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Dan in Chicago

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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2010, 02:29:08 AM »
I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.

I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2010, 02:55:05 PM »
forgive the naivity, but what's appeal with Adam Carolla?  

I've probably missed his renaissance period because I only remember him being the side personality to Dr. Drew on KROQ in the 90s, and then hosting some stuff on TV that was alright, then demanding some friends of mine vacate their prime spot at a place in a restaurant because he was Adam Carolla.

again, i'm probably missing something, honestly.


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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2010, 04:36:16 PM »
While he is kind of an asshole and I don't really agree with him often when he gets to politics, Adam Carolla's radio show and podcast were really great for their interviews and guests. He just knows how to lean back and let people say what they are trying to say instead of crowding the guest to try to get them to say what he wants. Other than Tom, he is one of the only radio hosts who has consistently enjoyable and insightful interviews.
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2010, 05:01:41 PM »
Dan, that's interesting, because my (admittedly brief) experiences of him have been just the opposite.  He tries to drive the conversation and wants to force his guests into shtick. 
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2010, 05:38:44 PM »
I can understand that for some guests, but when he really has high quality guests on he does pretty good at shutting his yap. The episodes with Francis Ford Coppola was particularly interesting, and he never seems to rush the comedians he has on, which best show friend Patton Oswalt has complimented him on. As with most shows I can hardly say that it is 100% and there are definitely episodes where you are completely right, Pastor Josh, but when he does it well I think he is one of the best. Just my opinion though.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2010, 06:32:16 PM »
I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.

Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)



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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2010, 06:42:28 PM »
I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.

Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)



It depends what you are looking for. Some of my favorites over the past few years have been Jordan Jesse Go, which I know Tom isn't a fan of but still have to say it, You Look Nice Today, which features John Hodgman, I Love Movies with Doug Benson, who's guests overlap quite a bit with the Best Show's, and Comedy Death Ray Radio, which has all of your favorite LA comedians.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2010, 07:05:48 PM »
I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.

Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)



I can't get enough of Marc Maron's WTF podcast (even if the most recent episode was a dud).

Pastor Josh, I think you're characterization of Jimmy Dore as a regurgitating, uninformed pothead is unfair.  The most recent podcast has some really good commentary comparing and contrasting Obama and FDR. Like anyone, he's not always on the mark, but he's anything but lazy (which you kind of infer) or misinformed. And the Patton Oswalt episode from last year is absolutely inspiring. (And just to do the thing that I feel like people hate: I know Jimmy. He's a good dude).

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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2010, 07:52:12 PM »
Hugman, I don't mean to say he's not a great or funny guy.  However, I've listened to a good dozen episodes of the show, and each and every time he talked politics he came across as poorly informed and not that sharp of a thinker.  Maybe it was just a bad dozen or so episodes, but I think I gave him enough of a chance.  When he isn't talking politics, he's funny, but there just wasn't enough of that to make the show worthwhile for me. 
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2010, 10:01:57 PM »
I'm happy to hear this, actually. And I feel a little sorry I didn't give Carolla a chance thereafter.

Are there any podcasts that are best to start with? (besides the FFC one)


Dan In Chicago - I think he means good Carolla podcasts specifically but I love all the shows you suggested. My favorite guests are Dave Dameshek, Harlin Williams, or Dana Gould... Those 3 have been on a few times each and I just think that they bounce off of Adam really well.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2010, 10:16:31 PM »
I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.

I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
I definitely didn't think I was going to be laughing the entire time (and I was right) and I agree with you the show isn't really going for that. I also agree with you that with a good guest it's not bad, but as far as on par with TSOYA... Jimmy Dore is not even close to Jesse Thorn. Jesse prepares for interviews, where as at times it seems Jimmy isn't even paying attention. He's just looking through his mac for a song to play out of the garage band library. I don't hate Jimmy Dore, in fact, I stuck with the show for a long time and still occasionally listen , I just find that if I have my ipod loaded up with 20 different shows CAEE is almost always the last one I listen to.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2010, 11:08:46 PM »
I love Adam Carolla (in general) but I think an hour long daily podcast is a bad idea even for him. Especially with no real format. As for Comedy and Everything Else... I guess the nicest way I can put this is to say that I don't think that the shows title is an accurate representation of the shows content. Politics and Nothing Else (especially nothing funny) would be a better title, but I doubt they'll take my advice.

I think that is a little unfair. It just really depends on the guests. I never thought the purpose of the show was to be laugh out loud funny most of the time, it was just a forum for comedians to talk about the comedy business, or as the name suggests, anything else. Granted this didn't work all the time and there were plenty of dull episodes, but if they had a guest with something interesting to say, like the David Spade episode referenced earlier, it was up there with the Sound of Young America. It's going to come up short if you go into thinking you will be laughing the whole time.
I definitely didn't think I was going to be laughing the entire time (and I was right) and I agree with you the show isn't really going for that. I also agree with you that with a good guest it's not bad, but as far as on par with TSOYA... Jimmy Dore is not even close to Jesse Thorn. Jesse prepares for interviews, where as at times it seems Jimmy isn't even paying attention. He's just looking through his mac for a song to play out of the garage band library. I don't hate Jimmy Dore, in fact, I stuck with the show for a long time and still occasionally listen , I just find that if I have my ipod loaded up with 20 different shows CAEE is almost always the last one I listen to.

To be fair almost my experiences with the show were still with Todd Glass and when I think back on it I think that he is probably the one who brought that element to the table. Jimmy Dore is a funny and capable guy but he just isn't the orator Glass is.
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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2010, 07:49:29 PM »
I really like Todd Glass on almost everything I hear him on, but he's definitely hypersensitive to where it distracts me. The same goes for Marc Maron, whose self-deprication goes on to the point where I feel uncomfortable for the host/other guests.

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Re: why is podcasting so hard on relationships?
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2010, 10:23:38 PM »
You know, I usually find that annoying, but I find it endearing when Marc Maron does it.  I do not find WTF to be really funny, but I can't get enough of it.  It is a really great show.
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« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2010, 12:43:15 AM »
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The same goes for Marc Maron, whose self-deprication goes on to the point where I feel uncomfortable got the host/other guests.

For what this is worth (nothing), I agree with all sides of the Marc Maron issue.He's simultaneously pathetic and nobly honest about it, acknowledging the way we all are in some way pathetic. He's super paranoid yet he gives a pretty good interview, once he's determined the interviewee is his friend and not One of Them. But I still keep listening.