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Title: nfl
Post by: ben on January 18, 2011, 02:29:17 AM
I want the Green Bay Packers to win the Super Bowl.  And so should you.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Chris L on January 18, 2011, 06:10:38 AM
Seconded.  No more rings for Rapelsburger, please (Steelers always seem to slip in when NE or Indy blow it), and the Jets are stomach-churning.

There appears to be a lot of mancrushing on Aaron Rodgers these days, not the least of which coming from tv analysts.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: CSW on January 18, 2011, 06:56:01 AM
Of those 4 I'm behind the Bears. Ordinarily, I'm a Chargers fan.

NFL is getting bigger over here in the UK (and Europe) all the time. the Wembley game really helped with that. A lockout would be disastrous for the  NFL's global expansion (not that anyone in the US probably cares about that!!) Europeans are not familiar with athletes/sports teams either going on strike or being locked out. It just doesn't happen here. I hope it can be avoided.

Whilst it's easy to see Rex Ryan as repulsive, he's smart - his loud-mouthing and bragging takes a lot of the focus away from his players, allowing them to focus on the job at hand. (Well not all of them, clearly as, plenty of them talk trash too) This is also a proven management technique in soccer (Again, I expect no one cares about that.)

Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Greggulator on January 18, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
The best part about the NFL is the part in Peter King's MMQB where he talks about his "coffeenerdness." I loved the one a few weeks back where all it read was. "Starbucks' Pumpkin Spice Latte. So misunderstood. So good."
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: jbissell on January 18, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
I want the Green Bay Packers to win the Super Bowl.  And so should you.

No, I shouldn't. I'm glad they're finally meeting in a game that actually means something for both teams.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: gravy boat on January 18, 2011, 03:37:38 PM
The best part about the NFL is the part in Peter King's MMQB where he talks about his "coffeenerdness." I loved the one a few weeks back where all it read was. "Starbucks' Pumpkin Spice Latte. So misunderstood. So good."

I miss Dr. Z's writing.  He too would go off on weird tangents -- wine stuff for him.

I hate to admit it but I am satisfied now that Belichick is out.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on January 18, 2011, 05:23:28 PM
I miss Dr. Z's writing.  He too would go off on weird tangents -- wine stuff for him.

I hate to admit it but I am satisfied now that Belichick is out.


Both seconded.  Dr. Z thought he was smarter than everybody else, and perhaps he was.  Terrible prognosticator, but I think that was down to him wanting so badly for the right things to matter in who won and who lost.

I used to root for Boston area sports teams - then they started to have success and became more insufferable than Yankee fans.  Feh.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Rasmussen on January 18, 2011, 08:59:26 PM
I'm a Steelers fan first, but I'm also a Wisconsin native who hates Roethlisberger and Harrison, so I'm cheering for the Packers to win it this year.  Can't say I'd complain about the Jets winning it, though, since they're the ones who eliminated the Patriots.

No matter who wins it this year, the Patriots are out, and that's good enough for me.  I can't thank the Jets enough for giving me another year without hearing Boston/New England media bragging about the Patriots.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: ben on January 19, 2011, 04:45:12 AM

No matter who wins it this year, the Patriots are out, and that's good enough for me.  I can't thank the Jets enough for giving me another year without hearing Boston/New England media bragging about the Patriots.

Totally!  I hate the Patriots more than any team this side of the Vikings. 
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: CSW on January 24, 2011, 05:06:31 AM
Of those 4 I'm behind the Bears. Ordinarily, I'm a Chargers fan.

okay, now you have me fully behind the Packers. no love for Pittsburgh or Rapelisburger here. And also, on our UK coverage, the co-host is the most un-biased, partisan Steelers fan you can imagine so it makes any coverage of the Steelers tough to watch.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: nec13 on February 05, 2011, 11:14:18 PM
As much as I dislike some of their fans, I have to root for the Steelers. I am from Western PA, after all. To do otherwise would be heresy.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: ben on February 06, 2011, 07:19:25 AM
I haven't been able to sleep or eat or think or anything for a couple days.  I just want the game to be over with.  Pretty sure I'm going to have a breakdown watching it, and wanting the Packers to win for my dad more than anything.

38-24 Pack? 

Lets do it.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: daveB from Oakland on February 06, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
Kudos to Mummenschanz for their halftime show.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Stupornaut on February 06, 2011, 10:41:32 PM
Kudos to Mummenschanz for their halftime show.

Good to see they're doing a synergistic reboot of the whole mythos behind The Apple.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Pidgeon on February 06, 2011, 10:43:08 PM
MST3k says: Packers win the Super Bowl! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqLhdInGrk#)
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: ben on February 06, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
MST3k says: Packers win the Super Bowl! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqLhdInGrk#)

I've always loved that clip!  And Cinematic Titanic is coming to Milwaukee in two weeks!  And the Packers won the Super Bowl! 
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: dave from knoxville on February 07, 2011, 11:24:36 AM
As much as I dislike some of their fans, I have to root for the Steelers. I am from Western PA, after all. To do otherwise would be heresy.

He may be a rapist but he's our rapist?
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Alex_from_the_woods on February 07, 2011, 03:22:43 PM
Too bad dem Eagles didn't make it to the Superbowl. With it being Ben R (rapist) vs Michael Vick (sadistic- unapologetic dog torturer and killer), it would be interesting to see if my head would explode from trying to root against both teams.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Gilly on February 07, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
Vick might be sadistic but I think he's been anything but unapologetic. I guess it's up to each individual if they feel he deserves to be forgiven and if his apologies are sincere. I understand that it's hard to let a guy off the hook who is all of the sudden right back into hero mode. Honestly, I have a bigger problem with Roethlisberger who used his money to escape his "sticky situation". At least Vick had to suffer the consequences like a normal person.

I'm a casual football fan who only really watches the Vikings but if it were a baseball or basketball player that I really enjoyed watching I'd separate the person from the achievements. Just like I can separate my thoughts on musicians, producers and other entertainment industry people from the work they've produced. I suppose it's a little different because you're not going to a concert and cheering on Phil Spector as he creates his wall of sound, but we do give Roman Polanski our money to keep making movies despite the person. If Spector was able to create a brilliant album while in prison I bet critics would rave about it.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on November 27, 2011, 06:30:07 PM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Greggulator on November 28, 2011, 07:58:47 AM
I haven't cared about the NFL in years but I have to admit Tim Tebow fascinates me. I think he's a tool yet also think he's an earnest good person. I also love that he completely sucks a's a traditional QB so the Broncos now fly in the face of conventional wisdom and are reinventing the NFL playbook. I never understood the logic behind "that won't work in the NFL" for things like a spread option.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on November 28, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
I haven't cared about the NFL in years but I have to admit Tim Tebow fascinates me. I think he's a tool yet also think he's an earnest good person. I also love that he completely sucks a's a traditional QB so the Broncos now fly in the face of conventional wisdom and are reinventing the NFL playbook. I never understood the logic behind "that won't work in the NFL" for things like a spread option.


I want Tebow to fail because I don't like the people who like him.  I also hate Florida and Urban Meyer.  There was talk of Urban Meyer potentially coaching my alma mater, and I couldn't decide whether I wanted UNC to have an elite football program at the price of having to pull for such a sanctimonious prig.  Thankfully (?), it didn't happen, and Nick Saban is otherwise occupied.

The Urban Meyer thing was sort of like whether I wanted the US Olympic Team to win when they were coached by Mike Kryzyzewski.  I think I decided that I would pull for a K-coached US Team against a reconstituted-Nazi-Germany team, but not against even declared enemies of the United States such as Iran.  I slept just fine with that.


Back to Tebow.  I can't understand the calculations involved in the Broncos winning because Tebow is a man of such obvious (and hammered into the camera) faith.  Does that mean that God thinks the Chargers, who hail from one of the most conservative cities in the US, do not have as much faith?  Does He determine the winner based on average faith of all the players, or on the team with the most faithful skill position player?  Or are the players assigned a value based on the product of their star power and their faith?  Does he reduce their score for having people of the wrong religions?  These questions are important.*

It's the same thing with Haiti being hit by an earthquake because of a pact with the devil 200 years ago.  Does that mean that Joplin, Missouri had some sort of unpublicized pact with the devil?  Does North Dakota sign a pact with the devil every few flood seasons?  I'm not following the logic.**


* Not really.

** I suppose that should be "logic."
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Greggulator on November 29, 2011, 01:22:22 PM
My friend Joe from college lived with this kid Chris his freshman year. Joe was an excessive partier and widely considered as perhaps the most accomplished womanizer during my tenure at college. Chris was this chubby kid whose music collection unironically consisted of Bette Middler, Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond. Joe used to stumble back to the room at like 8:15 AM after a night of horrible behavior and would see this kid vacuuming the rugs while singing along to "The Rose." And Chris was also considering the priesthood and would also lead a hallway prayer session with another kid thinking of taking vows.*

This guy was a really nice person. I knew him fairly well throughout college and never, once, heard him say a mean word about anyone else.  And he was always doing (and leading) charity events and was our class president. But everyone just wanted to punch him in his face!

Tim Tebow's that guy.

* Mind you, I try and go to Mass every weekend. I was an altar boy (at a parish without a molestation scandal, to boot). I'm religious and I still wanted to slap this kid silly.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: JamesfromSouthEastPa on November 29, 2011, 08:00:17 PM
Dear Greggulator,

   Well Said.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: gravy boat on November 30, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
I'm Team Tebow. He fascinates me too. I hope he makes it to the Super Bowl this year so NFL fans can go completely nuts.

I do not watch much NFL and I am not religious but I saw the last 2 Broncos game. Against the Jets, I had picked the Jets in a "survivor" pool because I figured, that even on a short week, the Jets and Rex Ryan could stop Tebow's high school radio show offense during that Thursday night game. Tebow owned the end of the game. On the final drive--when you can tell his coaches just let Tebow do what he wanted--he went 90+ yards. Amazing.

I am a Chargers fan so I watched that game and it was like the Jets game. The Broncos D kept them close and then Tebow owned the end of the game. Sure he's got that goofy smile and seems like he is high as a kite, but he is a pure end-of-the-game killer and clutch.  As a sports fan, I appreciate that. Also, he does not make many mental mistakes.  He may have the accuracy of a Gene Wilder throwing darts in Young Frankenstein but at least he doesn't throw it to the other team or force bad balls. (Of course it helps that no one has any double-coverage on any receivers--but that is a product of his running ability.)

 I don't care that he wears his religion on his sleeve. He's not a politician or in my kids' schools--more power to him.

 




I am praying for you Buffcoat to see the error of your ways.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on November 30, 2011, 02:09:53 PM
I am praying for you Buffcoat to see the error of your ways.

You're going to have to get in line for that one.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: roubaix on November 30, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
Tebow's winning prayers reminds me of this intriguing WSJ anecdote:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704858404576134601105583860.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704858404576134601105583860.html)
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Before they were famous, many of the biggest pop stars in the world believed that God wanted them to be famous, that this was his plan for them, just as it was his plan for the rest of us not to be famous. Conversely, many equally talented but slightly less famous musicians I've interviewed felt their success was accidental or undeserved—and soon after fell out of the limelight.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: JamesfromSouthEastPa on December 04, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
In my humble opinion, they would be the perfect couple: Tim Tebow + Taylor Swift   :-*
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Chris L on December 19, 2011, 10:00:35 PM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on December 19, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)

Shouldn't you be a Ravens fan?




NB I thought there were no actual Ravens fans, but then I wandered into the Parlor in WeHo one Sunday looking for the announced UNC watching party.  Exactly all of the 30 TVs tuned to the Ravens game.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on January 07, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
Congratulations, TJ Yates.  UNC quarterbacks are now 1-0 all time in NFL Playoff games, dating all the way back to 1920.  That's quite a streak!

Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Crusherkc on January 08, 2012, 09:57:09 AM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)

That's a sweet gif, Chris L.  Is there anything more exciting than the New England Patriots?
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Chris L on January 08, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)

That's a sweet gif, Chris L.  Is there anything more exciting than the New England Patriots?

Is there anything more divisive than the New England Patriots?
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Crusherkc on January 08, 2012, 09:13:20 PM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)

That's a sweet gif, Chris L.  Is there anything more exciting than the New England Patriots?

Is there anything more divisive than the New England Patriots?

The soul of a conference is on the line next Saturday night.  Nice win by the Broncos btw...a legit QBing effort by Tebow though the Steelers were a limping team.  Expect huge ratings for a playoff game.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Smelodies on January 08, 2012, 11:03:01 PM
Is there anything more boring than the New England Patriots?

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829155/bradyo.gif)

That's a sweet gif, Chris L.

Not sweeter than this one.

(http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-gifs-jerome-simpson-bengals-touchdown-endzone-flip.gif)
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Gilly on January 08, 2012, 11:32:49 PM


Not sweeter than this one.

(http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-gifs-jerome-simpson-bengals-touchdown-endzone-flip.gif)

When I saw that the first thing that popped into my head was his agent telling him never to do that again!
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: nec13 on January 15, 2012, 12:33:53 AM
The Tebow Train has officially come to a stop. He had a nice run though. Went a lot further than I or anyone could have expected.

The more pressing question now is: who's going to stop the New England Patriots? They're an absolute juggernaut right now.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: roubaix on January 15, 2012, 08:50:29 PM
They do look good, although none of their wins came against teams finishing above .500
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: buffcoat on January 15, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
I feel like any of the four remaining teams can win at this point.  The Pats are a mystery for the reason roubaix said - they've reached an extremely late point in the season without beating literally anybody good.  They *seem* to be a good team, and Tom Brady is a Hall of Fame quarterback with an unbelievable set of receivers, but they have one of the NFL's worst defenses.

Two other teams with stellar offenses and porous defenses went down to defeat this weekend.  New England had the fortune to play a team that really shouldn't have been there.

It's a four-team tournament with four good-but-flawed teams.  Should be pretty good.
Title: Re: nfl
Post by: Gilly on January 17, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
I don't if anybody can say the Giants are underrated anymore with their win against Green Bay but they are easily the most balanced team left and their regular season record is deceiving due to a lot of injuries. San Fran is pretty balanced as well though. I think whoever wins that game wins the Super Bowl.