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Emily

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2008, 12:01:19 PM »

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2008, 12:08:02 PM »
I'm on the fence about Oprah's endorsement.  She endorses a lot of stuff.  Then she un-endorses that stuff too (The SEcret, dodgy memoir guy...)

I know a woman or two that thinks SHE should run for president, then you'd get a twofer: woman AND black.  ...AND closeted lesbian.  Deal with that, American man!  The lesbian black woman (Ellen's vision of the God-Head) has returned your ex-wives' sense of self, and now it's payback time!

Shaggy 2 Grote

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2008, 01:39:34 PM »
I don't think America is ready for a president with four eyes and two mouths.

Honestly?  I think the really prevalent attitude is, "I'm not racist/sexist, but America is not ready for a (whatever) President."  Sure, there are racists here, but none of them are going to vote Democratic anyway.

The way racism and sexism actually play out in this country is extraordinarily complex.  I'd be willing to bet that there are plenty of well-educated, liberal Obama voters who would cross the street to avoid a black man in an urban setting, just as there are plenty of Clinton voters who, in practice, participate in old-boy networks.  Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised if there were good-ol'-boy Republicans who would be willing to pull over and help a black man with a flat tire.  Even my estranged friend the Ron Paul supporter is convinced that there is some sort of Jewish cabal, even after he bailed me out of a few scrapes that I could have avoided if (A) I had any of that Jewish banking money, or (B) I could have called upon the Elders of Zion.  So basically you never know.
Oh, good heavens. I didn’t realize. I send my condolences out to the rest of the O’Connor family.

John Junk

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2008, 01:48:29 PM »
Yeah, and I'm sure there are a ton of black voters who probably think Obama is not black enough or whatever, or just don't like his policy.

Also, white people who obviously recognize the guy is black, but don't reserve the sort of racial contempt for him that they do for an Al Shapton or Jesse Jackson.

Similarly, plenty of women with ideas about womanhood that Hillary doesn't live up to.  Blah Blah. 

Andy

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2008, 04:00:55 PM »
I have to say that this surprised me a little.  Not so much the Rudy, but the Hillary thing.

80% Hillary Clinton (D)
78% Rudy Giuliani (R)
77% Chris Dodd (D)
76% John Edwards (D)
75% Barack Obama (D)
71% Joe Biden (D)
68% John McCain (R)
68% Bill Richardson (D)
52% Mike Gravel (D)
50% Mike Huckabee (R)
50% Mitt Romney (R)
49% Dennis Kucinich (D)
44% Tom Tancredo (R)
37% Fred Thompson (R)
23% Ron Paul (R)

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Wheelies- I'm havin' a time
Headlocks- I'm havin' a time
Drunk Tank- not so much a time
George St.- I'm havin' a time
Brenda- I'm havin' a time
Bingo- I'm havin' a time
House Arrest- I'm still havin' a time

Beth

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2008, 04:25:33 PM »
Yeah, I took that, and Obama came out on top for me, which I also found a bit surprising. That's when I started researching the guy, and discovered that on most issues, we pretty much agree.

EDIT: I was mistaken and took another quiz, which I found to be much more helpful.

http://www.electoralcompass.com/language/en

Gilly

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2008, 04:33:14 PM »
68% Mike Gravel (D)
65% Barack Obama (D)
64% John Edwards (D)
63% Hillary Clinton (D)
62% Chris Dodd (D)
62% Joe Biden (D)
61% Dennis Kucinich (D)
60% Bill Richardson (D)
52% Ron Paul (R)
43% John McCain (R)
43% Mitt Romney (R)
40% Rudy Giuliani (R)
39% Tom Tancredo (R)
37% Fred Thompson (R)
35% Mike Huckabee (R)

I think that pretty much sums up my thoughts that there isn't a very good candidate for me. When I vote it's always a compromise.

Sarah

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2008, 04:49:57 PM »
If Fred Thompson appears at the top of anyone's list, I'm going to cry.

Beth

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2008, 04:51:46 PM »

Jason

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2008, 06:08:07 PM »
Who da hell is Mike Gravel?

96% Mike Gravel (D)
90% Dennis Kucinich (D)
78% John Edwards (D)
73% Chris Dodd (D)
73% Barack Obama (D)
73% Bill Richardson (D)
71% Joe Biden (D)
68% Hillary Clinton (D)
33% Ron Paul (R)
29% Rudy Giuliani (R)
25% John McCain (R)
22% Mike Huckabee (R)
21% Tom Tancredo (R)
18% Mitt Romney (R)
13% Fred Thompson (R)

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Gilly

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2008, 06:16:11 PM »
Mike Gravel

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dave from knoxville

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2008, 06:36:32 PM »
83%
Obama Barack Obama
81%
Clinton Hillary Clinton
80%
Edwards John Edwards
80%
Dodd Chris Dodd
76%
Biden Joe Biden
70%
Gravel Mike Gravel
68%
Richardson Bill Richardson
67%
Kucinich Dennis Kucinich
56%
Giuliani Rudy Giuliani
42%
McCain John McCain
40%
Tancredo Tom Tancredo
37%
Romney Mitt Romney
32%
Huckabee Mike Huckabee
28%
Paul Ron Paul
24%
Thompson Fred Thompson

Hell, I'm not even smart enough to figure out how to cut and paste my results. I shouldn't even get a vote.

TL

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2008, 07:06:29 PM »
JP sent me this:  http://www.politicalcompass.org/index
It doesn't recommend candidates, but places you in a 4 sector, x/y graph, political spectrum - the "x" line being economic (running between Left/Communism and Right/Neo-Liberalism) and the "y" being "social" (running between Authoritarian/Fascism and Libertarian/Anarchism).  It's pretty interesting.
I feel pretty good about the fact that I fell almost exactly where I'd thought/hoped I would - a little left and south of the center of the bottom left quadrant.  So not as completely "Libertarian Socialist" as I'd wondered, earlier in this thread, if I might be, but appreciative of the examples of the Spanish Civil War, none-the-less...

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Jason

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2008, 07:15:05 PM »
The Spanish Civil War gave us M and Ms and Smarties.

TL

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Re: Really Iowa?
« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2008, 07:25:07 PM »
The Spanish Civil War gave us M and Ms and Smarties.

That's "M y Ms" and "Listos" to you, hermano!

Now write me a receipt so I can tip on outta here...