Author Topic: Los Angelenos: HALP!  (Read 6866 times)

Laurie

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Los Angelenos: HALP!
« on: November 05, 2007, 08:11:50 AM »
I really want one of those Louis Vuitton/Murakami Neverfull totes (in small/PM size) that are only available at MOCA. I also want the coin purse. I'm not a fan of eBay or paying a $500 mark-up via eBay. Pleeeeeeeeease PM me, and we'll figure out something via Paypal or Western Union or whatever you like.

I have the exact prices of both of the items -- I just have to figure out the CA sales tax and the price of admission to MOCA.

If you help me with this transaction, I will be the happiest girl ever.

Sarah

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 08:22:01 AM »
If I had $860 to spare, I would get an electric meat grinder to make preparing my beasts' food easier, a new kingsize cotton comforter cover to replace the one the boxer destroyed this summer, and some insurance on my house.  Any surplus could go toward my property taxes.

Laurie

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 08:34:02 AM »
Sarah, don't forget the tiny coin purse. That goes for $270.

Sarah

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 08:49:08 AM »
Woo hoo!  My Internet connection for three-quarters of a year!  Or maybe for only eight months plus some socks!

Laurie

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 10:36:21 AM »
Come on. I'll do a double mouse pledge again or maybe even a mouse of tomorrow pledge next year. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase. I need that purse.

Susannah

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 12:49:44 PM »
Laurie, I'd been planning to check out that exhibition--possibly this Saturday.  PM or email me and we can work it out.

:)

Laurie

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 01:09:27 PM »
Laurie, I'd been planning to check out that exhibition--possibly this Saturday.  PM or email me and we can work it out.

:)

Yay, I love you!! I'll PM you later tonight.

John Junk

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 01:23:19 PM »
I would offer to go get it for you, as I have a membership and could get in free, and I've seen the show and didn't hate it as much as I thought I would, but I never made it up to the store in there and that whole concept offends me on so many different levels that I'm basically ethically opposed to anyone owning any of those attrocious bags.

Susannah

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2007, 01:24:24 PM »
Uh oh.  Am I a bad person for offering to help?

Sarah

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 01:31:56 PM »
that whole concept offends me on so many different levels that I'm basically ethically opposed to anyone owning any of those atrocious bags.

Uh oh, I'm falling in love again.

John Junk

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 01:34:44 PM »
I'm just a crank.  But seriously, look at this thing.



...unless that's a fake.  In which case, feel free to buy it.

Laurie

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2007, 01:47:19 PM »
I think it's cute. Also, you're cranky.

buffcoat

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2007, 01:48:25 PM »
When you get tired of it, you can just toss it over the side of Faather's Yach-t.
I really don't appreciate your sarcastic, anti-comedy tone, Bro!

Laurie

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2007, 02:03:13 PM »
I'm assuming it's the commercialism that bothers you, John. I can definitely see how the idea of a pop-up store in the middle of a museum is offensive. I agree, it detracts from the art itself. It's not the same as your standard gift shop, is it? Still, I love the Murakami/Marc Jacob colloboration, and I fucking want that bag.

I've been collecting little Japanese toys for about a decade, and that's how I learned about Murakami in the first place. I'm a big fan of serial art in general. I like the idea that just about anyone can own a little piece or art (or several) for under $100 (in most cases, under $50 or under $10 if we're talking about miniatures). Granted, these colloborations between pop artists and fashion houses are much more luxe and considerably more expensive, but I think it's on the same level.

I've always viewed fashion as a form of art, so I find the LV collaboration more palatable than maybe an artist would. I mean, look at Alberta Ferretti's Spring 2008 collection for Philosophy. The prints were largely inspired by Louise Bourgeois, and the entire collection was beautiful. And then there's Richard Prince's collaboration with Marc Jacobs for Louis Vuitton. I can take or leave Richard Prince. Actually, no, I think I'd rather leave Richard Prince. But, hey, I'll admit that the clothes were beautiful. The bags, eh, I wasn't so hot on those, except for the little Spongebob Squarepants bag Marc Jacobs came out with at the end. Super-cute.

John, can I ask how do you feel about Kidrobot stuff? Do you think it's just as bad?

John Junk

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Re: Los Angelenos: HALP!
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 03:46:28 PM »
Okay, I'll try and suss this out.  I went to the Murakami opening (NOT the one with Kanye West, mind you) and was actually more interested in things than I thought I would be.  Six years ago I thought Murakami was the shit, but then a few years later I went to a show of his paintings and was a little distressed at the completely air-tight production methods used to create his paintings, which made his paintings seem like toys.  I understand that he has this "superflat" concept, but to me it just seems like he's trying to have it every which way possible.  There is no reason for a painting to exist if it looks like a gigantic seemless screenprint.  It's sort of an inversion of Andy Warhol.  He uses high tech methods to design these paintings, and an army of animation-cell-type-painters to execute them, and they are utterly flawless paintings except for the fact that (aside from some admittedly very savvy use of scale) there is no reason to actually see them in person.  I guess the aspect of this that seems slightly dubious in my opinion is that they are still hand-painted, and therefore demand immense sums of money. 

I'm not really a sculptor, so I don't appreciate sculptures to the same degree.  So, ironically, I tend to think his sculptures are more interesting because they look like gigantic toys; however I'm mainly interested in the work he's made with human figures (like the guy making a lasso out of sperm, or the woman with the huge tits playing jumprope with her breast milk --which are fascinating and dirty and ballsy).  I don't understand his whole personal mythology and i"m not about to invest in it because it just seems like blue-chip anime/manga stuff that I'm not that into.  Some of his new sculptures are very impressive and pretty awesome.  All of the non-LV work in the show would be great to go see on a date where one could drop references to anime, japanese screen painting, buddhism, walt disney, andy warhol, etc.  The one LV-specific painting I saw was terrible.

I may just have an irrational beef with L.V. because it seems to be everywhere.  Vanessa Beecroft is a particularly odious artist, in my opinion, and I recently came across a terrible book that she made in collaboration with Louis Vuitton.  The bags all look cheap and tacky to me, even though they are extremely expensive.  It seems like some kind of twisted joke, and on second thought, it probably is.  It's almost like he's deliberately designing the ugliest things imaginable to test how well his branding exercise is going.  It remains a mystery to me, Laurie, why you would so vehemently dislike Damian Hirst and say that he is full of shit, and yet celebrate this nonsense. 

As for Kidrobot, in general I'm not really a fan of any toy-as-sculpture stuff (and yet for some reason I enjoy giant-sculptures-that-look-like-toys I guess), but not philosophically, just aesthetically.  Having said that, some of that stuff is cool, and some of it not so much.  In general I'm more in favor of spending a couple hundred bucks on a non-established artists drawings/paintings/sculptures than on a luxury multiple handbag or vinyl figurine or whatnot.  I'm not against this stuff on principal, I just can never bring myself to think they're worth buying.  Like I always covet those Yoshimoto Nara dog-in-a-teacup things, and sometimes seriously consider getting one, but then it just seems so decadent, even if it is cheaper than any "real" Nara painting would ever be.  I actually think Murakami has designed a lot of cool merch and toys (all of which are on display at the show), but I actually think, just in terms of cartooning, composition, color, etc., he's a little too intellectual and cold.  His main genius is business.  If he was selling $50 backpacks at the gift shop I'd be all about it (incidentally, there is the regular MOCA gift shop open in addition to the LV store in this exhibit---thus making the LV merch "art".  This is another thing that irritates me, the insistence that all this is somehow a critique or an ingenious play on the relationship with art and commerce.  Or that creating and exploiting it to its fullest this relationship somehow makes Murakami more interesting and not just more rich).  I think I could keep going on, but that's enough for now.  Where's Richard from Chi????*


*changing diapers I guess.