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FOT Community => Links => Topic started by: Christina on September 27, 2011, 01:17:27 PM
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Don't think this got posted earlier somewhere else on the board - let me know if so.
American Juggalo
American Juggalo (http://vimeo.com/29589320)
Oh, so many things. I scribbled notes all over my appt book, but gonna stand back and let you have a crack at it virgin-like.
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I particularly like the guy in the clown makeup.
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I particularly like the guy in the clown makeup.
I particularly like the guy with the spiky braided hair.
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I particularly like the guy in the clown makeup.
I particularly like the guy with the spiky braided hair.
I particularly liked the one that was overly doughy from too much cheap alcohol and high-fructose corn-syrup laden regional soda.
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Oh, so many things. I scribbled notes all over my appt book, but gonna stand back and let you have a crack at it virgin-like.
Please Christina, do share some of those.
Also, thanks for posting. Got about 8-9 minutes in, then realised it was clearly NSFW, then thought, I wish she warned me, then I realised it's Juggalos and I shoulda known that already
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Please Christina, do share some of those.
Also, thanks for posting. Got about 8-9 minutes in, then realised it was clearly NSFW, then thought, I wish she warned me, then I realised it's Juggalos and I shoulda known that already
HA-that is totally what I thought the second after I hit POST: "Should I have said NSFW? No, they know, if only for the language."
Some of my choice fave lines were:
*The guy who went on and on about what a good cook he was & he listed the things he excels at - basically the contents of a 10 piece Chicken Dinner at KFC ... fried chicken, biscuits, etc etc. Somehow this came from "Family, woop woop". I'm not sure how. Of said family, he also had this to say: "That shit made me the motherfucker I am today."
*The guys spray-painting each other's faces WITH ACTUAL CANS OF ACTUAL SPRAY PAINT.
*One of the seven billion guys sitting around in those lawn chairs, can't remember which, who said "the whippets don't stop".
*Some guy on how overblown the Juggalos' reputation is: "We can party and still maintain ourselves appropriately". Standing next to him was a completely naked chick.
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Does anybody else think they would have gone to one of these things if they were born 20 years later?
No? Just me?
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I think ICP is hilarious but I'm starting to get uncomfortable with all the Juggalo bashing. I think if you look at the targets and the people making the jokes there is a definite class divide. Juggalos tend to be kids from very lower middle to lower class blue collar families. And the people poking fun at them tend to be middle to upper middle class privileged white people who went to college.
I'm not going to say that their stuff isn't ridiculous, because it obviously is. But there is a fine line between pointing out the inherent ridiculousness and just flat out trashing a subculture you don't understand or identify with because you come from a different circumstance.
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HA-that is totally what I thought the second after I hit POST: "Should I have said NSFW? No, they know, if only for the language."
The language was not the problem...
Standing next to him was a completely naked chick.
That was. Fortunately for me no-one was around in the office. Hence the watching it at work to begin with.....
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I think ICP is hilarious but I'm starting to get uncomfortable with all the Juggalo bashing. I think if you look at the targets and the people making the jokes there is a definite class divide. Juggalos tend to be kids from very lower middle to lower class blue collar families. And the people poking fun at them tend to be middle to upper middle class privileged white people who went to college.
I'm not going to say that their stuff isn't ridiculous, because it obviously is. But there is a fine line between pointing out the inherent ridiculousness and just flat out trashing a subculture you don't understand or identify with because you come from a different circumstance.
Can't you make the same basic argument about the Tea Party, W&I? Both groups are largely made up of people who feel rejected by their society who are being manipulated by people who make a lot of money off their rage at that rejection.
Probably we shouldn't make fun of anybody, and it's decent of you to feel compassion like that. We humans are a tribal lot, though. Just ask Rose from Poster Children.
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I think ICP is hilarious but I'm starting to get uncomfortable with all the Juggalo bashing. I think if you look at the targets and the people making the jokes there is a definite class divide. Juggalos tend to be kids from very lower middle to lower class blue collar families. And the people poking fun at them tend to be middle to upper middle class privileged white people who went to college.
I'm not going to say that their stuff isn't ridiculous, because it obviously is. But there is a fine line between pointing out the inherent ridiculousness and just flat out trashing a subculture you don't understand or identify with because you come from a different circumstance.
In my opinion this has nothing to do with upper or lower "class". This is about stupidity/ignorance and it's celebration in different forms. If you watch the footage you can see all these people have got a massive chip on their shoulder, because they are trying to defend their stupid behavior with claims to normalcy and achievement. I don't have anything against idiots doing what they like but I'm not going to respect them for it. It's also not that I don't understand them...
I understand people like to have a good time and I am certainly not the one forcing anyone into the opera or the theater, but everyone knows this ICP-stuff is garbage and not intelligent, yet certain people love following their urges and base it around some tribalistic Juggalo-family-BS. They are simply saying: We love to do stupid stuff and we founded a club to do it.
Fine, but I reserve the right laugh at the outgrowths of that idea.
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Call me when the Koch brothers co-opt the Juggalos.
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*The guy who went on and on about what a good cook he was & he listed the things he excels at - basically the contents of a 10 piece Chicken Dinner at KFC ... fried chicken, biscuits, etc etc. Somehow this came from "Family, woop woop". I'm not sure how. Of said family, he also had this to say: "That shit made me the motherfucker I am today."
We'll lose weight together and bond over that.
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Call me when the Koch brothers co-opt the Juggalos.
Call you what?
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Call me when the Koch brothers co-opt the Juggalos.
Call you what?
ANYTHING, but call me
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The Insane Clown Job Creators.
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So really, none of you could imagine yourselves at The Gathering? I went to some pretty embarrassing shit in the mid-90s. But it was fun.
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The Insane Clown Job Creators.
Win.
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So really, none of you could imagine yourselves at The Gathering? I went to some pretty embarrassing shit in the mid-90s. But it was fun.
I can imagine going as an anthropological expedition - to check out the crazy scene. But I was even more of a snob as a kid than I am now, so I probably would never have been a full-fledged juggalo.
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So really, none of you could imagine yourselves at The Gathering?
No way in hell. That music sucks, and I hate beat-downs, which I'm sure I would take when I said "that music sucks".
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Let me clarify: I would have not gone for ICP's music, nor that of any offshoot band. But they've actually had really good hip-hop acts there the past couple of years, and I could imagine my younger self going for the drinking and drugs and (halfheartedly trying and failing to have) sex. Plus I remember being roped into a lot of terrible, trashy 90s music/camping/partying events by friends and relatives and having a decent enough time. I can't imagine the crowd was all that different at a Dead show in Buffalo or the campground at the Philly Folk Fest, or any number of Lollapaloozas, except maybe a smaller relative proportion of lowlives and pro wrestlers.
But then again, I did adamantly refuse to go to Woodstock '94, so I guess I had some standards.
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I don't like live music.
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I think ICP is hilarious but I'm starting to get uncomfortable with all the Juggalo bashing. I think if you look at the targets and the people making the jokes there is a definite class divide. Juggalos tend to be kids from very lower middle to lower class blue collar families. And the people poking fun at them tend to be middle to upper middle class privileged white people who went to college.
I'm not going to say that their stuff isn't ridiculous, because it obviously is. But there is a fine line between pointing out the inherent ridiculousness and just flat out trashing a subculture you don't understand or identify with because you come from a different circumstance.
I'm a working class slob and I feel perfectly comfortable making fun of people who say things like "There's no bigatory in Juggaloism" and who paint their face with actual spray paint. Idiots are idiots regardless of their economic status. Dead Heads and Phish fans mainly come from a higher economic staus than Juggalos and I'll make fun of them as well. Hippies, Juggalos, they all suck.
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I liked the Uncle Fester-looking guy who said he liked to stab people but also would like to lose his virginity at the Gathering. Good luck?!
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The resounding theme in the interviews is family. Something tells me that many of the people who find themselves drawn to this may have not had the greatest relations with their actual families and are looking for something to fill the void.
Personally, I would be too frightened to go to one of those, as I've always been scared and intimidated by carnys, but I get where they're coming from.
I don't find them as much funny as just plain bizarre.
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My grandmother told me not to get involved with fair folk. Not meaning "the fair folk" but meaning carnies. I think she would extend this to Juggalos.
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What was the gentleman with the red balloon breathing in?
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What was the gentleman with the red balloon breathing in?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide)
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My grandmother told me not to get involved with fair folk. Not meaning "the fair folk" but meaning carnies. I think she would extend this to Juggalos.
As I was writing "carnys," I debated whether the plural of carny is carnies or carnys. I suppose carnies is the right one after all.
But how about Juggaloes?
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I wish it was just juggalo, like buffalo.