was getting a lot more out of the podcast.
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Sorry. I was being kind of a jerk. My only exposure to him was the episode he interviewed Bob Odenkirk. As I said at the time, it was like hearing Bugs Bunny interview Evelyn Waugh. Both great in their way, but with absolutely nothing connecting them. It seemed like towards the end Bob was just mocking him.
TE, sorry for high-jacking your topic.
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I haven't actually heard that one but I think I get what you mean. In the end I think it is just that a show with two separate talents lasting as long as it did, is fairly impressive. I think they too may have realized that they were kind of losing steam and that led to the issue.
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Carolla has a talent for sure
It's a lot like Todd Glass for me in that they are guys that can walk you through, clearly, their way of thinking. Even if you don't agree they get you there. It sounds easy but I think so much of art and entertainment is just trying to communicate.
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feed://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/xml/jdore.xml
Tighter, funnier, better produced.
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So did they explain why Todd left? If not I just assume that he split to concentrate on road work and comedy. Sad to see him go, though.
As for the podcast I think it's pretty good. The discussions are smart and when they talk about the comedy world it's awesome.
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So did they explain why Todd left? If not I just assume that he split to concentrate on road work and comedy. Sad to see him go, though.
As for the podcast I think it's pretty good. The discussions are smart and when they talk about the comedy world it's awesome.
Todd left to go on tour with David Cross and quit the podcast when he got back, I can't help but think that Cross got in his ear about playing second banana to Dore but that's just my theory. I'll agree with fonpr that Jimmy Dore's radio show is better for politics than the C&EE podcast. He does it with David Feldman who wrote for pre-insanity Dennis Miller as well as pre-insanity Bill Maher.
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Something odd must have happened, based on the way it's referred to/stepped around both on CAEE and other podcasts, like last weeks CDR Radio.
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Something odd must have happened, based on the way it's referred to/stepped around both on CAEE and other podcasts, like last weeks CDR Radio.
Padre I directed a post to you over on the links forum
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If David Cross offered me a spot on his tour, which I believe was his first one in years, and than told me that I could do better than what I was currently doing, I would definitely think about what he was saying. I mean Jimmy Dore is no slouch but if David Cross made Todd any kind of offer for a project or anything like that I would have a hard time seeing any comedian not taking it.
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Todd Glass is a great guy. We went to say hi and good show after his set in Bloomington, and he talked to us for quite a bit and even did the Tom Jones impression he used to do on Comedy and Everything Else. All this after he had had to deal with a corporate Christmas Party contingent in the crowd that kept talking loudly and generally pissing him off during the show.
I have to admit, though, I am kind of getting interviews-with-comedians'ed out and need a break from it. Doug Benson shows up on pretty much every comedy related podcast. I don't have anything against him, but I really need a break from Doug Benson.
I do still like the comedy podcasts with the comedy - Comedy Death Ray and such. And I would listen to a Pod F. Tompcast for sure.
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Todd Glass is a great guy. We went to say hi and good show after his set in Bloomington, and he talked to us for quite a bit and even did the Tom Jones impression he used to do on Comedy and Everything Else. All this after he had had to deal with a corporate Christmas Party contingent in the crowd that kept talking loudly and generally pissing him off during the show.
My wife and I met Todd, Jimmy, and Steph after their show at Bridgetown last year after a show, they were really nice and when we got outside they asked us for a ride so we drove them across town and then they invited us in to a party at the hotel so we went and understandably felt out of place because we were the only ones there that hadn't performed that night so Steph hung out with us until we left which was shortly after we got there. I think they were burning sage or something in the back of my van.
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Been bouncing around the idea of a Seattle-area comedy podcast before I started regularly listening to the Best Show (though after hearing the S&W CD collections.) I do want to make this happen, even if it has to be solo.. but it's important to have someone else to tell you when your ideas are great or, more importantly, when they're not.
As far as the relationship thing, I have only three tenets
a) no sex, especially during the podcast
b) I'm a taken man, sorry.
c) But I will treat you to great teriyaki at Mr. & Mrs. Wok next door. The Mango Cashew chicken (or tofu) is to die for.
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Something odd must have happened, based on the way it's referred to/stepped around both on CAEE and other podcasts, like last weeks CDR Radio.
About a month or six weeks ago on CAEE Jimmy mentioned in passing that one reason Todd gave was that he felt he sounded stupid on the podcast. I can't remember how he phrased it, but I got the impression that perhaps Todd thought that the political stuff was taking over the show and that he couldn't hold his own compared to Jimmy in that arena. Which would be unfortunate if true, cause as you guys have said, Dore can get pretty shrill and extreme in his views (the 9/11 stuff -- 'just asking the question', the Swine flu discussions). Todd on the other hand didn't have such strongly formed opinions but seemed more thoughtful sometimes. In any case it's a shame cause they worked well together.
Like you guys I prefer the actual comedy talk but the usual suspects can get boring. The episode with David Spade surprised me. His stories about his early career were revealing and self-deprecating in a way I totally didn't expect.
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Something odd must have happened, based on the way it's referred to/stepped around both on CAEE and other podcasts, like last weeks CDR Radio.
About a month or six weeks ago on CAEE Jimmy mentioned in passing that one reason Todd gave was that he felt he sounded stupid on the podcast. I can't remember how he phrased it, but I got the impression that perhaps Todd thought that the political stuff was taking over the show and that he couldn't hold his own compared to Jimmy in that arena. Which would be unfortunate if true, cause as you guys have said, Dore can get pretty shrill and extreme in his views (the 9/11 stuff -- 'just asking the question', the Swine flu discussions). Todd on the other hand didn't have such strongly formed opinions but seemed more thoughtful sometimes. In any case it's a shame cause they worked well together.
Like you guys I prefer the actual comedy talk but the usual suspects can get boring. The episode with David Spade surprised me. His stories about his early career were revealing and self-deprecating in a way I totally didn't expect.
Yes! The Spade interview was fantastic. His story about revisiting his old hometown in a leather jacket and a stack of cash killed me. The Jeaneane Garofallo two-parter was a great listen too if you like the political stuff.
I actually thought that Todd DID hold his own in the discussions. Politics weren't his first love but he was a bright guy and he had things to say. Plus his comedy bits were hilarious. His Tom Jones always made me laugh. The three of them had a great dynamic and I'm sad to see him gone.
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I always thought that the great thing about Todd's political insights was that he never really watched all of the news or read all of the articles that Jimmy and Steph did but when they would breifly explain something that they saw or read to him he would arrive at the same conclusion that they did and word it better off the cuff than they did when they'd prepared to talk about it.
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You can hear Todd Glass on anything, any podcast, and just get a feeling for how great of a speaker he can be. He can turn any mundane story into something you genuinely want to hear about. He's just got a real gift for giving things meaning.
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I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.
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I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.
I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
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forgive the naivity, but what's appeal with Adam Carolla?
I've probably missed his renaissance period because I only remember him being the side personality to Dr. Drew on KROQ in the 90s, and then hosting some stuff on TV that was alright, then demanding some friends of mine vacate their prime spot at a place in a restaurant because he was Adam Carolla.
again, i'm probably missing something, honestly.
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While he is kind of an asshole and I don't really agree with him often when he gets to politics, Adam Carolla's radio show and podcast were really great for their interviews and guests. He just knows how to lean back and let people say what they are trying to say instead of crowding the guest to try to get them to say what he wants. Other than Tom, he is one of the only radio hosts who has consistently enjoyable and insightful interviews.
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Dan, that's interesting, because my (admittedly brief) experiences of him have been just the opposite. He tries to drive the conversation and wants to force his guests into shtick.
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I can understand that for some guests, but when he really has high quality guests on he does pretty good at shutting his yap. The episodes with Francis Ford Coppola was particularly interesting, and he never seems to rush the comedians he has on, which best show friend Patton Oswalt has complimented him on. As with most shows I can hardly say that it is 100% and there are definitely episodes where you are completely right, Pastor Josh, but when he does it well I think he is one of the best. Just my opinion though.
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I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.
Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)
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I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.
Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)
It depends what you are looking for. Some of my favorites over the past few years have been Jordan Jesse Go, which I know Tom isn't a fan of but still have to say it, You Look Nice Today, which features John Hodgman, I Love Movies with Doug Benson, who's guests overlap quite a bit with the Best Show's, and Comedy Death Ray Radio, which has all of your favorite LA comedians.
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I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.
Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)
I can't get enough of Marc Maron's WTF podcast (even if the most recent episode was a dud).
Pastor Josh, I think you're characterization of Jimmy Dore as a regurgitating, uninformed pothead is unfair. The most recent podcast has some really good commentary comparing and contrasting Obama and FDR. Like anyone, he's not always on the mark, but he's anything but lazy (which you kind of infer) or misinformed. And the Patton Oswalt episode from last year is absolutely inspiring. (And just to do the thing that I feel like people hate: I know Jimmy. He's a good dude).
God bless,
Hugman
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Hugman, I don't mean to say he's not a great or funny guy. However, I've listened to a good dozen episodes of the show, and each and every time he talked politics he came across as poorly informed and not that sharp of a thinker. Maybe it was just a bad dozen or so episodes, but I think I gave him enough of a chance. When he isn't talking politics, he's funny, but there just wasn't enough of that to make the show worthwhile for me.
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I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.
Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)
Dan In Chicago - I think he means good Carolla podcasts specifically but I love all the shows you suggested. My favorite guests are Dave Dameshek, Harlin Williams, or Dana Gould... Those 3 have been on a few times each and I just think that they bounce off of Adam really well.
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I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.
I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
I definitely didn't think I was going to be laughing the entire time (and I was right) and I agree with you the show isn't really going for that. I also agree with you that with a good guest it's not bad, but as far as on par with TSOYA... Jimmy Dore is not even close to Jesse Thorn. Jesse prepares for interviews, where as at times it seems Jimmy isn't even paying attention. He's just looking through his mac for a song to play out of the garage band library. I don't hate Jimmy Dore, in fact, I stuck with the show for a long time and still occasionally listen , I just find that if I have my ipod loaded up with 20 different shows CAEE is almost always the last one I listen to.
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I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.
I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
I definitely didn't think I was going to be laughing the entire time (and I was right) and I agree with you the show isn't really going for that. I also agree with you that with a good guest it's not bad, but as far as on par with TSOYA... Jimmy Dore is not even close to Jesse Thorn. Jesse prepares for interviews, where as at times it seems Jimmy isn't even paying attention. He's just looking through his mac for a song to play out of the garage band library. I don't hate Jimmy Dore, in fact, I stuck with the show for a long time and still occasionally listen , I just find that if I have my ipod loaded up with 20 different shows CAEE is almost always the last one I listen to.
To be fair almost my experiences with the show were still with Todd Glass and when I think back on it I think that he is probably the one who brought that element to the table. Jimmy Dore is a funny and capable guy but he just isn't the orator Glass is.
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I really like Todd Glass on almost everything I hear him on, but he's definitely hypersensitive to where it distracts me. The same goes for Marc Maron, whose self-deprication goes on to the point where I feel uncomfortable for the host/other guests.
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You know, I usually find that annoying, but I find it endearing when Marc Maron does it. I do not find WTF to be really funny, but I can't get enough of it. It is a really great show.
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The same goes for Marc Maron, whose self-deprication goes on to the point where I feel uncomfortable got the host/other guests.
For what this is worth (nothing), I agree with all sides of the Marc Maron issue.He's simultaneously pathetic and nobly honest about it, acknowledging the way we all are in some way pathetic. He's super paranoid yet he gives a pretty good interview, once he's determined the interviewee is his friend and not One of Them. But I still keep listening.
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The same goes for Marc Maron, whose self-deprication goes on to the point where I feel uncomfortable got the host/other guests.
For what this is worth (nothing), I agree with all sides of the Marc Maron issue.He's simultaneously pathetic and nobly honest about it, acknowledging the way we all are in some way pathetic. He's super paranoid yet he gives a pretty good interview, once he's determined the interviewee is his friend and not One of Them. But I still keep listening.
I'd never heard of Maron before the WTF podcast but I love the show and I've since checked out his standup and discovered that I love it.
There's a line from his standup that sums up cutout's quote, where he says "Some of you will leave tonight thinking 'That guy is hilarious' and others will leave thinking 'I hope he's OK.'" I kinda think both, actually. Some of his neuroses and hypochondria hit uncomfortably close to home, so I can't really judge.
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I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.
Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)
I can't get enough of Marc Maron's WTF podcast (even if the most recent episode was a dud).
Pastor Josh, I think you're characterization of Jimmy Dore as a regurgitating, uninformed pothead is unfair. The most recent podcast has some really good commentary comparing and contrasting Obama and FDR. Like anyone, he's not always on the mark, but he's anything but lazy (which you kind of infer) or misinformed. And the Patton Oswalt episode from last year is absolutely inspiring. (And just to do the thing that I feel like people hate: I know Jimmy. He's a good dude).
God bless,
Hugman
Agreed on Marc Maron, agreed on Jimmy Dore. When WTF is a dud it's still never terrible, I think it's one of the best podcasts out there, even when he's doing a commentary from his car he makes it sound professional.
I think Jimmy Dore over-talks his points at times but he's usually on the better side of the issues and a lot of times he is well informed about the subject he picks for his shows.
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I'm a big Maron fan and WTF is pretty great. One of the episodes, I forget which one, had a really great story about his experiences with Sam Kinison that's worth checking out.
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I wish Todd would start his own podcast. He was great on CAEE, aside from the tangents off of anecdotes off of tangents off of qualifying statements. I rmiss how he'd goof around with the radio show format - Tom Jones traffic reports and whatnot.
The Lavender Hour is a new-ish podcast with some of those elements ... check it out if you have room for yet another podcast.
Speaking of Carolla, he's funny with Bill Simmons. I think they've each done 2 guest spots on the others' podcast.
For whatever reason, old Loveline mp3s are generally better than the Carolla podcast.
His TLC home renovation show is decent though ... it's on youtube (http://tinyurl.com/45p8xm).
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Listened to the PFT episode of Superego yesterday and almost wrecked my car because I was laughing so hard.
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All this Mark Maron talk got me listening to WTF for the first time. Despite the ridiculously cheesy intro I loved what I heard. The one with Zach Galifianakis on the set of a movie with Robert Downey Jr. was amazing. I guess I don't have much to add, I just want to thank this thread for finally getting me to listen.
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All this Mark Maron talk got me listening to WTF for the first time. Despite the ridiculously cheesy intro I loved what I heard. The one with Zach Galifianakis on the set of a movie with Robert Downey Jr. was amazing. I guess I don't have much to add, I just want to thank this thread for finally getting me to listen.
That original opening is really terrible. Sounds like a Morning Zoo Crew opening. Yeesh. It's gotten better.
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All this Mark Maron talk got me listening to WTF for the first time. Despite the ridiculously cheesy intro I loved what I heard. The one with Zach Galifianakis on the set of a movie with Robert Downey Jr. was amazing. I guess I don't have much to add, I just want to thank this thread for finally getting me to listen.
I started listening recently as well. I love the in-depth conversations with comedians. I can't stand his self-loathing. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to continue... maybe if I skip ahead right to the guests to get past his kvetching and whining.
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I started listening recently as well. I love the in-depth conversations with comedians. I can't stand his self-loathing. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to continue... maybe if I skip ahead right to the guests to get past his kvetching and whining.
Same here. I was inspired to check it out based on the talk around here. But I've found I have to fast forward past the intro music, all the "welcome what-the-fuckers" stuff, and his monologue.
But the interviews are good. Interesting stuff. He knows what he's talking about, and he asks tough questions without being so confrontational that the interviewee gets defensive. He actually gets answers!
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Same here. I was inspired to check it out based on the talk around here. But I've found I have to fast forward past the intro music, all the "welcome what-the-fuckers" stuff, and his monologue.
But the interviews are good. Interesting stuff. He knows what he's talking about, and he asks tough questions without being so confrontational that the interviewee gets defensive. He actually gets answers!
Agreed on both paragraphs, but especially the first one. Holy moly is he hard to listen to when he's not talking to some comedian in the midst of some kind of breakdown.